| Warren farm kaput 20:15 - Sep 8 with 14722 views | Hayesender |
I don't do itk stuff, but I can tell yous all 99.9% the plug has been well and truly pulled on this one |  |
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| Warren farm kaput on 15:40 - Sep 9 with 3787 views | Hunterhoop |
| Warren farm kaput on 15:29 - Sep 9 by PinnerPaul |
1) It was £100M further up this thread, I know we're losing money, but £100M in a morning is some going even for Tony et al!
2) I don't lie awake at night thinking about it ,no, back to the wider world - lots of successful comopanies are "in debt" it depends on who its owed to. Our ABC loan was a a lot smaller but a much bigger problem as not "internal"
3) Never have been and never will be on twitter, so haven't a clue what you are on about there, don't even know what a"re tweet "is when its at home! |
Agree about 2), Pinner, but it's really well over £200m now.
It was c. £180m after they'd written off £60m odd as a "gift". But that was for the accounts up to 2 years ago. Last year, we are bound to have continued our losses, not least because our wage bill was greater than our revenue for the previous year and we didn't get rid of much cost from 2 years ago to last season.
So £200m is a reasonable, and probably generous. And, unless it is personal wealth (highly doubt), then we don't know who it's owed to. But agree with Antti, I can't see the point for them in putting us in admin to recoup as much as possible this season (or any where we're competing for promotion from the championship). |  | | |
| Warren farm kaput on 16:25 - Sep 9 with 3695 views | Pommyhoop |
| Warren farm kaput on 08:34 - Sep 9 by stansleftfoot |
Cranford Community College and indoor football facilities.....to my mind the management and philosophy of the Club will provide a structure with which the Club can move forward.
Tony Fernandez and Ruben face huge problems with their core businesses, as QPR continues to change so might the shareholders, that's business.
A sensible businessman always attempts to build in cost and loss negating exit routes.
There are many more positives to QPR both on the pitch, and at the management level.
Fernandez and Ruben along with Amit have put these in place, its not surprising to see ITK and told you so's blurting out stuff.
Get given tickets to use Air Asia, whilst our owner writes of £60 million, how could they not fail to learn their lessons! |
Mrs Pommyhoop went to Cranford School ( Community College).
Maria Whittaker was in her class .They were good mates..
Sorry I digress.
Carry on... |  |
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| Warren farm kaput on 17:46 - Sep 9 with 3536 views | Antti_Heinola |
| Warren farm kaput on 15:40 - Sep 9 by Hunterhoop |
Agree about 2), Pinner, but it's really well over £200m now.
It was c. £180m after they'd written off £60m odd as a "gift". But that was for the accounts up to 2 years ago. Last year, we are bound to have continued our losses, not least because our wage bill was greater than our revenue for the previous year and we didn't get rid of much cost from 2 years ago to last season.
So £200m is a reasonable, and probably generous. And, unless it is personal wealth (highly doubt), then we don't know who it's owed to. But agree with Antti, I can't see the point for them in putting us in admin to recoup as much as possible this season (or any where we're competing for promotion from the championship). |
I thought £180m was a rough guess by everyone prior to the £60m written off?
hard to keep track. |  |
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| Warren farm kaput on 21:48 - Sep 9 with 3329 views | DylanP |
| Warren farm kaput on 15:29 - Sep 9 by PinnerPaul |
1) It was £100M further up this thread, I know we're losing money, but £100M in a morning is some going even for Tony et al!
2) I don't lie awake at night thinking about it ,no, back to the wider world - lots of successful comopanies are "in debt" it depends on who its owed to. Our ABC loan was a a lot smaller but a much bigger problem as not "internal"
3) Never have been and never will be on twitter, so haven't a clue what you are on about there, don't even know what a"re tweet "is when its at home! |
PP -Twitter is a social media website that allows people to post short, pithy messages. To re-tweet means to re-post something that someone else posted.
There, sorted. Now you know, You can thank me later.
Also, I think I was the one who said the debt was 100 million. I was being general -- not quoting a specific number. I am definitely not ITK and remembering that 60 million was recently forgiven, didn't want to overstate it. After all, once you get past 100 million, it is all the same, innit? [Post edited 11 Sep 2015 14:18]
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| Warren farm kaput on 11:48 - Sep 10 with 3087 views | PinnerPaul |
| Warren farm kaput on 21:48 - Sep 9 by DylanP |
PP -Twitter is a social media website that allows people to post short, pithy messages. To re-tweet means to re-post something that someone else posted.
