| Russia demands to see daughter of spy on 21:34 - Mar 31 with 2675 views | Private_Partz |
| Russia demands to see daughter of spy on 20:06 - Mar 31 by trampie |
What irrefutable evidence ?
It does not prove anything if it was made in the old Soviet union [could they even prove where it was made ?], hence why the analogy with a gun made in one country and used by a national in another country to shoot someone in another country.
The place where it was said to be made was in Uzbekistan and they got independence in 1991 and apparently asked the Americans to make the facility where it was said to have been made to make the plant safe, could it be the Uzbecks ?, could it be Americans ?, Porton Down Britains top secret place involved in the same type of thing is just down the road, could it be the British ?
Where its from isn't the key question, it could be a key question but the main question imo is who done it and who ordered it/was behind it, if it was Russian mafia types and the Russian state had nothing to do with it, then our Government would be wrong to castigate and take the actions they have against the Russian state, if its Russian gangsters and the stuff had come from some security unit inside Russia then questions/sanctions should be taken against Russia but if its come from an independent country that was once part of the old Soviet Union and a third party had lost control of it, it would be a bit rich if not outright wrong to blame the Russian state. |
Well that was a long post in reply to mine and I entirely agree. You can even have an up arrow but I suspect it will be a long time before you get another. ;-) |  |
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| Russia demands to see daughter of spy on 21:37 - Mar 31 with 2658 views | PentyrchJack |
May and Johnson will never get the better of Putin and it was naive of them even trying.
Russia has threatened to stop and search every U.K. plane landing in Russia and I'm sure they will put the price of their gas up too.
We have had it. [Post edited 31 Mar 2018 21:40]
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| Russia demands to see daughter of spy on 01:31 - Apr 1 with 2575 views | Groo |
Even if making public revealed the source and risked the lives of others? |  |
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| Russia demands to see daughter of spy on 03:10 - Apr 1 with 2560 views | Highjack |
| Russia demands to see daughter of spy on 21:37 - Mar 31 by PentyrchJack |
May and Johnson will never get the better of Putin and it was naive of them even trying.
Russia has threatened to stop and search every U.K. plane landing in Russia and I'm sure they will put the price of their gas up too.
We have had it. [Post edited 31 Mar 2018 21:40]
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Haven’t heard from Moscow jack in a while. He’s probably got a rather large Russian hand right up his arse as we speak. |  |
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| Russia demands to see daughter of spy on 08:40 - Apr 1 with 2512 views | oh_tommy_tommy |
Perhaps this double agent was on another job and it went t!ts up . |  |
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| Russia demands to see daughter of spy on 08:46 - Apr 1 with 2507 views | Brynmill_Jack |
| Russia demands to see daughter of spy on 18:09 - Mar 31 by trampie |
You get things wrong all the time Partz and respond to people as if they have said things they haven't.
First and foremost they will want to provide consular services to their citizen that is hospitalised in a foreign country.
As regards the lady and her father been poisoned by a nerve agent that at this stage is not being disputed, but who did it is the key question, who made it is a lesser question as a gun could be made in one country and somebody from another country could use it, there are M16 and AK47's all over the World, get it Partz. |
Yes but if you look at the situation with an iota of sense the UK government is hardly going to let the *accused to go and counsel her now are they? Their excuses are already in place .
*even though I think it's false |  |
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| Russia demands to see daughter of spy on 08:57 - Apr 1 with 2502 views | Brynmill_Jack |
| Russia demands to see daughter of spy on 21:11 - Mar 31 by Kilkennyjack |
People are asking the obvious questions. |
I didn't even think about CCTV! it's a ridiculous accusation which if outed as a false flag will deprive the UK of any credibility internationally and seriously endanger our gas supplies. These people who govern us are morons, mouth auctioned before engaging brain. Unbelievable. | |
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| Russia demands to see daughter of spy on 10:26 - Apr 1 with 2467 views | Loyal |
| Russia demands to see daughter of spy on 15:10 - Mar 31 by Kilkennyjack |
Is timing important ?
Could this be linked to Cambridge Analytica ?
Remember Hillsborough, Iraq, Birmingham 6....?
