| Barton and Yossi in twitter spat on 16:48 - Jul 25 with 8214 views | SonofNorfolt |
Joey is right. |  | |  |
| Barton and Yossi in twitter spat on 17:23 - Jul 25 with 8115 views | THEBUSH |
Wouldn't expect Benayoun to say anything else, although don't agree with him. |  | | |
| Barton and Yossi in twitter spat on 18:03 - Jul 25 with 8025 views | timcocking |
Aren't both sides doing the same thing? |  | | |
| Barton and Yossi in twitter spat on 18:15 - Jul 25 with 7980 views | THEBUSH |
| Barton and Yossi in twitter spat on 18:03 - Jul 25 by timcocking |
Aren't both sides doing the same thing? |
Not really, unless the Palestinians have settled 300,000 illegal settlers in Israel !! | | | |
| Barton and Yossi in twitter spat on 18:19 - Jul 25 with 7965 views | nadera78 |
| Barton and Yossi in twitter spat on 18:03 - Jul 25 by timcocking |
Aren't both sides doing the same thing? |
No. The vast majority of Hamas' rockets get blown out of the sky by the IDF. A handful land, mostly in scrubland, but an occasional one hits a target.
The IDF on the other hand have killed 800 people already in the past few weeks - including women and children seeking refuge in a UN-run school. And that's before we even start on the illegal settlements on Palestinian land, and the recent admission by Netanyahu that IDF forces will never leave Palestinian territory. |  | | |
| Barton and Yossi in twitter spat on 18:22 - Jul 25 with 7956 views | nadera78 |
| Barton and Yossi in twitter spat on 18:15 - Jul 25 by THEBUSH |
Not really, unless the Palestinians have settled 300,000 illegal settlers in Israel !! |
Take a look at a map and see the pitiful patches of land the international community have designated as Palestinian. Then see that the IDF have told Palestinians to stay out of a 3km exclusion zone inside Gaza. And then realise that that 3km is approximately half the total width of Gaza. | | | |
| Barton and Yossi in twitter spat on 18:32 - Jul 25 with 7932 views | kropotkin41 |
Here are some maps which illustrate what has happened. Now, the British Mandate of Palestine was not intended to hand over the territory to some new entity like the State of Israel, but to in the fullness of time........... that is to say when it suited the colonial power........ to give the Palestinians (which by the way included Palestinian Jews) independence. In part because British power was pretty much a broken reed from 1940 onwards, but especially in the late 1940s and due to a brutal Jewish terrorist campaign, what came about was somewhat different:
http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/mapstellstory.html |  |
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| Barton and Yossi in twitter spat on 18:34 - Jul 25 with 7922 views | kropotkin41 |
Oh, and for what it's worth I wouldn't want another Israeli to play for QPR until there is justice for Palestine which in my opinion would mean the Right of Return and the dismantling of the Israeli apartheid apparatus entirely.......... one country for Jews and Arabs in Palestine/Israel.
No Justice, No Peace. | |
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| Barton and Yossi in twitter spat on 18:38 - Jul 25 with 7891 views | hoopstilidie |
Barton is 100% right, as is every other right thinking sane person in the World. |  |
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| Barton and Yossi in twitter spat on 18:43 - Jul 25 with 7875 views | THEBUSH |
| Barton and Yossi in twitter spat on 18:22 - Jul 25 by nadera78 |
Take a look at a map and see the pitiful patches of land the international community have designated as Palestinian. Then see that the IDF have told Palestinians to stay out of a 3km exclusion zone inside Gaza. And then realise that that 3km is approximately half the total width of Gaza. |
I agree, the Palestinians haven't really settled 300,000 in Israel, it's the other way around. | | | |
| Barton and Yossi in twitter spat on 18:48 - Jul 25 with 7855 views | ElHoop |
The Israelis are making themselves look stupid and more importantly they are making the Americans look even more stupid. Most of Europe is skint, Russia is a loose cannon. The world is in a mess. Nobody has any credibility. It's actually quite a good time to be British and believe it or not a big chunk of jocks actually want to leave! |  | | |
| Barton and Yossi in twitter spat on 18:50 - Jul 25 with 7843 views | Watford_Ranger |
The respective death tolls aren't relevant- one side is using their own as human shields while the other has arguably the most advanced defences in the world due to being next to a place intent on blowing it off the map with poor quality rockets daily.
