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Italy v Wales : Euros Matchday Thread 15:12 - Jun 17 with 8092 viewsNotLoyal

It’s the last game of the Group A qualifiers and Wales play away again, this time in Rome against Italy. The Azzurri are flying higher than the Aeronautica Militare over a soft target on a Tuesday morning. The reversal of any vehicle especially a stereotypical Alfa Romeo won’t stop this game going ahead. Greenpeace haven’t any grudges against Mark Drakeford as far as we know and Mario Draghi continues to excel at being a ‘right’ banker.



Italy v Wales
Group A
Sunday 20th June 2021
Kick off 5pm
Olympic Stadium, Rome


Officials TBA


Italy won their first two games against Switzerland and Turkey 3-0. They are the first country to qualify for the last sixteen of this years Euros. Wales have drawn against Switzerland and beat Turkey 2-0. The latter a convincing and exciting display of attacking football. If Wales avoid defeat they will qualify in second place for the last sixteen, if they win, they win the group, if they are defeated and Switzerland win the Swiss have to turn around a five goal difference.

It isn’t over yet.

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There you go. It’s not all stereotypes though, we’ve said this before, Birmingham in that England is named after spaghetti, and has a series of roads named after it. There are some rough neighbourhoods in Italy, these are called Spaghetto’s, talking of which - in Napoli a few years ago the police were ‘right’ pizza tossers. The currency in Italy is now the euro which replaced the pasta note in about 1996 or before.

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Italy v Wales : Euros Matchday Thread on 19:27 - Jun 20 with 1401 viewsJoe_bradshaw

Italy v Wales : Euros Matchday Thread on 19:02 - Jun 20 by DwightYorkeSuperstar

We were fortunate Mancini saw it as an opportunity to let the Italian second string get some minutes in the competition and wasn't determined to score as many goals as they could.

If I was a Swiss supporter I would be very angry. Alas, Wales are through which is a tremendous achievement.

Hopefully someone close to John Hartson has a chat with him this evening.


If I were a Swiss supporter I would be very angry with my manager. They had us on the ropes and settled for 1 - 0 taking Shaquiri off and putting a defensive player on instead of putting us to the sword. Then Moore scores the equaliser and they only have themselves to blame.

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Italy v Wales : Euros Matchday Thread on 19:58 - Jun 20 with 1318 viewsmax936

Italy v Wales : Euros Matchday Thread on 18:58 - Jun 20 by raynor94

Seriously Builth, have you had a drink, they absolutely played us off the park with their 2nd eleven.

Thank god it was only one


They kicked Bale all game, there was a worse foul on one of our players, before that Italian player ran across Joe gaining a foul and a Yellow card for Joe, ridiculous, Red for Ampadu's foul you see most game's, it was a fair decision for me, but we should see more Red's for that type of foul and I think there was a similar one earlier in the game, can't remember if it was for us or Italy.

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Italy v Wales : Euros Matchday Thread on 20:01 - Jun 20 with 1316 viewsBadlands

The sending off might have helped Wales as, apart from a few flurries Italy were coasting.
Ward and Rodon were outstanding.
In future Bale should be used as a second half or 60th minute sub and Page needs to play players in their positions.

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Italy v Wales : Euros Matchday Thread on 20:13 - Jun 20 with 1282 viewsKilkennyjack

Italy v Wales : Euros Matchday Thread on 20:01 - Jun 20 by Badlands

The sending off might have helped Wales as, apart from a few flurries Italy were coasting.
Ward and Rodon were outstanding.
In future Bale should be used as a second half or 60th minute sub and Page needs to play players in their positions.


Ward and Rodon were immense.

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Italy v Wales : Euros Matchday Thread on 20:39 - Jun 20 with 1237 viewsbuilthjack

Italy v Wales : Euros Matchday Thread on 19:12 - Jun 20 by MrSwerve

Wales v Denmark for me?

Wouldn't be surprised if Denmark beat Russia and Belgium will beat Finland...


It's looking like that. But we can do Denmark.

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Italy v Wales : Euros Matchday Thread on 21:07 - Jun 20 with 1193 viewsBadlands

Italy v Wales : Euros Matchday Thread on 20:39 - Jun 20 by builthjack

It's looking like that. But we can do Denmark.


Would prefer Russia.

