| Anton Ferdinand Documentary 20:40 - Sep 10 with 23878 views | Noelmc |
This could be interesting.
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| Anton Ferdinand Documentary on 21:59 - Nov 30 with 2882 views | Paddyhoops |
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| Anton Ferdinand Documentary on 22:00 - Nov 30 with 2875 views | BlackCrowe |
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| Anton Ferdinand Documentary on 22:00 - Nov 30 with 2870 views | traininvain |
| Anton Ferdinand Documentary on 21:49 - Nov 30 by RANGERS4EVER |
This is a really tough watch. How John Terry is even allowed to be standing on the touchline right now is beyond me. |
Agreed. Fair play to Anton Ferdinand for having the courage to speak up.
Terry’s a liar and a coward. |  | | |
| Anton Ferdinand Documentary on 22:03 - Nov 30 with 2810 views | DWQPR |
There must be a way as supporters, and not just us as QPR supporters show a United front against this sub-human filthbag and drum him out of football. About time his career is finished as was Anton’s. Hopefully to start with, the rumours that he would be Derby’s new manager will come to an end. | |
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| Anton Ferdinand Documentary on 22:06 - Nov 30 with 2745 views | ngbqpr |
Just when you thought you couldn't hate him any more... |  |
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| Anton Ferdinand Documentary on 22:08 - Nov 30 with 2716 views | paulparker |
If a fan had said what Terry had said in a ground then we would be banned for life & probably let go from our jobs
Terry got a 4 game ban ! How does that work ? being the England captain is like the equivalent of a queens pardon it seems
The whole Terry family are scum bags , I think Ferdinand has issues speaking out imo and has difficulty in articulating his point hence the fa giving him a hard time during the interviews which didn’t help him |  |
| And Bowles is onside, Swinburne has come rushing out of his goal , what can Bowles do here , onto the left foot no, on to the right foot
That’s there that’s two, and that’s Bowles
Brian Moore
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| Anton Ferdinand Documentary on 22:11 - Nov 30 with 2671 views | flynnbo |
Well done, Anton. Took a lot of guts to do that. |  | | |
| Anton Ferdinand Documentary on 22:11 - Nov 30 with 2664 views | Rog |
The FA clearly should have done better, then and now, but the fact that we have no football authority that is fit for purpose doesn't excuse the fact that Terry should have had a much more severe punishment. Those that defended him at the time, his mates in the press and his scummy team-mates, should be very ashamed too. [Post edited 30 Nov 2020 22:12]
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| Anton Ferdinand Documentary on 22:12 - Nov 30 with 2649 views | tonyQPR |
Very powerful Very moving ...............cuunnttyyterry we really do know what you are. | | | |
| Anton Ferdinand Documentary on 22:13 - Nov 30 with 2636 views | Harbour |
Well done Anton for speaking out. Terry should be kicked out of the game. | | | |
| Anton Ferdinand Documentary on 22:14 - Nov 30 with 2619 views | Antti_Heinola |
A great documentary. Very eye opening, particularly on the human level of what Anton went through. Did we as fans do enough to support Anton? It was a while ago now, and I know we were all on his side. But while I felt the injustice of what happened, felt anger about how Terry was defended and the abuse Anton took, I definitely never appreciated what he went through, and did not empathise with the amount of pressure on him. It is nothing short of a disgrace that he is now doing this documentary feeling regret, even feeling guilt, that he did not 'speak out' or do enough at the time. HE WAS THE VICTIM. And yet, who has suffered between him and Terry over the years, really? It's him. He did nothing wrong, in fact he acted with restraint and dignity and maybe he was badly advised about speaking out, but that is irrelevant - no way should he be left feeling how he feels - upset and, worse, some kind of guilt.
As I say, really eye opening. I thought he came across really well, and very genuinely. But I'm upset at how the incident left Anton, and the level of outright racist abuse he received and no doubt continues to receive. I can't look at Twitter tonight and I hope he doesn't, because I bet whle there is tons of support, there will be some horrific stuff in there too. |  |
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| Anton Ferdinand Documentary on 22:16 - Nov 30 with 2585 views | BrianMcCarthy |
Utmost respect to Ferdinand for speaking out and for doing so in an articulate, intelligent and mature manner. I hope his inspiration will help others.
Terry comfirmed what we always knew about him. Beneath contempt.
