| Britain is the Western Sharia Law Capital 08:14 - Dec 19 with 1914 views | AnotherJohn |
The Times has a big feature today on the growth of Sharia tribunals in the UK. It has undertaken an investigation that concludes that Britain has become the “western capital” for sharia courts, dealing with such areas as family and inheritance law.
https://www.thetimes.com/uk/society/article/sharia-law-courts-uk-marriages-divor
Extract from behind The Times pay-wall.
“An investigation by The Times also discovered that polygamy is so normalised that an app for Muslims in England and Wales to create Islamic wills has a drop-down menu for men to say how many wives they have (between one and four). The app, approved by a sharia court, gives daughters half as much inheritance as sons.
The number of sharia courts, also known as councils, in Britain has grown to 85 since the first began operating in the country in 1982.
Muslims from across Europe and North America are increasingly turning to Britain’s sharia courts, which operate as informal bodies issuing religious rulings on marriage and family life.
About 100,000 Islamic marriages are believed to have been conducted in Britain, many of which are not officially registered with the civil authorities.”
Although it doesn’t really feature in the Times article, one of the key issues is how this fits in with the British legal system and laws such as the Equality Act. Some people say there is no real problem because none of the Muslim tribunals have legal standing in the UK. However, others point out that where people on both sides of a dispute agree to be bound by an agreed alternative dispute resolution mechanism such as arbitration, this has real world-impact and is legally sanctioned by the Arbitration Act, 1996.
https://lawandreligionuk.com/2012/10/24/sharia-law-the-arbitration-act-1996-and-
Many will see this as a dry subject, but it looks set to be a hot issue.
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| Britain is the Western Sharia Law Capital on 18:49 - Dec 19 with 1254 views | max936 |
Its an absolute ticking time bomb, because Governments after Governments have had their heads in the sand over immigration and its to late now, no one in power is going to prosecute anyone practicing sharia law and its totally unlawful and it should have been stopped at the first sign of it happening, this used to be Great Britain, Dear me.!  |  |
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| Britain is the Western Sharia Law Capital on 19:48 - Dec 19 with 1218 views | howenjack |
| Britain is the Western Sharia Law Capital on 18:49 - Dec 19 by max936 |
Its an absolute ticking time bomb, because Governments after Governments have had their heads in the sand over immigration and its to late now, no one in power is going to prosecute anyone practicing sharia law and its totally unlawful and it should have been stopped at the first sign of it happening, this used to be Great Britain, Dear me.! |
Lord Denning must be turning in his grave. | | | |
| Britain is the Western Sharia Law Capital on 19:58 - Dec 19 with 1211 views | max936 |
| Britain is the Western Sharia Law Capital on 19:48 - Dec 19 by howenjack |
Lord Denning must be turning in his grave. |
There's a law here, there's no need for another culture to practice their law here, by all means come here obviously legally, but abide by the law that's here. | |
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| Britain is the Western Sharia Law Capital on 20:24 - Dec 19 with 1195 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
Law is used in UK to settle disputes. It seems in this case where all parties abide by religious laws there is no dispute because they have already effectively arbitrated and come to a solution.
One of my neighbours and Indian national herself working in immigration. Most problems relate r to Afghans wanting to bring their family over and UK resistance. While this seemed harsh to me at first it relates to mine than one wife and their children. This is illegal in UK.
Will have to ask her if such claims succeeded. |  |
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| Britain is the Western Sharia Law Capital on 21:49 - Dec 19 with 1161 views | majorraglan |
| Britain is the Western Sharia Law Capital on 20:24 - Dec 19 by ReslovenSwan1 |
Law is used in UK to settle disputes. It seems in this case where all parties abide by religious laws there is no dispute because they have already effectively arbitrated and come to a solution.
One of my neighbours and Indian national herself working in immigration. Most problems relate r to Afghans wanting to bring their family over and UK resistance. While this seemed harsh to me at first it relates to mine than one wife and their children. This is illegal in UK.
