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Sorry we can’t bring any more than this at the moment, but it’s only fair we place on record we are told the club are about to make an announcement. It would be wrong to speculate any further at this time.
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He didn’t use him much because he sadly wasn’t very good. He went to Coventry after us who also didn’t play him very much. 7 starts.
Signing two players which were more wide attackers (Arriola more a right back that “can” play there) was never likely to be a good idea. Especially with one of them barely kicking a ball after a serious injury.
They had time to prepare for the recruitment in that position, I’m sure they didn’t only start to look the second the window opened and if they did that’s another reason for concern.
I think the club did let Cooper down, managers need backing both pre season and in January. When it was clear the loan of Gyokeres wasn’t good enough, the club had a duty to provide another in such a vital part of the season.
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He wanted a number 9 and had one. Cooper wanted an elite no 9 like Brewster. Sorry about this but Brewster worth £23m do not grow on trees on loan. Obafemi might be close but he got crocked.
Cooper might have told Scott find me Brewster mark2 in our budget. Sorry mate this is not the world I live in. Troy Parrot not good enough. Piggot not good enough, Goykers not good enough, Sam Surridge not good enough, Peterson not good enough, Mullin (Cambridge) not good enough.
"Not out there sorry Steve. Troy was the best we came up with but he wants to stay in L London". Jason can get you 2 x US international fit but a bit rusty . Both are good goalscorers. Morris has serious gas and Arriolla is super energetic and will both give 100%.
Swansea is not Man city and Swansea gave Cooper the best over his 2 year period. Morgan Gibbs White Crocked, Obafemi crocked, Morris crocked. its just bad luck. No point crying over spilt milk.
"if only we had that number 9". "Yankees let him down". Not having it.
Pep Guariola "I would have won the champions leagues if we had signed Harry Kane". [Post edited 23 Jul 2021 14:59]
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Your first paragraph is bizarre even by your own standards. Hacking someones account and publicly letting them know you’ve had access to their password, private messages or could have posted as them is insidious and belittling. It’s comparable to breaking into their house and not stealing anything. Rubbing someones hair is not comparable to invading Iraq.
Yes I have said that several times, I believed it to be true and still do. It’s not a swipe, it’s what I think happened.
I meant can you give me the whole post and the one I was replying to when I said ‘I’m not as against Cooper as some are’. |
This is getting stranger by the second, I can only assume you are feeling the heat. I guessed someone’s password to add a swan into their avatar ten years ago as a joke. You have been banging on about it for about ten posts now. Sorry you didn’t like it, I found it funny though. Get over it, It’s boring.
Now back to the discussion.
You cannot “think” it happened because you know full well that is not how managerial appointments work. He doesn’t head off to London like one of the three little pigs with a lunch box and a coat looking for jobs handing out his CV hoping to get one.
You are intentionally trying to belittle him. It’s wrong and it’s horrendous.
Fulham and Palace were reported to have approached him and he is reported to have spoken to Palace who were put off by the fee we asked. Fulham then also didn’t want to peruse it for that same reason. Show me one single report backing your version of events. Or indeed how you came to such a unique and wild conclusion.
You are tying yourself in knots forgetting what you have said which contradicts what you are saying now, because you are trying to get out of things you have represented fraudulently. [Post edited 23 Jul 2021 15:09]
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He wanted a number 9 and had one. Cooper wanted an elite no 9 like Brewster. Sorry about this but Brewster worth £23m do not grow on trees on loan. Obafemi might be close but he got crocked.
Cooper might have told Scott find me Brewster mark2 in our budget. Sorry mate this is not the world I live in. Troy Parrot not good enough. Piggot not good enough, Goykers not good enough, Sam Surridge not good enough, Peterson not good enough, Mullin (Cambridge) not good enough.
"Not out there sorry Steve. Troy was the best we came up with but he wants to stay in L London". Jason can get you 2 x US international fit but a bit rusty . Both are good goalscorers. Morris has serious gas and Arriolla is super energetic and will both give 100%.
