| The 20MPH punishments 08:34 - Aug 3 with 141616 views | SullutaCreturned |
Well the punishment for breaking the limit,
https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/police-confirm-how-punish-drivers-
Given how many idiots are on the roads, the delivery drivers under pressure and the actual difficutly in staying below 20 (it is difficult, I do it every week when I go to Cardiff and it's harder than you'd think, specially going downhill) there will be a lot of speeding going on.
The Senedd expect the fire brigade to become a road safety unit, how stupid is that? The fire brigade have their job and it's hard enough for them to do that the way the Senedd behaves.
Then there's the pollution problem, all those cars tootling around in second gear will fill the streets with pollution, it'll rise and rise and the few accidents stopped by this madness will be replaced tenfold and more in the years to come by serious health issues, those with asthma can look out, better buy your respirators now.
I wonder if cancers will also increase?
By the time we have all gone electric, assuming we all do, thousands of lives will be blighted by illness. |  | | |  |
| The 20MPH punishments on 10:42 - Aug 23 with 920 views | onehunglow |
| The 20MPH punishments on 09:41 - Aug 23 by felixstowe_jack |
Looks like the tour of Wales cycle race has decended into farce this year. The route has been changed and shortened to avoid any section that has a 20mph limit. The 20mph limit does not apply to cyclist but does apply to all the support vehicles which cannot keep up with the cyclist. It even prevents the police motorbikes from doing their job of closing roads ahead of the race and opening them after the race has passed . The police motorbikes could not overtake the cyclist in 20 mph zones. |
Don't be slagging off Wales mun | |
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| The 20MPH punishments on 15:33 - Dec 23 with 641 views | Boundy |
You couldn't make this up , " The Welsh Government has praised Wrexham Council for becoming the second local authority in Wales to begin the process of reverting selected 20mph roads back to 30mph limits.
Cabinet Secretary for Transport and North Wales, Ken Skates, visited Wrexham on December 13 to review progress on the council's speed limit change.
The expected £9 billion lost to the Welsh economy + the millions to implement the changes all forgotten .
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/local-authority-receives-praise-for-return | |
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| The 20MPH punishments on 15:36 - Dec 23 with 632 views | union_jack |
| The 20MPH punishments on 15:33 - Dec 23 by Boundy |
You couldn't make this up , " The Welsh Government has praised Wrexham Council for becoming the second local authority in Wales to begin the process of reverting selected 20mph roads back to 30mph limits.
Cabinet Secretary for Transport and North Wales, Ken Skates, visited Wrexham on December 13 to review progress on the council's speed limit change.
The expected £9 billion lost to the Welsh economy + the millions to implement the changes all forgotten .
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/local-authority-receives-praise-for-return |
Votes, votes, votes. They’re going to need them as well. |  |
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| The 20MPH punishments on 16:03 - Dec 23 with 604 views | pencoedjack |
| The 20MPH punishments on 15:36 - Dec 23 by union_jack |
Votes, votes, votes. They’re going to need them as well. |
The reversal should be done by those in the Senedd leaving 20 mph zones outside schools & hospitals.
They were quick enough to waste our money putting it in; they should reverse it without councils having to apply. Let's hope they didn't throw the 30 signs out; otherwise, that would cost us even more money. |  | | |
| The 20MPH punishments on 16:24 - Dec 23 with 567 views | onehunglow |
| The 20MPH punishments on 15:33 - Dec 23 by Boundy |
You couldn't make this up , " The Welsh Government has praised Wrexham Council for becoming the second local authority in Wales to begin the process of reverting selected 20mph roads back to 30mph limits.
Cabinet Secretary for Transport and North Wales, Ken Skates, visited Wrexham on December 13 to review progress on the council's speed limit change.
The expected £9 billion lost to the Welsh economy + the millions to implement the changes all forgotten .
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/local-authority-receives-praise-for-return |
It being the most anglicised part of Wales ,it should also rip up the bilingual signs after renaming places like New Brighton ( near Mold) then scrap the compulsory welsh speaking for jobs | |
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| The 20MPH punishments on 16:37 - Dec 23 with 551 views | lifelong |
When I saw this thread reappear I thought it might have been to praise the Welsh Government for saving lives this past 15 months.. how silly of me. |  | | |
| The 20MPH punishments on 18:17 - Dec 23 with 512 views | onehunglow |
New Brightonnis a village near the England border .
It’s been given a welsh name
It’s never been known as a welsh village and little welsh spoken there .
It’s mainly a commuter village for those working in Chester and England ,as is the case with many villages in Fllint Fflint Flint .
