| Putin 07:37 - Sep 13 with 7853 views | mangohilljack |
"If NATO approves the use of their long-range missiles to strike Russia then we will interpret that as a declaration of war and respond accordingly"
And it does NOT look like he was bluffing.
The gravity of this situation indicates that all parties involved need to tread very very carefully and engage in diplomatic efforts to avoid full-scale confrontation.
With the democrats itching for WW3, the next 50 or so days could be the most dangerous in our history. |  | | |  |
| Putin on 13:35 - Sep 21 with 1106 views | DJack |
Given how Contro loves to post strategic gains in the Ukraine theatre of operations (whether or not they are real or propaganda) I was a little surprised he didn't mention the destruction of the Toropets ammo dump - both a strategic and logistical victory...oooops!
Somehow I think he will be extra interested in todays game and might miss this post.  |  |
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| Putin on 14:14 - Sep 21 with 1089 views | controversial_jack |
| Putin on 13:35 - Sep 21 by DJack |
Given how Contro loves to post strategic gains in the Ukraine theatre of operations (whether or not they are real or propaganda) I was a little surprised he didn't mention the destruction of the Toropets ammo dump - both a strategic and logistical victory...oooops!
Somehow I think he will be extra interested in todays game and might miss this post. |
It's hardly a victory. A blow yes - that often happens in war to all sides.. Russian ammo depts are well designed. It only destroyed about a third of the equipment there. It won't make the slightest bit if difference to the outcome and there will be payback. Over! | | | |
| Putin on 15:11 - Sep 21 with 1077 views | DJack |
| Putin on 14:14 - Sep 21 by controversial_jack |
It's hardly a victory. A blow yes - that often happens in war to all sides.. Russian ammo depts are well designed. It only destroyed about a third of the equipment there. It won't make the slightest bit if difference to the outcome and there will be payback. Over! |
As ever you are wrong.
"30,000 tonnes of explosive ordnance were detonated, which means 750,000 shells. If we take the average battle rate, the Russian Federation has fired 10,000 rounds a week. So that's two to three months' supply of ammunition. As a result of this attack, Russia has suffered losses in ammunition and we will see the impact of these losses on the front in the coming weeks," said Kiviselg.
https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2024/09/20/7476062/
https://www.volcanodiscovery.com/earthquakes/quake-info/9611698/mag2quake-Sep-18 | |
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| Putin on 16:06 - Sep 21 with 1045 views | controversial_jack |
Wrong! They are claims from Kyev who regularly spin the realty. It was about a third of that one particular depot. They have many spread out over Russia. It will not impact the conflict one bit | | | |
| Putin on 16:17 - Sep 21 with 1043 views | onehunglow |
| Putin on 16:06 - Sep 21 by controversial_jack |
Wrong! They are claims from Kyev who regularly spin the realty. It was about a third of that one particular depot. They have many spread out over Russia. It will not impact the conflict one bit |
Don’t fret
Vlad will make them pay | |
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| Putin on 18:18 - Sep 21 with 1012 views | DJack |
| Putin on 16:06 - Sep 21 by controversial_jack |
Wrong! They are claims from Kyev who regularly spin the realty. It was about a third of that one particular depot. They have many spread out over Russia. It will not impact the conflict one bit |
Err, arrant nonsense.
There are direct quotes from Estonian Intelligence noit claims from Kyiv.
As for other ammunition dumps, like this one perhaps?...
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| Putin on 10:17 - Sep 22 with 924 views | controversial_jack |
| Putin on 18:18 - Sep 21 by DJack |
Err, arrant nonsense.
There are direct quotes from Estonian Intelligence noit claims from Kyiv.
As for other ammunition dumps, like this one perhaps?...
