| Hornets game 11:49 - Jan 17 with 28889 views | onedalefan |
Called off due to snow making the surrounding area unsafe and taking conditions of people travelling into account.Says that the pitch is rated 50/50 to play but would take time to move the snow. Would suggest they were still thinking of playing even after yesterday. |  | | |  |
| Hornets game on 21:54 - Jan 19 with 2369 views | Vespa |
As you say, Hornets don't have any muscle. You can't exercise muscle you don't have, oxymoron springs to mind. |  |
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| Hornets game on 21:56 - Jan 19 with 2364 views | nordenblue |
| Hornets game on 21:49 - Jan 19 by Vespa |
I don't see any "ifs" and only one "but". |
Try looking again |  | | |
| Hornets game on 21:57 - Jan 19 with 2364 views | D_Alien |
| Hornets game on 21:49 - Jan 19 by Vespa |
I don't see any "ifs" and only one "but". |
I was trying to allow you to save face.
In fact, there were five "needs":
close the bar
close the catering
instruct the ground staff not to mark the pitch
or put the sticks up
put a new padlock on the floodlight switch
That makes Hornets sound like a case of special needs, with our brilliant chairman (a man of integrity) acting like a bully. Typical Hornets blather. |  |
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| Hornets game on 23:07 - Jan 19 with 2271 views | 49thseason |
| Hornets game on 21:54 - Jan 19 by Vespa |
As you say, Hornets don't have any muscle. You can't exercise muscle you don't have, oxymoron springs to mind. |
Or is it perhaps a paradox? |  | | |
| Hornets game on 23:16 - Jan 19 with 2261 views | dingdangblue |
| Hornets game on 21:54 - Jan 19 by Vespa |
As you say, Hornets don't have any muscle. You can't exercise muscle you don't have, oxymoron springs to mind. |
Or in Hornets case Poxy Morons. |  |
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| Hornets game on 23:32 - Jan 19 with 2240 views | Vespa |
| Hornets game on 21:57 - Jan 19 by D_Alien |
I was trying to allow you to save face.
In fact, there were five "needs":
close the bar
close the catering
instruct the ground staff not to mark the pitch
or put the sticks up
put a new padlock on the floodlight switch
That makes Hornets sound like a case of special needs, with our brilliant chairman (a man of integrity) acting like a bully. Typical Hornets blather. |
Mr Dunphy could fook Hornets off any time he wanted to and there'd be nothing Hornets or the RFL could do about it. He could fook them off now and the worse that would happen would be the RFL threatened to delay doing some sort of deal for their shares of Spotland and I don't even think the RFL give enough of a fook about Hornets to even do that.
There's a reason he let's them play at Spotland and it's got nothing to do with being forced to let them, or being cajoled, or the RFL putting pressure on him or even "needing" them.
He lets them play there because he wants to, no other reason and to be honest it doesn't matter what any poster on here says or thinks, that includes you and me. | |
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| Hornets game on 23:40 - Jan 19 with 2220 views | Vespa |
| Hornets game on 23:07 - Jan 19 by 49thseason |
Or is it perhaps a paradox? |
If a paradox sounds ridiculous or contradictory but ultimately turns out to be correct then I'll stick with oxymoron. Just for the fact that they really don't have any muscle or clout. | |
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| Hornets game on 10:25 - Jan 20 with 2080 views | JimmyRustler |
| Hornets game on 23:40 - Jan 19 by Vespa |
If a paradox sounds ridiculous or contradictory but ultimately turns out to be correct then I'll stick with oxymoron. Just for the fact that they really don't have any muscle or clout. |
I think you need to look up the definition of oxymoron and probably moron as well whilst you're at it. |  | | |
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| Hornets game on 14:51 - Jan 20 with 1815 views | Vespa |
I wholeheartedly agree that Mr Dunphy is a man of integrity.
Integrity is not his only quality though. He has leadership qualities, managerial skills, he's decisive and can see the bottom line and what's important far earlier than you or I can.
He's had ample opportunity to kick Hornets out of Spotland, most notably 2009 after the last Hornets were driven into the ground, but he didn't. He didn't, not because Hornets or anyone else had him over a barrel but because he recognised that on balance it was better for the Dale to have the new Hornets at Spotland.
