| US Elections 2016 10:34 - Oct 5 with 66017 views | BrianMcCarthy |
Great site here for tracking projections and polling for the Presidential, House and Senate elections over the next month. A wealth of info on each state in each race.
http://www.electionprojection.com/latest-polls/house-polls.php
Hopefully the warmongering Clinton wins it over the dangerously doolally Trump, and hopefully the Democrats can get the Senate back. |  |
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| US Elections 2016 on 10:02 - Nov 9 with 2352 views | CHUBBS |
| US Elections 2016 on 09:51 - Nov 9 by nadera78 |
Actually Clinton got more support from working class people. Meanwhile, Trump had a 15 point lead over her amongst white, college educated men and a clear lead with rich, college educated people overall. He also got 30% of the Hispanic vote and 25% of the Jewish vote. The stats are pretty clear.
Whatever the commentators say, this victory had very little to do with poor, uneducated people. |
Incredible he got the votes he did considering the hatchet job the corporate elite imposed upon him.
The people are tired of being branded and told what to think and yet again the silent majority have spoken.
Whilst many are still influenced by the corporate media others have decided to do their own research using the many avenues of alternative information not seen in the mainstream.
Thank God for the internet.
This is a vote against the corporate establishment. |  | | |
| US Elections 2016 on 10:07 - Nov 9 with 2322 views | 2Thomas2Bowles |
Guess what, there will be no whining for a second vote even with a much closer % |  |
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| US Elections 2016 on 10:09 - Nov 9 with 2304 views | connell10 |
| US Elections 2016 on 09:24 - Nov 9 by robith |
Wow, our descent into fascism was quick if connell10, who has some of the most mainstream opinions I've ever come across, are now minority. |
Thanks mate.... i think! |  |
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| US Elections 2016 on 10:12 - Nov 9 with 2284 views | Hooparoo |
| US Elections 2016 on 09:36 - Nov 9 by ElHoop |
Oh well - that was interesting. Had my little radio on all night and kept waking up as things began to develop. I'm amazed that they have that many Trump voters over there, but that's how it is.
I do think that those who seek to deride and ridicule those inclined to support the likes of Brexit and Trump need to be more careful. It was possible to make an intellectual case for Brexit and for all I know there was an intellectual case for Trump if you looked hard enough - so if you are then dismissed by politicians, media and everyone else as 'racist' or 'hating immigrants' then you then just dig in ad think 'f*ck you'. The answer is to offer a better alternative or at least tackle the intellectual arguments. It doesn't happen, so in the end we all probably get what we deserve. |
Great post mate. Spot on! |  |
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| US Elections 2016 on 10:18 - Nov 9 with 2247 views | bosh67 |
The Devil has tricked his way into the Whitehouse. |  |
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| US Elections 2016 on 10:22 - Nov 9 with 2236 views | ElHoop |
| US Elections 2016 on 10:12 - Nov 9 by Hooparoo |
Great post mate. Spot on! |
Well i don't know whether it is, but thanks anyway. I've felt on the receiving end over Brexit, as it's easy to kick Brexiteers but there's no kick back that remainers can feel - no categorisation, no victimisation - so it's a one-sided sort of situation. You start to feel animosity towards the political class and media and lots of the population, which they can't feel back because there's no specific position to ridicule as such, even if you wanted to. They're fighting on the battleground which you created by wanting to Brexit or preferring Trump to Clinton. There's no other battleground - the American election seemed to be about Trump. It was a referendum - Trump Yes or Trump No. |  | | |
| US Elections 2016 on 10:24 - Nov 9 with 2231 views | peejaybee |
Good time to be an American Wall Builder. |  |
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| US Elections 2016 on 10:26 - Nov 9 with 2214 views | SimonJames |
All this comparison of Brexit and the US election result is nonsense IMAO.
The Brexit result was due, in a large part, to voter apathy or just not knowing what to do because the economic implications were far too complex to understand.
But now we have retail price inflation and the slump in the pound making foreign holidays more expensive, if we ran the Brexit vote again I bet most of the people who didn't bother to vote last time would actually turn out and the result would go the other way.