There, sorted. Now you know, You can thank me later.
Also, I think I was the one who said the debt was 100 million. I was being general -- not quoting a specific number. I am definitely not ITK and remembering that 60 million was recently forgiven, didn't want to overstate it. After all, once you get past 100 million, it is all the same, innit? [Post edited 11 Sep 2015 14:18]
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Thanks Dylan
I get to read enough "shorty , pithy messages" on here, so don't think I will be tempted to join twitter! 
Anyway another "crisis" over for the time being! |  | | |
| Warren farm kaput on 12:52 - Sep 10 with 3015 views | Hunterhoop |
| Warren farm kaput on 17:46 - Sep 9 by Antti_Heinola |
I thought £180m was a rough guess by everyone prior to the £60m written off?
hard to keep track. |
It is! You're making me doubt myself now, Antti and I don't have time to go back and check....but I was pretty sure it was around £180m after we'd "only" lost £9m in the year (13-14), because they'd written off the £60m as a gift. Add in another year (albeit in the Prem with the TV revenue) and I'd guess (we'll see in April) that our losses were at least £20m, and thus we are, at the end of the last season, over £200m in debt. This debt will obviously grow in the next 12 months too because there's more chance of Disco bedding Mica Paris than us being run at a profit this season given how small our revenue will be. | | | |
| Warren farm kaput on 13:03 - Sep 10 with 3005 views | Antti_Heinola |
| Warren farm kaput on 12:52 - Sep 10 by Hunterhoop |
It is! You're making me doubt myself now, Antti and I don't have time to go back and check....but I was pretty sure it was around £180m after we'd "only" lost £9m in the year (13-14), because they'd written off the £60m as a gift. Add in another year (albeit in the Prem with the TV revenue) and I'd guess (we'll see in April) that our losses were at least £20m, and thus we are, at the end of the last season, over £200m in debt. This debt will obviously grow in the next 12 months too because there's more chance of Disco bedding Mica Paris than us being run at a profit this season given how small our revenue will be. |
indeed, but at least the wage bill has been significantly slashed. | |
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| Warren farm kaput on 13:08 - Sep 10 with 2995 views | TheBlob |
| Warren farm kaput on 21:48 - Sep 9 by DylanP |
PP -Twitter is a social media website that allows people to post short, pithy messages. To re-tweet means to re-post something that someone else posted.
There, sorted. Now you know, You can thank me later.
Also, I think I was the one who said the debt was 100 million. I was being general -- not quoting a specific number. I am definitely not ITK and remembering that 60 million was recently forgiven, didn't want to overstate it. After all, once you get past 100 million, it is all the same, innit? [Post edited 11 Sep 2015 14:18]
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Thank you George Osborne. |  |
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| Warren farm kaput on 13:31 - Sep 10 with 2956 views | isawqpratwcity |
So, back to the OP.
Any news? |  |
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| Warren farm kaput on 20:21 - Sep 10 with 2794 views | johncharles |
Hayesender, was your source the Save Warren Farm campaign. |  |
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| Warren farm kaput on 20:29 - Sep 10 with 2780 views | Hayesender |
| Warren farm kaput on 20:21 - Sep 10 by johncharles |
Hayesender, was your source the Save Warren Farm campaign. |
No mate. I can't name the person it came from for obvious reasons, but it came from someone who works full time at the club on the playing side.
I have no sauce or nor am I privy to inside information. This just came about by chance | |
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| Warren farm kaput on 14:21 - Sep 11 with 2630 views | DylanP |
| Warren farm kaput on 20:29 - Sep 10 by Hayesender |
No mate. I can't name the person it came from for obvious reasons, but it came from someone who works full time at the club on the playing side.
I have no sauce or nor am I privy to inside information. This just came about by chance |
So, basically you are saying that Mackie was the snitch?
Mackie out! | |
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| Warren farm kaput on 14:42 - Sep 11 with 2605 views | FredManRave |
| Warren farm kaput on 14:21 - Sep 11 by DylanP |
So, basically you are saying that Mackie was the snitch?
