Breaking anti-Semitism news on 08:48 - Nov 27 with 1634 views | waynekerr55 |
Breaking anti-Semitism news on 21:58 - Nov 26 by exiledclaseboy | 13 minutes of a 27 minute interview Neil spent on this before he even got to asking Corbyn about a policy. Corbyn could have saved 12 of those minutes by saying “Yes, we’ve got it wrong, I apologise to anyone effected and we’ll put it right”. |
That was my thought. Why wouldn't he? | |
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Breaking anti-Semitism news on 11:25 - Nov 27 with 1587 views | Ebo |
Breaking anti-Semitism news on 08:48 - Nov 27 by waynekerr55 | That was my thought. Why wouldn't he? |
Why should he apologise for something that’s blown out of proportion by the media and not of his own doing? | |
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Breaking anti-Semitism news on 11:41 - Nov 27 with 1577 views | waynekerr55 |
Breaking anti-Semitism news on 11:25 - Nov 27 by Ebo | Why should he apologise for something that’s blown out of proportion by the media and not of his own doing? |
Because he misses so many opportunities to knock the issue into orbit. A simple "as I said before I apologise to those who feel we aren't working fast enough but I am personally pushing for it to be resolved." Whether we like it or not soundbites are king and that's what will sway the electorate | |
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Breaking anti-Semitism news on 09:35 - Nov 28 with 1527 views | Ebo |
Breaking anti-Semitism news on 11:41 - Nov 27 by waynekerr55 | Because he misses so many opportunities to knock the issue into orbit. A simple "as I said before I apologise to those who feel we aren't working fast enough but I am personally pushing for it to be resolved." Whether we like it or not soundbites are king and that's what will sway the electorate |
By apologising he is admitting false guilt and falling right into their trap. The biggest racial issue we have right now is the one sitting in No10. | |
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Breaking anti-Semitism news on 10:36 - Nov 28 with 1516 views | waynekerr55 |
Breaking anti-Semitism news on 09:35 - Nov 28 by Ebo | By apologising he is admitting false guilt and falling right into their trap. The biggest racial issue we have right now is the one sitting in No10. |
But there is AS - almost certainly not as big as it's made out. You won't have any disagreement from me about de Pfefell | |
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Breaking anti-Semitism news on 10:48 - Nov 28 with 1510 views | felixstowe_jack |
Breaking anti-Semitism news on 09:35 - Nov 28 by Ebo | By apologising he is admitting false guilt and falling right into their trap. The biggest racial issue we have right now is the one sitting in No10. |
Do you mean the one who has apologised for any offence he caused. | |
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Breaking anti-Semitism news on 10:50 - Nov 28 with 1501 views | Highjack |
Breaking anti-Semitism news on 10:36 - Nov 28 by waynekerr55 | But there is AS - almost certainly not as big as it's made out. You won't have any disagreement from me about de Pfefell |
There is no problem because everybody who complains about it are fake Jews. | |
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Breaking anti-Semitism news on 11:15 - Nov 28 with 1474 views | bluey_the_blue |
Breaking anti-Semitism news on 10:36 - Nov 28 by waynekerr55 | But there is AS - almost certainly not as big as it's made out. You won't have any disagreement from me about de Pfefell |
15000 pages of evidence submitted to EHRC suggests it's bigger that people want to believe. | | | |
Breaking anti-Semitism news on 12:12 - Nov 28 with 1457 views | Ebo |
Breaking anti-Semitism news on 11:15 - Nov 28 by bluey_the_blue | 15000 pages of evidence submitted to EHRC suggests it's bigger that people want to believe. |
Being critical of a government/regime does not make you an anti-semite. I'll wager a lot of those pages contain references made about the Israeli government. Let's tackle the issue that is staring us in the face - Johnson and his array of racist remarks and political statements. | |
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Breaking anti-Semitism news on 12:16 - Nov 28 with 1449 views | Highjack |
Breaking anti-Semitism news on 12:12 - Nov 28 by Ebo | Being critical of a government/regime does not make you an anti-semite. I'll wager a lot of those pages contain references made about the Israeli government. Let's tackle the issue that is staring us in the face - Johnson and his array of racist remarks and political statements. |
Why don’t we condemn all those who act in such a way and not just those who we don’t agree with? | |
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Breaking anti-Semitism news on 12:20 - Nov 28 with 1441 views | bluey_the_blue |
Breaking anti-Semitism news on 12:12 - Nov 28 by Ebo | Being critical of a government/regime does not make you an anti-semite. I'll wager a lot of those pages contain references made about the Israeli government. Let's tackle the issue that is staring us in the face - Johnson and his array of racist remarks and political statements. |