The US result featured record numbers of voters.
What we're seeing in the US is a fundamental shift in public attitude to the political establishment, the status quo and their perception of where they stand in the world. |  |
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| US Elections 2016 on 10:34 - Nov 9 with 2184 views | CamberleyR |
Is Trump still claiming the system is rigged? |  |
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| US Elections 2016 on 10:36 - Nov 9 with 2180 views | ElHoop |
| US Elections 2016 on 10:26 - Nov 9 by SimonJames |
All this comparison of Brexit and the US election result is nonsense IMAO.
The Brexit result was due, in a large part, to voter apathy or just not knowing what to do because the economic implications were far too complex to understand.
But now we have retail price inflation and the slump in the pound making foreign holidays more expensive, if we ran the Brexit vote again I bet most of the people who didn't bother to vote last time would actually turn out and the result would go the other way.
The US result featured record numbers of voters.
What we're seeing in the US is a fundamental shift in public attitude to the political establishment, the status quo and their perception of where they stand in the world. |
I don't agree with that. The EU Referendum was necessary sooner or later, as we were always reliant on the Eurozone being stable and providing near full-employment whilst we were allowing free movement into our independent economy. That Eurozone stability and prosperity just hasn't happened.
If we hadn't have had the referendum then we'd be stuck with two 'single issues' contaminating our national politics - Brexit and Scottish Independence. We've resolved the EU issue and now we need to tackle Scotland one way or the other. If we stay in the EU then the Brexit single issue just makes the whole political scene impossible for the main parties, unless there's an acceptable settlement with the EU, which may of course yet happen.
The USA probably didn't want Clinton or Trump, just as most of us didn't want to stay in the EU as it was or leave it as a concept. They wanted a better America and we wanted a better EU. | | | |
| US Elections 2016 on 10:41 - Nov 9 with 2152 views | Hooparoo |
| US Elections 2016 on 10:22 - Nov 9 by ElHoop |
Well i don't know whether it is, but thanks anyway. I've felt on the receiving end over Brexit, as it's easy to kick Brexiteers but there's no kick back that remainers can feel - no categorisation, no victimisation - so it's a one-sided sort of situation. You start to feel animosity towards the political class and media and lots of the population, which they can't feel back because there's no specific position to ridicule as such, even if you wanted to. They're fighting on the battleground which you created by wanting to Brexit or preferring Trump to Clinton. There's no other battleground - the American election seemed to be about Trump. It was a referendum - Trump Yes or Trump No. |
Politicians should remember that they have two ears and one mouth and use them in that proportion. | |
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| US Elections 2016 on 10:45 - Nov 9 with 2135 views | LongsufferingR |
Just goes to show what happens if you name your daughter Chelsea.
Karma. |  | | |
| US Elections 2016 on 10:45 - Nov 9 with 2135 views | Antti_Heinola |
| US Elections 2016 on 10:02 - Nov 9 by CHUBBS |
Incredible he got the votes he did considering the hatchet job the corporate elite imposed upon him.
The people are tired of being branded and told what to think and yet again the silent majority have spoken.
Whilst many are still influenced by the corporate media others have decided to do their own research using the many avenues of alternative information not seen in the mainstream.
Thank God for the internet.
This is a vote against the corporate establishment. |
This is brilliant Chubbs. A multi-millionaire who inherited all his wealth and has led a propfoundly easy and privileged life is a vote against the establishment? What establishment? I don't think the media forced him to say Mexicans were rapists, or forced him to talk about how he liked to grab pussy, or forced him to suggest building a wall to keep Mexicans out and so forth, did they?
The very idea that this will keep the 'corporate elite' out is the most laughable thing I've ever seen! He is the corporate elite personified! |  |
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| US Elections 2016 on 10:47 - Nov 9 with 2122 views | Juzzie |
Forget for a moment the rights & wrongs of Remain/Leave and Trump/Clinton, I'm interested to know what has happened over the last 10,20,30,40 years that has got us to where we are.
My theory is this...... in the UK, London and the south east has the biggest population density, contributes probably the most to the UK economy and mainly voted Remain whilst the midlands and the forgotten ex-industrial north all voted Leave.
