| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 01:18 - Sep 29 with 204513 views | Dr_Parnassus |
Who will be watching? First one kicks off in 24 hours time.
The Democrats have pulled Joe back from his campaign trail recently to get him prepared, so hopefully it will be a decent exchange.
Unfortunately they don’t seem to have great confidence as they have spent the last month looking for any dirt they can dig up so Joe can use if he gets stuck.
It’s no coincidence that this vote influencing Facebook algorithm story is being shamelessly and inaccurately made into a race issue on the eve of the debates. So transparent and disingenuous, it’s a shame politics has come to this on this level where black people are being used in this way to score political points. I would be furious if I was them, but it does seem a lot of people are not falling for this one and calling it out for what it is.
People finally seem to be getting wise to this political race baiting which is refreshing to see.
It’s also telling that in the week of the debate they try and paint Trump as a tax evasion offender. I think that’s what they wanted the tax returns to show, they seem to have got annoyed when it turns out his tax returns were fine in accordance to what his companies profits were - but decided to run with it anyway. Any news is good news in their mind as it’s another thing Joe can use when in a tricky spot.
But I hope the discussions remain political and doesn’t turn into some form of gossip peddling reality TV episode.
Although I think there should be some kind of drinking game involved if it does turn that way, how many times Biden completely loses his thread of thought and blurts out “I mean, think about it...” you have to take a shot. 
I will be watching with great interest anyway.
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| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 16:18 - Dec 12 with 1419 views | A_Fans_Dad |
| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 16:13 - Dec 12 by Joe_bradshaw |
You posted one from the “voter integrity project”. Well known nonsense,
You have twice in this thread claimed more votes cast than registered voters in specific locations. Both were lies trumped up which didn’t need thinking about to realise what they were. The fact that you were prepared to evidence them on here tells us that you post anything that suits your agenda without actually thinking about it. Turnout in those places was, in fact, under 66%.
Give it a rest, it’s clearly eating you up. |
In other words you have absolutely no proof whatsoever.
Because if you did you would have trotted it out.
So come on show us all these edited videos that prove the evidence is not true. |  | | |
| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 16:21 - Dec 12 with 1418 views | A_Fans_Dad |
| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 16:02 - Dec 12 by AndyCole |
Looking forward to hearing what you and your gang are expecting from Biden and Harris.
What specific improvements are you looking for ? Your top 3 will do for now.
The markets are poised and have been pricing in this debacle. |
They have no idea.
Everything that Biden & Harris put forward during the election run up will bankrupt America and complete the transference of power to China that has been going on for the last 12 years.
But maybe that is what those posters want, to see America on it's knees. [Post edited 12 Dec 2020 16:21]
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| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 17:14 - Dec 12 with 1396 views | majorraglan |
| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 16:14 - Dec 12 by A_Fans_Dad |
You have no idea what you are talking about, they have masses of evidence, but not one court is prepared to allow it in to the public domain.
But in the Texas case the evidence is already known by everybody.
The 4 states illegally changed the laws regarding a Presidential election, which is not a state election, it is a federal election, without authorisation which led to fraud.
It is literally that simple.
The evidence is manifold and comprehensive, but you won't accept it.
It is only on Youtube because the mass media is suppressing it, just like the Biden laptop, now why would they do that.
Did they suppress anything about Trump, his family, his friends and employees in the last 4 years?
Of course not. |
The US Constitution does set parameters for the election of federal officials, however State laws regulate most aspects of the election including eligibility. The running of the actual election sits with individual States.
The crux of the case in Pennsylvania was that Postal Voting was made easier late last year. There was a 6 month window during which the decision could be objected to. That window closed in April 2020 and guess what? The legislature including the Republican Governor didn’t object and the changes were implemented. Six months later, after the Democrats flip the State during the Presidential election the Republican Governor (who had failed to object to the changes during the 6 month window) litigates and seeks to have the changes overturned and the postal ballots from Philadelphia disqualified. His attempts are rebuffed by the PA Supreme Court (more often or not by Republican judges).
There are lots of comments and allegations of impropriety being bandied about, but when push comes to shove nothing is being produced in Court. I am pretty sure Trump would have got in to the Court room if it existed. I don’t consider the drivel being spouted on you tube as evidence.
