| Rats in a sack... on 13:15 - Feb 1 with 2261 views | Boundy |
Not sure if this is common knowledge but even the so called "socialist" Labour party in Wales ( very small s ) believes in accumulating as much personal wealth as the Torys as they can .For example Lee Waters MS for Llanelli also has a house in Penarth of which we the great unwashed contribute to its upkeep. The travel time from his home in Llanelli to the bay is 55 minutes so why does he (and others ) feel that he has to have another home when his main residence is less that an hours travel time away, the same journey that many from west Wales have to do and return daily due to the lack of job opportunities in this part of the world , which is only going to get worse due to the steel works going later this year ( without a whimper from Cardiff / Westminster) |  |
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| Rats in a sack... on 15:49 - Feb 1 with 2218 views | SullutaCreturned |
| Rats in a sack... on 13:15 - Feb 1 by Boundy |
Not sure if this is common knowledge but even the so called "socialist" Labour party in Wales ( very small s ) believes in accumulating as much personal wealth as the Torys as they can .For example Lee Waters MS for Llanelli also has a house in Penarth of which we the great unwashed contribute to its upkeep. The travel time from his home in Llanelli to the bay is 55 minutes so why does he (and others ) feel that he has to have another home when his main residence is less that an hours travel time away, the same journey that many from west Wales have to do and return daily due to the lack of job opportunities in this part of the world , which is only going to get worse due to the steel works going later this year ( without a whimper from Cardiff / Westminster) |
Not forgetting of course, he claimed driving expenses for every mile there and back which was close on 12000 miles.
The senedd members claimed 5.7 million in expenses,
https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/senedd-expenses-politics-mss-20469363
It's just another gravy train with an increasing number of snouts in the troughs. It's no different to nor better than Westminster. | | | |
| Rats in a sack... on 16:01 - Feb 1 with 2212 views | AnotherJohn |
What struck me was that the suspended councillor, Rob James, was an aide to our very own Geraint Davies, who is also suspended. Admittedly this was for different reasons, but suspensions in our neck of the woods seem alarmingly common. | | | |
| Rats in a sack... on 16:05 - Feb 1 with 2185 views | Boundy |
Brief scan reading but I noticed a statement that " Only MSs in north or mid and west Wales are entitled to claim for second homes" surely it should be based on travelling time /mileage before being considered to be able to claim a second home . we're being taken for mugs by west minister and the scum in cardiff , those in Westminster I would expect that but by our very own. Waters even claimed for his gas and tv licence so under what heading would that come under ,miscellaneous pig swilling. | |
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| Rats in a sack... on 16:17 - Feb 1 with 2191 views | SullutaCreturned |
| Rats in a sack... on 16:05 - Feb 1 by Boundy |
Brief scan reading but I noticed a statement that " Only MSs in north or mid and west Wales are entitled to claim for second homes" surely it should be based on travelling time /mileage before being considered to be able to claim a second home . we're being taken for mugs by west minister and the scum in cardiff , those in Westminster I would expect that but by our very own. Waters even claimed for his gas and tv licence so under what heading would that come under ,miscellaneous pig swilling. |
MPS definitely. | | | |
| Rats in a sack... on 19:25 - Feb 1 with 2127 views | Gwyn737 |
Whenever I read these stories I’m always torn between being disgusted and felling relieved they’ve been caught. | | | |
| Rats in a sack... on 10:14 - Feb 2 with 2039 views | raynor94 |
It's been revealed that if the number of MPs was increased to the same as the Assembly proposal, there would be over 2000 MPs!
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| Rats in a sack... on 12:16 - Feb 2 with 1994 views | felixstowe_jack |
Nothing wrong with the Boundary commission. Their job is to make sure constituencies are roughly the same size and everyone vote counts equally.
In some areas the population is either static or falling while other areas the population increases.
Nothing really to complain about an independent body doing their job properly. | |
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| Rats in a sack... on 14:04 - Feb 2 with 1944 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Rats in a sack... on 12:16 - Feb 2 by felixstowe_jack |
Nothing wrong with the Boundary commission. Their job is to make sure constituencies are roughly the same size and everyone vote counts equally.
In some areas the population is either static or falling while other areas the population increases.
Nothing really to complain about an independent body doing their job properly. |
Its the resultant negative democratic impact Wales.
Wales today has a small say in Westmonster, in future it will have even less of a say.
They need not fret though, Wales will be just fine on its own.
