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Blackburn Rovers v Swansea City : Matchday Thread 2022/23 UPDATED 00:12 - Feb 16 with 15995 viewsNotLoyal

This is the game which will test the Swans the most over the coming eight days. It’s Blackburn Rovers v Swansea City in the Championship !



Kick off 3pm on Saturday 18th February 2022

Referee : THOMAS BRAMALL
Lino’s : Graham Kane and Richard Wild
Fourth Official : Robert Lewis



Thomas Bramall has never officiated at a home game for the Swans. And this is his third time away. He was the referee when Preston beat Swansea 3-1 back in 2021. And he was also the official when Oxford United dumped Swansea out of the League cup earlier on in the season. Rumour has it he was actually born in a Lane hence his surname.

https://www.fansnetwork.co.uk/football/swanseacity/news/59633/blackburn-rovers-l

Blackburn Rovers: Aynsley Pears, Harry Pickering, Daniel Ayala, Dominic Hyam, Sam Gallagher, Tyrhys Dolan, Sorba Thomas, Hayden Carter, John Buckley, Ben Brereton Diaz, Lewis Travis (captain).

Substitutes: Joe Hilton, Sammie Szmodics, Tyler Morton, Callum Brittain, Ash Phillips, Bradley Dack, Ryan Hedges.

Swansea City: Andy Fisher; Nathan Wood, Harry Darling, Ben Cabango; Joel Latibeaudiere, Jay Fulton, Joe Allen, Matt Grimes (captain), Ryan Manning; Luke Cundle; Joel Piroe.

Substitutes: Andreas Sondergaard, Olivier Ntcham, Morgan Whittaker, Liam Cullen, Liam Walsh, Matty Sorinola, Ollie Cooper.

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Blackburn Rovers v Swansea City : Matchday Thread 2022/23 UPDATED on 17:07 - Feb 18 with 1521 viewsDr_Parnassus

Blackburn Rovers v Swansea City : Matchday Thread 2022/23 UPDATED on 17:01 - Feb 18 by A_Fans_Dad

How did we manage to stay in 12th place?


The league is horrendous. Probably worst I’ve seen it since we have been in it.

Blackburn are woeful and yet they are level on points with the playoffs.

That’s what is so frustrating about the situation, we are so much better and he simply is unable to bring forward an effective way to play.

I keep saying it, but even a moderately competent manager would have us in and around the play off spots.

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Blackburn Rovers v Swansea City : Matchday Thread 2022/23 UPDATED on 17:07 - Feb 18 with 1537 viewsSullutaCreturned

Blackburn Rovers v Swansea City : Matchday Thread 2022/23 UPDATED on 17:01 - Feb 18 by A_Fans_Dad

How did we manage to stay in 12th place?


Most of the rest of this division is utterly useless too, it's our saving grace this season.

The eternal optimists will yell you we're still only 7 points off the play offs though.
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Blackburn Rovers v Swansea City : Matchday Thread 2022/23 UPDATED on 17:09 - Feb 18 with 1505 viewsjack247

Blackburn Rovers v Swansea City : Matchday Thread 2022/23 UPDATED on 16:58 - Feb 18 by union_jack

Oh dear!

Anyone else feel that our attitude was one of let’s not get hurt, try a few things here and there, it really doesn’t matter. That’s what I saw in our play. No urgency, no desire just going through the motions as on the training pitch.

Some of our on the ball play today was almost amateur-like. The ball bobbling under their feet, getting into tight spots Ithaca three defenders around them then crucially losing the ball

Maybe on balance if play we didn’t deserve to lose but I’ll take it if it’s the final nail in Martin’s coffin because we are going to be looking over our shoulders very soon.


Absolutely. Wednesday wasn’t much different. Both teams were abject today, though according to the commentary that’s how Blackburn usually play.

Martin was a broken man after the transfer window and Birmingham game, that seems to have transmitted to the players. It would cost to pay him off and bring in replacements, but if we’re going to do it in the summer, I’d rather the new man have 14 games now and hit next season running rather than come in pre season and take time to adjust and impose.

We should easily be able to afford it with all the deals that we couldn’t quite get over the line in January.
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Blackburn Rovers v Swansea City : Matchday Thread 2022/23 UPDATED on 17:11 - Feb 18 with 1481 viewsSullutaCreturned

Blackburn Rovers v Swansea City : Matchday Thread 2022/23 UPDATED on 17:07 - Feb 18 by Dr_Parnassus

The league is horrendous. Probably worst I’ve seen it since we have been in it.