I sure he understands that there are downsides to Hornets playing at Spotland but I'm also sure he recognises that there are advantages and that the advantages out way the negatives long term.
Where his integrity comes in is that he's fair minded enough to take the rough with the smooth and for that he should be applauded.
There might be some posters who want to take the smooth and leave the rough, but they're not in charge. [Post edited 20 Jan 2016 14:52]
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| Hornets game on 15:08 - Jan 20 with 1777 views | MoonyDale |
| Hornets game on 14:51 - Jan 20 by Vespa |
I wholeheartedly agree that Mr Dunphy is a man of integrity.
Integrity is not his only quality though. He has leadership qualities, managerial skills, he's decisive and can see the bottom line and what's important far earlier than you or I can.
He's had ample opportunity to kick Hornets out of Spotland, most notably 2009 after the last Hornets were driven into the ground, but he didn't. He didn't, not because Hornets or anyone else had him over a barrel but because he recognised that on balance it was better for the Dale to have the new Hornets at Spotland.
I sure he understands that there are downsides to Hornets playing at Spotland but I'm also sure he recognises that there are advantages and that the advantages out way the negatives long term.
Where his integrity comes in is that he's fair minded enough to take the rough with the smooth and for that he should be applauded.
There might be some posters who want to take the smooth and leave the rough, but they're not in charge. [Post edited 20 Jan 2016 14:52]
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Smooth? Advantages? Enlighten if you would because I see neither..... |  |
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| Hornets game on 15:13 - Jan 20 with 1757 views | Vespa |
| Hornets game on 15:08 - Jan 20 by MoonyDale |
Smooth? Advantages? Enlighten if you would because I see neither..... |
You don't have to, Mr Dunphy does. | |
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| Hornets game on 15:19 - Jan 20 with 1749 views | mingthemerciless |
At the risk of sounding like an echo the sole arbiter of wether a game should be played or not is the match referee. The responsibility rests with him alone. That's exactly how it should be. Not the groundsman, managers, players, directors, the little old lady who makes the tea, fans message board warriors. In any sport the match official or officials decide. The referee decided the pitch was playable. That'll do for me. | | | |
| Hornets game on 15:21 - Jan 20 with 1742 views | MoonyDale |
| Hornets game on 15:19 - Jan 20 by mingthemerciless |
At the risk of sounding like an echo the sole arbiter of wether a game should be played or not is the match referee. The responsibility rests with him alone. That's exactly how it should be. Not the groundsman, managers, players, directors, the little old lady who makes the tea, fans message board warriors. In any sport the match official or officials decide. The referee decided the pitch was playable. That'll do for me. |
It is not down to the referee in a RL friendly, it is decided between the 2 clubs concerned. | |
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| Hornets game on 15:22 - Jan 20 with 1733 views | MoonyDale |
| Hornets game on 15:13 - Jan 20 by Vespa |
You don't have to, Mr Dunphy does. |
So that would be a no then? Didn't think so .. | |
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| Hornets game on 15:24 - Jan 20 with 1728 views | lurker |
| Hornets game on 15:21 - Jan 20 by MoonyDale |
It is not down to the referee in a RL friendly, it is decided between the 2 clubs concerned. |
And I am pretty sure that no rugby league official will have been behind the decision to hold moonlight training sessions on the Spotland pitch in the past either. |  | | |
| Hornets game on 15:24 - Jan 20 with 1725 views | mingthemerciless |
| Hornets game on 15:21 - Jan 20 by MoonyDale |
It is not down to the referee in a RL friendly, it is decided between the 2 clubs concerned. |
So the two clubs could overrule the referee and play in conditions that he may deem unsafe ? I can't see that happening somehow. | | | |
| Hornets game on 15:40 - Jan 20 with 1663 views | TVOS1907 |
| Hornets game on 15:19 - Jan 20 by mingthemerciless |
At the risk of sounding like an echo the sole arbiter of wether a game should be played or not is the match referee. The responsibility rests with him alone. That's exactly how it should be. Not the groundsman, managers, players, directors, the little old lady who makes the tea, fans message board warriors. In any sport the match official or officials decide. The referee decided the pitch was playable. That'll do for me. |
At the risk of sounding like another echo, football and egg chasing have different standards for their surfaces. [Post edited 20 Jan 2016 15:40]
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| Hornets game on 15:40 - Jan 20 with 2172 views | dingdangblue |
| Hornets game on 15:24 - Jan 20 by mingthemerciless |
So the two clubs could overrule the referee and play in conditions that he may deem unsafe ? I can't see that happening somehow. |
It wasn't unsafe. But playing the game would have irretrievable effects on the playing surface for the rest of the season. | |
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| Hornets game on 15:40 - Jan 20 with 2175 views | Vespa |
| Hornets game on 15:22 - Jan 20 by MoonyDale |
So that would be a no then? Didn't think so .. |
Bollox.