We understand we are not valued and not wanted.
Devo Max is therefore a logical step.
After that all options are there for the people of Wales (only) to decide.
We dont care what PM Richard Smith might think.
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| Rats in a sack... on 23:21 - Feb 2 with 1891 views | majorraglan |
If the facts are as portrayed by JON, then there needs to be an investigation, shouldn’t be too difficult.
Nobody, absolutely nobody should be above the law, once we start sliding down this road then our democracy is threatened. Politicians are not above the law whether they are Conservative, Labour, Plaid, Lib Dem or any other party. | | | |
| Rats in a sack... on 01:22 - Feb 3 with 1879 views | Robbie |
I treasure my vote , my choice to elect whoever sly and a liar in Westminster is , stillI do it .
Now the WAG have picked up on this gravy train , easy money for more expenses claims .
Seems Cardiff Bay are pushing for more AMs too , up to 96 members next recount .
Pigs with snouts in the trough would be my view of a lot of Politicians now .
No confidence in any of our elected leaders of any myself .
You wonder why Youngsters cannot be bothered to go to the polling booth and mark X . | | | |
| Rats in a sack... on 10:05 - Feb 3 with 1813 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Rats in a sack... on 01:22 - Feb 3 by Robbie |
I treasure my vote , my choice to elect whoever sly and a liar in Westminster is , stillI do it .
Now the WAG have picked up on this gravy train , easy money for more expenses claims .
Seems Cardiff Bay are pushing for more AMs too , up to 96 members next recount .
Pigs with snouts in the trough would be my view of a lot of Politicians now .
No confidence in any of our elected leaders of any myself .
You wonder why Youngsters cannot be bothered to go to the polling booth and mark X . |
If you can do mobile banking on a phone app, then shirley an app for voting is possible …?
Then the young people might vote more ?
The Welsh Government needs more members as its light compared to Scotland and the north of Ireland. Plus the number of Welsh Mp’s is getting lowered in Westmonster.
Johnson made a record number of Life Peers in the HoL …. so we could start cutting numbers with this unelected House ? | |
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| Rats in a sack... on 10:21 - Feb 4 with 1766 views | SullutaCreturned |
| Rats in a sack... on 10:05 - Feb 3 by Kilkennyjack |
If you can do mobile banking on a phone app, then shirley an app for voting is possible …?
Then the young people might vote more ?
The Welsh Government needs more members as its light compared to Scotland and the north of Ireland. Plus the number of Welsh Mp’s is getting lowered in Westmonster.
Johnson made a record number of Life Peers in the HoL …. so we could start cutting numbers with this unelected House ? |
An app for voting would not be safe, it would be very foolish given how we know hackers have gotten into very high security systems including the Pentagon.
The Welsh government isn't light, Scotland and NI have more members than they need. Do the maths, number of elected reps by head of population, Wales isn't light in Westminster but the proposed number of MS's is, at 96 way more than we need and will gobble up yet more millions in public money that our hard pressed services are in desperate need of.
Then there's the proposal for closed lists, an idea Dafydd Wigley has called it a very great danger and Prof Laura McAllister calls it a bad idea too, you know who she is, Kilky?
Kilky, I have often said that the more politicians we allow to exist the worse things get. Here in Wales we have 22 LGA's and 60 MS's, they use up far too much of the money Drakeford says we are short of. If they want to take more money away from public services to spend on politics, why do you support it? It is NOT improving democracy and taking away our right to choose the PERSON we vote for is a blatant attack on democracy.
These changes should be put to the electorate. | | | |
| Rats in a sack... on 11:02 - Feb 4 with 1741 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Rats in a sack... on 10:21 - Feb 4 by SullutaCreturned |
An app for voting would not be safe, it would be very foolish given how we know hackers have gotten into very high security systems including the Pentagon.
The Welsh government isn't light, Scotland and NI have more members than they need. Do the maths, number of elected reps by head of population, Wales isn't light in Westminster but the proposed number of MS's is, at 96 way more than we need and will gobble up yet more millions in public money that our hard pressed services are in desperate need of.
Then there's the proposal for closed lists, an idea Dafydd Wigley has called it a very great danger and Prof Laura McAllister calls it a bad idea too, you know who she is, Kilky?