If a lot of the guff being spouted in America took place in our country there’d be endless cases of libel and slander in the Courts. | | | |
| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 17:16 - Dec 12 with 1396 views | Joe_bradshaw |
| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 16:18 - Dec 12 by A_Fans_Dad |
In other words you have absolutely no proof whatsoever.
Because if you did you would have trotted it out.
So come on show us all these edited videos that prove the evidence is not true. |
Are you still sticking by the lies you have posted about turnout being higher than the number of registered voters in two districts?
Still?
Give it up before you spontaneously combust. |  |
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| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 17:59 - Dec 12 with 1378 views | DJack |
| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 10:04 - Dec 12 by Highjack |
Am I what? |
Melting. |  |
| It is far better to grasp the universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring. - Carl Sagan |
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| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 18:00 - Dec 12 with 1378 views | AndyCole |
| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 16:21 - Dec 12 by A_Fans_Dad |
They have no idea.
Everything that Biden & Harris put forward during the election run up will bankrupt America and complete the transference of power to China that has been going on for the last 12 years.
But maybe that is what those posters want, to see America on it's knees. [Post edited 12 Dec 2020 16:21]
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It's far far worse than that though isn't it.
All the shouty, irrational types that swoop in and attack/ bully you are the ones that have been "brainwashed". The irony is delicious. Feeble sheeple have absolutely no idea whatsoever what's just happening and what the Biden-Harris ticket means.
They will all skuttle and hide when the tables are turned. Thick doesn't come close. | |
| Pro free speech and alternative opinions -
Anti gang-bullying and poor modding thereof -
Will always make a stand against those who consistently choose to turn a blind eye |
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| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 18:28 - Dec 12 with 1361 views | A_Fans_Dad |
| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 17:14 - Dec 12 by majorraglan |
The US Constitution does set parameters for the election of federal officials, however State laws regulate most aspects of the election including eligibility. The running of the actual election sits with individual States.
The crux of the case in Pennsylvania was that Postal Voting was made easier late last year. There was a 6 month window during which the decision could be objected to. That window closed in April 2020 and guess what? The legislature including the Republican Governor didn’t object and the changes were implemented. Six months later, after the Democrats flip the State during the Presidential election the Republican Governor (who had failed to object to the changes during the 6 month window) litigates and seeks to have the changes overturned and the postal ballots from Philadelphia disqualified. His attempts are rebuffed by the PA Supreme Court (more often or not by Republican judges).
There are lots of comments and allegations of impropriety being bandied about, but when push comes to shove nothing is being produced in Court. I am pretty sure Trump would have got in to the Court room if it existed. I don’t consider the drivel being spouted on you tube as evidence.
If a lot of the guff being spouted in America took place in our country there’d be endless cases of libel and slander in the Courts. |
Of course the constitution doesn't set the laws, it is there to protect people when the laws are broken.
You are wrong about who sets federal election laws, it is not the states it is the senate and congress.
The states can request local changes to the laws, but they have to be authorised by the senate and or congress.
Which of course in their hurry to change the rules of the voting game they did not do.
It is amazing that you think that was the only change, it just goes to show how out of touch you are with what actually went on.
They changed the law that said Signatures must match, they changed the law that all Ballot material must be kept for 22 months after the election.
They would not allow proper monitoring of the process, especially the part about matching signatures and validity of the ballot paper.
They did not keep the Ballot paper together with the mail in envelopes where the signatures also have to match so that no one can check them.
They broke the rules by processing ballots without public and opposition oversight.
They refused to recount with Audit, which meant the recount was worthless.
They have refused to release independent forensic exemination reports on their machines, how I do not understand as they were independent, but they did.
Like I said you don't appear to know or believe half of what was going on.
Remember the Georgia video of the 5 people who stayed behind to work after the oversight left, did you see where they forced the Monitors and press to stand, about 30ft away from where the ballot processing was being carried out and not in direct line of sight. How were they supposed to audit the process from 30ft away?
So explain why you think that they did all those things if the election count was all legal and above board and there was nothing wrong with the ballot papers. | | | |
| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 18:31 - Dec 12 with 1356 views | A_Fans_Dad |
| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 17:16 - Dec 12 by Joe_bradshaw |
Are you still sticking by the lies you have posted about turnout being higher than the number of registered voters in two districts?