And think on. |
Keep hammering away for years telling the same old stuff to anyone who will listen and everyone will be innocent, even the dead murderer Mcguinness. |  |
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| Russia demands to see daughter of spy on 10:30 - Apr 1 with 2456 views | trampie |
| Russia demands to see daughter of spy on 10:26 - Apr 1 by Loyal |
Keep hammering away for years telling the same old stuff to anyone who will listen and everyone will be innocent, even the dead murderer Mcguinness. |
McGuinness was a Brit just like Adams is. |  |
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| Russia demands to see daughter of spy on 10:31 - Apr 1 with 2453 views | trampie |
Speculation that the Brits might be making all sorts of offers to Yulia.........hmm | |
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| Russia demands to see daughter of spy on 14:10 - Apr 1 with 2387 views | Highjack |
| Russia demands to see daughter of spy on 08:40 - Apr 1 by oh_tommy_tommy |
Perhaps this double agent was on another job and it went t!ts up . |
Yeah I heard from people all over the net that he was asked to paint the house but got his tub of Dulux silk magnificent mango mixed up with his vat of nerve agent. | |
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| Russia demands to see daughter of spy on 14:30 - Apr 1 with 2382 views | theloneranger |
| Russia demands to see daughter of spy on 14:34 - Mar 31 by Brynmill_Jack |
Even miniscule exposure to a so called nerve agent (and one being over seven times more lethal than VX ) should kill within an hour .
You're talking like its norovirous or something.
As for her father let's wait and see. Perhaps he'll make a recovery too . |
Perhaps it's a counterfeit nerve agent, made in China 😂 |  |
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| Russia demands to see daughter of spy on 14:33 - Apr 1 with 2377 views | Highjack |
| Russia demands to see daughter of spy on 10:31 - Apr 1 by trampie |
Speculation that the Brits might be making all sorts of offers to Yulia.........hmm |
Well she is a rather attractive lady. | |
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| Russia demands to see daughter of spy on 15:55 - Apr 1 with 2327 views | DJack |
| Russia demands to see daughter of spy on 21:11 - Mar 31 by Kilkennyjack |
People are asking the obvious questions. |
...err no they are not! They are asking dull questions that are being fed out to the masses.
CCTV footage of the assailant is only ever found after they have been identified or if captured during the incident - And we don't have CCTV pointing at everyone's front door.
Suspects! This would not have been carried out by some dumb mwsh, it would have been executed by a professional who is trained to blend in and cover their tracks.
"Worlds deadliest" military grade nerve agent & 2 of the victims in recovery.
Only 3 victims in total. - how much (little) substance was used and in what form? My theory is that the father got the entire minuscule dose and the daughter and copper got the "off-gas"
"Why aren't mainstream journalists questioning further?" - Because they have got themselves informed with a bit of background info on how these things work and they are satisfied with how it looks, currently. Meanwhile, people with no knowledge are spouting shit. |  |
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| Russia demands to see daughter of spy on 17:00 - Apr 1 with 2287 views | Brynmill_Jack |
| Russia demands to see daughter of spy on 15:36 - Apr 1 by DJack |
That's right because no-one would think of decontaminating the scene would they 
There are some right ones on this thread. |
The photo is dated 7th March. They've only just reported finding the "largest concentration" in the last week. So they probably hadn't "decontaminated" the door when the photograph was taken | |
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| Russia demands to see daughter of spy on 17:16 - Apr 1 with 2269 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Russia demands to see daughter of spy on 15:55 - Apr 1 by DJack |
...err no they are not! They are asking dull questions that are being fed out to the masses.
CCTV footage of the assailant is only ever found after they have been identified or if captured during the incident - And we don't have CCTV pointing at everyone's front door.
Suspects! This would not have been carried out by some dumb mwsh, it would have been executed by a professional who is trained to blend in and cover their tracks.
"Worlds deadliest" military grade nerve agent & 2 of the victims in recovery.
Only 3 victims in total. - how much (little) substance was used and in what form? My theory is that the father got the entire minuscule dose and the daughter and copper got the "off-gas"
"Why aren't mainstream journalists questioning further?" - Because they have got themselves informed with a bit of background info on how these things work and they are satisfied with how it looks, currently. Meanwhile, people with no knowledge are spouting shit. |
Since you accept everything the UK government say without question, then you are part of the problem.
Think , say, weapons of mass destruction in Iraq and Hillsborough. The UK Govt has got ir badly wrong many times before.
If they have the evidence then get it verified.
