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The 20MPH punishments 08:34 - Aug 3 with 141728 viewsSullutaCreturned

Well the punishment for breaking the limit,

https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/police-confirm-how-punish-drivers-

Given how many idiots are on the roads, the delivery drivers under pressure and the actual difficutly in staying below 20 (it is difficult, I do it every week when I go to Cardiff and it's harder than you'd think, specially going downhill) there will be a lot of speeding going on.

The Senedd expect the fire brigade to become a road safety unit, how stupid is that? The fire brigade have their job and it's hard enough for them to do that the way the Senedd behaves.

Then there's the pollution problem, all those cars tootling around in second gear will fill the streets with pollution, it'll rise and rise and the few accidents stopped by this madness will be replaced tenfold and more in the years to come by serious health issues, those with asthma can look out, better buy your respirators now.

I wonder if cancers will also increase?

By the time we have all gone electric, assuming we all do, thousands of lives will be blighted by illness.
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The 20MPH punishments on 06:45 - Sep 18 with 1940 viewsfelixstowe_jack

The 20MPH punishments on 22:28 - Sep 17 by Whiterockin

There seems to be a lot of defaced 20mph signs around today.


Seems to be a real anger in Wales with this 20 mph nonsense.
Signature have now reached over 40,000 it has doubled in less than a day.

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The 20MPH punishments (n/t) on 07:25 - Sep 18 with 1921 viewsessexswan

The 20MPH punishments on 23:37 - Sep 16 by JackUlation

Or is it to allow some person more time to ogle schoolgirls on their walk to school




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The 20MPH punishments on 10:07 - Sep 18 with 1883 viewsWhiterockin

The 20MPH punishments on 06:45 - Sep 18 by felixstowe_jack

Seems to be a real anger in Wales with this 20 mph nonsense.
Signature have now reached over 40,000 it has doubled in less than a day.


Why is the petition running until March, does this mean there will be no debate until then? There are nearly 48,000 signatures now and rising as you watch, surely enough to have the debate immediately.

https://petitions.senedd.wales/petitions/245548
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The 20MPH punishments on 11:51 - Sep 18 with 1846 viewsWingstandwood

I have now read quite a few sarcastic comments online with people thanking the Welsh government for introducing a speed limit that'll mean that they will be constantly looking at their speedometer instead of the road.

And this thing about speed bumps just before a pedestrian crossing/traffic lights? Drivers more focused looking down as opposed to up where the actual red light and crossing children are?

Argus!

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The 20MPH punishments on 12:33 - Sep 18 with 1817 viewsfelixstowe_jack

The 20MPH punishments on 10:07 - Sep 18 by Whiterockin

Why is the petition running until March, does this mean there will be no debate until then? There are nearly 48,000 signatures now and rising as you watch, surely enough to have the debate immediately.

https://petitions.senedd.wales/petitions/245548


Up to 54000 now.

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The 20MPH punishments on 15:22 - Sep 18 with 1726 viewsWhiterockin

The 20MPH punishments on 12:33 - Sep 18 by felixstowe_jack

Up to 54000 now.


65,000 now, this could top 100,000.

The largest ever Senedd petition had 67,940 signatures.
[Post edited 18 Sep 2023 15:27]
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The 20MPH punishments on 15:42 - Sep 18 with 1699 viewsSullutaCreturned

The 20MPH punishments on 15:22 - Sep 18 by Whiterockin

65,000 now, this could top 100,000.

The largest ever Senedd petition had 67,940 signatures.
[Post edited 18 Sep 2023 15:27]


66,916 2 mins ago, it's flying up.

I did a call less in work today, the slower travelling time really had an impact.

What also didn't help was when I got on the Pontardawe bypass which a 40 limit, there was a queue and I assume the person at the front was doing the same 23mph I was.
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The 20MPH punishments on 15:55 - Sep 18 with 1684 viewsWhiterockin

The 20MPH punishments on 15:42 - Sep 18 by SullutaCreturned

66,916 2 mins ago, it's flying up.

I did a call less in work today, the slower travelling time really had an impact.

What also didn't help was when I got on the Pontardawe bypass which a 40 limit, there was a queue and I assume the person at the front was doing the same 23mph I was.


It's hard to believe that people did not understand the carnage this will cause until today.
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The 20MPH punishments on 16:00 - Sep 18 with 1657 viewsGwyn737

Any truth to this?

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The 20MPH punishments on 16:03 - Sep 18 with 1640 viewsWingstandwood

The 20MPH punishments on 16:00 - Sep 18 by Gwyn737

Any truth to this?



Aye just as thick as the rest of them they were!

Argus!

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The 20MPH punishments on 16:09 - Sep 18 with 1625 viewsWhiterockin

The 20MPH punishments on 16:00 - Sep 18 by Gwyn737

Any truth to this?