Swansea is not Man city and Swansea gave Cooper the best over his 2 year period. Morgan Gibbs White Crocked, Obafemi crocked, Morris crocked. its just bad luck. No point crying over spilt milk.
"if only we had that number 9". "Yankees let him down". Not having it.
Pep Guariola "I would have won the champions leagues if we had signed Harry Kane". [Post edited 23 Jul 2021 14:59]
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He didn’t just want someone “who was a striker” he wanted someone good enough to play the role. If he wanted a keeper and got given someone from the U-16’s blind team, it would be accurate to say “he wanted a keeper and he got one” but it doesn’t really represent the reality.
We needed a quality striker in January capable of playing the role required. We ended up with two right backs, a goalkeeper and an injury prone wide forward in his off season. | |
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| Club announcement pending on 14:57 - Jul 23 by ReslovenSwan1 |
He wanted a number 9 and had one. Cooper wanted an elite no 9 like Brewster. Sorry about this but Brewster worth £23m do not grow on trees on loan. Obafemi might be close but he got crocked.
Cooper might have told Scott find me Brewster mark2 in our budget. Sorry mate this is not the world I live in. Troy Parrot not good enough. Piggot not good enough, Goykers not good enough, Sam Surridge not good enough, Peterson not good enough, Mullin (Cambridge) not good enough.
"Not out there sorry Steve. Troy was the best we came up with but he wants to stay in L London". Jason can get you 2 x US international fit but a bit rusty . Both are good goalscorers. Morris has serious gas and Arriolla is super energetic and will both give 100%.
Swansea is not Man city and Swansea gave Cooper the best over his 2 year period. Morgan Gibbs White Crocked, Obafemi crocked, Morris crocked. its just bad luck. No point crying over spilt milk.
"if only we had that number 9". "Yankees let him down". Not having it.
Pep Guariola "I would have won the champions leagues if we had signed Harry Kane". [Post edited 23 Jul 2021 14:59]
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keep digging....,I hope they are paqying you well.....you obviously havent read that article Ill post the link again and include a quote which discusses the the no9 situation and what really is the crux of the issue the Yanks interfering in football matters
https://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/andy-scott-interview-
"Having only discovered the full details of Brexit work permit regulations weeks before the recent January transfer window, the club's transfer plans were plunged into chaos.
Lists of targets were altered while some of those identified had to be ruled out when it came to the prospect of a move to SA1.
And then came the crushing news of Michael Obafemi's injury - a blow Scott was alerted to just a day before the Southampton striker was poised to travel to Swansea to complete a loan switch from the Saints.
"Michael Obafemi was one we had lined up. We felt he fitted the profile we wanted, and the day before he came in he has an unfortunate injury so it changes what you do," explained Scott.
"Everyone was looking for a loan striker because they haven't got the money to buy someone. Squads are bigger because of Covid and centre-forward is always a position where everyone wants to collect as many as possible.
"It was a horrible phone call when I got that from the agent about him needing an operation on his injury. But we had to look at our list again, and we've got a number of players on our list, but we didn't know if we'd be able to get them or not."
Injuries suffered by Cullen and Wayne Routledge during the 5-1 FA Cup fourth round win over Nottingham Forest intensified the need for Swansea to add firepower to their ranks.
And it was an unfortunate situation in the homeland of Swansea's majority owners that ultimately came to the club's rescue.
Morris was identified as a player who could boost Swansea's promotion hopes given his qualities while his USMNT team-mate Arriola was also brought in to bolster Cooper's attacking options.
"The ownership group were really good with information we were getting from MLS," explained Scott.
"It was a perfect storm really that MLS has deferred their season for a bit longer, which meant their players were doing nothing really for six months for the rest of our season. It was a good opportunity to get players that we probably wouldn't have been able to afford or get in previous windows for this window.
"Jordan, we did a lot of work on. We were getting information from our people in DC that he's an excellent player, but we wanted to do our own due diligence. We realised his attributes would definitely compliment our squad. He's a really good asset.
"Paul is exactly the same. The ownership group were really keen on him coming to us but they allowed us to make that decision because it had to be right for Steve and the squad and we're delighted to bring him in.