Still?
Give it up before you spontaneously combust. |
If the courts allowed the evidence to be presented so that the general public can see it you would know that it is true, because the media certainly won't show it.
Perhaps one of the courts will be brave enough to allow it, but I doubt it as it will show what a banana republic the US has become. | | | |
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| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 18:52 - Dec 12 with 1346 views | Humpty |
| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 18:00 - Dec 12 by AndyCole |
It's far far worse than that though isn't it.
All the shouty, irrational types that swoop in and attack/ bully you are the ones that have been "brainwashed". The irony is delicious. Feeble sheeple have absolutely no idea whatsoever what's just happening and what the Biden-Harris ticket means.
They will all skuttle and hide when the tables are turned. Thick doesn't come close. |
Who has been bullying Fan's Dad?
Are you confusing bullying and disagreeing with? |  | | |
| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 19:55 - Dec 12 with 1300 views | majorraglan |
| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 18:28 - Dec 12 by A_Fans_Dad |
Of course the constitution doesn't set the laws, it is there to protect people when the laws are broken.
You are wrong about who sets federal election laws, it is not the states it is the senate and congress.
The states can request local changes to the laws, but they have to be authorised by the senate and or congress.
Which of course in their hurry to change the rules of the voting game they did not do.
It is amazing that you think that was the only change, it just goes to show how out of touch you are with what actually went on.
They changed the law that said Signatures must match, they changed the law that all Ballot material must be kept for 22 months after the election.
They would not allow proper monitoring of the process, especially the part about matching signatures and validity of the ballot paper.
They did not keep the Ballot paper together with the mail in envelopes where the signatures also have to match so that no one can check them.
They broke the rules by processing ballots without public and opposition oversight.
They refused to recount with Audit, which meant the recount was worthless.
They have refused to release independent forensic exemination reports on their machines, how I do not understand as they were independent, but they did.
Like I said you don't appear to know or believe half of what was going on.
Remember the Georgia video of the 5 people who stayed behind to work after the oversight left, did you see where they forced the Monitors and press to stand, about 30ft away from where the ballot processing was being carried out and not in direct line of sight. How were they supposed to audit the process from 30ft away?
So explain why you think that they did all those things if the election count was all legal and above board and there was nothing wrong with the ballot papers. |
Check out paragraph 2 for Election info.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elections_in_the_United_States
The election was run properly because challenges to it have been thrown out.
The process varies from State to State, but signatures are generally checked before the envelopes containing the voters are opened. If the signature is approved, then the envelope is opened and separated from the ballot paper. If you keep the 2 items together the anonymity of the vote is compromised.
Numerous legislators, Government Departments even Departments run by Trump appointed loyalists have failed to find any significant levels of wrong doing that would lead to the election result being overturned and it looks like a Conservative majority Wisconsin Court has today thrown out the most recent attempt by DT to overturn the election result.
“Just goes to show how out of touch you are ...” um. | | | |
| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 21:52 - Dec 12 with 1268 views | Fireboy2 |
| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 16:02 - Dec 12 by AndyCole |
Looking forward to hearing what you and your gang are expecting from Biden and Harris.
What specific improvements are you looking for ? Your top 3 will do for now.
The markets are poised and have been pricing in this debacle. |
So the duo become a trio eh dad.
I'm looking forward to a president who doesnt spout bile and divide people enough that it brings violence.
Do you honestly believe that if biden had lost he would have kicked up the fuss that trump has? Honestly? |  | | |
| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 22:04 - Dec 12 with 1258 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 21:52 - Dec 12 by Fireboy2 |
So the duo become a trio eh dad.
I'm looking forward to a president who doesnt spout bile and divide people enough that it brings violence.
Do you honestly believe that if biden had lost he would have kicked up the fuss that trump has? Honestly? |
What bile are you referring to specifically? And what do you think he did to make people violent?
Specifics please. | |
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| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 22:46 - Dec 12 with 1240 views | A_Fans_Dad |
| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 21:52 - Dec 12 by Fireboy2 |
So the duo become a trio eh dad.
I'm looking forward to a president who doesnt spout bile and divide people enough that it brings violence.