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A claim by the white house that it was a storage depot for N Korean and not Russian made artillery. The white house, yes, that's a good source - they aren't biased in any way are they? We are not disputing there was a hit, but it was not as significant as you claim. Shall we see if this stops any further Russian advances or curtails their artillery barrage?. If it doesn't then will you concede that I was right and you were wrong? | | | |
| Putin on 11:25 - Sep 22 with 908 views | AnotherJohn |
| Putin on 10:17 - Sep 22 by controversial_jack |
A claim by the white house that it was a storage depot for N Korean and not Russian made artillery. The white house, yes, that's a good source - they aren't biased in any way are they? We are not disputing there was a hit, but it was not as significant as you claim. Shall we see if this stops any further Russian advances or curtails their artillery barrage?. If it doesn't then will you concede that I was right and you were wrong? |
At least two other big ammunition storage facilities have been hit in recent days, and then there is that unfortunate crater where the Satan II (RS-28 Sarmat) ICBM test site used to be.
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| Putin on 11:28 - Sep 22 with 904 views | onehunglow |
| Putin on 22:19 - Sep 13 by DJack |
Obvious troll is obvious.
How many "buzzwords" can you sock-puppets use in a day...industrial elites, my arris. Stick to MIC you fool as the rest of us can't keep up. |
We haven’t got any industries enough to make elites | |
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| Putin on 13:10 - Sep 22 with 843 views | DJack |
| Putin on 10:17 - Sep 22 by controversial_jack |
A claim by the white house that it was a storage depot for N Korean and not Russian made artillery. The white house, yes, that's a good source - they aren't biased in any way are they? We are not disputing there was a hit, but it was not as significant as you claim. Shall we see if this stops any further Russian advances or curtails their artillery barrage?. If it doesn't then will you concede that I was right and you were wrong? |
Strange, it is only when a "source" backs up your narrative that it becomes legitimate.
A little something for you...
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| Putin on 13:52 - Sep 22 with 803 views | controversial_jack |
Yet they are still begging for long range missiles from the west to strike inside Russia | | | |
| Putin on 15:08 - Sep 22 with 759 views | DJack |
| Putin on 13:52 - Sep 22 by controversial_jack |
Yet they are still begging for long range missiles from the west to strike inside Russia |
Your point?
They want to accurately and quickly degrade russia's capabilities to force the war to an end so they can save Ukrainian lives. Duh! | |
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| Putin on 22:21 - Sep 22 with 624 views | controversial_jack |
| Putin on 15:08 - Sep 22 by DJack |
Your point?
They want to accurately and quickly degrade russia's capabilities to force the war to an end so they can save Ukrainian lives. Duh! |
That's wishful thinking. The Ukrainian army is collapsing on all fronts and Russians are making gains everywhere. It's over for them. It's just a matter of time before they realise it.Russia is expanding it's army to 2.4 million. Somebody should tell Putin they wont have enough ammo | | | |
| Putin on 07:01 - Sep 23 with 569 views | felixstowe_jack |
| Putin on 22:21 - Sep 22 by controversial_jack |
That's wishful thinking. The Ukrainian army is collapsing on all fronts and Russians are making gains everywhere. It's over for them. It's just a matter of time before they realise it.Russia is expanding it's army to 2.4 million. Somebody should tell Putin they wont have enough ammo |
Funny how Russia can't even defend its own ammunition dumps after another two mysteriously explode in the last couple of days . Just as well North Korea is sending weapons to Russia in return for food and Iran is supplying drones and missiles.
Over 70,000 Russia troops confirmed as dead with possible 10,000s more unconfirmed with daily casualties among untrained "volunteers " now higher than trained soldiers.
I two month special operation turns into a full scale war of over 2 and half years . Not sure what Putin has gained from it. | |
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| Putin on 09:31 - Sep 23 with 538 views | controversial_jack |
| Putin on 07:01 - Sep 23 by felixstowe_jack |
Funny how Russia can't even defend its own ammunition dumps after another two mysteriously explode in the last couple of days . Just as well North Korea is sending weapons to Russia in return for food and Iran is supplying drones and missiles.
