| The Bury AGM on 17:14 - Nov 4 with 3050 views | 442Dale |
| The Bury AGM on 17:09 - Nov 4 by ColDale |
like I said, if everything was open and above board, surely things would have been sorted a long time ago. Seems like a nice little pat on the head and massaging the egos is enough to placate people. |
So are Forever Bury going to the Bury Times with an update?
And what about this: "The Board of Forever Bury would like to ask any of our members who are shareholders to try and get down to the AGM to have their voice heard and play a part in blocking this proposal but if you are unable to attend then please fill out a proxy form naming Forever Bury as the proxy. All proxy forms need to be at the club before 9.00am on Monday so please try and get them sent ASAP or drop them off on Saturday at the match."
Shareholders may have made FB a proxy and yet there's a change in the situation! |  |
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| The Bury AGM on 17:31 - Nov 4 with 2995 views | D_Alien |
| The Bury AGM on 17:14 - Nov 4 by 442Dale |
So are Forever Bury going to the Bury Times with an update?
And what about this: "The Board of Forever Bury would like to ask any of our members who are shareholders to try and get down to the AGM to have their voice heard and play a part in blocking this proposal but if you are unable to attend then please fill out a proxy form naming Forever Bury as the proxy. All proxy forms need to be at the club before 9.00am on Monday so please try and get them sent ASAP or drop them off on Saturday at the match."
Shareholders may have made FB a proxy and yet there's a change in the situation! |
How ironic if the main board proposal is blocked after the unofficial agreement to "move forward positively" has seemingly been reached.
Perhaps we'll have ballot papers disappearing? It's getting better by the minute! |  |
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| The Bury AGM on 17:35 - Nov 4 with 2975 views | ColDale |
| The Bury AGM on 17:14 - Nov 4 by 442Dale |
So are Forever Bury going to the Bury Times with an update?
And what about this: "The Board of Forever Bury would like to ask any of our members who are shareholders to try and get down to the AGM to have their voice heard and play a part in blocking this proposal but if you are unable to attend then please fill out a proxy form naming Forever Bury as the proxy. All proxy forms need to be at the club before 9.00am on Monday so please try and get them sent ASAP or drop them off on Saturday at the match."
Shareholders may have made FB a proxy and yet there's a change in the situation! |
Given the awkward time of the meeting, there will be shareholders who have passed on their vote to FB only to find out that FB will now be voting against their wishes. Couldn't make it up. |  | | |
| The Bury AGM on 17:55 - Nov 4 with 2917 views | Brierls |
I do get the feeling that those in positions of power at Forever Bury are as much use as a chocolate fireguard. Day and Thomas will have sold the dream, promised increased involvement for Forever Bury, and it's been lapped up and seen as a victory for their members.
If only the Forever Bury board representatives would take a step back and ask themselves why messrs Day and Thomas have decided to talk now?!?! The day before the AGM and off the back of a strongly worded statement issued by Forever Bury encouraging all and sundry to stand up against the proposals.
I fear for the fans of bury more now than I did when the AGM and proposed changes to articles were first announced. Regardless of any reasonable turnout, Forever Bury supporting Day, Thomas et al is already a majority vote. |  | | |
| The Bury AGM on 17:56 - Nov 4 with 2915 views | SuddenLad |
| The Bury AGM on 17:35 - Nov 4 by ColDale |
Given the awkward time of the meeting, there will be shareholders who have passed on their vote to FB only to find out that FB will now be voting against their wishes. Couldn't make it up. |
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| The Bury AGM on 07:58 - Nov 5 with 2639 views | aleanddale |
Couldnt make this up.
Bury Football Club is a bigger circus than the one Billy Smart used to run!!
But they have the JD Money and Walter Mitty Day.
let them lap it up. I feel sorry for the decent fans but not the ones with delusion of grandeur. |  | | |
| The Bury AGM on 09:18 - Nov 5 with 2552 views | 442Dale |
Has it finished yet? | |
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| The Bury AGM on 11:50 - Nov 5 with 2370 views | olympicdale |
And I thought Notts c*nty fans were deluded...  |  |
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| The Bury AGM on 12:15 - Nov 5 with 2306 views | SuddenLad |
It seems that the more that is promised, they run like lap dogs to grovel at the masters' table.
And still no accounts have been produced. Unbelievable. | |
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| The Bury AGM on 12:37 - Nov 5 with 2235 views | aleanddale |
The bit i like >
Mr Day has put Hundreds and hundreds of thousands of pounds into the club.....
Erm.....