"So the disappointment of losing out on Michael Obafemi was tempered by the fact we've brought in two full international players who are outstanding prospects."
Note the word prospects!!! Maybe Cooper didnt fancy Arriola but was told your having him...this would then concur with Arriolas interview and events though Cooper did give him some pitch time
Still you obviously have the inside info form the lines you are being fed
in the meanwhile how did we end up in the situation we now are with no coaching team in place 15 days form kick off? Given that the club knew Cooper was not staying? [Post edited 23 Jul 2021 15:23]
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| Club announcement pending on 15:08 - Jul 23 by jasper_T |
Is that the Mullin that's just signed for Wrexham? |
Yep.
Not far off 27 years old with 1 single season of double figures goals tally in his career, last season in league 2. | |
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| Club announcement pending on 15:12 - Jul 23 with 1672 views | jack247 |
| Club announcement pending on 15:05 - Jul 23 by Dr_Parnassus |
This is getting stranger by the second, I can only assume you are feeling the heat. I guessed someone’s password to add a swan into their avatar ten years ago as a joke. You have been banging on about it for about ten posts now. Sorry you didn’t like it, I found it funny though. Get over it, It’s boring.
Now back to the discussion.
You cannot “think” it happened because you know full well that is not how managerial appointments work. He doesn’t head off to London like one of the three little pigs with a lunch box and a coat looking for jobs handing out his CV hoping to get one.
You are intentionally trying to belittle him. It’s wrong and it’s horrendous.
Fulham and Palace were reported to have approached him and he is reported to have spoken to Palace who were put off by the fee we asked. Fulham then also didn’t want to peruse it for that same reason. Show me one single report backing your version of events. Or indeed how you came to such a unique and wild conclusion.
You are tying yourself in knots forgetting what you have said which contradicts what you are saying now, because you are trying to get out of things you have represented fraudulently. [Post edited 23 Jul 2021 15:09]
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So can you provide the full post and preferably the one I was replying to when I said ‘I’m not as against Cooper as some….’ please?
I’m not suggesting he pitched up at Craven Cottage unannounced and asked if they had any jobs going. I’m suggesting he was hawking/touting himself about. Making it abundantly clear he wanted to leave Swansea and was looking for offers. You already know that though.
We previously agreed how the tapping up process works with players and managers. Let’s not pretend no manager ever circulates their potential availability to other clubs. | | | |
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| Club announcement pending on 15:12 - Jul 23 by jack247 |
So can you provide the full post and preferably the one I was replying to when I said ‘I’m not as against Cooper as some….’ please?
I’m not suggesting he pitched up at Craven Cottage unannounced and asked if they had any jobs going. I’m suggesting he was hawking/touting himself about. Making it abundantly clear he wanted to leave Swansea and was looking for offers. You already know that though.
We previously agreed how the tapping up process works with players and managers. Let’s not pretend no manager ever circulates their potential availability to other clubs. |
You have just as much access to your posts as I do, I’m not searching for it again. If you think there is some kind of defence to be made there then be my guest find it and put it forward. But I don’t understand what it was replying to makes any difference what so ever. The meaning is the same regardless.
I don’t know that at all. As soon as Martinez agreed to speak to Wigan, as soon as Rodgers agreed to speak to Liverpool, as soon as Potter agreed to speak to Brighton, as soon as Dan James agreed to go speak to Leeds - they all made it abundantly clear they wanted to leave Swansea. Did you say any of those were “hawking themselves about”? I would bet everything I have that you didn’t, and there was plenty of opportunity to.
If you did then I will unreservedly apologise. But I think we both know the only time you have probably ever used such an angle on this forum is when Cooper spoke to Palace and it was reported Fulham wanted him too.
The tapping up process is a club approaching the employee of another club. What you are suggesting is that Cooper contacted them... based on absolutely nothing. It’s just odd. [Post edited 23 Jul 2021 15:37]
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| Club announcement pending on 16:05 - Jul 23 with 1585 views | jack247 |
| Club announcement pending on 15:18 - Jul 23 by Dr_Parnassus |
You have just as much access to your posts as I do, I’m not searching for it again. If you think there is some kind of defence to be made there then be my guest find it and put it forward. But I don’t understand what it was replying to makes any difference what so ever. The meaning is the same regardless.