Mackie out! |
Stop It. |  |
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| Warren farm kaput on 22:07 - Sep 11 with 2468 views | LythamR |
Lee Hoos was asked last night about Warren Farm and stated that rumour was untrue and plans were progressing on Warren Farm. Note on qpr1st.com |  | | |
| Warren farm kaput on 22:13 - Sep 11 with 2456 views | ThGrimRanger |
| Warren farm kaput on 20:29 - Sep 10 by Hayesender |
No mate. I can't name the person it came from for obvious reasons, but it came from someone who works full time at the club on the playing side.
I have no sauce or nor am I privy to inside information. This just came about by chance |
it was Diakite wasn't it |  |
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| Warren farm kaput on 23:11 - Sep 11 with 2408 views | PlanetHonneywood |
| Warren farm kaput on 22:13 - Sep 11 by ThGrimRanger |
it was Diakite wasn't it |
No, it was Peter Odemwinghie. [Post edited 11 Sep 2015 23:13]
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| Warren farm kaput on 23:53 - Sep 11 with 2385 views | PunteR |
| Warren farm kaput on 23:11 - Sep 11 by PlanetHonneywood |
No, it was Peter Odemwinghie. [Post edited 11 Sep 2015 23:13]
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in a dinghy.. |  |
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| Warren farm kaput on 07:40 - Sep 12 with 2292 views | JonDoeman |
| Warren farm kaput on 22:07 - Sep 11 by LythamR |
Lee Hoos was asked last night about Warren Farm and stated that rumour was untrue and plans were progressing on Warren Farm. Note on qpr1st.com |
That's good news, I would hate for QPR to back down on this now, it needs to happen. |  |
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| Warren farm kaput on 08:40 - Sep 17 with 2111 views | WokingR |
In light of the fantastic news announced on this subject yesterday this needs bringing back to the top.
Not necessarily to ridicule Hayesender as he was brave enough to stick his neck out and pass on the news but for every single one of you who jumped on what was a single source story and predicted doom, gloom and the end of the world. |  | | |
| Warren farm kaput on 11:29 - Sep 17 with 1976 views | californiahoop |
Now we will hear, " let's wait until a spade is in the ground crap" very sad people! TF delivered everything he promised, people just took the gifts and misused them. | | | |
| Warren farm kaput on 11:31 - Sep 17 with 1968 views | BazzaInTheLoft |
| Warren farm kaput on 23:53 - Sep 11 by PunteR |
in a dinghy.. |
being clingy |  | | |
| Warren farm kaput on 11:41 - Sep 17 with 1934 views | Northernr |
| Warren farm kaput on 11:29 - Sep 17 by californiahoop |
Now we will hear, " let's wait until a spade is in the ground crap" very sad people! TF delivered everything he promised, people just took the gifts and misused them. |
What exactly has he delivered? We're exactly the same club with the same stadium, same poor training ground and same poor youth set up as when he arrived - except now we're a division lower. We've spent hundreds of millions of pounds to achieve that. |  | | |
| Warren farm kaput on 11:43 - Sep 17 with 1928 views | Hayesender |
| Warren farm kaput on 08:40 - Sep 17 by WokingR |
In light of the fantastic news announced on this subject yesterday this needs bringing back to the top.
Not necessarily to ridicule Hayesender as he was brave enough to stick his neck out and pass on the news but for every single one of you who jumped on what was a single source story and predicted doom, gloom and the end of the world. |
Not to worry, I'm big and ugly enough to take any ridicule coming my way.
Having said that, I'm not gonna apologise for sharing what I genuinely heard on here with you lot.
Like the rest of you I'd love it if Warren farm gets going | |
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| Warren farm kaput on 11:46 - Sep 17 with 1915 views | BazzaInTheLoft |
| Warren farm kaput on 11:41 - Sep 17 by Northernr |
What exactly has he delivered? We're exactly the same club with the same stadium, same poor training ground and same poor youth set up as when he arrived - except now we're a division lower. We've spent hundreds of millions of pounds to achieve that. |
Ingrate.
Forgot about that season ticket reduction quick enough didn't you? They may well be in the form of club shop vouchers but that's beside the point.
I brought a lovely tea towel set. Very tasteful.
ALL HAIL THE TONE! | | | |
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