I'm not pretending Israel never does wrong but the level of ignorance from genuinely intelligent people is surprising. | | | |
| Barton and Yossi in twitter spat on 18:52 - Jul 25 with 7833 views | Watford_Ranger |
Also to say the club shouldn't sign Israelis is laughable. Syrians are responsible for the deaths of thousands more than Israelis currently. Surprisingly less uproar about that from media / Brits in general. | | | |
| Barton and Yossi in twitter spat on 18:58 - Jul 25 with 7806 views | kropotkin41 |
| Barton and Yossi in twitter spat on 18:52 - Jul 25 by Watford_Ranger |
Also to say the club shouldn't sign Israelis is laughable. Syrians are responsible for the deaths of thousands more than Israelis currently. Surprisingly less uproar about that from media / Brits in general. |
I'm not laughing. Syria has been plunged into a war by proxy largely set off by the US policy of trying to dominate energy supplies in the Middle East and beyond. Israel is a State in contravention of more than 60 UN resolutions currently involved in a murderous campaign against what is in effect a concentration camp. You quite simply have no idea and appear unwilling to educate yourself. | |
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| Barton and Yossi in twitter spat on 19:00 - Jul 25 with 7801 views | GloryHunter |
Joey and his twitterings have gone right up in my estimation as a result of this.
As for Yossi saying that anyone who disagrees with the Israeli propaganda line must be stupid - well, says it all, really. |  | | |
| Barton and Yossi in twitter spat on 19:44 - Jul 25 with 7682 views | Pommyhoop |
| Barton and Yossi in twitter spat on 19:00 - Jul 25 by GloryHunter |
Joey and his twitterings have gone right up in my estimation as a result of this.
As for Yossi saying that anyone who disagrees with the Israeli propaganda line must be stupid - well, says it all, really. |
Joey is right but Yossi has a right to stand up for his people and beliefs..
Ok time machine.. Joey tweeting Macca saying 'get out of Ireland' Stop the marches' ''Political status for prisoners'' etc . I dont know how political Macca was but I recon he'd be in his rights to say 'F'ck off Joey mind your own like'. |  |
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| Barton and Yossi in twitter spat on 19:55 - Jul 25 with 7649 views | BAWHoops |
I think until Joey Barton and his family have a rocket aimed at them like Yossi and his family have he shouldn't respond.
I don't understand the obsession everyone has with one side being right and one side being wrong?
It's f.ucking terrible and the images of the dead make me sick.
I'm Jewish, I'm off to Israel tomorrow to visit family. However I'm not blind to the fact you can't bomb a UN school and you can't build settlements. I'm also not blind to the fact you can't fire a rocket at civilian population and build tunnels to sneak into a country and murder its civilians in the dead of night.
We should all be praying for peace and hoping that one day Israel and Palestine can exist side by side, just as Israel and their former enemies Egypt and Jordan do.
Both states have a right to exist |  |
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| Barton and Yossi in twitter spat on 20:02 - Jul 25 with 7615 views | Watford_Ranger |
| Barton and Yossi in twitter spat on 18:58 - Jul 25 by kropotkin41 |
I'm not laughing. Syria has been plunged into a war by proxy largely set off by the US policy of trying to dominate energy supplies in the Middle East and beyond. Israel is a State in contravention of more than 60 UN resolutions currently involved in a murderous campaign against what is in effect a concentration camp. You quite simply have no idea and appear unwilling to educate yourself. |
You can't really blame the US for the atrocities in Syria, can you?
As for Israel, what do you suggest they do in their situation? They've tried to cooperate with ceasefires but on the other side have a terrorist organisation willing to sacrifice its own people in a bid to destroy them with no interest in any ceasefire or peace despite being the clearly weaker force. Should they just accept the rockets?
