| Romanians coming to Britain.. 19:51 - Nov 13 with 11985 views | KeyserSoze |
There has been a lot said on here about personal arguments and a lack of debate, so I thought i'd start a thread on something that hopefully people have insightful opinions and differing views on.
So, with Romanians gaining easier access to the UK and the same rights to the NHS etc as other EU countries in January, what impact do you think this will have on the UK?
I personally think it is a bad idea.
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| Romanians coming to Britain.. on 20:02 - Nov 13 with 6746 views | Darran |
I was talking to someone the other day that was slagging the NHS off,personally having seen a lot of it I don't think it's that much different to what it's always been it just can't cope with the amount of people it's having to treat.
We shouldn't be in Europe and they shouldn't be allowed to come here. |  |
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| Romanians coming to Britain.. on 20:07 - Nov 13 with 6740 views | exiledclaseboy |
I heard on the radio the other week that the amount of Bulgarians and Romanians who actually have any intention of coming here is nowhere near the hype. I can't remember the source though. |  |
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| Romanians coming to Britain.. on 20:09 - Nov 13 with 6735 views | KeyserSoze |
| Romanians coming to Britain.. on 20:02 - Nov 13 by Darran |
I was talking to someone the other day that was slagging the NHS off,personally having seen a lot of it I don't think it's that much different to what it's always been it just can't cope with the amount of people it's having to treat.
We shouldn't be in Europe and they shouldn't be allowed to come here. |
Is the correct answer.
It's a bit of a circle, they say the NHS wouldn't survive without foreign doctors/nurses etc, but we would need a lot less NHS staff if there were less people to treat!
It's funny how people say the NHS has gone downhill over the years which funnily enough coincides with the huge influx of immigration into the UK.
This isn't a 'I hate foreigners' post, I just don't feel our infrastructure can carry on coping and running efficiently if we have another flood of people coming in from abroad. | |
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| Romanians coming to Britain.. on 20:10 - Nov 13 with 6730 views | Darran |
| Romanians coming to Britain.. on 20:09 - Nov 13 by KeyserSoze |
Is the correct answer.
It's a bit of a circle, they say the NHS wouldn't survive without foreign doctors/nurses etc, but we would need a lot less NHS staff if there were less people to treat!
It's funny how people say the NHS has gone downhill over the years which funnily enough coincides with the huge influx of immigration into the UK.
This isn't a 'I hate foreigners' post, I just don't feel our infrastructure can carry on coping and running efficiently if we have another flood of people coming in from abroad. |
I agree. | |
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| Romanians coming to Britain.. on 20:18 - Nov 13 with 6718 views | exiledclaseboy |
The problems in the NHS are far more complex and wide ranging than just reducing it to "too many immigrants" in my opinion. Immigration is undoubtedly a factor but far from being the only or even the major factor. | |
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| Romanians coming to Britain.. on 20:20 - Nov 13 with 6710 views | Darran |
| Romanians coming to Britain.. on 20:18 - Nov 13 by exiledclaseboy |
The problems in the NHS are far more complex and wide ranging than just reducing it to "too many immigrants" in my opinion. Immigration is undoubtedly a factor but far from being the only or even the major factor. |
It's not the major factor I agree. | |
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| Romanians coming to Britain.. on 20:24 - Nov 13 with 6704 views | orion3016 |
Simple economics
They will put even greater burden on the governments finances, which means our finances |  |
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| Romanians coming to Britain.. on 20:28 - Nov 13 with 6698 views | exiledclaseboy |
| Romanians coming to Britain.. on 20:24 - Nov 13 by orion3016 |
Simple economics
They will put even greater burden on the governments finances, which means our finances |
Well no it's not that simple because they'll be coming here to work and mostly do the sub-minimum wage jobs Brits don't want. It's largely another myth that most of eastern Europe is here to leech or benefits system. | |
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| Romanians coming to Britain.. on 20:31 - Nov 13 with 6690 views | KeyserSoze |
I am just as worried about the crime, living in London I imagine we'll bear the brunt of the pickpocketing etc that seems prevalent among the Roma Gypsy community. | |
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| Romanians coming to Britain.. on 20:34 - Nov 13 with 6686 views | orion3016 |