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Italy v Wales : Euros Matchday Thread on 21:29 - Jun 20 with 1163 viewsCatullus

I think anyone moaning about that needs to look again. Italy are by far th better team and even with 8 changes and a flurry of changes late on they were so obviously the better team on the day.
We did very well to hold out for 1 nil, it was a massive effort, even if I did disagree with 1 or 2 selections and subs but why do I know better, in tournamment football the ends justifies the means, you don't get several more chances like you do in league football.
Wales tournament record, all things taken into account, is very, very good and we move on to another game where we have a decent chance.
If we were a bit lucjy, so what? We've had plenty of bad luck oiver the years...Jordan's handball anyone? Lets enjoy it while it lasts and be proud that people are talking of Wales for all the right reasons.

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Italy v Wales : Euros Matchday Thread on 22:13 - Jun 20 with 1084 viewsonehunglow

A battling performance without doubt

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Italy v Wales : Euros Matchday Thread on 22:22 - Jun 20 with 1081 viewsFireboy2

Italy v Wales : Euros Matchday Thread on 21:29 - Jun 20 by Catullus

I think anyone moaning about that needs to look again. Italy are by far th better team and even with 8 changes and a flurry of changes late on they were so obviously the better team on the day.
We did very well to hold out for 1 nil, it was a massive effort, even if I did disagree with 1 or 2 selections and subs but why do I know better, in tournamment football the ends justifies the means, you don't get several more chances like you do in league football.
Wales tournament record, all things taken into account, is very, very good and we move on to another game where we have a decent chance.
If we were a bit lucjy, so what? We've had plenty of bad luck oiver the years...Jordan's handball anyone? Lets enjoy it while it lasts and be proud that people are talking of Wales for all the right reasons.


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Italy v Wales : Euros Matchday Thread on 23:38 - Jun 20 with 1013 viewsAndyCole

Italy v Wales : Euros Matchday Thread on 21:29 - Jun 20 by Catullus

I think anyone moaning about that needs to look again. Italy are by far th better team and even with 8 changes and a flurry of changes late on they were so obviously the better team on the day.
We did very well to hold out for 1 nil, it was a massive effort, even if I did disagree with 1 or 2 selections and subs but why do I know better, in tournamment football the ends justifies the means, you don't get several more chances like you do in league football.
Wales tournament record, all things taken into account, is very, very good and we move on to another game where we have a decent chance.
If we were a bit lucjy, so what? We've had plenty of bad luck oiver the years...Jordan's handball anyone? Lets enjoy it while it lasts and be proud that people are talking of Wales for all the right reasons.


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Excellent post.

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Italy v Wales : Euros Matchday Thread on 23:43 - Jun 20 with 1021 viewstrampie

Italy v Wales : Euros Matchday Thread on 21:07 - Jun 20 by Badlands

Would prefer Russia.


My first thought without checking the rankings was also Russia first choice for Wales then Finland but I don't want Denmark.

On checking the World rankings Finland are ranked 54 in the World, Russia 38, we are 17, Denmark are 10 in the World, out of interest Italy are 7 and the Swiss were 13 and the Turks 29.
So on ranking we should beat Finland or Russia but not Denmark and if we get through to the quarters and play the Dutch, they have a ranking of 16 compared to our 17.

On paper Wales have a chance of making the semis again.

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Italy v Wales : Euros Matchday Thread on 23:45 - Jun 20 with 1006 viewsonehunglow

We know we are lacking in real quality .
We have most players not getting any games at all in domestic football.
Ward ,all things considered was excellent and saved our bacon several times

Neco Williams to us would be a disaster. He s a lucky boy . He is shyte really.

Ok The Italians took it easy but we still battened down the hatches .

It s another day for us to watch the national team.

But please ,media,ease off on the Bale thing. He is a shadow of what he was.

Ramsey another lucky boy to be earning what he does.

Cabango s omission is sinister to me unless Page really is clueless.

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Italy v Wales : Euros Matchday Thread on 00:10 - Jun 21 with 992 viewsKeithHaynes

Italy v Wales : Euros Matchday Thread on 23:45 - Jun 20 by onehunglow

We know we are lacking in real quality .
We have most players not getting any games at all in domestic football.
Ward ,all things considered was excellent and saved our bacon several times

Neco Williams to us would be a disaster. He s a lucky boy . He is shyte really.

Ok The Italians took it easy but we still battened down the hatches .

It s another day for us to watch the national team.

But please ,media,ease off on the Bale thing. He is a shadow of what he was.

Ramsey another lucky boy to be earning what he does.

