| 8 points off relegation 22:12 - Jun 27 with 19326 views | Gloucs_R |
I do hope we're not going to wait until the last game of the season to ensure safety?
Based on last two games, against bottom 5 teams....I am a little concerned. Pretty unlikely we'll go down but I can see us in the bottom 6.... |  |
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| 8 points off relegation on 12:31 - Jul 5 with 2428 views | distortR |
| 8 points off relegation on 11:05 - Jul 5 by francisbowles |
He does have a point on that one though Brian.
Ollie was a mightily relieved man after that victory over Forest in the penultimate game, which we followed with a dreadful 4-0 loss at Norwich. We ended that season on 55 points, I think and the 52 that we had been stuck on may not have been enough. |
tbf, they were doing me a favour. I had booked up to come over some time earlier, and the club didn't want me to see a game of no consequence.
Forest needed the win as well, and looked frighteningly disinterested |  | | |
| 8 points off relegation on 12:51 - Jul 5 with 2365 views | kensalriser |
Lose today and we're a maximum five points clear. If Hull don't lose, it's four.
Wigan haven't been deducted points yet and it's by no means a given.
Defeat today would surprise no-one.
On balance I don't think we'll go down, but it's really not as outlandish a proposition as some are making out. It would be lovely if the team could end the discussion this afternoon. |  |
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| 8 points off relegation on 15:55 - Jul 5 with 2242 views | 2Thomas2Bowles |
9 is fine |  |
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| 8 points off relegation on 15:56 - Jul 5 with 2263 views | Northernr |
Never mind lads. Same time next season?  |  | | |
| 8 points off relegation on 15:56 - Jul 5 with 2263 views | kensalriser |
Yeah, that will do nicely!
Hey, can we still make the playoffs? | |
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| 8 points off relegation on 16:00 - Jul 5 with 2215 views | traininvain |
The bed wetters can put away their plastic sheets until the next year. |  | | |
| 8 points off relegation on 16:00 - Jul 5 with 2192 views | 2Thomas2Bowles |
Going to be so boring now... | |
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| 8 points off relegation on 16:02 - Jul 5 with 2184 views | Esox_Lucius |
But what if the EFL decide that the 12 point deduction has to go to us instead of Wigan because they might be the subject of a betting scam.? They have to use the deduction now they have issued it; no takesie backsies.  |  |
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| 8 points off relegation on 16:10 - Jul 5 with 2142 views | Watford_Ranger |
| 8 points off relegation on 07:35 - Jul 5 by Watford_Ranger |
A draw would be a good result just to maintain both the gap and our collective sanity. Would be very QPR to be proven wrong and turn up all of a sudden but I have a vivid image of a meek 2-0 defeat, a knackered and isolated Hugill and Amos doing his inflatable dartboard routine. |
Explains my annual Christmas card from Paddy Power. | | | |
| 8 points off relegation on 16:15 - Jul 5 with 2101 views | Lblock |
Nine points off it now.
Needed that and well done the R's and thank you very much for an absolutely awful Boro team, they were terrible.
I'd say another pint or a win will all but seal safety (!!!!!!!)
I've just seen how close we are to Brizzle City |  |
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| 8 points off relegation on 16:17 - Jul 5 with 2093 views | Northernr |
| 8 points off relegation on 16:15 - Jul 5 by Lblock |
Nine points off it now.
Needed that and well done the R's and thank you very much for an absolutely awful Boro team, they were terrible.
I'd say another pint or a win will all but seal safety (!!!!!!!)
I've just seen how close we are to Brizzle City |
Every. Season. | | | |
| 8 points off relegation on 17:19 - Jul 5 with 1963 views | Gloucs_R |
| 8 points off relegation on 16:17 - Jul 5 by Northernr |
Every. Season. |
Be nice to get another couple of wins now.... Rather than just roll over.
Good to see Kane, Kakay and some of the other fringe players get some minutes.