Kilky, I have often said that the more politicians we allow to exist the worse things get. Here in Wales we have 22 LGA's and 60 MS's, they use up far too much of the money Drakeford says we are short of. If they want to take more money away from public services to spend on politics, why do you support it? It is NOT improving democracy and taking away our right to choose the PERSON we vote for is a blatant attack on democracy.
These changes should be put to the electorate. |
No offence but you are saying that internet banking, which is very complex, is proven and safe, and yet we cannot possibly build a safe system to accept a simple ‘X ‘ in a box ?
I call bollox.
Its inevitable.
And think of all the money you would save hiring the people who check its you when you vote…?
Could spend that on hospitals instead ….
Current system not super safe mind, you could give any name and address and vote. Never asked for the polling card.
You are wrong on the numbers as i have shown above.
As usual you are getting mixed up.
The numbers needed is one thing.
How the elect them is another. And i am far more likely to agree with Laura and Dafydd than you are. Dafydd is correct on the closed lists and the relationship between the elected member and the citizen is vital and must not be lost.
As you are so close to Laura’s body of work can we take it that you support the recent Commission work led by Laura and Rowan ?
It says the current UK must change. More devolution or Indy - glad you agree.
Michelle O’Neill’s appointment yesterday is just the start.
The old union is dead. [Post edited 4 Feb 11:04]
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| Rats in a sack... on 12:10 - Feb 4 with 1720 views | Boundy |
| Rats in a sack... on 10:21 - Feb 4 by SullutaCreturned |
An app for voting would not be safe, it would be very foolish given how we know hackers have gotten into very high security systems including the Pentagon.
The Welsh government isn't light, Scotland and NI have more members than they need. Do the maths, number of elected reps by head of population, Wales isn't light in Westminster but the proposed number of MS's is, at 96 way more than we need and will gobble up yet more millions in public money that our hard pressed services are in desperate need of.
Then there's the proposal for closed lists, an idea Dafydd Wigley has called it a very great danger and Prof Laura McAllister calls it a bad idea too, you know who she is, Kilky?
Kilky, I have often said that the more politicians we allow to exist the worse things get. Here in Wales we have 22 LGA's and 60 MS's, they use up far too much of the money Drakeford says we are short of. If they want to take more money away from public services to spend on politics, why do you support it? It is NOT improving democracy and taking away our right to choose the PERSON we vote for is a blatant attack on democracy.
These changes should be put to the electorate. |
How can anyone justify the proposed amount of new un elected AMs at a time when services in Wales are near to total collapse . I wonder what the views are of those who support the idea , if the equivalent amount were proposed for Westminster then imagine the outrage there would be as it would equate to more than 2,000 MPs , the wage and expenses bill alone would be astronomical. | |
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| Rats in a sack... on 12:59 - Feb 4 with 1709 views | SullutaCreturned |
| Rats in a sack... on 11:02 - Feb 4 by Kilkennyjack |
No offence but you are saying that internet banking, which is very complex, is proven and safe, and yet we cannot possibly build a safe system to accept a simple ‘X ‘ in a box ?
I call bollox.
Its inevitable.
And think of all the money you would save hiring the people who check its you when you vote…?
Could spend that on hospitals instead ….
Current system not super safe mind, you could give any name and address and vote. Never asked for the polling card.
You are wrong on the numbers as i have shown above.
As usual you are getting mixed up.
The numbers needed is one thing.
How the elect them is another. And i am far more likely to agree with Laura and Dafydd than you are. Dafydd is correct on the closed lists and the relationship between the elected member and the citizen is vital and must not be lost.
As you are so close to Laura’s body of work can we take it that you support the recent Commission work led by Laura and Rowan ?
It says the current UK must change. More devolution or Indy - glad you agree.
Michelle O’Neill’s appointment yesterday is just the start.
The old union is dead. [Post edited 4 Feb 11:04]
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Because there are never problems with internet banking? People never get scammed or robbed? The internet is inherently unsafe.
What about the money needed to be spent on an app, the money spent running the system and mnitoring it?
The numbers are about opinion but whenever have you agreed with the numbers in Westminster, you are quite happy for England to have fewer Mp's but not Wales?
I'm not mixed up but it seems you are because I agree with Laura and Dafydd on this, closed lists is a terrible idea.
I posted my comments on the commission and pointed out to you that you misunderstood them, I also asked you a question but you never answer questions because you never have the answers without making yourself look silly.
