| New kit pics are on twitter, modelled by Rhys 14:04 - Jun 14 with 10236 views | CockneyDale |
I don't know how to post them here, but hopefully someone else can help.
I wouldn't predict massive sales..... |  | | |  |
| New kit pics are on twitter, modelled by Rhys on 23:41 - Jun 14 with 1374 views | TVOS1907 |
| New kit pics are on twitter, modelled by Rhys on 21:20 - Jun 14 by PDIDDY |
Wow,wow,wow, at least it's the same colour, a club who's had more kit changes since the 70s than tvos has changed his knickers |
Keep trying. |  |
| When I was your age, I used to enjoy the odd game of tennis. Or was it golf? |
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| New kit pics are on twitter, modelled by Rhys on 23:42 - Jun 14 with 1352 views | TVOS1907 |
| New kit pics are on twitter, modelled by Rhys on 21:45 - Jun 14 by 442Dale |
The shorts impact the overall look of the kit and can also affect the game when you're watching it. With our white/blue/white away kit games against teams that wear blue/white/blue become a mishmash of the same colours. It's one reason why World Cups see teams wearing kits of all one colour (France wearing all blue and all white).
For an example of what Fila could have provided, see the link below. The stripes are basic yet work very well, and that white kit with a blue and black sash would have been better than the one we got.
http://www.footballshirtculture.com/13/14-kits/afc-bournemouth-2013-2014-fila-fo [Post edited 1 Jan 1970 1:00]
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Those Bournemouth kits are excellent, tbf. | |
| When I was your age, I used to enjoy the odd game of tennis. Or was it golf? |
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| New kit pics are on twitter, modelled by Rhys on 04:00 - Jun 15 with 1300 views | AtThePeake |
442 is so god damn right it hurts.
And it's not even like it's difficult. It's just obvious stuff.
If the sponsor was lower down, in the a colour that didn't make it look ridiculous and cheap (white) and the badge was central, that would be a very smart kit. How hard would that have been? Who actually think the kit looks better with the sponsor in red and pushed up so high and the badge at the side? It's not a massive issue. But it's so bloody simple to get right, and yet the club still can't. I was considering purchasing after seeing the original photo, but now I won't.
With regards to people 'choosing' that kit, other people have mentioned how it was the best of a bad bunch. I personally think the one that's chosen could have been quite smart - but the other two were truly horrible. As for the white away one, I'm not a fan of playing in Bury colours, but the black would have clashed with the home kit and that yellow kit was the most gaudy, Sunday-league looking shirt I've ever seen. We were left with no choice. |  |
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| New kit pics are on twitter, modelled by Rhys on 07:18 - Jun 15 with 1286 views | NorthernSou1 |
| New kit pics are on twitter, modelled by Rhys on 04:00 - Jun 15 by AtThePeake |
442 is so god damn right it hurts.
And it's not even like it's difficult. It's just obvious stuff.
If the sponsor was lower down, in the a colour that didn't make it look ridiculous and cheap (white) and the badge was central, that would be a very smart kit. How hard would that have been? Who actually think the kit looks better with the sponsor in red and pushed up so high and the badge at the side? It's not a massive issue. But it's so bloody simple to get right, and yet the club still can't. I was considering purchasing after seeing the original photo, but now I won't.
With regards to people 'choosing' that kit, other people have mentioned how it was the best of a bad bunch. I personally think the one that's chosen could have been quite smart - but the other two were truly horrible. As for the white away one, I'm not a fan of playing in Bury colours, but the black would have clashed with the home kit and that yellow kit was the most gaudy, Sunday-league looking shirt I've ever seen. We were left with no choice. |
Oh dear!
When do we get a new kit? Turning out in that every week will be an embarrassment!
What's wrong with keeping it simple? Black & blue stripes.
Can't we just keep last seasons shirt and change the sponsor?? |  | | |
| New kit pics are on twitter, modelled by Rhys on 09:10 - Jun 15 with 1250 views | 442Dale |
On the link posted by Col on page one, why doesn't the vote for each kit add up to 100%? Surely those who voted did so for both kits and thus the percentages for the home and away would be 100%?
As it is, the percentages for all six options add up to 100%; 51% of votes on the three home options and 49% on the three away choices.
Could the resident mathematicians on here explain this. |  |
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| New kit pics are on twitter, modelled by Rhys on 09:16 - Jun 15 with 1246 views | BartRowou |
| New kit pics are on twitter, modelled by Rhys on 09:10 - Jun 15 by 442Dale |
On the link posted by Col on page one, why doesn't the vote for each kit add up to 100%? Surely those who voted did so for both kits and thus the percentages for the home and away would be 100%?
As it is, the percentages for all six options add up to 100%; 51% of votes on the three home options and 49% on the three away choices.
