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🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 01:18 - Sep 29 with 204514 viewsDr_Parnassus



Who will be watching? First one kicks off in 24 hours time.

The Democrats have pulled Joe back from his campaign trail recently to get him prepared, so hopefully it will be a decent exchange.

Unfortunately they don’t seem to have great confidence as they have spent the last month looking for any dirt they can dig up so Joe can use if he gets stuck.

It’s no coincidence that this vote influencing Facebook algorithm story is being shamelessly and inaccurately made into a race issue on the eve of the debates. So transparent and disingenuous, it’s a shame politics has come to this on this level where black people are being used in this way to score political points. I would be furious if I was them, but it does seem a lot of people are not falling for this one and calling it out for what it is.

People finally seem to be getting wise to this political race baiting which is refreshing to see.

It’s also telling that in the week of the debate they try and paint Trump as a tax evasion offender. I think that’s what they wanted the tax returns to show, they seem to have got annoyed when it turns out his tax returns were fine in accordance to what his companies profits were - but decided to run with it anyway. Any news is good news in their mind as it’s another thing Joe can use when in a tricky spot.

But I hope the discussions remain political and doesn’t turn into some form of gossip peddling reality TV episode.

Although I think there should be some kind of drinking game involved if it does turn that way, how many times Biden completely loses his thread of thought and blurts out “I mean, think about it...” you have to take a shot.

I will be watching with great interest anyway.

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🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 12:47 - Dec 10 with 1491 viewsA_Fans_Dad

🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 21:29 - Dec 9 by Badgeman

You'll finally accept Trump lost the election when the Supreme Court dismisses the next sham lawsuit? Are you sure?


I don't know why you think that they are shams, have you perused the evidence?
Because if you had, I don't why you would call them shams.
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🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 12:50 - Dec 10 with 1486 viewsA_Fans_Dad

🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 19:44 - Dec 9 by majorraglan

She’s made some decent points. Lots of States have done it, depending on where your beliefs fall you’ll consider it as prudent housekeeping or an exercise in mass disenfranchising. Adams has worked hard to register Afro Americans since her loss and that has swung the Georgia result the way of the Democrats.
The point she makes re Native Americans is very pertinent.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2019/12/17/georgia-purged-voters-its-rolls
[Post edited 9 Dec 2020 19:45]


So, you see no hypocracy that she will not accept the result of her election due to possible election concerns, but the President of the USA can't?
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🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 13:58 - Dec 10 with 1447 viewsBadgeman

🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 12:40 - Dec 10 by A_Fans_Dad

You are totally deluded if you think they haven't stepped up to provide their evidence, or that I do not have any.

I don't know you, you have recently joined this debate quite late.
I posted videos from Expert witnesses including a Cyber Security specialist and an MIT Professor of Statistics.
There is evidence from a Military Cybermetics expert and the man the NYT called the "smartest man in the room.
But you are not really interested in it are you.

Even you should realise that what Facebook is doing is preventing the spread of exactly that information to the general public.
Just as the vast majority of the mass media are doing.

Here is another little gem for you regarding biased suppression of information, take this headline in the Daily Mail.
"US President-elect Joe Biden says he is 'proud' of his son Hunter after federal prosecutors' tax probe is revealed into his troubled son's dodgy Chinese business deals - which was PAUSED in case it affected election "

Why would an official justice agency pause a very serious crime investigation "because it might affect the election".
Shouldn't it have done exactly the opposite and shown that the person the public are electing as President comes from a crime family, because they are also investigating Biden's brother as well.
Many Democrat supporters stated after the election that if they had known all the information on Hunter Biden's laptop they would not have voted for his father.
What do you think would have happened if it had been anyone in the Trump family, I will tell you what it would have been plastered over every mass media headline?


Your entire post is conjecture. How did those witnesses do in Court? Not great by the looks of things. Back to Hunter Biden's laptop now are we? Why not throw in Benghazi while we are at it.

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🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 13:59 - Dec 10 with 1446 viewsBadgeman

🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 12:47 - Dec 10 by A_Fans_Dad

I don't know why you think that they are shams, have you perused the evidence?
Because if you had, I don't why you would call them shams.


I'll call them no-hope loser lawsuits if that triggers you a bit less?