Will have to ask her if such claims succeeded. |
The point you make about more than 1 wife is interesting and 1 I’d never considered. My view is that the laws of this land only allow for 1 legal wife, so in terms of the Afghans they should only be allowed to bring in 1 wife. Any other wives, would not be recognised by British law and none of the privileges of husband and wife should he extended to other “wives ” | | | |
| Britain is the Western Sharia Law Capital on 21:53 - Dec 19 with 1149 views | Whiterockin |
| Britain is the Western Sharia Law Capital on 21:49 - Dec 19 by majorraglan |
The point you make about more than 1 wife is interesting and 1 I’d never considered. My view is that the laws of this land only allow for 1 legal wife, so in terms of the Afghans they should only be allowed to bring in 1 wife. Any other wives, would not be recognised by British law and none of the privileges of husband and wife should he extended to other “wives ” |
Didn't we have a similar discussion on 13 year old brides. |  | | |
| Britain is the Western Sharia Law Capital on 22:02 - Dec 19 with 1134 views | Flashberryjack |
For years there have been parks in London run under muslim law, with signs saying no dogs or short skirts, and thes laws are enforced by gangs of muslims, it has been reported the police several times with no action taken.
Many were warned of the dangers of mass immigration, but many choose to ignore it. |  |
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| Britain is the Western Sharia Law Capital on 22:18 - Dec 19 with 1086 views | raynor94 |
| Britain is the Western Sharia Law Capital on 22:02 - Dec 19 by Flashberryjack |
For years there have been parks in London run under muslim law, with signs saying no dogs or short skirts, and thes laws are enforced by gangs of muslims, it has been reported the police several times with no action taken.
Many were warned of the dangers of mass immigration, but many choose to ignore it. |
Blackburn Bradford and Rotherham to just name 3, where these things go on.
Look at the hounding out of teachers who dare to mention Allah, we are a Christian Country, and how many schools in these areas are not allowed to celebrate Christmas.
Your last paragraph is 100% correct |  |
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| Britain is the Western Sharia Law Capital on 22:19 - Dec 19 with 1086 views | majorraglan |
| Britain is the Western Sharia Law Capital on 21:53 - Dec 19 by Whiterockin |
Didn't we have a similar discussion on 13 year old brides. |
Not sure, but it’s completely unacceptable. | | | |
| Britain is the Western Sharia Law Capital on 22:39 - Dec 19 with 1058 views | Whiterockin |
| Britain is the Western Sharia Law Capital on 22:19 - Dec 19 by majorraglan |
Not sure, but it’s completely unacceptable. |
Agreed. But my point was if someone legally marries a girl of 13 in their country, what is the position if they visit the UK. | | | |
| Britain is the Western Sharia Law Capital on 08:50 - Dec 20 with 884 views | felixstowe_jack |
No religious marriage in the UK are recognised unless it takes place in an authorised venue, is witnessed or carried out by someone authorised to register marriages and both parties sign the register.
Legal age for marriage in England and Wales is now 18. | |
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| Britain is the Western Sharia Law Capital on 09:06 - Dec 20 with 868 views | onehunglow |
That should shock us to the core
It wont to all though
They have a different culture and one which they are and have forced upon us
Warnings are thee
No politicians will stand up against this filth because they will be called racist by people who live on an area unaffected by it .
The likes of Blackburn,Bradford, and many parts of Leicester and Luton have been totally radicalised ….for the worse | |
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| Britain is the Western Sharia Law Capital on 10:48 - Dec 20 with 810 views | controversial_jack |
| Britain is the Western Sharia Law Capital on 08:50 - Dec 20 by felixstowe_jack |
No religious marriage in the UK are recognised unless it takes place in an authorised venue, is witnessed or carried out by someone authorised to register marriages and both parties sign the register.
Legal age for marriage in England and Wales is now 18. |
The marriage has already taken place outside of the UK | | | |
| Britain is the Western Sharia Law Capital on 11:16 - Dec 20 with 785 views | AnotherJohn |
| Britain is the Western Sharia Law Capital on 08:50 - Dec 20 by felixstowe_jack |
No religious marriage in the UK are recognised unless it takes place in an authorised venue, is witnessed or carried out by someone authorised to register marriages and both parties sign the register.
Legal age for marriage in England and Wales is now 18. |
Something that surprised me in the link posted by Major is that there seems to be a de facto recognition of multiple marriages when it comes to the award of social security benefits. | | | |
| Britain is the Western Sharia Law Capital on 12:12 - Dec 20 with 748 views | Flashberryjack |
The more tolerant we become to their way of life, the less tolerant they become to ours. | |
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| Britain is the Western Sharia Law Capital on 12:12 - Dec 20 with 748 views | Luther27 |
| Britain is the Western Sharia Law Capital on 09:06 - Dec 20 by onehunglow |
That should shock us to the core
It wont to all though
They have a different culture and one which they are and have forced upon us
Warnings are thee
No politicians will stand up against this filth because they will be called racist by people who live on an area unaffected by it .