I'll wager any references to Israeli government in the evidence are where antisemitic scum *demand* British Jews apologise for Israeli government. Must be some reason for that, after all, only racist scum would demand British Muslims apologise for Saudis, Yemen et al... Still, what would Jews know about antisemitism. Corbyn's on the case... maybe... | | | |
Breaking anti-Semitism news on 12:21 - Nov 28 with 1440 views | Darran |
Breaking anti-Semitism news on 12:16 - Nov 28 by Highjack | Why don’t we condemn all those who act in such a way and not just those who we don’t agree with? |
Because people like Ebo are hypocrites. | |
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Breaking anti-Semitism news on 12:56 - Nov 28 with 1425 views | Ebo |
Breaking anti-Semitism news on 12:21 - Nov 28 by Darran | Because people like Ebo are hypocrites. |
...and people like Darren are massive attention seeking WUM’s. Every topic started designed to rub people up the wrong way. | |
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Breaking anti-Semitism news on 13:06 - Nov 28 with 1417 views | Ebo |
Breaking anti-Semitism news on 12:20 - Nov 28 by bluey_the_blue | I'll wager any references to Israeli government in the evidence are where antisemitic scum *demand* British Jews apologise for Israeli government. Must be some reason for that, after all, only racist scum would demand British Muslims apologise for Saudis, Yemen et al... Still, what would Jews know about antisemitism. Corbyn's on the case... maybe... |
The merest reference to any topic with the word Jew in these days gets loaded to the point so that it’s anti-Semitic. But it’s ‘ok’ to make light of Muslims and other religions. If you oppose the Saudi regime it’s makes you “ok and righteous”. Oppose the Israeli govt - anti-Semite. Why can’t people get it into their thick heads that opposing a govt is not opposing a race or a religion but a political body? Yet this gets loaded time and time again. There are millions of Jews who oppose the Israeli govt. Does that make them Anti-Semite too? | |
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Breaking anti-Semitism news on 13:20 - Nov 28 with 1412 views | Darran |
Breaking anti-Semitism news on 12:56 - Nov 28 by Ebo | ...and people like Darren are massive attention seeking WUM’s. Every topic started designed to rub people up the wrong way. |
Standard pitiful reply off you these days John. Mind you I notice you haven’t replied to my earlier post of proving him admitting the AS in the party. Strange that eh? | |
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Breaking anti-Semitism news on 13:31 - Nov 28 with 1404 views | waynekerr55 |
Breaking anti-Semitism news on 13:06 - Nov 28 by Ebo | The merest reference to any topic with the word Jew in these days gets loaded to the point so that it’s anti-Semitic. But it’s ‘ok’ to make light of Muslims and other religions. If you oppose the Saudi regime it’s makes you “ok and righteous”. Oppose the Israeli govt - anti-Semite. Why can’t people get it into their thick heads that opposing a govt is not opposing a race or a religion but a political body? Yet this gets loaded time and time again. There are millions of Jews who oppose the Israeli govt. Does that make them Anti-Semite too? |
I think you have a point Ebs, however there is an AS element to the current Labour party. Is Corbyn an AS? I don't think he is but he tolerates some of his allies being AS | |
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Breaking anti-Semitism news on 13:39 - Nov 28 with 1397 views | Ebo |
Breaking anti-Semitism news on 13:20 - Nov 28 by Darran | Standard pitiful reply off you these days John. Mind you I notice you haven’t replied to my earlier post of proving him admitting the AS in the party. Strange that eh? |
The link doesn't work so I cannot comment on it. | |
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Breaking anti-Semitism news on 13:43 - Nov 28 with 1393 views | Ebo |
Breaking anti-Semitism news on 13:31 - Nov 28 by waynekerr55 | I think you have a point Ebs, however there is an AS element to the current Labour party. Is Corbyn an AS? I don't think he is but he tolerates some of his allies being AS |
What people don't realise is that he simply cannot just say "you are immediately are expelled from the party" without investigation of what they allegedly said. Investigations take time and yes he has taken action and apologised in the past. There are AS and racist elements in all parties - why are they not being scrutinised like Labour? | |
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Breaking anti-Semitism news on 15:28 - Nov 28 with 1353 views | waynekerr55 |
Breaking anti-Semitism news on 13:43 - Nov 28 by Ebo | What people don't realise is that he simply cannot just say "you are immediately are expelled from the party" without investigation of what they allegedly said. Investigations take time and yes he has taken action and apologised in the past. There are AS and racist elements in all parties - why are they not being scrutinised like Labour? |
I think we are broadly on the same wavelength Ebs. Its al about PR and unfortunately with that goon Milne pulling the strings they're fùcked | |