Would like to see a bit of Mido and Oteh now too. Plus Bettache in for Amos. | |
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| 8 points off relegation on 17:40 - Jul 5 with 1901 views | joolsyp |
| 8 points off relegation on 16:17 - Jul 5 by Northernr |
Every. Season. |
You must admit it would be nice to have a season where we don’t even have to look at other teams and results below us with 6 or 7 games to go? |  | | |
| 8 points off relegation on 17:48 - Jul 5 with 1880 views | Northernr |
| 8 points off relegation on 17:40 - Jul 5 by joolsyp |
You must admit it would be nice to have a season where we don’t even have to look at other teams and results below us with 6 or 7 games to go? |
Yes. Absolutely. I'm as sick of this as everybody else. I completely understand the restrictions they're working under, I appreciate the progress made and the direction of travel, I hope for better, but I hate these end of season collapses.
But, at the same time, I don't really see what we get, every single season, out of this sky is falling routine, pretending a team that got 50 points from 38 games is suddenly going to lose eight games in a row, and a whole load of teams that have barely done a point a game for a year are all suddenly going to go on an incredible run of victories.
Maybe it's self presevation. Oh, I'll say it, and then it won't happen. Like emotional insurance. But doesn't it just make you more panicky, anxious and miserable than you already need to be in this completely shtshow time and this completely shtshow country? QPR have been relegated from this league to the one below once in 134 years I think. The year it happened we lost 5-0 at Preston, 5-0 at Wimbledon, 5-2 at Sheff Wed, we were 3-0 down at Barnsley at half time, we were in administration, our two best players did ACLs in the same five minutes. And yet there's been threads on here saying we're getting relegated this season every season for the last four years.
I don't get it. It's weird. Even if you take all of the emotion and "typical QPR" out of it, it's just simple maths.
(Watch us get relegated now)
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| 8 points off relegation on 17:49 - Jul 5 with 1866 views | EmpireStateRanger |
13th now... a top half finish would be splendid in my eye, but I’m not holding my breathe. Most important thing is to get some of the youngins and fringe players some time. | | | |
| 8 points off relegation on 17:55 - Jul 5 with 1831 views | Gloucs_R |
| 8 points off relegation on 17:48 - Jul 5 by Northernr |
Yes. Absolutely. I'm as sick of this as everybody else. I completely understand the restrictions they're working under, I appreciate the progress made and the direction of travel, I hope for better, but I hate these end of season collapses.
But, at the same time, I don't really see what we get, every single season, out of this sky is falling routine, pretending a team that got 50 points from 38 games is suddenly going to lose eight games in a row, and a whole load of teams that have barely done a point a game for a year are all suddenly going to go on an incredible run of victories.
Maybe it's self presevation. Oh, I'll say it, and then it won't happen. Like emotional insurance. But doesn't it just make you more panicky, anxious and miserable than you already need to be in this completely shtshow time and this completely shtshow country? QPR have been relegated from this league to the one below once in 134 years I think. The year it happened we lost 5-0 at Preston, 5-0 at Wimbledon, 5-2 at Sheff Wed, we were 3-0 down at Barnsley at half time, we were in administration, our two best players did ACLs in the same five minutes. And yet there's been threads on here saying we're getting relegated this season every season for the last four years.
I don't get it. It's weird. Even if you take all of the emotion and "typical QPR" out of it, it's just simple maths.
(Watch us get relegated now)
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To be fair, I don't recall anyone on this thread saying we're going down
Even reading my original post again, it didn't say that either. Just uncomfortable that we can't get the job done earlier.
Be nice to have a few top 10 seasons.... | |
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| 8 points off relegation on 18:06 - Jul 5 with 1792 views | ManinBlack |
I agree that this country is not what it was and the current virus restrictions is a godsend for control freaks to tell us what to do and what to think.
However I didn't ever say we were going down. What I have been lambasting is our end of season not playing this game anymore, losing many games on the trot and losing to our neighbours as though London derbies are premier league away bonus games. I just get sick of what appears to be an annual event and the following silence from within the club as if it is acceptable. |  | | |
| 8 points off relegation on 18:23 - Jul 5 with 1749 views | joolsyp |
| 8 points off relegation on 17:48 - Jul 5 by Northernr |
Yes. Absolutely. I'm as sick of this as everybody else. I completely understand the restrictions they're working under, I appreciate the progress made and the direction of travel, I hope for better, but I hate these end of season collapses.