The likes of Blackburn,Bradford, and many parts of Leicester and Luton have been totally radicalised ….for the worse |
Integration eh. A one way ticket. Not forgetting parts of society who want no impingement on their patch regards to policing etc. Community leaders put in place for that. | | | |
| Britain is the Western Sharia Law Capital on 12:32 - Dec 20 with 727 views | union_jack |
| Britain is the Western Sharia Law Capital on 12:12 - Dec 20 by Flashberryjack |
The more tolerant we become to their way of life, the less tolerant they become to ours. |
You give an inch and they think they’re a ruler! |  |
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| Britain is the Western Sharia Law Capital on 12:37 - Dec 20 with 719 views | Boundy |
| Britain is the Western Sharia Law Capital on 12:12 - Dec 20 by Luther27 |
Integration eh. A one way ticket. Not forgetting parts of society who want no impingement on their patch regards to policing etc. Community leaders put in place for that. |
Sadly less and less so , certainly not with a large amount of new generation that is .The younger generation of muslims because of varying factors fail to recognise them selves as being anything other than British and understandably so.
https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/01419870.2018.1532098#d1e153 | |
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| Britain is the Western Sharia Law Capital on 13:45 - Dec 20 with 669 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
Religions can be toxic. If you look at the middle east since the 1920 ethnic separation has been occuring where by Christians. Muslims and Jews lived side by side for centuries in the Ottoman Empire and other. When the empire collapsed the ethnic religious groups fragmented and separated and fought each other.
It is Sen today in Azerbaijan where Christians packed their bags and left Nagorno Kadabag rather that live in a Muslim State.
The immigrants who come here support this segregation while flourishing in a liberal society which promotes integration and free movement. Those of a religious disposition concentrate in
local area and then apply they culture.
This concentration and s desire to take control of local affair was seen in the African community as well as given massive support by many on here. We all stood to attention and bent the knee to Afro people taking control of their local neighbourhood with older women running communes of predominantly women and children and defunding the police.
Swansea city stood behind a flag of BLM which supported defunding the police and running their own neighbourhoods. This was a type of "Sharia law". Sharia law is not that practiced on Afghanistan necessarily.
We in Wales could follow the law of Hywyl Dda | |
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| Britain is the Western Sharia Law Capital on 15:46 - Dec 20 with 595 views | onehunglow |
| Britain is the Western Sharia Law Capital on 13:45 - Dec 20 by ReslovenSwan1 |
Religions can be toxic. If you look at the middle east since the 1920 ethnic separation has been occuring where by Christians. Muslims and Jews lived side by side for centuries in the Ottoman Empire and other. When the empire collapsed the ethnic religious groups fragmented and separated and fought each other.
It is Sen today in Azerbaijan where Christians packed their bags and left Nagorno Kadabag rather that live in a Muslim State.
The immigrants who come here support this segregation while flourishing in a liberal society which promotes integration and free movement. Those of a religious disposition concentrate in
local area and then apply they culture.
This concentration and s desire to take control of local affair was seen in the African community as well as given massive support by many on here. We all stood to attention and bent the knee to Afro people taking control of their local neighbourhood with older women running communes of predominantly women and children and defunding the police.
Swansea city stood behind a flag of BLM which supported defunding the police and running their own neighbourhoods. This was a type of "Sharia law". Sharia law is not that practiced on Afghanistan necessarily.
We in Wales could follow the law of Hywyl Dda |
Religion IS toxic | |
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| Britain is the Western Sharia Law Capital on 21:18 - Dec 20 with 499 views | Boundy |
| Britain is the Western Sharia Law Capital on 15:46 - Dec 20 by onehunglow |
Religion IS toxic |
some more than others , as sadly we've witnessed yet again tonight. | |
| "In a free society, the State is the servant of the people—not the master." |
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| Britain is the Western Sharia Law Capital on 21:37 - Dec 20 with 474 views | Flashberryjack |
| Britain is the Western Sharia Law Capital on 21:18 - Dec 20 by Boundy |
some more than others , as sadly we've witnessed yet again tonight. |
And the Muslim religion is the most brutal and intolerant of them all. | |
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| Britain is the Western Sharia Law Capital on 21:46 - Dec 20 with 470 views | Boundy |
| Britain is the Western Sharia Law Capital on 21:37 - Dec 20 by Flashberryjack |
And the Muslim religion is the most brutal and intolerant of them all. |
There can't be an argument against your post. | |
| "In a free society, the State is the servant of the people—not the master." |
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