Do you honestly believe that if biden had lost he would have kicked up the fuss that trump has? Honestly? |
The violence of the last 6 months HAS been Biden's team, surely you realise that.
You have obviously forgotten Nancy Pelosi's instructions to Biden, " under no circumstances do you concede, we will win when all the votes have been counted".
So yes of course Biden would if he was capable of stringing a couple of sentences together. [Post edited 14 Dec 2020 10:42]
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| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 09:51 - Dec 14 with 1103 views | Badgeman |
| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 22:04 - Dec 12 by Dr_Parnassus |
What bile are you referring to specifically? And what do you think he did to make people violent?
Specifics please. |
Funny how you never ask AfD for specifics on any of the mad stuff he spouts. |  |
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| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 11:13 - Dec 14 with 1073 views | Highjack |
| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 21:52 - Dec 12 by Fireboy2 |
So the duo become a trio eh dad.
I'm looking forward to a president who doesnt spout bile and divide people enough that it brings violence.
Do you honestly believe that if biden had lost he would have kicked up the fuss that trump has? Honestly? |
Do you think Biden will have long to be President? It’s interesting that all the stories about him colluding with his son in a cash for influence scandal that was being suppressed and dismissed as “Russian disinformation” before the election is now gaining traction again and actually being reported by main stream organisations. |  |
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| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 13:07 - Dec 14 with 1051 views | Badgeman |
| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 11:13 - Dec 14 by Highjack |
Do you think Biden will have long to be President? It’s interesting that all the stories about him colluding with his son in a cash for influence scandal that was being suppressed and dismissed as “Russian disinformation” before the election is now gaining traction again and actually being reported by main stream organisations. |
Another mainstream media cover up if you ask me. Pass us the tin foil. | |
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| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 13:39 - Dec 14 with 1032 views | A_Fans_Dad |
| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 11:13 - Dec 14 by Highjack |
Do you think Biden will have long to be President? It’s interesting that all the stories about him colluding with his son in a cash for influence scandal that was being suppressed and dismissed as “Russian disinformation” before the election is now gaining traction again and actually being reported by main stream organisations. |
Like I said they don't need liabilty Biden any more, under the bus for him and his family, they served their purpose. | | | |
| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 15:06 - Dec 14 with 1010 views | Highjack |
| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 13:07 - Dec 14 by Badgeman |
Another mainstream media cover up if you ask me. Pass us the tin foil. |
The suppression of this story was undeniable. It’s not tin foil, it was there in plain sight. | |
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| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 15:14 - Dec 14 with 1002 views | Badgeman |
| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 15:06 - Dec 14 by Highjack |
The suppression of this story was undeniable. It’s not tin foil, it was there in plain sight. |
After weeks of hyping up the claims, Fox, OANN and all the other pro trump networks just went to sleep on this enormous story right when it was pivotal for Trump. The fix was in. Maybe this conspiracy goes all the way to the supreme court just like the electoral fraud that was never demonstrated in court. Trumps been tucked up by that pesky deep state again. | |
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| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 15:48 - Dec 14 with 988 views | A_Fans_Dad |
| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 15:14 - Dec 14 by Badgeman |
After weeks of hyping up the claims, Fox, OANN and all the other pro trump networks just went to sleep on this enormous story right when it was pivotal for Trump. The fix was in. Maybe this conspiracy goes all the way to the supreme court just like the electoral fraud that was never demonstrated in court. Trumps been tucked up by that pesky deep state again. |
You think you are making a clever little joke, but you aren't because you have just written some of the truth.
You seem incapable of understanding that to demonstrate something in court you have to be able to "present the evidence" which they have been denied at every turn.
You believe what you want and I will believe what I want.
When it comes to expressing my opinion I do not need any links to present any kind of links, as it is just an opinion. | | | |
| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 16:30 - Dec 14 with 974 views | Badgeman |
| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 15:48 - Dec 14 by A_Fans_Dad |
You think you are making a clever little joke, but you aren't because you have just written some of the truth.
You seem incapable of understanding that to demonstrate something in court you have to be able to "present the evidence" which they have been denied at every turn.
You believe what you want and I will believe what I want.