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🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 14:54 - Dec 10 with 1423 viewsA_Fans_Dad

🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 13:58 - Dec 10 by Badgeman

Your entire post is conjecture. How did those witnesses do in Court? Not great by the looks of things. Back to Hunter Biden's laptop now are we? Why not throw in Benghazi while we are at it.


The mere fact that you needed to ask how the witnesses did in court" means that you aare totally clueless about what has been going on.
None of the evidence has been looked at by any court, all the cases have been thrown out on procedural points.
If you had listened to the latest Sydney Powell case, where the Judge refused to look at the evidence, where she gave a verbal account of it which he also ignored you would have a greater understanding.
In his sum up he actually said "even if I believed your conspiracy theories I would still HAVE TO DISMISS".

Not interested in law breaking at all, even with 1000 affidavits, videos, photos etc, just his points of law to dismiss, where is the "justice" in that?
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🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 15:00 - Dec 10 with 1418 viewslondonlisa2001

🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 14:54 - Dec 10 by A_Fans_Dad

The mere fact that you needed to ask how the witnesses did in court" means that you aare totally clueless about what has been going on.
None of the evidence has been looked at by any court, all the cases have been thrown out on procedural points.
If you had listened to the latest Sydney Powell case, where the Judge refused to look at the evidence, where she gave a verbal account of it which he also ignored you would have a greater understanding.
In his sum up he actually said "even if I believed your conspiracy theories I would still HAVE TO DISMISS".

Not interested in law breaking at all, even with 1000 affidavits, videos, photos etc, just his points of law to dismiss, where is the "justice" in that?


The whole thing is a scam to raise money for Trump. So far he’s raised about $260m and spent about $20m on these spurious ‘cases’. It is a massive con.

What part of that do you not understand?
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🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 15:25 - Dec 10 with 1396 viewsmajorraglan

🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 12:45 - Dec 10 by A_Fans_Dad

I see that you snidley included Trump in your comments, as the illegal release of his Tax data showed he used the very system created by Obama & Biden to "legally avoid" paying taxes.
Which I am sure that you are aware is totally different to illegal Tax "evasion".
After all the Bidens could hardly declare all those illegal payments that he received from Ukraine, Russia and China.


For snide, see your original comments. Before passing judgement on DT, I’ll wait for him to officially release them as I don’t think it’s appropriate on a leak which be slanted or not portray the entire picture.
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🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 15:42 - Dec 10 with 1379 viewsmajorraglan

🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 12:50 - Dec 10 by A_Fans_Dad

So, you see no hypocracy that she will not accept the result of her election due to possible election concerns, but the President of the USA can't?


Missed the bit about her not accepting the result and the allegations of fraud. She ended her bid a week after the election, she’s not claimed any fraud etc, what she’s raised is a concern about voter disenfranchisement by her Republican revival who oversaw the removal of hundreds of thousands of voters. As I said in another post, what you believe will fall in accordance with your political beliefs, good housekeeping or disenfranchisement. A month before the election took place there were 53,000 pending voter registrations - mainly Afro Americans.

I suspect that there’s been no fraud, Trump has been beaten after Adams and people like her mobilised the Afro American community to register to vote.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/elections/democrat-stacey-abrams-ends-candidacy
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🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 15:52 - Dec 10 with 1367 viewsA_Fans_Dad

🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 15:00 - Dec 10 by londonlisa2001

The whole thing is a scam to raise money for Trump. So far he’s raised about $260m and spent about $20m on these spurious ‘cases’. It is a massive con.

What part of that do you not understand?


Easy for you to say, so let's see the actual evidence that it is true.
The fact that there is something in the small print of the website dosn't mean that is what is happening.
Evidnce and not from some bull sh!t newspaper like the Guardian, or some some anti Trump website.
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🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 15:54 - Dec 10 with 1366 viewsA_Fans_Dad

🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 15:42 - Dec 10 by majorraglan

Missed the bit about her not accepting the result and the allegations of fraud. She ended her bid a week after the election, she’s not claimed any fraud etc, what she’s raised is a concern about voter disenfranchisement by her Republican revival who oversaw the removal of hundreds of thousands of voters. As I said in another post, what you believe will fall in accordance with your political beliefs, good housekeeping or disenfranchisement. A month before the election took place there were 53,000 pending voter registrations - mainly Afro Americans.