Would have a significant wager thats not entirley true!! His Money?? erm - No. | | | |
| The Bury AGM on 12:40 - Nov 5 with 2221 views | 100notout |
| The Bury AGM on 12:37 - Nov 5 by aleanddale |
The bit i like >
Mr Day has put Hundreds and hundreds of thousands of pounds into the club.....
Erm.....
Would have a significant wager thats not entirley true!! His Money?? erm - No. |
Didn't anyone ask a question about the loans taken out? | |
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| The Bury AGM on 13:16 - Nov 5 with 2120 views | ceme_ender |
| The Bury AGM on 12:40 - Nov 5 by 100notout |
Didn't anyone ask a question about the loans taken out? |
The question was asked on how are we affording the current squad with our average gates of about 4k, we have received third party investment and it was stated we are in a very healthy financial position. Another meeting planned for end of jan, when accounts will have been finanised, with plans in place for redevelopment of main stand, which hasn't been much of a secret.
Can't really question much about whats happening on pitch as we playing some top stuff, good young side. It's pretty clear there is money there from somewhere as decent players follow cash, thats the only reason we have been able to sign the squad we have now. | | | |
| The Bury AGM on 13:24 - Nov 5 with 2089 views | judd |
| The Bury AGM on 13:16 - Nov 5 by ceme_ender |
The question was asked on how are we affording the current squad with our average gates of about 4k, we have received third party investment and it was stated we are in a very healthy financial position. Another meeting planned for end of jan, when accounts will have been finanised, with plans in place for redevelopment of main stand, which hasn't been much of a secret.
Can't really question much about whats happening on pitch as we playing some top stuff, good young side. It's pretty clear there is money there from somewhere as decent players follow cash, thats the only reason we have been able to sign the squad we have now. |
£250k saved in abolishing appearance money.
However, your accounts that will be discussed at the next general meeting in January will be at least a year out of date and will in no way demonstrate the reality of your cash position. |  |
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| The Bury AGM on 13:25 - Nov 5 with 2085 views | olympicdale |
| The Bury AGM on 13:16 - Nov 5 by ceme_ender |
The question was asked on how are we affording the current squad with our average gates of about 4k, we have received third party investment and it was stated we are in a very healthy financial position. Another meeting planned for end of jan, when accounts will have been finanised, with plans in place for redevelopment of main stand, which hasn't been much of a secret.
Can't really question much about whats happening on pitch as we playing some top stuff, good young side. It's pretty clear there is money there from somewhere as decent players follow cash, thats the only reason we have been able to sign the squad we have now. |
that all sounds perfectly fine then, nothing to worry about... | |
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| The Bury AGM on 13:27 - Nov 5 with 2080 views | ceme_ender |
| The Bury AGM on 13:24 - Nov 5 by judd |
£250k saved in abolishing appearance money.
However, your accounts that will be discussed at the next general meeting in January will be at least a year out of date and will in no way demonstrate the reality of your cash position. |
The reality on burys cash position can't be that bad, playings wouldn't have been queuing up to sign in summer and we wouldn't have been able to afford the players we signed.
I think the account will be to april 2014 so won't be that far out. | | | |
| The Bury AGM on 13:29 - Nov 5 with 2075 views | Daley_Lama |
From that I take it that the answer is "no"
The question should have been asked as follows.
How much did we borrow, can you show independent evidence that the full amount went into the Bury FC bank account, if not, why shouldn't I think that it is a scam and you are bleeding money out of the club to a company that appeared from nowhere and therefore persons unknown.
If you asked that however, you would probably be taken out to the car park and asked which bit of it you would like to buy (aka get introduced to) |  |
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| The Bury AGM on 13:33 - Nov 5 with 2050 views | judd |
| The Bury AGM on 13:27 - Nov 5 by ceme_ender |
The reality on burys cash position can't be that bad, playings wouldn't have been queuing up to sign in summer and we wouldn't have been able to afford the players we signed.
I think the account will be to april 2014 so won't be that far out. |
The cash has been boosted by loans. Loans that you are using to repay the, erm, loans plus interest.
Players were "queuing" up to sign for clubs all over the country, not just at bury. | |
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| The Bury AGM on 13:40 - Nov 5 with 2032 views | ColDale |
| The Bury AGM on 13:33 - Nov 5 by judd |
The cash has been boosted by loans. Loans that you are using to repay the, erm, loans plus interest.
Players were "queuing" up to sign for clubs all over the country, not just at bury. |
neither Chesterfield nor Notts County struggled to sign players.