Over 70,000 Russia troops confirmed as dead with possible 10,000s more unconfirmed with daily casualties among untrained "volunteers " now higher than trained soldiers.
I two month special operation turns into a full scale war of over 2 and half years . Not sure what Putin has gained from it. |
My guess is, when the Ukrainian military finally totally collapses., Russian forces will head for Kyev to remove the current regime and replace it with one that isn't hostile to Russia and takes order from Washington and London | | | |
| Putin on 09:47 - Sep 23 with 533 views | Boundy |
| Putin on 09:31 - Sep 23 by controversial_jack |
My guess is, when the Ukrainian military finally totally collapses., Russian forces will head for Kyev to remove the current regime and replace it with one that isn't hostile to Russia and takes order from Washington and London |
Said like a true ignoramus . | |
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| Putin on 11:10 - Sep 23 with 516 views | onehunglow |
Maybe we really should stay out of this conflict and allow natural forces which would be Russia fully takes over Ukraine land .
If we allow or supply them with weapons to reach Russia then it will affect us.
If we stay out,it won’t . Therefore ,logic is that we are safer to stay out and be safer
The fact Ukraine is unlucky in having a vengeful butcher next door is tough for them but should we simply say ,we’ll unluckybut we w@nt to stay safe in our country .
I’m not sure if the likes of Finland ,Norway, Slovakia ,Denmark or Hungary are prepared to risk their own safety to help save a Foreogn land from takeover
It’s a moral issue now. | |
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| Putin on 12:35 - Sep 23 with 503 views | Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
| Putin on 09:31 - Sep 23 by controversial_jack |
My guess is, when the Ukrainian military finally totally collapses., Russian forces will head for Kyev to remove the current regime and replace it with one that isn't hostile to Russia and takes order from Washington and London |
So it’s basically a coup. |  |
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| Putin on 15:22 - Sep 23 with 397 views | theloneranger |
So if it's not a coup?? ....
Then it's a violent FIRC. - Violent foreign imposed regime change!! |  |
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| Putin on 15:35 - Sep 23 with 394 views | AnotherJohn |
| Putin on 11:10 - Sep 23 by onehunglow |
Maybe we really should stay out of this conflict and allow natural forces which would be Russia fully takes over Ukraine land .
If we allow or supply them with weapons to reach Russia then it will affect us.
If we stay out,it won’t . Therefore ,logic is that we are safer to stay out and be safer
The fact Ukraine is unlucky in having a vengeful butcher next door is tough for them but should we simply say ,we’ll unluckybut we w@nt to stay safe in our country .
I’m not sure if the likes of Finland ,Norway, Slovakia ,Denmark or Hungary are prepared to risk their own safety to help save a Foreogn land from takeover
It’s a moral issue now. |
Problem there is: would the Baltic States or Moldova be safe? Plus: what would happen to the Polish territory in the Suwalki Gap? | | | |
| Putin on 16:31 - Sep 23 with 365 views | onehunglow |
| Putin on 15:35 - Sep 23 by AnotherJohn |
Problem there is: would the Baltic States or Moldova be safe? Plus: what would happen to the Polish territory in the Suwalki Gap? |
No,but maybe we could be neutral like Switzerland or the Irish republic
Just a thought I had | |
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| Putin on 16:39 - Sep 23 with 350 views | Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
| Putin on 15:22 - Sep 23 by theloneranger |
So if it's not a coup?? ....
Then it's a violent FIRC. - Violent foreign imposed regime change!! |
It’s a complete genocide. Russia want to eliminate Ukraine and all Ukrainians off the face of the earth. | |
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| Putin (n/t) on 16:39 - Sep 23 with 350 views | Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
| Putin on 15:22 - Sep 23 by theloneranger |
So if it's not a coup?? ....
Then it's a violent FIRC. - Violent foreign imposed regime change!! |
Double post [Post edited 23 Sep 16:40]
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