Sadly, there seems little evidence that either the situation has changed or that the authorities have. |  |
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| Anton Ferdinand Documentary on 22:17 - Nov 30 with 2566 views | bosh67 |
| Anton Ferdinand Documentary on 22:03 - Nov 30 by DWQPR |
There must be a way as supporters, and not just us as QPR supporters show a United front against this sub-human filthbag and drum him out of football. About time his career is finished as was Anton’s. Hopefully to start with, the rumours that he would be Derby’s new manager will come to an end. |
I think this program may have just about finished Terry's career to be honest.
Anton is a very nice guy and his game definitely suffered as a result. I remember my dad saying some time later, he's not able to concentrate anymore, so interesting to hear Neil say that.
The strange thing for me is that Anton said some things to Terry which he regretted and Terry did what he did and should have come clean. But the weird thing is that Rio and Terry were quite close. They played golf together. Members of the same club. You do wonder why the two families didn't get together after the game and straighten this out between them. Terry would still have been done by the FA but perhaps the rest wouldn't have happened and Anton may have been able to get on with his football and his life.
That said it is very disappointing that Terry didn't have the balls to respond to Anton's email. Perhaps he knew that this program was being made but it would have changed his landscape had he done so in the right way. It could have drawn a line under it.
I liked Anton at QPR. He worked very hard and it was a shame he didn't get a lot more seasons with us. I also know it didn't work out with Rio in the way he or we wanted it to but I am quite pleased that the brothers did play for us. They have quite a tie to the club and I'm glad we helped in making this program.
Overall I think Anton has been brave to wear his heart and emotions on his sleeve. Hopefully it highlights how unacceptable racism is. Not just in sport but in any realm of life. [Post edited 30 Nov 2020 22:18]
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| Anton Ferdinand Documentary on 22:22 - Nov 30 with 2485 views | paulparker |
Also the woman at the fa interviewing Terry seemed star struck and was actually giving his defence for him | |
| And Bowles is onside, Swinburne has come rushing out of his goal , what can Bowles do here , onto the left foot no, on to the right foot
That’s there that’s two, and that’s Bowles
Brian Moore
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| Anton Ferdinand Documentary on 22:24 - Nov 30 with 2466 views | flynnbo |
| Anton Ferdinand Documentary on 22:22 - Nov 30 by paulparker |
Also the woman at the fa interviewing Terry seemed star struck and was actually giving his defence for him |
Agree and she was also slating the ref, Sir Chris Foy! | | | |
| Anton Ferdinand Documentary on 22:24 - Nov 30 with 2463 views | bosh67 |
| Anton Ferdinand Documentary on 22:22 - Nov 30 by paulparker |
Also the woman at the fa interviewing Terry seemed star struck and was actually giving his defence for him |
Yes that really was appalling. | |
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| Anton Ferdinand Documentary on 22:26 - Nov 30 with 2438 views | Wegerles_Stairs |
| Anton Ferdinand Documentary on 07:54 - Nov 29 by traininvain |
I’d never fully considered the impact of the incident on Anton Ferdinand’s career/life. Like he says his form dipped after the Chelsea game and within six months he had played his last game in the Premiership.
I don’t really understand how Terry’s still employed in top flight football given everything that happened with Ferdinand and in the context of this era with players taking a knee before every game to promote BLM.
Maybe time for those in the media to start asking this question... |
For precisely the same reason Sky slagged us off for not taking a knee despite having possibly the most diverse leadership team in football, etc. Captain Leader Bellend wearing a Black Lives Matter top is a classic example of an empty signifier. | | | |
| Anton Ferdinand Documentary on 22:36 - Nov 30 with 2348 views | BrianMcCarthy |
| Anton Ferdinand Documentary on 22:26 - Nov 30 by Wegerles_Stairs |
For precisely the same reason Sky slagged us off for not taking a knee despite having possibly the most diverse leadership team in football, etc. Captain Leader Bellend wearing a Black Lives Matter top is a classic example of an empty signifier. |
Well, just to be clear - the club did take the knee for a long time, supported the gesture and said that they considered it to be very powerful. They just felt that it had ran its course. So it wasn't an empty signifier for us but most likely was for Terry, as you say. | |
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| Anton Ferdinand Documentary on 22:37 - Nov 30 with 2335 views | ted_hendrix |
I met AF at half time at WHL the first away game back in the Prem after the play off final, look it's a bit boring I know but what a smashing bloke he was to talk too and I genuinely mean that.