In the US, The upper east cost and largely west coast have the biggest population density, contributes probably the most to the US economy and mainly voted Clinton whilst the forgotten ex-industrial middle all voted Trump.
Big similarity. I think these people feel very much isolated by their own country whilst the politicians forge ahead putting the rest of the world ahead of their own people and those people have now fought back.
Thoughts?
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| US Elections 2016 on 10:47 - Nov 9 with 2121 views | 1BobbyHazell |
| US Elections 2016 on 10:18 - Nov 9 by bosh67 |
The Devil has tricked his way into the Whitehouse. |
He never left bro. |  | | |
| US Elections 2016 on 10:53 - Nov 9 with 2757 views | LongsufferingR |
| US Elections 2016 on 10:47 - Nov 9 by Juzzie |
Forget for a moment the rights & wrongs of Remain/Leave and Trump/Clinton, I'm interested to know what has happened over the last 10,20,30,40 years that has got us to where we are.
My theory is this...... in the UK, London and the south east has the biggest population density, contributes probably the most to the UK economy and mainly voted Remain whilst the midlands and the forgotten ex-industrial north all voted Leave.
In the US, The upper east cost and largely west coast have the biggest population density, contributes probably the most to the US economy and mainly voted Clinton whilst the forgotten ex-industrial middle all voted Trump.
Big similarity. I think these people feel very much isolated by their own country whilst the politicians forge ahead putting the rest of the world ahead of their own people and those people have now fought back.
Thoughts?
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Very true. On a smaller scale, it also accounts for Corbyn as Labour leader. | | | |
| US Elections 2016 on 10:55 - Nov 9 with 2750 views | BlackCrowe |
Next up Le Penn and France. |  |
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| US Elections 2016 on 10:57 - Nov 9 with 2737 views | DesertBoot |
Yep. French and German elections next year...... |  |
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| US Elections 2016 on 11:06 - Nov 9 with 2717 views | ElHoop |
| US Elections 2016 on 10:55 - Nov 9 by BlackCrowe |
Next up Le Penn and France. |
I think that Juncker will be the next to go. | | | |
| US Elections 2016 on 11:07 - Nov 9 with 2584 views | Dorse |
The way this year is panning out, we should all lump on Teresa May calling a snap election and getting beaten by Corbyn. |  |
| 'What do we want? We don't know! When do we want it? Now!' |
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| US Elections 2016 on 11:12 - Nov 9 with 2561 views | Brightonhoop |
| US Elections 2016 on 11:07 - Nov 9 by Dorse |
The way this year is panning out, we should all lump on Teresa May calling a snap election and getting beaten by Corbyn. |
Surely Trumps election to the White House is the fault of Corbyn and the loony left?!  |  | | |
| US Elections 2016 on 11:23 - Nov 9 with 2519 views | johncharles |
America has voted in the man most likely to start a nuclear war as president.
Whoopie we're gonna die. [Post edited 9 Nov 2016 11:23]
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| US Elections 2016 on 11:29 - Nov 9 with 2500 views | johncharles |
| US Elections 2016 on 09:21 - Nov 9 by RosieG |
Did you do maths at school? |
Yes, and remember that I had to show how I arrived at a figure. | |
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| US Elections 2016 on 11:30 - Nov 9 with 2494 views | ElHoop |
| US Elections 2016 on 11:23 - Nov 9 by johncharles |
America has voted in the man most likely to start a nuclear war as president.
Whoopie we're gonna die. [Post edited 9 Nov 2016 11:23]
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I'm old enough to remember Reagan being elected and the general feeling at the time was much the same 'Two Tribes' and all that. As it turned out he ended up being the exact opposite - nuclear war became less likely after his time in office. I'm not sure that Trump is another Reagan though, mind you, but everyone did think that they were barking mad for electing a second rate actor as President. Hopefully Trump will exceed (my) expectations. | | | |
| US Elections 2016 on 11:44 - Nov 9 with 2441 views | Boston |
Cor, woke up this morning to find a text from my bookie asking would I take the money in installments. |  |
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