| Is this really "exciting football"? 17:32 - Dec 4 with 11611 views | DwightYorkeSuperstar |
Once again, our possession of the ball was more than double that of our opponents.
Yet, once again, we only just managed to convert our colossal domination of the ball into more attacks than our opponents
From 67% possession, we yielded just 113 attacks. Yet, from just 33% possession, Middlesbrough yielded 104 attacks.
We had 103% more possession of the ball, yet attempted only 9% more attacks throughout the game. That's scandalous and certainly isn't "exciting football" in my opinion.
It is little wonder we have so many clean sheets despite having such a nonsensical defensive approach. Imagine how many more attacks teams would achieve against us if we weren't aimlessly keeping possession amongst our 5 centre backs for a significant portion of the match.
This isn't exciting football. Too many Swansea City supporters equate possession with "exciting football". I'm hesitant to use the word brainwashed, but some supporters have certainly been conditioned to think this way. [Post edited 4 Dec 2021 17:33]
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| Is this really "exciting football"? on 17:35 - Dec 4 with 3941 views | onehunglow |
Cameron Tosh was crowing about how many passes we made today.
No points for passing Cam. |  |
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| Is this really "exciting football"? on 18:28 - Dec 4 with 3867 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| Is this really "exciting football"? on 17:35 - Dec 4 by onehunglow |
Cameron Tosh was crowing about how many passes we made today.
No points for passing Cam. |
Anything is better than low quality trumpeter Wyndham. |  |
| Wise sage since Toshack era |
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| Is this really "exciting football"? on 19:16 - Dec 4 with 3807 views | max936 |
| Is this really "exciting football"? on 18:28 - Dec 4 by ReslovenSwan1 |
Anything is better than low quality trumpeter Wyndham. |
Wyndham got passion for Swans. I'd rather hear/listen to him than some bland passionless oaf. |  |
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| Is this really "exciting football"? on 19:56 - Dec 4 with 3757 views | onehunglow |
Cam is blander than bland made worse by the fact he wont say it as it is. | |
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| Is this really "exciting football"? on 20:33 - Dec 4 with 3720 views | Fireboy2 |
Did you go?
Of course you didn't, you don't even go to home games, I bet you are gutted that you can't see your beloved yernited anymore  |  | | |
| Is this really "exciting football"? on 20:41 - Dec 4 with 3711 views | PatchesOHoulihan |
It was never about passing football when we wanted the change from cooper. It was about being a threat to the other team
Sadly at the moment sometimes we are and sometimes we’re not no matter whether we play short or long balls.
We need to be better next time, the signs are there that we can be, we just need to be better next time. |  |
| This is Patches O'Houlihan saying "Take care of your balls, and they'll take care of you." |
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| Is this really "exciting football"? on 20:44 - Dec 4 with 3708 views | Catullus |
| Is this really "exciting football"? on 20:33 - Dec 4 by Fireboy2 |
Did you go?
Of course you didn't, you don't even go to home games, I bet you are gutted that you can't see your beloved yernited anymore |
I find it hysterical that 2 posters on here who moan a lot about the club both have usernames of unconnected players, both Manyoo players.
I think they are on the wrong forum. Real Swansea fans, if choosing a player to base their names on would do a "Flynnidine" or choose Curt, Robbie, Ante, Trundle, Leon etc. | |
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| Is this really "exciting football"? on 20:49 - Dec 4 with 3699 views | Brynmill_Jack |
It isn’t and that’s because our captain forces us more or less to play at walking speed and either passes to players whom are already under pressure or just backwards . |  |
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| Is this really "exciting football"? on 21:03 - Dec 4 with 3684 views | Catullus |
| Is this really "exciting football"? on 20:49 - Dec 4 by Brynmill_Jack |
It isn’t and that’s because our captain forces us more or less to play at walking speed and either passes to players whom are already under pressure or just backwards . |
Maybe it's time to play Downes, Smith and Ntcham?
I wonder if it's coincidence that Grimes was playing much better until he signed his new contract? | |
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| Is this really "exciting football"? on 21:33 - Dec 4 with 3656 views | Fireboy2 |
| Is this really "exciting football"? on 20:44 - Dec 4 by Catullus |
I find it hysterical that 2 posters on here who moan a lot about the club both have usernames of unconnected players, both Manyoo players.
I think they are on the wrong forum. Real Swansea fans, if choosing a player to base their names on would do a "Flynnidine" or choose Curt, Robbie, Ante, Trundle, Leon etc. |
Cat the people I met at the game today are gold, travelling over 320 miles and spending over 12 hrs on a bus, they are legend to me, whereas the trolls are lower than a snakes belly. | | | |
| Is this really "exciting football"? on 21:41 - Dec 4 with 3643 views | onehunglow |
| Is this really "exciting football"? on 21:33 - Dec 4 by Fireboy2 |
Cat the people I met at the game today are gold, travelling over 320 miles and spending over 12 hrs on a bus, they are legend to me, whereas the trolls are lower than a snakes belly. |
Maybe they have no committments or are simply sick of the crap Martin puts out.