I suspect that there’s been no fraud, Trump has been beaten after Adams and people like her mobilised the Afro American community to register to vote.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/elections/democrat-stacey-abrams-ends-candidacy


Yes of course she did.
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🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 15:56 - Dec 10 with 1365 viewsA_Fans_Dad

🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 15:25 - Dec 10 by majorraglan

For snide, see your original comments. Before passing judgement on DT, I’ll wait for him to officially release them as I don’t think it’s appropriate on a leak which be slanted or not portray the entire picture.


Why should he, the IRS are the arbiters of whether taxes paid are appropriate, not the public or the media?

So what do you think of the fact he gives his Presedential salary to chairty?
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🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 16:22 - Dec 10 with 1344 viewslondonlisa2001

🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 15:52 - Dec 10 by A_Fans_Dad

Easy for you to say, so let's see the actual evidence that it is true.
The fact that there is something in the small print of the website dosn't mean that is what is happening.
Evidnce and not from some bull sh!t newspaper like the Guardian, or some some anti Trump website.


https://www.donaldjtrump.com/media/trump-rnc-announce-massive-207.5-million-rais

lol.
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🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 16:38 - Dec 10 with 1328 viewsA_Fans_Dad

🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 16:22 - Dec 10 by londonlisa2001

https://www.donaldjtrump.com/media/trump-rnc-announce-massive-207.5-million-rais

lol.


A minor problem, that is the RNC, that is not Trump's money.
But a good try.
I know you suffer with severe TDS, but have you actually looked at any of the evidence of electoral fraud?
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🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 17:09 - Dec 10 with 1317 viewslondonlisa2001

🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 16:38 - Dec 10 by A_Fans_Dad

A minor problem, that is the RNC, that is not Trump's money.
But a good try.
I know you suffer with severe TDS, but have you actually looked at any of the evidence of electoral fraud?


Nope, it’s not.

Read the small print on where the money actually goes.

Yes. There is no ‘evidence’ of any sort of widespread or organised fraud.It’s all complete nonsense. There may well be the odd case, both ways, as is always the case in an election of this size, but even Trump’s lawyers (term used in the loosest possible sense) have, when actually in court and under oath, said they have absolutely no evidence of fraud nor are they asserting fraud has taken place.

The only ‘evidence’ comes from loonie tunes like that woman in Michigan, who has previously been convicted of lying in a legal case and has recently served a sentence for such. Most ‘evidence’ you’ve presented has been of perfectly ordinary cctv of the election process, usually accompanied by some made up bollox voice over from a nut job pointing out stuff which simply isn’t there.

The only one of us with Trump Derangement Syndrome is you.
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🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 18:10 - Dec 10 with 1272 viewsA_Fans_Dad

🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 17:09 - Dec 10 by londonlisa2001

Nope, it’s not.

Read the small print on where the money actually goes.

Yes. There is no ‘evidence’ of any sort of widespread or organised fraud.It’s all complete nonsense. There may well be the odd case, both ways, as is always the case in an election of this size, but even Trump’s lawyers (term used in the loosest possible sense) have, when actually in court and under oath, said they have absolutely no evidence of fraud nor are they asserting fraud has taken place.

The only ‘evidence’ comes from loonie tunes like that woman in Michigan, who has previously been convicted of lying in a legal case and has recently served a sentence for such. Most ‘evidence’ you’ve presented has been of perfectly ordinary cctv of the election process, usually accompanied by some made up bollox voice over from a nut job pointing out stuff which simply isn’t there.

The only one of us with Trump Derangement Syndrome is you.


Nut jobs?
You have lowered yourself to profs level now.
Slagging of professionals, I would expect nothing less.
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🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 18:15 - Dec 10 with 1268 viewslondonlisa2001

🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 18:10 - Dec 10 by A_Fans_Dad

Nut jobs?
You have lowered yourself to profs level now.
Slagging of professionals, I would expect nothing less.


‘Professionals’. Lol.
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🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 18:39 - Dec 10 with 1252 viewsA_Fans_Dad

🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 18:15 - Dec 10 by londonlisa2001

‘Professionals’. Lol.


