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Mandelson to be next Ambassador to USA. 09:06 - Dec 20 with 1075 viewsfelixstowe_jack

Looks like Mandelson is to be the Uk's ambassador to the USA.
This despite twice having to resign from the Cabinet, first for an undisclosed loan to finance his mortgage and then in a "cash for passport " scandal.

He is an ex EU commissioners and as such still receives a hefty pension from the EU.

This looks like cronyism at its best. UK Ambassadors are usually career diplomats not former politicians.

He will no doubt continue push his pro EU and anti Brexit views.

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Mandelson to be next Ambassador to USA. on 09:07 - Dec 20 with 871 viewsonehunglow

Slippery personified
Clever though
And shameless

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Mandelson to be next Ambassador to USA. on 09:42 - Dec 20 with 811 viewsmajorraglan

We’ve had non diplomat ambassadors before, some appointed by the Conservatives and some appointed by Labour.

Mandelson is a clever guy and he may be able to relate and get on with Trump, but he’s not a guy if have gone for. If he can deliver a decent trade deal, it may be an inspired move. Not holding my breath though.
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Mandelson to be next Ambassador to USA. on 11:24 - Dec 20 with 770 viewsAnotherJohn

I'd say that Mandelson is indeed a clever operator, with a smooth line of patter, but my worry would be that his past policy positions are so diametrically opposed to the policies of Trump's inner circle that there is bound to be tension. The fact that Farage has close connections with some of the Trump insiders won't help. A (younger) Chris Patten type would have worked better.
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Mandelson to be next Ambassador to USA. on 11:48 - Dec 20 with 758 viewsFlashberryjack

The prince of darkness has risen.

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Mandelson to be next Ambassador to USA. on 11:53 - Dec 20 with 753 viewsJACKMANANDBOY

No one better to tell some lies.

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Mandelson to be next Ambassador to USA. on 12:06 - Dec 20 with 743 viewsLuther27

Lammy and Mandelson ….Britains dream team in the USA. We really know how to make friends and influence don’t we.
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Mandelson to be next Ambassador to USA. on 13:24 - Dec 20 with 703 viewsJoesus_Of_Narbereth


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Mandelson to be next Ambassador to USA. on 15:30 - Dec 20 with 642 viewsonehunglow

Mandelson to be next Ambassador to USA. on 12:06 - Dec 20 by Luther27

Lammy and Mandelson ….Britains dream team in the USA. We really know how to make friends and influence don’t we.


Crushing comment
Brilliant
What a pair

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Mandelson to be next Ambassador to USA. on 19:05 - Dec 20 with 578 viewsJACKMANANDBOY

Mandelson to be next Ambassador to USA. on 15:30 - Dec 20 by onehunglow

Crushing comment
Brilliant
What a pair


Chris LaCivita, Trump's Campaign Manager has called Mandelson an ' Absolute Moron ' today.

Starmer is obviously great at sounding out candidates with stakeholders.The current Ambassador Dame Karen Pierce is highly regarded in Washington, she's been in post for 4 years, previous our permanent representative at the UN and a long career in representing the UK abroad.

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Mandelson to be next Ambassador to USA. on 23:34 - Dec 20 with 524 viewsfelixstowe_jack

A foriegn country has to approve the nomination of a new ambassador. Biden could accept him only for Trump to reject him when he becomes president.

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Mandelson to be next Ambassador to USA. on 10:33 - Dec 21 with 431 viewsonehunglow

Mandelson to be next Ambassador to USA. on 19:05 - Dec 20 by JACKMANANDBOY

Chris LaCivita, Trump's Campaign Manager has called Mandelson an ' Absolute Moron ' today.

Starmer is obviously great at sounding out candidates with stakeholders.The current Ambassador Dame Karen Pierce is highly regarded in Washington, she's been in post for 4 years, previous our permanent representative at the UN and a long career in representing the UK abroad.


Keir is. Poor judge really

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Mandelson to be next Ambassador to USA. on 11:09 - Dec 21 with 414 viewsraynor94

Mandelson to be next Ambassador to USA. on 10:33 - Dec 21 by onehunglow

Keir is. Poor judge really


Yes, now given a peerage to Sue Gray, what a joke the house of Lords is, £315 every time they sign in, plus travel expenses, and some on here are talking about sharing the pain.

The members finance scheme for allowances and expenses totalled £21 million, puts things in perspective

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Mandelson to be next Ambassador to USA. on 11:10 - Dec 21 with 410 viewsJACKMANANDBOY

Mandelson to be next Ambassador to USA. on 11:09 - Dec 21 by raynor94

Yes, now given a peerage to Sue Gray, what a joke the house of Lords is, £315 every time they sign in, plus travel expenses, and some on here are talking about sharing the pain.

The members finance scheme for allowances and expenses totalled £21 million, puts things in perspective


The whole Sue Gray saga suns up our politics today.

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Mandelson to be next Ambassador to USA. on 11:11 - Dec 21 with 408 viewsJACKMANANDBOY

Mandelson to be next Ambassador to USA. on 11:09 - Dec 21 by raynor94

Yes, now given a peerage to Sue Gray, what a joke the house of Lords is, £315 every time they sign in, plus travel expenses, and some on here are talking about sharing the pain.

The members finance scheme for allowances and expenses totalled £21 million, puts things in perspective


The whole Sue Gray saga sums up our politics today.

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Mandelson to be next Ambassador to USA. on 11:28 - Dec 21 with 401 viewsAnotherJohn

Mandelson to be next Ambassador to USA. on 11:11 - Dec 21 by JACKMANANDBOY

The whole Sue Gray saga sums up our politics today.