When it comes to expressing my opinion I do not need any links to present any kind of links, as it is just an opinion. |
Fair enough pal, you believe in things that aren't substantiated by evidence and I'll do the opposite. Trump must be an enormous moron though to have appointed 3 supreme court justices who are part of the deep state conspiracy. What an idiot. If only he'd appointed justices who would've seen the evidence, then we could've all seen it. Now we will just have to settle for debunked youtube videos and years of twitter rants and crying like sore losers. | |
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| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 16:33 - Dec 14 with 972 views | Highjack |
| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 15:14 - Dec 14 by Badgeman |
After weeks of hyping up the claims, Fox, OANN and all the other pro trump networks just went to sleep on this enormous story right when it was pivotal for Trump. The fix was in. Maybe this conspiracy goes all the way to the supreme court just like the electoral fraud that was never demonstrated in court. Trumps been tucked up by that pesky deep state again. |
Twitter actively prevented the story from being spread. They suspended the official account of the New York post and labelled it “harmful”. Anybody who tried to share the link got warnings, some accounts were suspended. All the major networks dismissed the story as “without evidence” and “Russian disinformation”. Now the elections are over and Biden is in they are reporting on it. You’d have to be blind not to see what’s happened. It’s like when CNN reported that the BLM riots... sorry, protests were “fiery but mostly peaceful” despite the explosions and the roaring infernos and the terrorised screaming. You’d have to be seriously stupid to actually believe those riots...sorry, protests were peaceful. But that’s what they count on.
Journalism replaced by activism. | |
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| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 16:52 - Dec 14 with 963 views | A_Fans_Dad |
| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 16:30 - Dec 14 by Badgeman |
Fair enough pal, you believe in things that aren't substantiated by evidence and I'll do the opposite. Trump must be an enormous moron though to have appointed 3 supreme court justices who are part of the deep state conspiracy. What an idiot. If only he'd appointed justices who would've seen the evidence, then we could've all seen it. Now we will just have to settle for debunked youtube videos and years of twitter rants and crying like sore losers. |
I believe in things substantiated by evidence that you refuse to accept, that is a very big difference.
I also believe in the opinions of people in the USA who know what has been happening and have expressed their feelings about it.
Well now we will some evidence, because Judge Kevin A Elsenheimer has granted permission to Attorney Matthew Deperno to release the findings from their forensic examination of 16 Dominion Voting machines in Antrim County, MI.
The Attorney Matthew Deperno who authoried an independent Forensic Audit had been prevented from releasing the information by a local AG.
The report has been redacted for at least any machine source code, what other redactions we do not yet know.
However it means that Attorney Matthew Deperno can present the information to the public. | | | |
| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 17:05 - Dec 14 with 958 views | A_Fans_Dad |
| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 16:30 - Dec 14 by Badgeman |
Fair enough pal, you believe in things that aren't substantiated by evidence and I'll do the opposite. Trump must be an enormous moron though to have appointed 3 supreme court justices who are part of the deep state conspiracy. What an idiot. If only he'd appointed justices who would've seen the evidence, then we could've all seen it. Now we will just have to settle for debunked youtube videos and years of twitter rants and crying like sore losers. |
Now you have a big decision to make.
Are you going to believe the Independent Forensic Auditors, or the lying scheming Antrim County clerk & Secratary of State Jocelyn Benson, who had the Audit put under seal, that the Auditors have completely nailed?
If you will believe the auditors I will post the data that they found, if not I will know that you suffer with such TDS that you cannot accept the truth. [Post edited 14 Dec 2020 17:10]
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| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 17:06 - Dec 14 with 957 views | Kilkennyjack |
| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 16:52 - Dec 14 by A_Fans_Dad |
I believe in things substantiated by evidence that you refuse to accept, that is a very big difference.
I also believe in the opinions of people in the USA who know what has been happening and have expressed their feelings about it.
Well now we will some evidence, because Judge Kevin A Elsenheimer has granted permission to Attorney Matthew Deperno to release the findings from their forensic examination of 16 Dominion Voting machines in Antrim County, MI.
The Attorney Matthew Deperno who authoried an independent Forensic Audit had been prevented from releasing the information by a local AG.
The report has been redacted for at least any machine source code, what other redactions we do not yet know.
However it means that Attorney Matthew Deperno can present the information to the public. |
Trump lost. The end. |  |
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