I'll try again, as the commission states that voting for indy would be an act of financial self harm in the short to medium term and given what you said about Brexit how could you vote for it? Uness you are a complete hypocrite obviously. It says there must be change and indy is viable but devo max is far more likely, indy is a pipe dream for the forseeable future.
What happened in NI doesn't mean much besides they found a way to have a government again. NI has to have a referendum and vote for change for their to be change. Your opinion doesn't amount to any more than my opinion. | | | |
| Rats in a sack... on 14:07 - Feb 4 with 1684 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Rats in a sack... on 12:59 - Feb 4 by SullutaCreturned |
Because there are never problems with internet banking? People never get scammed or robbed? The internet is inherently unsafe.
What about the money needed to be spent on an app, the money spent running the system and mnitoring it?
The numbers are about opinion but whenever have you agreed with the numbers in Westminster, you are quite happy for England to have fewer Mp's but not Wales?
I'm not mixed up but it seems you are because I agree with Laura and Dafydd on this, closed lists is a terrible idea.
I posted my comments on the commission and pointed out to you that you misunderstood them, I also asked you a question but you never answer questions because you never have the answers without making yourself look silly.
I'll try again, as the commission states that voting for indy would be an act of financial self harm in the short to medium term and given what you said about Brexit how could you vote for it? Uness you are a complete hypocrite obviously. It says there must be change and indy is viable but devo max is far more likely, indy is a pipe dream for the forseeable future.
What happened in NI doesn't mean much besides they found a way to have a government again. NI has to have a referendum and vote for change for their to be change. Your opinion doesn't amount to any more than my opinion. |
I agree on opinions but you have to look further ahead if you want to see the future.
You simply bat for today.
Today is not going to be the same as tomorrow.
So you are inevitably wrong.
Try this ….
Michelle O’Neil voted in by the people says we have a decade of opportunity.
Mary Lou McDonald could well be the next Taoiseach.
It this situation a Border Poll is inevitable.
Then the people will decide.
If we see a United Ireland ,then what for Scotland and Wales ?
Over 10 years since Scotlands last Indy vote so it will come around again.
The Scots will decide.
Its in that changed situation that i think Indy works for Wales.
Not for now.
Devo max is a realistic aim for now.
Btw the young Welsh people are far more ambitious than me.
If you dont think an electronic system for voting is inevitable then AI is going to rock you good and proper.
You stick with rain, costs, pencils, booths, and shouting at the young. | |
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| Rats in a sack... on 14:41 - Feb 4 with 1676 views | SullutaCreturned |
| Rats in a sack... on 14:07 - Feb 4 by Kilkennyjack |
I agree on opinions but you have to look further ahead if you want to see the future.
You simply bat for today.
Today is not going to be the same as tomorrow.
So you are inevitably wrong.
Try this ….
Michelle O’Neil voted in by the people says we have a decade of opportunity.
Mary Lou McDonald could well be the next Taoiseach.
It this situation a Border Poll is inevitable.
Then the people will decide.
If we see a United Ireland ,then what for Scotland and Wales ?
Over 10 years since Scotlands last Indy vote so it will come around again.
The Scots will decide.
Its in that changed situation that i think Indy works for Wales.
Not for now.
Devo max is a realistic aim for now.
Btw the young Welsh people are far more ambitious than me.
If you dont think an electronic system for voting is inevitable then AI is going to rock you good and proper.
You stick with rain, costs, pencils, booths, and shouting at the young. |
I plan for the future but I live in today. The future with the expanded Senedd will be bad, specially with closed lists.
If you understood history then you would now that very little changes, we still have the rich and powerful dictating the play. The rest of us are just minions who, as we are encouraged to do by the elites, argue amongst ourselves. It makes no difference if we continue to vote along the same lines as always, indy will be worse for Wales because of the "brexit hit" scenario (yet again a question you refuse to answer) but us workers will always be in the same position. In 2000 years humanity hasn't learned a thing.
You vote indy and all you'll get for it is a quicker descent into poverty driven by Welsh Labours ideology.
In the Stormont what they did was purely make the pragmatic choice or the stalemate continued. Even if they chose indy the have the Republic to fall back on. Who would we have? If you think the Celtic nations could band together in some kind of brotherhood then you really are misguidedThe Republic nor Scotland will not want a bankrupt Wales as business partners. The EU won't take us until we are stable and we will have told our nearest neighbours and BIGGEST TRADING PARTNER to get lost.
If Scotland can have another vote in that time then why not a vote on devolution after 25 years?