Why don't you simply be honest and quit the internet posing drivel .
If you are happy to go to a game then fine,others have a perfect right not to and they are just as decent a person as you might be.
Im hoping you let Martin know how you feel at the end of the game. | |
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| Is this really "exciting football"? on 21:46 - Dec 4 with 3640 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| Is this really "exciting football"? on 20:41 - Dec 4 by PatchesOHoulihan |
It was never about passing football when we wanted the change from cooper. It was about being a threat to the other team
Sadly at the moment sometimes we are and sometimes we’re not no matter whether we play short or long balls.
We need to be better next time, the signs are there that we can be, we just need to be better next time. |
But we are now far less of a threat to the opposition. |  |
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| Is this really "exciting football"? on 21:54 - Dec 4 with 3622 views | builthjack |
Martin wasn't brought in to get instant success. He is a low budget manager, and it will take him another couple of windows to get it anywhere near right.
Did people really think he could click his fingers and make if happen with the squad he has? No chance. |  |
| Swansea Indepenent Poster Of The Year 2021. Dr P / Mart66 / Roathie / Parlay / E20/ Duffle was 2nd, but he is deluded and thinks in his little twisted brain that he won. Poor sod. We let him win this year, as he has cried for a whole year. His 14 usernames, bless his cotton socks.
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| Is this really "exciting football"? on 22:01 - Dec 4 with 3620 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| Is this really "exciting football"? on 21:54 - Dec 4 by builthjack |
Martin wasn't brought in to get instant success. He is a low budget manager, and it will take him another couple of windows to get it anywhere near right.
Did people really think he could click his fingers and make if happen with the squad he has? No chance. |
10 games we were told.
It’s now nearly Xmas after spending more money in this season than 99% of our football league seasons previously.
I see no reason why we wouldn’t be performing well with the squad we have. 21 league games is hardly “a click of the fingers”, that’s plenty of time to have learned from mistakes and worked on a sustainable way to play.
Loads of managers whole reigns were less than 21 games. | |
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| Is this really "exciting football"? on 22:03 - Dec 4 with 3620 views | onehunglow |
| Is this really "exciting football"? on 22:01 - Dec 4 by Dr_Parnassus |
10 games we were told.
It’s now nearly Xmas after spending more money in this season than 99% of our football league seasons previously.
I see no reason why we wouldn’t be performing well with the squad we have. 21 league games is hardly “a click of the fingers”, that’s plenty of time to have learned from mistakes and worked on a sustainable way to play.
Loads of managers whole reigns were less than 21 games. |
It is what is really grinding my gears
Martin was and continues to make excuses and never accepts blame himself.
It is staggering | |
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| Is this really "exciting football"? on 22:09 - Dec 4 with 3607 views | builthjack |
| Is this really "exciting football"? on 22:01 - Dec 4 by Dr_Parnassus |
10 games we were told.
It’s now nearly Xmas after spending more money in this season than 99% of our football league seasons previously.
I see no reason why we wouldn’t be performing well with the squad we have. 21 league games is hardly “a click of the fingers”, that’s plenty of time to have learned from mistakes and worked on a sustainable way to play.
Loads of managers whole reigns were less than 21 games. |
Who told you 10 games? | |
| Swansea Indepenent Poster Of The Year 2021. Dr P / Mart66 / Roathie / Parlay / E20/ Duffle was 2nd, but he is deluded and thinks in his little twisted brain that he won. Poor sod. We let him win this year, as he has cried for a whole year. His 14 usernames, bless his cotton socks.
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| Is this really "exciting football"? on 22:13 - Dec 4 with 3605 views | Dr_Parnassus |
Goal attempts under Cooper after 21 games (an average between season 1 and 2) - 251
Goal attempts under Martin after 21 games - 211
16% drop from a manager that was widely criticised for his lack of attacking intent. | |
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| Is this really "exciting football"? on 22:30 - Dec 4 with 3584 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| Is this really "exciting football"? on 22:09 - Dec 4 by builthjack |
Who told you 10 games? |
Seemed to be the mantra on here didn’t it?
“Give him 10 games”. | |
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| Is this really "exciting football"? on 22:43 - Dec 4 with 3566 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| Is this really "exciting football"? on 22:30 - Dec 4 by Dr_Parnassus |
Seemed to be the mantra on here didn’t it?
“Give him 10 games”. |
My assessment was to compare the two managers after the first 12 games of the season. Both managers had had time to get their methods across. Both were level with 12 games and 14 points.