One of the best US Cyber Security professionals, an MIT statistics professor, a military Cyber security specialist.
Obviously nut jobs.
OK.

Of course there are also thousands of citizens who have also been looking at the data as well, but they are also all nut jobs as well.
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🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 00:22 - Dec 11 with 1194 viewsDJack

🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 18:39 - Dec 10 by A_Fans_Dad

One of the best US Cyber Security professionals, an MIT statistics professor, a military Cyber security specialist.
Obviously nut jobs.
OK.

Of course there are also thousands of citizens who have also been looking at the data as well, but they are also all nut jobs as well.


Experts...


https://josephhall.org/papers/Experts-Statement-on-the-US-2020-General-Election-

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/11/17/trump-fires-dhs-cybersecurity-chief-who

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🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 15:00 - Dec 11 with 1108 viewsA_Fans_Dad

🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 00:22 - Dec 11 by DJack

Experts...


https://josephhall.org/papers/Experts-Statement-on-the-US-2020-General-Election-

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/11/17/trump-fires-dhs-cybersecurity-chief-who


Are you quoting the same "ex Spurts" that said there was no truth to the Hunter Biden laptop scandal, that it was a Russian conspiracy?

Jack Kass thought he was being clever on the Nov 3rd asking "Shouldn't Hunter Biden be in jail by now? Bidens campaign in smithereens? "

The answer is yes to both and now we know why it didn't happen, the information on the investigations was withheld until after the Election in case they affected the outcome. Aided by a US Media blackout on the subject.
Information that the Voters had a right to know before making the most important decision of their lives was withheld by the authorities.


I am sure that the Democrats could come up with a thousand ex spurts to say that there was no fraud if asked to.
But they have to be able to refute the Data that the other experts say they have that it did happen.
Good luck with that.
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🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 15:08 - Dec 11 with 1104 viewsA_Fans_Dad

🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 00:22 - Dec 11 by DJack

Experts...


https://josephhall.org/papers/Experts-Statement-on-the-US-2020-General-Election-

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/11/17/trump-fires-dhs-cybersecurity-chief-who


Djack, why would a Judge order the withholding of the Independent Forensic Audit Report of Dominion Election Machines?
Wouldn't it be best if the whole world new the result?
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🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 17:50 - Dec 11 with 1059 viewsA_Fans_Dad

Well where are all the naysayers about Biden's laptop apologising for getting it so wrong?

Nowhere to be seen, that's where.
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🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 19:07 - Dec 11 with 1029 viewsJack_Kass

🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 17:50 - Dec 11 by A_Fans_Dad

Well where are all the naysayers about Biden's laptop apologising for getting it so wrong?

Nowhere to be seen, that's where.


Do you really want to revisit such an embarrassing moment, again?

Since mid October, when you claimed that Hunter Biden was a peadophile, with the evidence on his laptop proving so being a 'FACT', you have been subsequently torn to pieces, and duly left alone, as it was cruel to keep the evident beating, ongoing.

If you have not noticed, you are now ploughing a lone furrow as your mukka Dr Parsnip has long since legged it from this discussion.

Just stop, you silly man.

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🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 19:53 - Dec 11 with 1016 viewsFireboy2

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🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 20:03 - Dec 11 with 1010 viewslondonlisa2001

🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 17:50 - Dec 11 by A_Fans_Dad

Well where are all the naysayers about Biden's laptop apologising for getting it so wrong?

Nowhere to be seen, that's where.


You claimed that the laptop showed evidence of Joe Biden’s corruption and Hunter Biden’s paedophilia.

He’s being investigated for his taxes.

Not really the same thing is it.

Wait til you hear what Ivanka and Jared are being investigated for. It’ll blow your mind.
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🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 20:17 - Dec 11 with 1001 viewsItchySphincter

🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 15:00 - Dec 10 by londonlisa2001

The whole thing is a scam to raise money for Trump. So far he’s raised about $260m and spent about $20m on these spurious ‘cases’. It is a massive con.

What part of that do you not understand?


You think that after 100-odd pages of this tripe he’s gonna turn around and say you might be right?! It’s futile.

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