Could the resident mathematicians on here explain this. |
You can have more than or less than 100% e.g. the lad gave 110%. |  |
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| New kit pics are on twitter, modelled by Rhys on 09:20 - Jun 15 with 1242 views | 442Dale |
| New kit pics are on twitter, modelled by Rhys on 09:16 - Jun 15 by BartRowou |
You can have more than or less than 100% e.g. the lad gave 110%. |
He didn't give 110% if he chose not to vote for the away kit. | |
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| New kit pics are on twitter, modelled by Rhys on 10:27 - Jun 15 with 1180 views | SalwaDale |
| New kit pics are on twitter, modelled by Rhys on 09:10 - Jun 15 by 442Dale |
On the link posted by Col on page one, why doesn't the vote for each kit add up to 100%? Surely those who voted did so for both kits and thus the percentages for the home and away would be 100%?
As it is, the percentages for all six options add up to 100%; 51% of votes on the three home options and 49% on the three away choices.
Could the resident mathematicians on here explain this. |
I would guess they just counted votes on all kits, went for the highest percentage home shirt and highest percentage away shirt. That way the total adds to 100% and I guess a few people just voted for the home shirt. Think I'm correct in thinking it would have no bearing whatsoever on the result. |  |
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| New kit pics are on twitter, modelled by Rhys on 10:39 - Jun 15 with 1173 views | SaxonDale |
| New kit pics are on twitter, modelled by Rhys on 18:55 - Jun 14 by 442Dale |
Wouldn't say I'm one for design, but knowing what a kit should incorporate whilst being practical and looking good is a simple enough task if the following are considered:
- brand. We have a unique colour scheme in English football, build on it.
- history. Keep the kits, home and away, loyal to the club and brand.
- ensure thought is given to opponents so there is NEVER a clash when choosing an away kit. Needing a third kit is a failure of the whole process. Look at Villa's new kit, their away shirt has blackcurrant (f'n purple again) and white quarters. Their home kit is claret FFS.
- add something each year to create a selling point, in the end that's the main purpose of a new kit - to bring in money. eg introducing a sash (see classic Palace kits) a yellow away kit with blue & black sash.
The blue & black sells itself if kept simple (see brand) but changes can be made and then voted on, but always offer simple blue and black stripes as an option with a good design (see last season's kit). |
Some very good points made in this thread by 442. As has been said the idea to vote on a kit is very good, however I think had their been an option to tick 'none' when voting then that would have won by a considerable distance. I chose the two kits that were eventually selected because I disliked both less than the other options. Won't be buying either shirt. |  | | |
| New kit pics are on twitter, modelled by Rhys on 10:45 - Jun 15 with 1163 views | PotterDale |
| New kit pics are on twitter, modelled by Rhys on 21:20 - Jun 14 by PDIDDY |
Wow,wow,wow, at least it's the same colour, a club who's had more kit changes since the 70s than tvos has changed his knickers |
Don't be so mean. Its not as easy as you think to find underwear in XXXXXXL. |  | | |
| New kit pics are on twitter, modelled by Rhys on 10:53 - Jun 15 with 1141 views | Stockyhargreave |
Talk about drama.
442Dale as always whinging and having a pop wherever possible about anything he can. (Nit picking about percentages FFS!)
People complaining that the sponsor is on the shirt is in the colour that the sponsor would want it to be.
Yes the club could have taken a better approach to this (and most things in general) but the kit isn't as bad as everyone is making out. Had we gone for Bournemouths kit in our colours I guarantee people would complain we had just copied that design.
If you don't want to buy the kit then don't but bear in mind that this is less revenue for the club.
Typical case of the usual few who seem to think they speak for the majority of Dale fans and that their opinion is more worthy. [Post edited 1 Jan 1970 1:00]
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| New kit pics are on twitter, modelled by Rhys on 10:57 - Jun 15 with 1131 views | Londondale |
That's the worst kit I think I've seen for many years. I don't mean just Dale kits either, it's bloody awful. Looks like a sort of half-arsed training top. |  | | |
| New kit pics are on twitter, modelled by Rhys on 10:59 - Jun 15 with 1126 views | Ralphs12 |
| New kit pics are on twitter, modelled by Rhys on 10:39 - Jun 15 by SaxonDale |
Some very good points made in this thread by 442. As has been said the idea to vote on a kit is very good, however I think had their been an option to tick 'none' when voting then that would have won by a considerable distance. I chose the two kits that were eventually selected because I disliked both less than the other options. Won't be buying either shirt. |
Seconded.
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| New kit pics are on twitter, modelled by Rhys on 11:08 - Jun 15 with 1117 views | funkkk |
| New kit pics are on twitter, modelled by Rhys on 10:53 - Jun 15 by Stockyhargreave |
Talk about drama.