Blackburn are woeful and yet they are level on points with the playoffs.

That’s what is so frustrating about the situation, we are so much better and he simply is unable to bring forward an effective way to play.

I keep saying it, but even a moderately competent manager would have us in and around the play off spots.


All we need is a manager who plays to our strengths. We'd have a chance.
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Blackburn Rovers v Swansea City : Matchday Thread 2022/23 UPDATED on 17:16 - Feb 18 with 1428 viewsunion_jack

And what the hell has happened to Piroe???

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Blackburn Rovers v Swansea City : Matchday Thread 2022/23 UPDATED on 17:17 - Feb 18 with 1396 viewsDr_Parnassus

Blackburn Rovers v Swansea City : Matchday Thread 2022/23 UPDATED on 17:11 - Feb 18 by SullutaCreturned

All we need is a manager who plays to our strengths. We'd have a chance.




You would think almost 90 games in that he would have realised that, wouldn’t you?

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Blackburn Rovers v Swansea City : Matchday Thread 2022/23 UPDATED on 17:18 - Feb 18 with 1408 viewspete

Blackburn Rovers v Swansea City : Matchday Thread 2022/23 UPDATED on 17:11 - Feb 18 by SullutaCreturned

All we need is a manager who plays to our strengths. We'd have a chance.


whilst seeing every ones point these owners do not care like we all do ,they will not spend the money to remove him and his coaches and they will not really support ANY new manager as this one and the last 2 goes to prove, so untill they sell up get used to this year on year to come because THATS where the MAJOR problems stem from
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Blackburn Rovers v Swansea City : Matchday Thread 2022/23 UPDATED on 17:19 - Feb 18 with 1361 viewsunion_jack

Blackburn Rovers v Swansea City : Matchday Thread 2022/23 UPDATED on 17:18 - Feb 18 by pete

whilst seeing every ones point these owners do not care like we all do ,they will not spend the money to remove him and his coaches and they will not really support ANY new manager as this one and the last 2 goes to prove, so untill they sell up get used to this year on year to come because THATS where the MAJOR problems stem from


If he’s still here next year, it won’t be anything like this one.

It will be FAR worse.

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Blackburn Rovers v Swansea City : Matchday Thread 2022/23 UPDATED on 17:21 - Feb 18 with 1335 viewsDr_Parnassus

Blackburn Rovers v Swansea City : Matchday Thread 2022/23 UPDATED on 17:18 - Feb 18 by pete

whilst seeing every ones point these owners do not care like we all do ,they will not spend the money to remove him and his coaches and they will not really support ANY new manager as this one and the last 2 goes to prove, so untill they sell up get used to this year on year to come because THATS where the MAJOR problems stem from


Do we really have to keep going through this?

- They have spent more in the last 18 months than any other owners of our club outside the Premier League in the same time period.

- They have smashed our transfer record for a single player not once, but twice.

- They have spent more in the football league than any other Swansea owner has

- They have put more personally funded and sourced money in the club than any previous owners have.

Let’s not start these myths again that they are somehow the reason why Martin insists on playing a way that doesn’t work.

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Blackburn Rovers v Swansea City : Matchday Thread 2022/23 UPDATED on 17:21 - Feb 18 with 1341 viewsswan65split

I had had enough 3 games ago, whatever/whoever was responsible for that Jan window, need sacking now! and we need a new manager, new owners,
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Blackburn Rovers v Swansea City : Matchday Thread 2022/23 UPDATED on 17:22 - Feb 18 with 1325 viewsWhiterockin

Blackburn Rovers v Swansea City : Matchday Thread 2022/23 UPDATED on 17:09 - Feb 18 by jack247

Absolutely. Wednesday wasn’t much different. Both teams were abject today, though according to the commentary that’s how Blackburn usually play.

Martin was a broken man after the transfer window and Birmingham game, that seems to have transmitted to the players. It would cost to pay him off and bring in replacements, but if we’re going to do it in the summer, I’d rather the new man have 14 games now and hit next season running rather than come in pre season and take time to adjust and impose.

We should easily be able to afford it with all the deals that we couldn’t quite get over the line in January.