Nowt wrong with money from a 3rd party, but the problem with any investment is the that investment expects a return - hence the ground being used as collateral. There's an argument that can justify investing in a Championship club given the returns the Premier League brings, but a step up to League One only brings with it extra financial woe rather than it being a financial promised land. | | | |
| The Bury AGM on 13:42 - Nov 5 with 2023 views | dingdangblue |
| The Bury AGM on 13:24 - Nov 5 by judd |
£250k saved in abolishing appearance money.
However, your accounts that will be discussed at the next general meeting in January will be at least a year out of date and will in no way demonstrate the reality of your cash position. |
250 k saved by not paying appearance money? Did they even have 250k spare in the past couple of seasons to pay for appearance money? I've saved 250k this year by not buying a Lamborghini. [Post edited 5 Nov 2014 13:46]
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| The Bury AGM on 13:42 - Nov 5 with 2023 views | BigDaveMyCock |
| The Bury AGM on 13:27 - Nov 5 by ceme_ender |
The reality on burys cash position can't be that bad, playings wouldn't have been queuing up to sign in summer and we wouldn't have been able to afford the players we signed.
I think the account will be to april 2014 so won't be that far out. |
What is the matter with you people!! The club is being leveraged to the hilt. Your football club is being used as a vehicle for security to borrrow money....for whom we don't know and they're trying to make it difficult for you to find out.
For the love of God will you stop chasing the bones they throw. Shareholders dividends my ass. | |
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| The Bury AGM on 14:16 - Nov 5 with 1937 views | judd |
| The Bury AGM on 13:42 - Nov 5 by dingdangblue |
250 k saved by not paying appearance money? Did they even have 250k spare in the past couple of seasons to pay for appearance money? I've saved 250k this year by not buying a Lamborghini. [Post edited 5 Nov 2014 13:46]
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To be fair, you didn't spend on a Lamborghini last season, whereas bury probably paid appearance money.
But a good point about the cash not being there in the first place, overdraft/payday loans/cash generator/butty van corporate partnering funding or not. | |
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| The Bury AGM on 14:17 - Nov 5 with 1930 views | aleanddale |
| The Bury AGM on 13:42 - Nov 5 by BigDaveMyCock |
What is the matter with you people!! The club is being leveraged to the hilt. Your football club is being used as a vehicle for security to borrrow money....for whom we don't know and they're trying to make it difficult for you to find out.
For the love of God will you stop chasing the bones they throw. Shareholders dividends my ass. |
To be fair they have got the JD Money!.
Its scary how many are being taken in and lapping it up..
i am a little bored of them now so am dipping out of this saga.
I recon the proof of the pudding will be the start of the season August 2018.
Thats when it will all look quite rosey or Gigg will be Aldi and FC bury will be lining up at Stainton park!!. | | | |
| The Bury AGM on 14:22 - Nov 5 with 1919 views | TVOS1907 |
| The Bury AGM on 13:27 - Nov 5 by ceme_ender |
The reality on burys cash position can't be that bad, playings wouldn't have been queuing up to sign in summer and we wouldn't have been able to afford the players we signed.
I think the account will be to april 2014 so won't be that far out. |
Why do you think 'playings' were queuing up to sign in the summer?
To look at the geet big scoreboard? |  |
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| The Bury AGM on 14:33 - Nov 5 with 1891 views | 442Dale |
http://www.gigglane.com/showthread.php/24076-Forever-Bury/page14
From there: " Yesterday, 4 members of the FB board (not 2 as incorrectly stated earlier), met with SD and GT. In short, as a result of those discussions which included
the plans and strategies put in place to make BFC self sustainable
plans for the ground improvements
plans for the growth of the playing staff from youth to 1st team
plans to give FB a place on the Board
regular meetings of the BFC directors and the FB board
Fans forums
the rationale why the BFC board put forward these special resolutions"
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So then we move onto:
http://www.gigglane.com/showthread.php/22244-FOREVER-BURY-SUPPORTERS-TRUST-OUR-A
From there:
"Our Features
Democratic
Not for Profit
Owned and run by supporters
Affordable to join
Representative and actively inclusive
Our Strengths
Run for the benefit of the community
Fully incorporated, limited liability
Inclusive
Accountable, transparent and open
Building bridges between club and community
Our Aims
To improve the relationship between club and fans
To strive to improve the operation of the club
Owning Shares collectively to actively influence the direction of the club
To maintain a position for an elected member onto the club’s Board
To work actively to bring the community and club together"
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They are "Accountable, transparent and open" so if there are any FB member reading this have you asked for FULL details of the discussions between FB and the club about their plans? If not, do so and point out they "strive continually to meet their aims". | |
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