Thangam Debbonaire is another contender in the hypocrisy/sleaze stakes.

https://www.thenational.scot/news/24811836.thangam-debbonaire-called-house-lords
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Mandelson to be next Ambassador to USA. on 11:44 - Dec 21 with 390 viewsSullutaCreturned

Mandelsohn must have some juicy stuff on the Labour party to get this gig, hell to get any gig now. He was in disgrace, hasn't been invovled for years and out of the blue....

What does he know?
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Mandelson to be next Ambassador to USA. on 12:08 - Dec 21 with 369 viewsJACKMANANDBOY

Mandelson to be next Ambassador to USA. on 11:28 - Dec 21 by AnotherJohn

Thangam Debbonaire is another contender in the hypocrisy/sleaze stakes.

https://www.thenational.scot/news/24811836.thangam-debbonaire-called-house-lords


It's like Monty Python......

Our main strength is hypocrisy and lies
Our two main strengths are hypocrisy, lies and deceit
Our three main strengths are hypocrisy, lies, deceit and double standards
Our four main strengths are............

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Mandelson to be next Ambassador to USA. on 12:24 - Dec 21 with 354 viewsReslovenSwan1

Mandelson is a networker. Very good at I suspect. I believe at least to some extent he has UK interests at heart and not entirely in it for himself.

UK have a long record in being in the right place at the right time. It does not always work of course. Libya for one.

Trump probably does not like him but after a meeting will. Mandelson wi press the right buttons.

If he was entirely in it for himself he would be on a Caribbean island somewhere.

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Mandelson to be next Ambassador to USA. on 13:37 - Dec 21 with 330 viewsAnotherJohn

Networker? As the saying goes, "It takes two to tango",

https://www.msn.com/en-us/politics/international-relations/trump-gave-permission

The naivety of the appointment is beginning to show.
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Mandelson to be next Ambassador to USA. on 14:22 - Dec 21 with 300 viewsSullutaCreturned

Mandelson to be next Ambassador to USA. on 13:37 - Dec 21 by AnotherJohn

Networker? As the saying goes, "It takes two to tango",

https://www.msn.com/en-us/politics/international-relations/trump-gave-permission

The naivety of the appointment is beginning to show.


The LaCivitas tweet...

This UK government is special. Replace a professional universally respected ambassador with an absolute moron – he should stay home! SAD!

And Trump refused to answer phone calls from our government. Just WTF does Starmer think he's doing? Trump had apparently said he wouldn't accept Mandelsohn as ambassador and may even use his veto.

I've heard people say Starmer is a clever man, sensible, a thinker. It really doesn't look like it.
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Mandelson to be next Ambassador to USA. on 14:39 - Dec 21 with 274 viewsLuther27

Mandelson to be next Ambassador to USA. on 14:22 - Dec 21 by SullutaCreturned

The LaCivitas tweet...

This UK government is special. Replace a professional universally respected ambassador with an absolute moron – he should stay home! SAD!

And Trump refused to answer phone calls from our government. Just WTF does Starmer think he's doing? Trump had apparently said he wouldn't accept Mandelsohn as ambassador and may even use his veto.

I've heard people say Starmer is a clever man, sensible, a thinker. It really doesn't look like it.


Any one think this appointment in being divisive between us and Trump thus kicking a potential trade deal with America into touch followed by a drive by Labour to cosy up more to the EU citing trade deals etc?
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Mandelson to be next Ambassador to USA. on 15:25 - Dec 21 with 253 viewsReslovenSwan1

Mandelson to be next Ambassador to USA. on 13:37 - Dec 21 by AnotherJohn

Networker? As the saying goes, "It takes two to tango",

https://www.msn.com/en-us/politics/international-relations/trump-gave-permission

The naivety of the appointment is beginning to show.


Even the Telegraph calls Mandelson a "political genius".

He has diplomatic skills and can make the US people understand that our interests align. We have assets like Cyprus, Ascencion Island and Diego Garcia.

From google
REALPOLITIK , politics based on practical objectives rather than on ideals. The word does not mean “real” in the English sense but rather connotes “things”—hence a politics of adaptation to things as they are.

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Mandelson to be next Ambassador to USA. on 17:53 - Dec 21 with 222 viewsJoesus_Of_Narbereth

Mandelson to be next Ambassador to USA. on 14:39 - Dec 21 by Luther27

Any one think this appointment in being divisive between us and Trump thus kicking a potential trade deal with America into touch followed by a drive by Labour to cosy up more to the EU citing trade deals etc?


In short no. It would be hugely embarrassing for Starmer politically to have a very public fall out with the POTUS. Every postwar leader has had cordial and positive relations with their counterparts across the Atlantic despite there often being great political differences between them.

Starmer is clearly afraid of Trump. The sending of Prince William in his place to the reopening of notre dame said it all. He doesn’t like being in a situation he can’t control.

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Mandelson to be next Ambassador to USA. on 21:19 - Dec 21 with 175 viewsReslovenSwan1

Mandelson to be next Ambassador to USA. on 14:39 - Dec 21 by Luther27

Any one think this appointment in being divisive between us and Trump thus kicking a potential trade deal with America into touch followed by a drive by Labour to cosy up more to the EU citing trade deals etc?


I have not been following the trade deals stuff. I do remember the Brexiteers saying this US deal would be the easiest deal to do and would be done very quickly. Gove perhaps.

Eight years later. .....Er no.

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Mandelson to be next Ambassador to USA. on 21:24 - Dec 21 with 170 viewsSullutaCreturned

Mandelson to be next Ambassador to USA. on 21:19 - Dec 21 by ReslovenSwan1

I have not been following the trade deals stuff. I do remember the Brexiteers saying this US deal would be the easiest deal to do and would be done very quickly. Gove perhaps.

Eight years later. .....Er no.


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