If he is going to go in the summer I can't see why he doesn't go now. How much extra would it cost, a couple of months wages. Even if he had a clause in his contract with an annual decreasing severance, it wouldn't kick in until August 1st the anniversary of his signing.
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Blackburn Rovers v Swansea City : Matchday Thread 2022/23 UPDATED on 17:22 - Feb 18 with 1322 viewscockett_jack

Blackburn Rovers v Swansea City : Matchday Thread 2022/23 UPDATED on 17:07 - Feb 18 by Dr_Parnassus

The league is horrendous. Probably worst I’ve seen it since we have been in it.

Blackburn are woeful and yet they are level on points with the playoffs.

That’s what is so frustrating about the situation, we are so much better and he simply is unable to bring forward an effective way to play.

I keep saying it, but even a moderately competent manager would have us in and around the play off spots.


How can you say we are so better yet bitch constantly about the performances? You really have it in for RM don’t you. Sake.
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Blackburn Rovers v Swansea City : Matchday Thread 2022/23 UPDATED on 17:26 - Feb 18 with 1277 viewsjack247

Blackburn Rovers v Swansea City : Matchday Thread 2022/23 UPDATED on 17:22 - Feb 18 by Whiterockin

If he is going to go in the summer I can't see why he doesn't go now. How much extra would it cost, a couple of months wages. Even if he had a clause in his contract with an annual decreasing severance, it wouldn't kick in until August 1st the anniversary of his signing.


It’s probably a case of paying more compensation to bring someone in now rather than pre season too.

As I said though, if there were genuine attempts to sign players last month, there should be a bit of budget. Is that better spent now, giving the new guy a running start and no excuses in August?
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Blackburn Rovers v Swansea City : Matchday Thread 2022/23 UPDATED on 17:28 - Feb 18 with 1255 viewsDr_Parnassus

Blackburn Rovers v Swansea City : Matchday Thread 2022/23 UPDATED on 17:22 - Feb 18 by cockett_jack

How can you say we are so better yet bitch constantly about the performances? You really have it in for RM don’t you. Sake.


How can I say what? I don’t know what you are accusing me of there I’m afraid, and I read it three times.

But if you are asking me if I rate Russell Martin, no.

No I don’t.

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Blackburn Rovers v Swansea City : Matchday Thread 2022/23 UPDATED on 17:28 - Feb 18 with 1262 viewspete

Blackburn Rovers v Swansea City : Matchday Thread 2022/23 UPDATED on 17:21 - Feb 18 by Dr_Parnassus

Do we really have to keep going through this?

- They have spent more in the last 18 months than any other owners of our club outside the Premier League in the same time period.

- They have smashed our transfer record for a single player not once, but twice.

- They have spent more in the football league than any other Swansea owner has

- They have put more personally funded and sourced money in the club than any previous owners have.

Let’s not start these myths again that they are somehow the reason why Martin insists on playing a way that doesn’t work.


then why arnt they here sorting the mess we are in which in my opinion they have created? the moral of supporters and players is rock bottom because THEY DO NOT CARE
sorry if you do not agree but you wont change my mind
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Blackburn Rovers v Swansea City : Matchday Thread 2022/23 UPDATED on 17:29 - Feb 18 with 1236 viewsDr_Parnassus

Blackburn Rovers v Swansea City : Matchday Thread 2022/23 UPDATED on 17:21 - Feb 18 by swan65split

I had had enough 3 games ago, whatever/whoever was responsible for that Jan window, need sacking now! and we need a new manager, new owners,


January has nothing to do with it.

We were 15th before it. We were 15th last season.

I’m sure Karlan Grant wouldn’t have fixed Martins system.

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Blackburn Rovers v Swansea City : Matchday Thread 2022/23 UPDATED on 17:30 - Feb 18 with 1200 viewsDr_Parnassus

Blackburn Rovers v Swansea City : Matchday Thread 2022/23 UPDATED on 17:28 - Feb 18 by pete

then why arnt they here sorting the mess we are in which in my opinion they have created? the moral of supporters and players is rock bottom because THEY DO NOT CARE
sorry if you do not agree but you wont change my mind


What mess have they created?

They appointed Martin, we were all relatively happy.

The majority of the fan base seemed to want to give him time, even said that we should keep him if relegated.

What are they doing that you disapprove of exactly?

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Blackburn Rovers v Swansea City : Matchday Thread 2022/23 UPDATED on 17:31 - Feb 18 with 1207 viewsTummer_from_Texas

Blackburn Rovers v Swansea City : Matchday Thread 2022/23 UPDATED on 17:07 - Feb 18 by Dr_Parnassus

The league is horrendous. Probably worst I’ve seen it since we have been in it.