An enlarged Senedd with closed lists is a scary idea. You can't see it, yo can't see what would come despite your claim to be looking at the future. All you see is some rose tinted version and you cannot think differently despite the evidence.
If you understood history you might see that humanity hasnt changed in over 2000 years, we still make the same mistakes, we still make the same choices depite all the evidence and that is why humans are doomed. We never learn.
Until we start doing things differently, which has to start with different political choices then nothing will change. The rich will continue to get richer as will their political friends, the rest of us will continue to get poorer.
If we went indy in 20 years then 50 years further on all we would have is a wasteland acrsoss Wales with a small group who run the show living in luxury, them and their rich friends.
Young Welsh people will one day be old Welsh people and as people age they usually learn from their experience, their beliefs usually change too, some people never learn though, you are one of those people.
PS, nobody can see the future, anybody who says they can is lying, it's all guess work. Even the best laid plans get changed.
PPS, come on answer the question as per the commission staement, voting indy will make Wales financially worse off, after your brexit statement about only fools choosing that, why would you support it? | | | |
| Rats in a sack... on 15:26 - Feb 4 with 1658 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Rats in a sack... on 14:41 - Feb 4 by SullutaCreturned |
I plan for the future but I live in today. The future with the expanded Senedd will be bad, specially with closed lists.
If you understood history then you would now that very little changes, we still have the rich and powerful dictating the play. The rest of us are just minions who, as we are encouraged to do by the elites, argue amongst ourselves. It makes no difference if we continue to vote along the same lines as always, indy will be worse for Wales because of the "brexit hit" scenario (yet again a question you refuse to answer) but us workers will always be in the same position. In 2000 years humanity hasn't learned a thing.
You vote indy and all you'll get for it is a quicker descent into poverty driven by Welsh Labours ideology.
In the Stormont what they did was purely make the pragmatic choice or the stalemate continued. Even if they chose indy the have the Republic to fall back on. Who would we have? If you think the Celtic nations could band together in some kind of brotherhood then you really are misguidedThe Republic nor Scotland will not want a bankrupt Wales as business partners. The EU won't take us until we are stable and we will have told our nearest neighbours and BIGGEST TRADING PARTNER to get lost.
If Scotland can have another vote in that time then why not a vote on devolution after 25 years?
An enlarged Senedd with closed lists is a scary idea. You can't see it, yo can't see what would come despite your claim to be looking at the future. All you see is some rose tinted version and you cannot think differently despite the evidence.
If you understood history you might see that humanity hasnt changed in over 2000 years, we still make the same mistakes, we still make the same choices depite all the evidence and that is why humans are doomed. We never learn.
Until we start doing things differently, which has to start with different political choices then nothing will change. The rich will continue to get richer as will their political friends, the rest of us will continue to get poorer.
If we went indy in 20 years then 50 years further on all we would have is a wasteland acrsoss Wales with a small group who run the show living in luxury, them and their rich friends.
Young Welsh people will one day be old Welsh people and as people age they usually learn from their experience, their beliefs usually change too, some people never learn though, you are one of those people.
PS, nobody can see the future, anybody who says they can is lying, it's all guess work. Even the best laid plans get changed.
PPS, come on answer the question as per the commission staement, voting indy will make Wales financially worse off, after your brexit statement about only fools choosing that, why would you support it? |
I would not vote for anything that damages the lives of the people of Wales.
Why would anyone ?
We wont face that scenario though.
Ireland is already successful.
A united Ireland will be more successful.
An indy Scotland will be successful.
The uk will be back trading normally with Europe by then as well.
In that situation Indy will be right for Wales.
There is no wasteland scenario.
Whilst all young people get older, they dont share the values of the post war generation. Their political views will not change. Its inevitable Wales will get an Indy vote..
And much quicker than you think. | |
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| Rats in a sack... on 20:21 - Feb 5 with 1576 views | SullutaCreturned |
| Rats in a sack... on 15:26 - Feb 4 by Kilkennyjack |
I would not vote for anything that damages the lives of the people of Wales.
Why would anyone ?
We wont face that scenario though.
Ireland is already successful.
A united Ireland will be more successful.
An indy Scotland will be successful.
The uk will be back trading normally with Europe by then as well.
In that situation Indy will be right for Wales.
There is no wasteland scenario.
Whilst all young people get older, they dont share the values of the post war generation. Their political views will not change. Its inevitable Wales will get an Indy vote..