442Dale as always whinging and having a pop wherever possible about anything he can. (Nit picking about percentages FFS!)
People complaining that the sponsor is on the shirt is in the colour that the sponsor would want it to be.
Yes the club could have taken a better approach to this (and most things in general) but the kit isn't as bad as everyone is making out. Had we gone for Bournemouths kit in our colours I guarantee people would complain we had just copied that design.
If you don't want to buy the kit then don't but bear in mind that this is less revenue for the club.
Typical case of the usual few who seem to think they speak for the majority of Dale fans and that their opinion is more worthy. [Post edited 1 Jan 1970 1:00]
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You've sort of touched on the point. This is a large portion of revenue we will be missing out on due to the kits being so poor.
If we take this board as a barometer of how the fan base feels then it's clear the vast majority agree.
I guess it's all irrelevant now as the club ignored the fans when the options were made available. |  | | |
| New kit pics are on twitter, modelled by Rhys on 11:15 - Jun 15 with 1104 views | rafc1984 |
| New kit pics are on twitter, modelled by Rhys on 23:42 - Jun 14 by TVOS1907 |
Those Bournemouth kits are excellent, tbf. |
Yeah they are good looking kits. Saw a family wearing them while we were in turkey so they have been available to buy for the last couple of weeks.
When are ours available to buy? |  | | |
| New kit pics are on twitter, modelled by Rhys on 11:23 - Jun 15 with 1077 views | rafc1984 |
| New kit pics are on twitter, modelled by Rhys on 11:08 - Jun 15 by funkkk |
You've sort of touched on the point. This is a large portion of revenue we will be missing out on due to the kits being so poor.
If we take this board as a barometer of how the fan base feels then it's clear the vast majority agree.
I guess it's all irrelevant now as the club ignored the fans when the options were made available. |
Great stuff, sounds like I won't have to beat off the masses while trying to get my hands on a new kit then! | | | |
| New kit pics are on twitter, modelled by Rhys on 11:24 - Jun 15 with 1075 views | Stockyhargreave |
| New kit pics are on twitter, modelled by Rhys on 11:08 - Jun 15 by funkkk |
You've sort of touched on the point. This is a large portion of revenue we will be missing out on due to the kits being so poor.
If we take this board as a barometer of how the fan base feels then it's clear the vast majority agree.
I guess it's all irrelevant now as the club ignored the fans when the options were made available. |
Why will we miss out on a 'large' portion?
Just because people on here voice a dislike doesn't mean the rest of the fans who don't post on here agree.
There's 10 or so people on here who don't like it. I have spoke to 10 or so other Dale fans who don't post on here who do like it.
Whatever the club did the usuals would have found some way to have a pop and general moan.(As stated before I do agree with some of these moans as certain areas of the club are in need of serious improvement)
Kit sales will be at a similar as they are every year, some people will like a kit and some people won't.
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| New kit pics are on twitter, modelled by Rhys on 11:24 - Jun 15 with 1074 views | roccydaleian |
| New kit pics are on twitter, modelled by Rhys on 11:15 - Jun 15 by rafc1984 |
Yeah they are good looking kits. Saw a family wearing them while we were in turkey so they have been available to buy for the last couple of weeks.
When are ours available to buy? |
When i was up at the club t'other week, i asked when the new shirts would be ready and was told 5th/6th July. |  | | |
| New kit pics are on twitter, modelled by Rhys on 11:28 - Jun 15 with 1067 views | rafc1984 |
| New kit pics are on twitter, modelled by Rhys on 11:24 - Jun 15 by roccydaleian |
When i was up at the club t'other week, i asked when the new shirts would be ready and was told 5th/6th July. |
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| New kit pics are on twitter, modelled by Rhys on 11:31 - Jun 15 with 1063 views | 442Dale |
| New kit pics are on twitter, modelled by Rhys on 10:53 - Jun 15 by Stockyhargreave |
Talk about drama.
442Dale as always whinging and having a pop wherever possible about anything he can. (Nit picking about percentages FFS!)
People complaining that the sponsor is on the shirt is in the colour that the sponsor would want it to be.
Yes the club could have taken a better approach to this (and most things in general) but the kit isn't as bad as everyone is making out. Had we gone for Bournemouths kit in our colours I guarantee people would complain we had just copied that design.
If you don't want to buy the kit then don't but bear in mind that this is less revenue for the club.
Typical case of the usual few who seem to think they speak for the majority of Dale fans and that their opinion is more worthy. [Post edited 1 Jan 1970 1:00]
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No whinging, in fact it may have been in this very thread that every post on these sort of subjects is borne out of a desire to improve any given area. Whinging would indicate that no alternatives and suggestions are provided on howthings can be improved, but that's not the case. Surely we'd all want to do things better? The percentages thing didn't make much sense but WiganDale has given the obvious explanation to it.