Wtf. Russia should ‘go away and shut up’ ... 😂 |  |
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| Russia demands to see daughter of spy on 17:23 - Apr 1 with 2254 views | Groo |
| Russia demands to see daughter of spy on 17:00 - Apr 1 by Brynmill_Jack |
The photo is dated 7th March. They've only just reported finding the "largest concentration" in the last week. So they probably hadn't "decontaminated" the door when the photograph was taken |
Then they wouldn't have known.
The material would have naturally dissipated to an extent (its not nuclear as far as I know). Who knows what levels would have been left the day after or week after. Perhaps still dangerous but not so deadly.
As I don't know anything about the material then who am I to make an expert analysis. | |
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| Russia demands to see daughter of spy on 17:26 - Apr 1 with 2249 views | Groo |
| Russia demands to see daughter of spy on 17:16 - Apr 1 by Kilkennyjack |
Since you accept everything the UK government say without question, then you are part of the problem.
Think , say, weapons of mass destruction in Iraq and Hillsborough. The UK Govt has got ir badly wrong many times before.
If they have the evidence then get it verified.
Wtf. Russia should ‘go away and shut up’ ... 😂 |
Perhaps you'd like to name the government that's a fountain of truth.
Perhaps your beloved Russian one and its fabulous news agencies that never ever tell a porky and never to do anything to attempt to destabilise other Countries. | |
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| Russia demands to see daughter of spy on 17:29 - Apr 1 with 2240 views | trampie |
Deadly nerve agent kills within minutes etc, all very odd isn't it.  | |
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| Russia demands to see daughter of spy on 17:32 - Apr 1 with 2233 views | Brynmill_Jack |
| Russia demands to see daughter of spy on 17:23 - Apr 1 by Groo |
Then they wouldn't have known.
The material would have naturally dissipated to an extent (its not nuclear as far as I know). Who knows what levels would have been left the day after or week after. Perhaps still dangerous but not so deadly.
As I don't know anything about the material then who am I to make an expert analysis. |
The question the posters of that photo were implying that the policeman pictured should have been affected, standing as he is right next to the front door. | |
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| Russia demands to see daughter of spy on 17:36 - Apr 1 with 2222 views | trampie |
No reports of birds or animals dead in the area.
French heavily involved, Russia wants to know what is going on. | |
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| Russia demands to see daughter of spy on 17:38 - Apr 1 with 2221 views | Jack_Meoff |
| Russia demands to see daughter of spy on 17:16 - Apr 1 by Kilkennyjack |
Since you accept everything the UK government say without question, then you are part of the problem.
Think , say, weapons of mass destruction in Iraq and Hillsborough. The UK Govt has got ir badly wrong many times before.
If they have the evidence then get it verified.
Wtf. Russia should ‘go away and shut up’ ... 😂 |
This is what I'm not getting. People so eager to swallow the official narrative despite the UK government proving over and over again to be lying, duplicitous scumbags. You can add Syria and Libya to that list, and that's just during this century.
The motive is questionable - this is a person who was amnestied by Russia in 2010. As are the means. Why use this nerve agent? It makes no sense. And what, is it some kind of slow release agent that starts working hours after exposure - after you've been shopping and had a nice meal? Surely if the Russian state wanted this person dead (and again, why now?), they wouldn't have undergone this Laurel and Hardy method. Far, far easier ways. The world cup is also a few short months away, why potentially damage such a prestigious event? Makes no sense again.
It could turn out to be Russia. But to expect people to unquestionably believe their story. Sorry, not for me. Not given their track record. |  |
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| Russia demands to see daughter of spy on 17:49 - Apr 1 with 2195 views | DJack |
| Russia demands to see daughter of spy on 17:00 - Apr 1 by Brynmill_Jack |
The photo is dated 7th March. They've only just reported finding the "largest concentration" in the last week. So they probably hadn't "decontaminated" the door when the photograph was taken |
I didn't notice that Brynnie... but what I also should have mentioned earlier is that chemical agents are put into two classes- persistent and non-persistent. Climatic conditions aside, persistent agents can stay around for days but non persistent agents dissipate very quickly. | |
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| Russia demands to see daughter of spy on 17:52 - Apr 1 with 2191 views | Groo |
| Russia demands to see daughter of spy on 17:32 - Apr 1 by Brynmill_Jack |
The question the posters of that photo were implying that the policeman pictured should have been affected, standing as he is right next to the front door. |
and what I'm saying is the potency level could be greatly reduced to negligible after a day. | |
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