But, at the same time, I don't really see what we get, every single season, out of this sky is falling routine, pretending a team that got 50 points from 38 games is suddenly going to lose eight games in a row, and a whole load of teams that have barely done a point a game for a year are all suddenly going to go on an incredible run of victories.
Maybe it's self presevation. Oh, I'll say it, and then it won't happen. Like emotional insurance. But doesn't it just make you more panicky, anxious and miserable than you already need to be in this completely shtshow time and this completely shtshow country? QPR have been relegated from this league to the one below once in 134 years I think. The year it happened we lost 5-0 at Preston, 5-0 at Wimbledon, 5-2 at Sheff Wed, we were 3-0 down at Barnsley at half time, we were in administration, our two best players did ACLs in the same five minutes. And yet there's been threads on here saying we're getting relegated this season every season for the last four years.
I don't get it. It's weird. Even if you take all of the emotion and "typical QPR" out of it, it's just simple maths.
(Watch us get relegated now)
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Totally agree - while I wouldn't say I'm in the bedwetter category, having supported the Rs for 45 years I've developed a glass half-empty attitude (apart from the obvious successful seasons). And I'm haunted by those little runs of 5/6 losses that we've had reasonably recently, and I'm sick of looking over our shoulder as the end of season approaches ...
But you're right, the facts don't lie and I'm really encouraged by the direction we are moving in under Warbs. My hopes for next season are simple: continue bringing youngsters through, find a few diamonds to polish, play entertaining football, win a few London derbies and a little cup run would be nice. Top 10 finish and safe by March (Covid-20 permitting) would be lovely too. See - glass half full! | | | |
| 8 points off relegation on 08:16 - Jul 6 with 1485 views | stevec |
| 8 points off relegation on 17:48 - Jul 5 by Northernr |
Yes. Absolutely. I'm as sick of this as everybody else. I completely understand the restrictions they're working under, I appreciate the progress made and the direction of travel, I hope for better, but I hate these end of season collapses.
But, at the same time, I don't really see what we get, every single season, out of this sky is falling routine, pretending a team that got 50 points from 38 games is suddenly going to lose eight games in a row, and a whole load of teams that have barely done a point a game for a year are all suddenly going to go on an incredible run of victories.
Maybe it's self presevation. Oh, I'll say it, and then it won't happen. Like emotional insurance. But doesn't it just make you more panicky, anxious and miserable than you already need to be in this completely shtshow time and this completely shtshow country? QPR have been relegated from this league to the one below once in 134 years I think. The year it happened we lost 5-0 at Preston, 5-0 at Wimbledon, 5-2 at Sheff Wed, we were 3-0 down at Barnsley at half time, we were in administration, our two best players did ACLs in the same five minutes. And yet there's been threads on here saying we're getting relegated this season every season for the last four years.
I don't get it. It's weird. Even if you take all of the emotion and "typical QPR" out of it, it's just simple maths.
(Watch us get relegated now)
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All of that but I don’t think many or any thought we’d go down.
My own frustration, is we have a club that seems to be stifled by a perception built up year upon year, over 5 maybe 6 seasons, that we don’t belong at the top end of the game. It’s as if we’ve built our own glass ceiling somewhere around 13th place.
As I said at beginning of last month, the outbursts from Warburton and Hoos were frighteningly negative at a time, six points off the play offs, when they should have been emphasising every positive to the players. But this is symptomatic of everything we’ve seen under the regime around them.
We’ve developed a comfiness with mediocrity, a perception that anywhere in the bottom half that’s not the bottom three places is acceptable. That, I’m afraid, is why many of us kick off when we see the inevitable rearing it’s head again. |  | | |
| 8 points off relegation on 09:55 - Jul 6 with 1399 views | daveB |
| 8 points off relegation on 08:16 - Jul 6 by stevec |
All of that but I don’t think many or any thought we’d go down.