Blackburn are woeful and yet they are level on points with the playoffs.

That’s what is so frustrating about the situation, we are so much better and he simply is unable to bring forward an effective way to play.

I keep saying it, but even a moderately competent manager would have us in and around the play off spots.


At the minimum.

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Blackburn Rovers v Swansea City : Matchday Thread 2022/23 UPDATED on 17:31 - Feb 18 with 1206 viewsraynor94

Blackburn Rovers v Swansea City : Matchday Thread 2022/23 UPDATED on 17:22 - Feb 18 by cockett_jack

How can you say we are so better yet bitch constantly about the performances? You really have it in for RM don’t you. Sake.


We would be far better without Martin now, surely you can see that?

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Blackburn Rovers v Swansea City : Matchday Thread 2022/23 UPDATED on 17:33 - Feb 18 with 1180 viewspete

Blackburn Rovers v Swansea City : Matchday Thread 2022/23 UPDATED on 17:29 - Feb 18 by Dr_Parnassus

January has nothing to do with it.

We were 15th before it. We were 15th last season.

I’m sure Karlan Grant wouldn’t have fixed Martins system.


of course it has we lost 5 players brought 1 back from a loan and were in striking distance of the play offs the way the owners work what is the point of a C E O or recruitment team because they must know what they can spend and when they sort deals the guess who vetos them sorry these people are the worst thing to happen to Swansea fc EVER
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Blackburn Rovers v Swansea City : Matchday Thread 2022/23 UPDATED on 17:35 - Feb 18 with 1145 viewsploppy

People can blame the manager all they want but I've come to the conclusion that the players aren't good enough. Our position in the table reflects the quality of those players.

Shocking defending again to concede late on. It comes down to concentrating for 90+ mins and having composure when things get frantic. Our players can't do either of those.
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Blackburn Rovers v Swansea City : Matchday Thread 2022/23 UPDATED on 17:36 - Feb 18 with 1126 viewsDr_Parnassus

Blackburn Rovers v Swansea City : Matchday Thread 2022/23 UPDATED on 17:33 - Feb 18 by pete

of course it has we lost 5 players brought 1 back from a loan and were in striking distance of the play offs the way the owners work what is the point of a C E O or recruitment team because they must know what they can spend and when they sort deals the guess who vetos them sorry these people are the worst thing to happen to Swansea fc EVER


We were not in striking distance of the play offs. It’s a mathematical fallacy, it takes Martin 18 games to win 3 games… people see a points gap and immediately convert it into how many games worth of points it is.

It doesn’t work like that.

We did not “lose” 5 players.

We allowed players to leave that Martin didn’t want to play, it’s a massive difference.

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Blackburn Rovers v Swansea City : Matchday Thread 2022/23 UPDATED on 17:39 - Feb 18 with 1107 viewsFlashberryjack

Blackburn Rovers v Swansea City : Matchday Thread 2022/23 UPDATED on 17:31 - Feb 18 by raynor94

We would be far better without Martin now, surely you can see that?


If ever there was a game to bring Ntcham on from the bench, this was the game.

What did the clown do, bring on Cullen.

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Blackburn Rovers v Swansea City : Matchday Thread 2022/23 UPDATED on 17:35 - Feb 18 by ploppy

People can blame the manager all they want but I've come to the conclusion that the players aren't good enough. Our position in the table reflects the quality of those players.

Shocking defending again to concede late on. It comes down to concentrating for 90+ mins and having composure when things get frantic. Our players can't do either of those.


far post again, it was the same under that other one Cooper, ball watching yep, even at corners, not even looking around to see who was there and taking up positions,
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Blackburn Rovers v Swansea City : Matchday Thread 2022/23 UPDATED on 17:42 - Feb 18 with 1070 viewsDr_Parnassus

Blackburn Rovers v Swansea City : Matchday Thread 2022/23 UPDATED on 17:35 - Feb 18 by ploppy

People can blame the manager all they want but I've come to the conclusion that the players aren't good enough. Our position in the table reflects the quality of those players.

Shocking defending again to concede late on. It comes down to concentrating for 90+ mins and having composure when things get frantic. Our players can't do either of those.


That’s a strange conclusion to make, but I suppose it saves Russell Martin from criticism so it’s a conclusion I’m sure many will make. Either that, or the owners, or both.

But definitely not the guy that has never finished in the top half in his managerial life and plays the same way every week for 4 seasons straight now without it ever really working.

Can’t be his fault. That would be silly.

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