As said, Israel is not perfect by any stretch but if it were the UK in their situation I'd want to be defended rather than risk however many more rockets. | | | |
| Barton and Yossi in twitter spat on 20:26 - Jul 25 with 7552 views | THEBUSH |
| Barton and Yossi in twitter spat on 18:50 - Jul 25 by Watford_Ranger |
The respective death tolls aren't relevant- one side is using their own as human shields while the other has arguably the most advanced defences in the world due to being next to a place intent on blowing it off the map with poor quality rockets daily.
I'm not pretending Israel never does wrong but the level of ignorance from genuinely intelligent people is surprising. |
The respective death tolls may not be relevant to you, they are to anyone who cares about what is going on in the occupied territory.
Israel are bombing and shelling UN organised schools and have killed innocent children, how can you justify that ? | | | |
| Barton and Yossi in twitter spat on 20:38 - Jul 25 with 7515 views | Watford_Ranger |
| Barton and Yossi in twitter spat on 20:26 - Jul 25 by THEBUSH |
The respective death tolls may not be relevant to you, they are to anyone who cares about what is going on in the occupied territory.
Israel are bombing and shelling UN organised schools and have killed innocent children, how can you justify that ? |
I'm not justifying it- it's not good at all assuming it's true. Frankly I've seen so much bollocks on the issue I have no idea what is real and what is hoaxed to provoke more bile.
The death tolls are used as stick to beat Israel with as the 'bad guy'. If both sides were freely able to kill as many of the other with the same weapons, there would be no Israel. Palestine thankfully won't be wiped out- hopefully Hamas will at least until the next terrorist sect fills the void. | | | |
| Barton and Yossi in twitter spat on 20:44 - Jul 25 with 7490 views | N12Hoop |
Forget rights to land and who was there first and living conditions etc. If Hamas dismantle their bombs there will be no more war. If Israel dismantle their bombs there will be no more Israel. Fact. |  |
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| Barton and Yossi in twitter spat on 21:09 - Jul 25 with 7425 views | THEBUSH |
| Barton and Yossi in twitter spat on 20:38 - Jul 25 by Watford_Ranger |
I'm not justifying it- it's not good at all assuming it's true. Frankly I've seen so much bollocks on the issue I have no idea what is real and what is hoaxed to provoke more bile.
The death tolls are used as stick to beat Israel with as the 'bad guy'. If both sides were freely able to kill as many of the other with the same weapons, there would be no Israel. Palestine thankfully won't be wiped out- hopefully Hamas will at least until the next terrorist sect fills the void. |
I agree with you the public are fed a pack of lies, we can only choose what we believe is nearer to the truth !! | | | |
| Barton and Yossi in twitter spat on 21:16 - Jul 25 with 7405 views | ShotKneesHoop |
With Toxic Tony being the Middle East Envoy for Peace, is it any wonder that both sides want to knock seven colours of shyte out of each other?
He'll call for Weapons Of Mass Dectruction to be available to all sides in the conflict, so he can have plenty of rubble to build his seventh house.
Why does he need seven houses? He's already got a pillar box of a wife so he should be easy to contact.
See http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/tony-blair/10981122/Tony-Blair-Im-worth |  |
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| Barton and Yossi in twitter spat on 22:07 - Jul 25 with 7287 views | THEBUSH |
| Barton and Yossi in twitter spat on 21:16 - Jul 25 by ShotKneesHoop |
With Toxic Tony being the Middle East Envoy for Peace, is it any wonder that both sides want to knock seven colours of shyte out of each other?
He'll call for Weapons Of Mass Dectruction to be available to all sides in the conflict, so he can have plenty of rubble to build his seventh house.
Why does he need seven houses? He's already got a pillar box of a wife so he should be easy to contact.
See http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/tony-blair/10981122/Tony-Blair-Im-worth |
He should be ashamed of himself and to think I nearly voted for him once  | | | |
| Barton and Yossi in twitter spat on 22:11 - Jul 25 with 7272 views | ingeminate |
| Barton and Yossi in twitter spat on 18:34 - Jul 25 by kropotkin41 |
Oh, and for what it's worth I wouldn't want another Israeli to play for QPR until there is justice for Palestine which in my opinion would mean the Right of Return and the dismantling of the Israeli apartheid apparatus entirely.......... one country for Jews and Arabs in Palestine/Israel.
No Justice, No Peace. |
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