My own frustration, is we have a club that seems to be stifled by a perception built up year upon year, over 5 maybe 6 seasons, that we don’t belong at the top end of the game. It’s as if we’ve built our own glass ceiling somewhere around 13th place.
As I said at beginning of last month, the outbursts from Warburton and Hoos were frighteningly negative at a time, six points off the play offs, when they should have been emphasising every positive to the players. But this is symptomatic of everything we’ve seen under the regime around them.
We’ve developed a comfiness with mediocrity, a perception that anywhere in the bottom half that’s not the bottom three places is acceptable. That, I’m afraid, is why many of us kick off when we see the inevitable rearing it’s head again. |
seemed to me quite a few thought we would go down, otherwise this thread would have been a short one.
I think if we had lost yesterday and at Wigan it would have been squeaky bum time but still thought we'd have enough. We've been a bit hit and miss all season very good for a few weeks then awful for a couple but recovering out of those runs a lot quicker than in previous seasons which is a big positive.
Hopefully we build on yesterdays win, all of the games left are winnable so we should be aiming to finish as high as possible |  | | |
| 8 points off relegation on 10:00 - Jul 6 with 1390 views | Esox_Lucius |
| 8 points off relegation on 08:16 - Jul 6 by stevec |
All of that but I don’t think many or any thought we’d go down.
My own frustration, is we have a club that seems to be stifled by a perception built up year upon year, over 5 maybe 6 seasons, that we don’t belong at the top end of the game. It’s as if we’ve built our own glass ceiling somewhere around 13th place.
As I said at beginning of last month, the outbursts from Warburton and Hoos were frighteningly negative at a time, six points off the play offs, when they should have been emphasising every positive to the players. But this is symptomatic of everything we’ve seen under the regime around them.
We’ve developed a comfiness with mediocrity, a perception that anywhere in the bottom half that’s not the bottom three places is acceptable. That, I’m afraid, is why many of us kick off when we see the inevitable rearing it’s head again. |
I prefer to call it pragmatism. I see it as analogous to having sold the daily driver Aston Martin DB5 superleggera because running costs, insurance costs, maintenance costs were all turning into a huge money pit so we got shot. We ended up getting a Skoda Fabia; practical, well designed, well built and does the job required at a cost we can afford. It'll never outperform the DB5, it will never replace the DB5 in our hearts and minds but it is better for our mental health and our finances. The Skoda is enjoyable to drive but has its shortcomings, and make us hanker for the DB5 at these moments but then practicality creeps back in and we remember why we don't have the Aston any more. In time the Aston will be viewed only through rose tinted glasses and we will be wailing "Why did I ever get rid of it, it was the best car I ever owned". It will be impossible at that point to remember just why we got rid of it, other than the odd fleeting moment of lucidity, but the family and friends will all remember why you are now driving a more mundane car than your aspirations desire.
This all paves the way to the finances getting back on track, making some judicious savings and perhaps one day an Aston Martin DB5 superleggera turns up at the right price and you can now afford to buy it and run it on high days and holidays. [Post edited 6 Jul 2020 10:00]
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| 8 points off relegation on 10:10 - Jul 6 with 1371 views | francisbowles |
| 8 points off relegation on 10:00 - Jul 6 by Esox_Lucius |
I prefer to call it pragmatism. I see it as analogous to having sold the daily driver Aston Martin DB5 superleggera because running costs, insurance costs, maintenance costs were all turning into a huge money pit so we got shot. We ended up getting a Skoda Fabia; practical, well designed, well built and does the job required at a cost we can afford. It'll never outperform the DB5, it will never replace the DB5 in our hearts and minds but it is better for our mental health and our finances. The Skoda is enjoyable to drive but has its shortcomings, and make us hanker for the DB5 at these moments but then practicality creeps back in and we remember why we don't have the Aston any more. In time the Aston will be viewed only through rose tinted glasses and we will be wailing "Why did I ever get rid of it, it was the best car I ever owned". It will be impossible at that point to remember just why we got rid of it, other than the odd fleeting moment of lucidity, but the family and friends will all remember why you are now driving a more mundane car than your aspirations desire.