| Romanians coming to Britain.. on 20:28 - Nov 13 by exiledclaseboy |
Well no it's not that simple because they'll be coming here to work and mostly do the sub-minimum wage jobs Brits don't want. It's largely another myth that most of eastern Europe is here to leech or benefits system. |
Yes they will work but they'll target the nhs and the cost of that will outweigh the productivity | |
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| Romanians coming to Britain.. on 20:36 - Nov 13 with 6683 views | exiledclaseboy |
| Romanians coming to Britain.. on 20:34 - Nov 13 by orion3016 |
Yes they will work but they'll target the nhs and the cost of that will outweigh the productivity |
What do you mean by "target" the NHS? They're deliberately going to get ill while they're here so they can use it? Or they're going to use it to get treatment they don't need just because it's there? I'm confused. | |
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| Romanians coming to Britain.. on 20:40 - Nov 13 with 6674 views | orion3016 |
| Romanians coming to Britain.. on 20:36 - Nov 13 by exiledclaseboy |
What do you mean by "target" the NHS? They're deliberately going to get ill while they're here so they can use it? Or they're going to use it to get treatment they don't need just because it's there? I'm confused. |
From 1st hand experience European workers come here with pre existing conditions and will be in to see a GP very quickly then push for treatment & operations with the supported care our excellent and world renowned health service provides
It's not necessarily the workers but the immediate family they bring with them that cost us | |
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| Romanians coming to Britain.. on 20:44 - Nov 13 with 6664 views | exiledclaseboy |
| Romanians coming to Britain.. on 20:40 - Nov 13 by orion3016 |
From 1st hand experience European workers come here with pre existing conditions and will be in to see a GP very quickly then push for treatment & operations with the supported care our excellent and world renowned health service provides
It's not necessarily the workers but the immediate family they bring with them that cost us |
Ah I see, slightly different to your original point but a fair concern I suppose. I doubt that's a large scale problem though. It goes back to my point though that immigration is only one of the problems facing the NHS. Idiotic politicians is its main problem. | |
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| Romanians coming to Britain.. on 21:09 - Nov 13 with 6619 views | PureRockFury |
What have the Romanians ever done for us? |  |
| Even the bad times were good. |
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| Romanians coming to Britain.. on 21:10 - Nov 13 with 6613 views | JacksawayatWalesgame |
We are sleep walking into the abyss. |  | | |
| Romanians coming to Britain.. on 21:15 - Nov 13 with 6605 views | exiledclaseboy |
| Romanians coming to Britain.. on 21:10 - Nov 13 by JacksawayatWalesgame |
We are sleep walking into the abyss. |
Heaping up our own funeral pyre... | |
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| Romanians coming to Britain.. on 21:59 - Nov 13 with 6569 views | Free_Willy |
The positives are that Businesses can lower wages and slum landlords can make a killing in providing government subsidized housing and youth unemployment will rise. |  | | |
| Romanians coming to Britain.. on 22:20 - Nov 13 with 6550 views | orion3016 |
| Romanians coming to Britain.. on 21:09 - Nov 13 by PureRockFury |
What have the Romanians ever done for us? |
Roads, sanitation & the aquaduct | |
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| Romanians coming to Britain.. on 22:21 - Nov 13 with 6549 views | NOTRAC |
To Romania or not to remain here, that is the question. | |
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| Romanians coming to Britain.. on 23:05 - Nov 13 with 6523 views | ossie_jacks |
| Romanians coming to Britain.. on 20:02 - Nov 13 by Darran |
I was talking to someone the other day that was slagging the NHS off,personally having seen a lot of it I don't think it's that much different to what it's always been it just can't cope with the amount of people it's having to treat.
We shouldn't be in Europe and they shouldn't be allowed to come here. |
We shouldn't be in Europe and they shouldn't be allowed to come here.
spot on |  | | |
| Romanians coming to Britain.. on 23:34 - Nov 13 with 6507 views | Lord_Bony |
But the women are lovely |  |
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| Romanians coming to Britain.. on 23:39 - Nov 13 with 6500 views | Darran |
| Romanians coming to Britain.. on 23:34 - Nov 13 by Lord_Bony |
But the women are lovely |
Really? | |
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| Romanians coming to Britain.. on 23:40 - Nov 13 with 6483 views | Lord_Bony |
Oh yes 9s&10s abound...apart from the fortune teller types of course... | |
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