Cabango s omission is sinister to me unless Page really is clueless.


Neco was nothing more than below average against Italy. Not for us.

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Italy v Wales : Euros Matchday Thread on 00:47 - Jun 21 with 973 viewsmajorraglan

All things considered, we’ve done better than I thought we would. We’ve not played well and some of our limitations have been exposed, I didn’t expect us to finish second in the group and the fact we have is great.

In terms of today, we were poor and lucky - it could have been more than 1 - 0. Italy were by far the better team, the ref was poor as were some of our players but the Italians certainly knew to play the ref and we’re dirty and cynical.

I would rather not face Denmark next time out as they’ve had the edge over us recently and seem to be a bit of a bogey team for us, on paper Russia is the easiest of the potential opponents, but they won’t be pushovers and will be looking for revenge after 2016.
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Italy v Wales : Euros Matchday Thread on 08:57 - Jun 21 with 874 viewsBadlands

Italy v Wales : Euros Matchday Thread on 00:47 - Jun 21 by majorraglan

All things considered, we’ve done better than I thought we would. We’ve not played well and some of our limitations have been exposed, I didn’t expect us to finish second in the group and the fact we have is great.

In terms of today, we were poor and lucky - it could have been more than 1 - 0. Italy were by far the better team, the ref was poor as were some of our players but the Italians certainly knew to play the ref and we’re dirty and cynical.

I would rather not face Denmark next time out as they’ve had the edge over us recently and seem to be a bit of a bogey team for us, on paper Russia is the easiest of the potential opponents, but they won’t be pushovers and will be looking for revenge after 2016.


Another manager set up to not lose.
Another manager who bets on Bale and Ramsey producing one effective move. TBF Ramsey did some defensive work but otherwise was a waste of a shirt.
Once they scored and Ampadu saw red Italy cruised it and even then we can thank the woodwork, Rodon and Ward for keeping the score down
The ref was pretty good, Ampadu''s challenge was late high and dangerous and red was correct, I didn't see Italy as dirty or cynical.
As for being second … pure luck, with the woodwork in our games and the Swiss' getting us that position.
In 2016 we progressed largely through our own abilities, sound tactics and having a passionate beast of a captain who made sure every player worked their socks off.
Why Cabago isn't playing is a mystery. He consistently out-rates Mepham on independent stats sites and is more of a leader.
Would prefer Russia but Finland are not out of contention.

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Italy v Wales : Euros Matchday Thread on 09:06 - Jun 21 with 863 viewsonehunglow

Wales has a team of players,most of whom are 2nd/3rd choice at their club.The star players are well past their best ,as a result of that.
God knows whom Ward plays against for a living but I thought he was pretty good .

That we are even able to stand toe to toe with a massively talented football nation like Italy is pretty impressive.
Page is simply standing in for the Salford 1.

It's all about how and when we are knocked out now.

It's all a bit of summer fun whilst more important matters are sorted as the Liberty-For me anyway.

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Italy v Wales : Euros Matchday Thread on 15:09 - Jun 21 with 748 viewsdna

Holland police not letting Wales fans into the country!!
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Italy v Wales : Euros Matchday Thread on 15:11 - Jun 21 with 745 viewsKeithHaynes

Italy v Wales : Euros Matchday Thread on 15:09 - Jun 21 by dna

Holland police not letting Wales fans into the country!!


Interesting move, they obviously don’t know many live in the EU still.

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Italy v Wales : Euros Matchday Thread on 16:25 - Jun 21 with 711 viewsmax936

Italy v Wales : Euros Matchday Thread on 00:10 - Jun 21 by KeithHaynes

Neco was nothing more than below average against Italy. Not for us.


Apart from the odd game, where he's been decentish I don't really rate him, still very young though and I hope he makes me eat my words.

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Italy v Wales : Euros Matchday Thread on 16:31 - Jun 21 with 706 viewsmax936

Italy v Wales : Euros Matchday Thread on 15:09 - Jun 21 by dna

Holland police not letting Wales fans into the country!!


Their are on the UK's amber list, so they are playing the same game, both Scotland and England have played in UK for both their games, hope we get further than both of them.

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Italy v Wales : Euros Matchday Thread on 17:31 - Jun 21 with 682 viewsmax936

Dutch defender, followed through in a tackle all 6 studs caught the Macedonia's players ankle, Netherlands then went down the other end and scored, goal given, maybe not as bad, but a foul at least, double standards yet again.

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