This all paves the way to the finances getting back on track, making some judicious savings and perhaps one day an Aston Martin DB5 superleggera turns up at the right price and you can now afford to buy it and run it on high days and holidays. [Post edited 6 Jul 2020 10:00]
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Great analogy Esox | | | |
| 8 points off relegation on 10:22 - Jul 6 with 1338 views | rsonist |
| 8 points off relegation on 08:16 - Jul 6 by stevec |
All of that but I don’t think many or any thought we’d go down.
My own frustration, is we have a club that seems to be stifled by a perception built up year upon year, over 5 maybe 6 seasons, that we don’t belong at the top end of the game. It’s as if we’ve built our own glass ceiling somewhere around 13th place.
As I said at beginning of last month, the outbursts from Warburton and Hoos were frighteningly negative at a time, six points off the play offs, when they should have been emphasising every positive to the players. But this is symptomatic of everything we’ve seen under the regime around them.
We’ve developed a comfiness with mediocrity, a perception that anywhere in the bottom half that’s not the bottom three places is acceptable. That, I’m afraid, is why many of us kick off when we see the inevitable rearing it’s head again. |
You've never been able to back up what "ambition" on the club's part would actually entail. Hot air and spending money we can't afford to seems to be the size of it, and I seem to recall we may have been around that block before. |  | | |
| 8 points off relegation on 11:57 - Jul 6 with 1236 views | PinnerPaul |
| 8 points off relegation on 17:48 - Jul 5 by Northernr |
Yes. Absolutely. I'm as sick of this as everybody else. I completely understand the restrictions they're working under, I appreciate the progress made and the direction of travel, I hope for better, but I hate these end of season collapses.
But, at the same time, I don't really see what we get, every single season, out of this sky is falling routine, pretending a team that got 50 points from 38 games is suddenly going to lose eight games in a row, and a whole load of teams that have barely done a point a game for a year are all suddenly going to go on an incredible run of victories.
Maybe it's self presevation. Oh, I'll say it, and then it won't happen. Like emotional insurance. But doesn't it just make you more panicky, anxious and miserable than you already need to be in this completely shtshow time and this completely shtshow country? QPR have been relegated from this league to the one below once in 134 years I think. The year it happened we lost 5-0 at Preston, 5-0 at Wimbledon, 5-2 at Sheff Wed, we were 3-0 down at Barnsley at half time, we were in administration, our two best players did ACLs in the same five minutes. And yet there's been threads on here saying we're getting relegated this season every season for the last four years.
I don't get it. It's weird. Even if you take all of the emotion and "typical QPR" out of it, it's just simple maths.
(Watch us get relegated now)
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Totally agree. If you didn't know and just read most of the 'relegation' posts on here you would think we are always flirting with the bottom 3, when as you say, in pure points terms we are always miles off.
Won't stop the 'We've nearly gone down for the last 3 seasons' posts in the coming months if we don't sign 5 players within 2 weeks of 20/21 starting!
Final gripe, how come 9 points from the play offs is seen as far away as another land, yet 9 points from the bottom 3 is seen as living next door to League 1 !? | | | |
| 8 points off relegation on 12:03 - Jul 6 with 1213 views | daveB |
| 8 points off relegation on 10:22 - Jul 6 by rsonist |
You've never been able to back up what "ambition" on the club's part would actually entail. Hot air and spending money we can't afford to seems to be the size of it, and I seem to recall we may have been around that block before. |
I think the club have tried to be careful with stating ambition. When Ramsey was manager Fernandes came out and said the expectation was to go up and things quickly fell apart so they have kind of just said since to be competitive which doesn't sound exciting.
For me the ambition should be to improve every year, get more points, win more games, finish higher in the table, more hits than misses with the transfers and if you keep doing that eventually that will end in high positions in the league.
Last season we finished 19th, 51 points won 14 games
This year with 5 to play we have 53 points and won 15 games so small improvement with a real opportunity if we can get a few more wins to say we've made big steps forward this year | | | |
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