Utter madness | |
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| The 20MPH punishments on 13:33 - Dec 24 with 413 views | felixstowe_jack |
| The 20MPH punishments on 16:37 - Dec 23 by lifelong |
When I saw this thread reappear I thought it might have been to praise the Welsh Government for saving lives this past 15 months.. how silly of me. |
Have they actually saved any. Road deaths in Wales up this year. | |
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| The 20MPH punishments on 14:19 - Dec 24 with 400 views | Boundy |
| The 20MPH punishments on 13:33 - Dec 24 by felixstowe_jack |
Have they actually saved any. Road deaths in Wales up this year. |
A valid point ,one which should be answered . | |
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| The 20MPH punishments on 14:25 - Dec 24 with 387 views | Flashberryjack |
| The 20MPH punishments on 14:19 - Dec 24 by Boundy |
A valid point ,one which should be answered . |
I'm sure they can twist data to come up with any answer that suits them. |  |
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| The 20MPH punishments on 17:11 - Dec 24 with 339 views | JACKMANANDBOY |
| The 20MPH punishments on 13:33 - Dec 24 by felixstowe_jack |
Have they actually saved any. Road deaths in Wales up this year. |
They combine the 20mph and 30mph when publishing data. So we don't really know. |  |
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| The 20MPH punishments on 17:47 - Dec 24 with 309 views | SullutaCreturned |
| The 20MPH punishments on 17:11 - Dec 24 by JACKMANANDBOY |
They combine the 20mph and 30mph when publishing data. So we don't really know. |
And why do they do that? Maybe because it makes it easier to "adjust" data and give the "right" results.
My by now deeply ingrained cynicism towards all things politic may be showing through  | | | |
| The 20MPH punishments on 18:26 - Dec 24 with 295 views | JACKMANANDBOY |
| The 20MPH punishments on 17:47 - Dec 24 by SullutaCreturned |
And why do they do that? Maybe because it makes it easier to "adjust" data and give the "right" results.
My by now deeply ingrained cynicism towards all things politic may be showing through |
To quote Drakeford " let's hope they don't notice". | |
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| The 20MPH punishments on 18:36 - Dec 24 with 288 views | SullutaCreturned |
| The 20MPH punishments on 16:37 - Dec 23 by lifelong |
When I saw this thread reappear I thought it might have been to praise the Welsh Government for saving lives this past 15 months.. how silly of me. |
Well complaint still is about the shoddy way they handled the whole thing and wasted millions doing so, obviously if they saved lives it's a good thing but I've yet to see the evidence.
I have noticed quite a few deaths on Welsh roads since this though so I'd really like to know. | | | |
| The 20MPH punishments on 20:36 - Dec 24 with 257 views | onehunglow |
| The 20MPH punishments on 18:36 - Dec 24 by SullutaCreturned |
Well complaint still is about the shoddy way they handled the whole thing and wasted millions doing so, obviously if they saved lives it's a good thing but I've yet to see the evidence.
I have noticed quite a few deaths on Welsh roads since this though so I'd really like to know. |
What hasn’t changed are the cretins using a phone whilst driving including their little darlings to school as they can’t walk 400 yds without being traumatised
We also have tgisands of dopers driving and drinks too ,not to mention no insurance teats | |
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| The 20MPH punishments on 08:17 - Dec 25 with 170 views | Boundy |
| The 20MPH punishments on 20:36 - Dec 24 by onehunglow |
What hasn’t changed are the cretins using a phone whilst driving including their little darlings to school as they can’t walk 400 yds without being traumatised
We also have tgisands of dopers driving and drinks too ,not to mention no insurance teats |
Weed every where , and its blowing in the wind and which is now a common occurrence taken as being an acceptable part of society .Same old story though not enough traffic cops to carry out random stops, all I see are plenty of high performance ,high value BMW estate cars lights a flashing and horns ah horning speeding through stooped traffic on their way to somewhere m but where. | |
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| The 20MPH punishments on 14:44 - Dec 25 with 79 views | union_jack |
| The 20MPH punishments on 08:17 - Dec 25 by Boundy |
Weed every where , and its blowing in the wind and which is now a common occurrence taken as being an acceptable part of society .Same old story though not enough traffic cops to carry out random stops, all I see are plenty of high performance ,high value BMW estate cars lights a flashing and horns ah horning speeding through stooped traffic on their way to somewhere m but where. |
With plenty of high drivers!
You’re right, it’s becoming the norm and people talking of legitimising cannabis are off their round ones. It’s so damaging to mental health it should be banned ( and I know the implications of that). | |
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