Gwyn you know me I'm not for any political party, but this needs to change. 20mph in selected areas like schools but not to the extent it is now. 20mph means some people drive at 15mph because they are scared to get booked. In Swansea we have stretches covering a couple of miles that are 20mph.
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The 20MPH punishments on 16:26 - Sep 18 with 1580 viewsGwyn737

The 20MPH punishments on 16:09 - Sep 18 by Whiterockin

Gwyn you know me I'm not for any political party, but this needs to change. 20mph in selected areas like schools but not to the extent it is now. 20mph means some people drive at 15mph because they are scared to get booked. In Swansea we have stretches covering a couple of miles that are 20mph.


I agree, mate. It seems mad to me.

Being away from it I tend not to comment on Welsh politics, just thought it was an interesting angle when apportioning blame (if true).
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The 20MPH punishments on 16:30 - Sep 18 with 1566 viewsJACKMANANDBOY

The 20MPH punishments on 15:42 - Sep 18 by SullutaCreturned

66,916 2 mins ago, it's flying up.

I did a call less in work today, the slower travelling time really had an impact.

What also didn't help was when I got on the Pontardawe bypass which a 40 limit, there was a queue and I assume the person at the front was doing the same 23mph I was.


Yes, getting out of Swansea this afternoon was very slow people doing 20 in 40 zones!

Just wait for Friday's traffic
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The 20MPH punishments on 17:02 - Sep 18 with 1528 viewsSullutaCreturned

74,252, people are getting home from work and having their say.
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The 20MPH punishments on 17:15 - Sep 18 with 1512 viewsJACKMANANDBOY

The 20MPH punishments on 17:02 - Sep 18 by SullutaCreturned

74,252, people are getting home from work and having their say.


I don't think they are home yet.

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The 20MPH punishments on 17:31 - Sep 18 with 1501 viewsWhiterockin

The 20MPH punishments on 17:02 - Sep 18 by SullutaCreturned

74,252, people are getting home from work and having their say.


If it cracks 100,000 that's nearly 10% of the total turnout at the last Senedd elections.
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The 20MPH punishments on 19:14 - Sep 18 with 1436 viewslifelong

There’s a number of 20mph zones in the Gorseinon and Loughor area before these measures were introduced. Been driving around the area today and haven’t noticed much difference to what it normally was before the new measures.
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The 20MPH punishments on 20:43 - Sep 18 with 1369 viewsfelixstowe_jack

The 20MPH punishments on 17:31 - Sep 18 by Whiterockin

If it cracks 100,000 that's nearly 10% of the total turnout at the last Senedd elections.


Over 100,000 signatures at the moment an increase of 60,000 in less than 12 hours.

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The 20MPH punishments on 20:48 - Sep 18 with 1368 viewsWhiterockin

The petition has hit 100,000 a massive number. When it goes over 110,000 which it will in the next couple of hours it will be more than 10% of the total number of votes cast for all parties at the last Senedd elections.

I believe this not just about the 20mph speed limit but a protest signal to the Senedd not to take us for granted, you are answerable to us, you cannot just do what you want.

If the Senedd try to brush this under the carpet and try to ignore it they do so at their peril. The dissatisfaction in Wales is growing and if they ignore it, they could lose everything. Don't be surprised if the next petition is about increasing the Senedd numbers.
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The 20MPH punishments on 21:01 - Sep 18 with 1336 viewslifelong

The 20MPH punishments on 20:43 - Sep 18 by felixstowe_jack

Over 100,000 signatures at the moment an increase of 60,000 in less than 12 hours.


Don’t they have 20mph speed limits in large areas of London!
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The 20MPH punishments on 21:06 - Sep 18 with 1325 viewsWhiterockin

The 20MPH punishments on 21:01 - Sep 18 by lifelong

Don’t they have 20mph speed limits in large areas of London!


Yes where you can't get up to 20mph.
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The 20MPH punishments on 21:38 - Sep 18 with 1286 viewslifelong

The 20MPH punishments on 21:06 - Sep 18 by Whiterockin

Yes where you can't get up to 20mph.


Really?
Is that why Londoners are furious about it?
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The 20MPH punishments on 21:41 - Sep 18 with 1277 viewslifelong

https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&
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The 20MPH punishments on 21:50 - Sep 18 with 1253 viewslifelong

Some interesting data since the 20mph limit was introduced in London.
https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&
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The 20MPH punishments on 21:51 - Sep 18 with 1253 viewsWhiterockin

The 20MPH punishments on 21:38 - Sep 18 by lifelong

Really?
Is that why Londoners are furious about it?


Tbh I have no interest in London. Over 110,000 now signed the petition, as I said earlier it's not all about the 20mph speed limit.
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