That wouldn't be a "no then", that'd be a "you aren't smarter than Mr Dunphy". | |
| Up the Dale, C'mon Hornets |
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| Hornets game on 15:40 - Jan 20 with 2174 views | TVOS1907 |
| Hornets game on 14:51 - Jan 20 by Vespa |
I wholeheartedly agree that Mr Dunphy is a man of integrity.
Integrity is not his only quality though. He has leadership qualities, managerial skills, he's decisive and can see the bottom line and what's important far earlier than you or I can.
He's had ample opportunity to kick Hornets out of Spotland, most notably 2009 after the last Hornets were driven into the ground, but he didn't. He didn't, not because Hornets or anyone else had him over a barrel but because he recognised that on balance it was better for the Dale to have the new Hornets at Spotland.
I sure he understands that there are downsides to Hornets playing at Spotland but I'm also sure he recognises that there are advantages and that the advantages out way the negatives long term.
Where his integrity comes in is that he's fair minded enough to take the rough with the smooth and for that he should be applauded.
There might be some posters who want to take the smooth and leave the rough, but they're not in charge. [Post edited 20 Jan 2016 14:52]
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What advantages? | |
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| Hornets game on 15:44 - Jan 20 with 2153 views | Vespa |
This is bollox also.
Mr Dunphy gets a chance to fook Hornets off at the end of every Hornets season when the yearly contract comes up for negotiation. | |
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| Hornets game on 16:02 - Jan 20 with 2113 views | mingthemerciless |
A year or two back we were due to play St Helens in a pre season friendly There had been a frost on Saturday night. The club called in the match referee early that morning . He decided the pitch was un playable. The usual bit in front of the main stand was frozen.
According to you we could have ignored him and played then ? Presumably without a referee.
I did a bit of reffing many years ago and I recall calling a Boxing Day soccer match off because of the pitch condition after about 20 minutes. The players didn't carry on without me. | | | |
| Hornets game on 16:10 - Jan 20 with 2083 views | Vespa |
You don't need to be smarter than Mr Dunphy to know whether he's right or wrong letting Hornets play at Spotland?
Really?
Why don't you go and tell him so?
He'd wipe the floor with you. [Post edited 20 Jan 2016 16:20]
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| Up the Dale, C'mon Hornets |
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| Hornets game on 16:15 - Jan 20 with 2061 views | TVOS1907 |
| Hornets game on 16:10 - Jan 20 by Vespa |
You don't need to be smarter than Mr Dunphy to know whether he's right or wrong letting Hornets play at Spotland?
Really?
Why don't you go and tell him so?
He'd wipe the floor with you. [Post edited 20 Jan 2016 16:20]
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What do you mean by 'write or wrong'?
#goodedit [Post edited 20 Jan 2016 16:27]
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| Hornets game on 16:15 - Jan 20 with 2066 views | TVOS1907 |
| Hornets game on 16:02 - Jan 20 by mingthemerciless |
A year or two back we were due to play St Helens in a pre season friendly There had been a frost on Saturday night. The club called in the match referee early that morning . He decided the pitch was un playable. The usual bit in front of the main stand was frozen.
According to you we could have ignored him and played then ? Presumably without a referee.
I did a bit of reffing many years ago and I recall calling a Boxing Day soccer match off because of the pitch condition after about 20 minutes. The players didn't carry on without me. |
Sounds like you shouldn't have started the game in the first place.
A bit like Hornets the other week. | |
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