The fans were given the chance to speak on this and their opinion is indeed the important one as the club have gone with the kits they chose. It was excellent that the club have gone down this route again, but, as you say they could have taken a better approach, namely when it comes to the kits available to vote on.
Of course everyone else's opinion is as worthy. But there will always be debates where one person argues their case. | |
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| New kit pics are on twitter, modelled by Rhys on 11:42 - Jun 15 with 1048 views | funkkk |
| New kit pics are on twitter, modelled by Rhys on 11:24 - Jun 15 by Stockyhargreave |
Why will we miss out on a 'large' portion?
Just because people on here voice a dislike doesn't mean the rest of the fans who don't post on here agree.
There's 10 or so people on here who don't like it. I have spoke to 10 or so other Dale fans who don't post on here who do like it.
Whatever the club did the usuals would have found some way to have a pop and general moan.(As stated before I do agree with some of these moans as certain areas of the club are in need of serious improvement)
Kit sales will be at a similar as they are every year, some people will like a kit and some people won't.
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Well I've spoken to 11 other dale fans who don't like it...
Seriously if you think kit sales are the same regardless of quality of kit you are deluded. | | | |
| New kit pics are on twitter, modelled by Rhys on 11:47 - Jun 15 with 1045 views | Stockyhargreave |
And that last point 442Dale is why this messageboard is interesting to someone like me who is normally a mere observer.
I agree with many of your points 442Dale and you often have excellent solutions and suggestions.
A lot of the time however it seems like you have an agenda and simply criticise whenever, wherever and whoever you can - just an opinion like. | | | |
| New kit pics are on twitter, modelled by Rhys on 12:02 - Jun 15 with 1024 views | 442Dale |
| New kit pics are on twitter, modelled by Rhys on 11:47 - Jun 15 by Stockyhargreave |
And that last point 442Dale is why this messageboard is interesting to someone like me who is normally a mere observer.
I agree with many of your points 442Dale and you often have excellent solutions and suggestions.
A lot of the time however it seems like you have an agenda and simply criticise whenever, wherever and whoever you can - just an opinion like. |
Only agenda is to try and come up with what you mention in the middle line.
Constructively criticise? Yes. Whoever? That's why I try and use "club" wherever possible - anything and everything to do with Rochdale AFC is the responsibility of the staff who work there, the board, the fans, the Supporters Trust and anyone else linked to it. If anyone who falls into those categories is constructively criticised by posts on here and they take it on board, then this place is working as it should. It's a great tool for the club to use.
I agree that a lot of this thread does appear to be nit-picking actually, but only because kits are a particular interest. I'll bore anyone to death on the subject, and appreciate that a very small minority find the posts on it interesting.
For what it's worth I don't mind the new home kit, the shirt on its own is not as effective as the kit as a whole. The kits we've had at home for the last few years since going to blue and black have been good, this is the first to have not been the same standard. There was the case of having white turnovers instead of black on the socks of the 08-09 kit though..... [Post edited 1 Jan 1970 1:00]
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| New kit pics are on twitter, modelled by Rhys on 12:03 - Jun 15 with 1023 views | ChaffRAFC |
| New kit pics are on twitter, modelled by Rhys on 11:47 - Jun 15 by Stockyhargreave |
And that last point 442Dale is why this messageboard is interesting to someone like me who is normally a mere observer.
I agree with many of your points 442Dale and you often have excellent solutions and suggestions.
A lot of the time however it seems like you have an agenda and simply criticise whenever, wherever and whoever you can - just an opinion like. |
That's not the case, he's not got an agenda but he's highlighting the problems that simply shouldn't exist because they are easily avoidable. Unfortunately on this issue, the problem is going to cause a big loss in revenue by the looks of it. As someone who buys kits year in, year out, I'm not buying either kit this coming season. |  |
| If I hadn't seen such riches, I could live with being poor |
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| New kit pics are on twitter, modelled by Rhys on 12:13 - Jun 15 with 1005 views | 442Dale |
| New kit pics are on twitter, modelled by Rhys on 12:03 - Jun 15 by ChaffRAFC |
That's not the case, he's not got an agenda but he's highlighting the problems that simply shouldn't exist because they are easily avoidable. Unfortunately on this issue, the problem is going to cause a big loss in revenue by the looks of it. As someone who buys kits year in, year out, I'm not buying either kit this coming season. |
Unfortunately, if sales are lower there would be a fear the fans may not be asked to vote again. But that would be missing the point completely.
Give them quality options. | |
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