This assessment removes Martins excuse that his system needed more time and more fitness. He About 2 month grace to get it right. | |
| Wise sage since Toshack era |
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| Is this really "exciting football"? on 22:46 - Dec 4 with 3554 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| Is this really "exciting football"? on 22:43 - Dec 4 by ReslovenSwan1 |
My assessment was to compare the two managers after the first 12 games of the season. Both managers had had time to get their methods across. Both were level with 12 games and 14 points.
This assessment removes Martins excuse that his system needed more time and more fitness. He About 2 month grace to get it right. |
Yeah we already discussed that flawed logic.
Martin started extremely slowly, Cooper as always started like a house on fire.
In order to bring them closer together you decided to remove Coopers good start and Martin’s bad start.
Unfortunately reality doesn’t work so conveniently. | |
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| Is this really "exciting football"? on 22:48 - Dec 4 with 3554 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| Is this really "exciting football"? on 22:46 - Dec 4 by Dr_Parnassus |
Yeah we already discussed that flawed logic.
Martin started extremely slowly, Cooper as always started like a house on fire.
In order to bring them closer together you decided to remove Coopers good start and Martin’s bad start.
Unfortunately reality doesn’t work so conveniently. |
It is 2 games more than the notional 10 games suggested. | |
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| Is this really "exciting football"? on 00:11 - Dec 5 with 3492 views | AndyCole |
An excellent thread, one which will fly over the heads of the unthinking.
The last couple of games are a wake up call for the sheepists.
Plan A crept back in, our senior players did their best to bounce back with some semblance of a Plan B but Martin poured cold water on that.
The 5 CBs is just bonkers, especially when 2 of those are our 2 CMs - when chasing the game again against a shite team. Two games in succession and the stupidest tactics redeployed by a floundering, flapping management team.
This muddled management is anathema to those of us who are accustomed to and expect Top quartile performances and results, something Cooper delivered in spades.
A few of us are tamping that we are mid-bottom in the second tier. A few of us have high standards of achievement and thus high expectations. Martin is failing on all counts. Embarrassingly so when he discounts our winning Plan B formula, largely founded upon Cooper's effective winning system, inculcated into our senior players.
Time to deliver, Martine, this is simply not good enough for proper fans with proper expectations.
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| Is this really "exciting football"? on 04:47 - Dec 5 with 3439 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Is this really "exciting football"? on 00:11 - Dec 5 by AndyCole |
An excellent thread, one which will fly over the heads of the unthinking.
The last couple of games are a wake up call for the sheepists.
Plan A crept back in, our senior players did their best to bounce back with some semblance of a Plan B but Martin poured cold water on that.
The 5 CBs is just bonkers, especially when 2 of those are our 2 CMs - when chasing the game again against a shite team. Two games in succession and the stupidest tactics redeployed by a floundering, flapping management team.
This muddled management is anathema to those of us who are accustomed to and expect Top quartile performances and results, something Cooper delivered in spades.
A few of us are tamping that we are mid-bottom in the second tier. A few of us have high standards of achievement and thus high expectations. Martin is failing on all counts. Embarrassingly so when he discounts our winning Plan B formula, largely founded upon Cooper's effective winning system, inculcated into our senior players.
Time to deliver, Martine, this is simply not good enough for proper fans with proper expectations.
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The war cry for our hard of thinking, maybe ?
‘Time to deliver ,Martine, ….. ‘ ☹ï¸
Maybe stick it on a Union Jack ? |  |
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| Is this really "exciting football"? on 06:53 - Dec 5 with 3418 views | Fireboy2 |
| Is this really "exciting football"? on 00:11 - Dec 5 by AndyCole |
An excellent thread, one which will fly over the heads of the unthinking.
The last couple of games are a wake up call for the sheepists.
Plan A crept back in, our senior players did their best to bounce back with some semblance of a Plan B but Martin poured cold water on that.
The 5 CBs is just bonkers, especially when 2 of those are our 2 CMs - when chasing the game again against a shite team. Two games in succession and the stupidest tactics redeployed by a floundering, flapping management team.
This muddled management is anathema to those of us who are accustomed to and expect Top quartile performances and results, something Cooper delivered in spades.
A few of us are tamping that we are mid-bottom in the second tier. A few of us have high standards of achievement and thus high expectations. Martin is failing on all counts. Embarrassingly so when he discounts our winning Plan B formula, largely founded upon Cooper's effective winning system, inculcated into our senior players.
Time to deliver, Martine, this is simply not good enough for proper fans with proper expectations.
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Well you definitely are not a proper fan, it's easy flinging mud from your keyboard, perhaps you would get a bit of kudos if you actually went to games. | | | |
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