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Ah so you don't believe Laura McAllister or Rowan then because their conclusion is that indy WILL make Wales worse off in the short to medium term.
yet again everybody can see how much tunnel vision affects your judgement on this. In some posts you are lauding the commission for saying we can have indy yet you wont accept the caveat that it would be immediately bad for Wales and our economy.
You must be from Reading, or somewhere in that "shire" | | | |
| Rats in a sack... on 21:00 - Feb 5 with 1554 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Rats in a sack... on 20:21 - Feb 5 by SullutaCreturned |
Ah so you don't believe Laura McAllister or Rowan then because their conclusion is that indy WILL make Wales worse off in the short to medium term.
yet again everybody can see how much tunnel vision affects your judgement on this. In some posts you are lauding the commission for saying we can have indy yet you wont accept the caveat that it would be immediately bad for Wales and our economy.
You must be from Reading, or somewhere in that "shire" |
Glad you think you speak for everyone …. 🤡…… Message boards dont really give you that hiding place.
So …. post your own view and thats that.
Everything else is just guessing out loud.
Not sure why you cant understand what i have written.
Repeat after me ….. Wales needs Indy when the political and economic conditions are right.
I dont control what Laura and Rowan have to say.
The futures of Scotland and the north of Ireland are going to have influence.
Lets hope they go well. | |
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| Rats in a sack... on 22:39 - Feb 5 with 1547 views | Luther27 |
| Rats in a sack... on 14:07 - Feb 4 by Kilkennyjack |
I agree on opinions but you have to look further ahead if you want to see the future.
You simply bat for today.
Today is not going to be the same as tomorrow.
So you are inevitably wrong.
Try this ….
Michelle O’Neil voted in by the people says we have a decade of opportunity.
Mary Lou McDonald could well be the next Taoiseach.
It this situation a Border Poll is inevitable.
Then the people will decide.
If we see a United Ireland ,then what for Scotland and Wales ?
Over 10 years since Scotlands last Indy vote so it will come around again.
The Scots will decide.
Its in that changed situation that i think Indy works for Wales.
Not for now.
Devo max is a realistic aim for now.
Btw the young Welsh people are far more ambitious than me.
If you dont think an electronic system for voting is inevitable then AI is going to rock you good and proper.
You stick with rain, costs, pencils, booths, and shouting at the young. |
If kids can’t be bothered to get off their arse then they don’t deserve a vote. I’m sick of hearing about online this online that. If voting is so important to you…then register…and go to a polling station. Once there cast your vote in the privacy of a booth where no one can see who you voted for….and where you can’t be “influenced” what party to vote for. | | | |
| Rats in a sack... on 08:48 - Feb 6 with 1498 views | felixstowe_jack |
| Rats in a sack... on 14:07 - Feb 4 by Kilkennyjack |
I agree on opinions but you have to look further ahead if you want to see the future.
You simply bat for today.
Today is not going to be the same as tomorrow.
So you are inevitably wrong.
Try this ….
Michelle O’Neil voted in by the people says we have a decade of opportunity.
Mary Lou McDonald could well be the next Taoiseach.
It this situation a Border Poll is inevitable.
Then the people will decide.
If we see a United Ireland ,then what for Scotland and Wales ?
Over 10 years since Scotlands last Indy vote so it will come around again.
The Scots will decide.
Its in that changed situation that i think Indy works for Wales.
Not for now.
Devo max is a realistic aim for now.
Btw the young Welsh people are far more ambitious than me.
If you dont think an electronic system for voting is inevitable then AI is going to rock you good and proper.
You stick with rain, costs, pencils, booths, and shouting at the young. |
Not sure why you include opinions of those too young to young to vote in you 58% figures.
Latest figures for this aged 18 or over in Wales shows support for independence in Wales is still only 20%
In Scotland support for independence is falling and is now less than it was before the last independence referendum.
This is of course due to the disastrous performance of the SNP and Sturgeon. The Scottish education has been wrecked and Drugs deaths have soared with life expectancy in Glasgow worse than the third world.
The SNP have said the next Greneral election will be a proxy independence referendum and if the SNP get 50% of the votes will prove the Scottish people want independence.
In 2019 the SNP got 45% of the vote will be interesting to see if their vote share goes up or down.
Will be interesting to see if PC increase their 9% share, 2019 general Election, share of the vote in Wales. | |
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