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Breaking anti-Semitism news on 15:41 - Nov 28 with 1349 views | Lohengrin |
Breaking anti-Semitism news on 15:28 - Nov 28 by waynekerr55 | I think we are broadly on the same wavelength Ebs. Its al about PR and unfortunately with that goon Milne pulling the strings they're fùcked |
Come on now, Wayne. Are you trying to tell me that Jeremy’s backing band M & M - Milne and Murray - with their expressions of solidarity with North Korea and praise for the legacies of Mao and Stalin don’t connect fully with the public? You’re just being silly. They resonate so strongly it’s a wonder we don’t all think we’ve come down with St Vitus Dance... | |
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Breaking anti-Semitism news on 16:00 - Nov 28 with 1342 views | bluey_the_blue |
Breaking anti-Semitism news on 13:06 - Nov 28 by Ebo | The merest reference to any topic with the word Jew in these days gets loaded to the point so that it’s anti-Semitic. But it’s ‘ok’ to make light of Muslims and other religions. If you oppose the Saudi regime it’s makes you “ok and righteous”. Oppose the Israeli govt - anti-Semite. Why can’t people get it into their thick heads that opposing a govt is not opposing a race or a religion but a political body? Yet this gets loaded time and time again. There are millions of Jews who oppose the Israeli govt. Does that make them Anti-Semite too? |
Good grief. Demanding British Jews condemn Israeli government isn't antisemitic? As usual, the point has flown right over your head. Do you or others backing Corbyn demand British Muslims condemn Israel? Yes or no? Why can't racists get it into their thick heads it's perfectly possible to condemn Israeli government without using antisemitism in the process? It's as if they want free reign to use antisemitism yet claim it's only aimed at Israeli government... But still. clearly all 15000 pages of the report sent to EHRC, serious enough for EHRC to launch an investigation are nothing more than criticism of Israel. Honest. The investigation is clearly nothing, after all Corbyn merely claims it's about process whilst ignoring what EHRC themselves say... EDIT: Of course Jews can be antisemitic. It's like saying a person of colour can't possibly be racist. [Post edited 28 Nov 2019 16:02]
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Breaking anti-Semitism news on 16:08 - Nov 28 with 1336 views | Ebo |
Breaking anti-Semitism news on 16:00 - Nov 28 by bluey_the_blue | Good grief. Demanding British Jews condemn Israeli government isn't antisemitic? As usual, the point has flown right over your head. Do you or others backing Corbyn demand British Muslims condemn Israel? Yes or no? Why can't racists get it into their thick heads it's perfectly possible to condemn Israeli government without using antisemitism in the process? It's as if they want free reign to use antisemitism yet claim it's only aimed at Israeli government... But still. clearly all 15000 pages of the report sent to EHRC, serious enough for EHRC to launch an investigation are nothing more than criticism of Israel. Honest. The investigation is clearly nothing, after all Corbyn merely claims it's about process whilst ignoring what EHRC themselves say... EDIT: Of course Jews can be antisemitic. It's like saying a person of colour can't possibly be racist. [Post edited 28 Nov 2019 16:02]
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I don’t know where you got the term “demand British Jews to apologise for the actions of Israel” from. Certainly not from me or any Labour Party member that I can recall and of course that is wrong. But certainly British Jews should be concerned at what the Israeli govt is doing using their religion as an excuse. Much in the same way British Muslims are appalled at the actions of a minority who hi-jack their religion. We don’t ask them to apologise either - why should we? They are innocent just like British Jews. Again you twist things. | |
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Breaking anti-Semitism news on 16:16 - Nov 28 with 1326 views | bluey_the_blue |
Breaking anti-Semitism news on 16:08 - Nov 28 by Ebo | I don’t know where you got the term “demand British Jews to apologise for the actions of Israel” from. Certainly not from me or any Labour Party member that I can recall and of course that is wrong. But certainly British Jews should be concerned at what the Israeli govt is doing using their religion as an excuse. Much in the same way British Muslims are appalled at the actions of a minority who hi-jack their religion. We don’t ask them to apologise either - why should we? They are innocent just like British Jews. Again you twist things. |
Should read social media a bit more. British Jews are, gasp, British. The bullshit you and others put forward "should be concerned at what the Israeli govt is doing using their religion as an excuse", apart from being also repeats the antisemitic "dual loyalties" trope. No twisting. Just have dealt with and reported more antisemites than you've had hot dinners. | | | |
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