After watching that programme tonight all I can say Is I hope he finds peace within himself and soon, I found that difficult to watch. |  |
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| Anton Ferdinand Documentary on 22:40 - Nov 30 with 2315 views | BrianMcCarthy |
| Anton Ferdinand Documentary on 22:37 - Nov 30 by ted_hendrix |
I met AF at half time at WHL the first away game back in the Prem after the play off final, look it's a bit boring I know but what a smashing bloke he was to talk too and I genuinely mean that.
After watching that programme tonight all I can say Is I hope he finds peace within himself and soon, I found that difficult to watch. |
Good to hear that, Ted - he really came across very well. Nice wish from you, too. I second that. | |
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| Anton Ferdinand Documentary on 22:47 - Nov 30 with 2251 views | davman |
| Anton Ferdinand Documentary on 22:22 - Nov 30 by paulparker |
Also the woman at the fa interviewing Terry seemed star struck and was actually giving his defence for him |
That REALLY stood out for me. Unprofessional, non partial, sycophantic and negligent. The FA and football authorities all over.
How the hell did he get off in court; the evidence appears unequivocal and his defence was utterly unbelievable on every level?
Utter disgrace and the fact that he still makes a living out of football. |  |
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| Anton Ferdinand Documentary on 22:53 - Nov 30 with 2211 views | DejR_vu |
I don't think anyone really comes out of that with a huge amount of credit:
- The legal system for facilitating a, frankly, embarrassing verdict;
- The football authorities for making a statement by stripping Terry of the England captaincy but not going far enough to really tackle the issue head on;
- Terry, obviously;
- And, really, the Ferdinands for not making a stand at the time. I think Anton deserves some credit for speaking up now but, arguably, it's not going to have anywhere near the same impact now as it could have done then. He's a retired journeyman footballer, Terry's a retired England Captain. It may well be forgotten in a few days time. Nine years ago, he was the England captain, Ferdinand was a Premier League defender and brother of the other England centre back playing for one of the biggest clubs in the world. That said, I appreciate it could have made life very difficult for them both, that they both had a lot to lose, and no one should be expected to be a martyr. On the other hand, maybe it's come at the right time, given everything else that has happened this year to shine a light on the issue. | |
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| Anton Ferdinand Documentary on 23:01 - Nov 30 with 2165 views | Noelmc |
Absorbing documentary which clearly showed who the real victim was in this high profile incident. All credit to Anton for being so open and it appears to have helped him unburden some of the issues he has struggled with, which is great. He came across very well and I’m sure his mum would have been very proud of him speaking out now.
No surprise that the FA & the RM came out of it looking very bad. Interesting that the latter claimed he tried to contact Anton around the time of the incident, obviously to try and make it go away, but has no interest in re-visiting it now. Scumbag. | | | |
| Anton Ferdinand Documentary on 23:06 - Nov 30 with 2140 views | daveB |
nothing will come of it, Teflon Terry will continue to work in football It will be brushed under the carpet like so many other incidents.
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| Anton Ferdinand Documentary on 23:37 - Nov 30 with 2034 views | EalingHoop81 |
Thought it was very moving and showed just how much Anton had been affected by the whole issue and really brought to light the fact that he wasn’t treated as the victim. Took real courage to do it and looking back don’t think we gave him enough credit at all for what he was going through as his form dipped.
A lot of criticism on here for the FA which in part I get but to be clear, they went ahead with their own investigation and found on the balance of probabilities that Terry was GUILTY, fined him, stripped him of the captaincy of the National Team etc. As much as one can point the finger at the interview with Terry, of which we heard about 60 seconds, they extracted the information which led to the guilty verdict. The issue for me is not the interview with Terry which was respectful and did not sound as challenging as it could have but rather the interview with Anton. That sounded from what was said that it was more probing and left Anton and Warnock thinking that he was being charged rather than being the victim. That was very wrong.
On the court case there has always been a misconception. The burden of proof was higher in the court of law which meant that as the magistrate felt there was doubt, the not guilty verdict followed on the premise of innocent until proven guilty and he was not proven guilty. Had the burden of proof been the ‘balance of probabilities’ it would likely have been a different outcome. | | | |
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