I don’t know that at all. As soon as Martinez agreed to speak to Wigan, as soon as Rodgers agreed to speak to Liverpool, as soon as Potter agreed to speak to Brighton, as soon as Dan James agreed to go speak to Leeds - they all made it abundantly clear they wanted to leave Swansea. Did you say any of those were “hawking themselves about”? I would bet everything I have that you didn’t, and there was plenty of opportunity to.
If you did then I will unreservedly apologise. But I think we both know the only time you have probably ever used such an angle on this forum is when Cooper spoke to Palace and it was reported Fulham wanted him too.
The tapping up process is a club approaching the employee of another club. What you are suggesting is that Cooper contacted them... based on absolutely nothing. It’s just odd. [Post edited 23 Jul 2021 15:37]
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Fair enough, I’m not the one trawling through someone else’s old posts. If you can’t or won’t provide it, I’ll live with that.
We aren’t talking about players or managers reacting to offers from clubs. We’re talking about making it generally known that he is looking to leave Swansea and actively seeking another club. That’s exactly what I believe Cooper was doing. By proxy via an agent and I’m not accusing him of any kind of lack of transparency. Most of Swansea were aware of it, I’m sure it was with the clubs blessing.
I actually gave Martinez a hammering at the time, not because he wanted to further his career but because of all the nonsense about having to be dragged away from here kicking and screaming. I foolishly bought into it at the time. At least it taught me a lesson and I’ve paid no attention to badge kissing since. I wouldn’t have said he was hawking himself about though, I didn’t believe he was doing that.
I doubt I said anything about Dan James, Rodgers or Potter, other than the predictable stuff about hoping they’d stay. | | | |
| Club announcement pending on 16:11 - Jul 23 with 1571 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| Club announcement pending on 16:05 - Jul 23 by jack247 |
Fair enough, I’m not the one trawling through someone else’s old posts. If you can’t or won’t provide it, I’ll live with that.
We aren’t talking about players or managers reacting to offers from clubs. We’re talking about making it generally known that he is looking to leave Swansea and actively seeking another club. That’s exactly what I believe Cooper was doing. By proxy via an agent and I’m not accusing him of any kind of lack of transparency. Most of Swansea were aware of it, I’m sure it was with the clubs blessing.
I actually gave Martinez a hammering at the time, not because he wanted to further his career but because of all the nonsense about having to be dragged away from here kicking and screaming. I foolishly bought into it at the time. At least it taught me a lesson and I’ve paid no attention to badge kissing since. I wouldn’t have said he was hawking himself about though, I didn’t believe he was doing that.
I doubt I said anything about Dan James, Rodgers or Potter, other than the predictable stuff about hoping they’d stay. |
There was no trawling, I remember it. Can’t remember what it was in response to though, don’t see how it matters. If you think it does then you are welcome to present your defence of such a comment. But as it stands you quite clearly made a comment stating you weren’t as against him as others were.
You see, this is another thing you seem to have made up off the cuff. So ok, show me how Cooper has made it generally known he is looking to leave Swansea and actively seeking another club. A quote? A report? Anything will do.
Otherwise it seems like no different to the scenarios I mentioned above except you have decided to make this scenario up despite presumably not knowing Steve or his situation at all.
In fact, Cooper said nothing over the summer at all. Just like the other managers I mentioned who said nothing. | |
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| Club announcement pending on 16:11 - Jul 23 by Dr_Parnassus |
There was no trawling, I remember it. Can’t remember what it was in response to though, don’t see how it matters. If you think it does then you are welcome to present your defence of such a comment. But as it stands you quite clearly made a comment stating you weren’t as against him as others were.
You see, this is another thing you seem to have made up off the cuff. So ok, show me how Cooper has made it generally known he is looking to leave Swansea and actively seeking another club. A quote? A report? Anything will do.
Otherwise it seems like no different to the scenarios I mentioned above except you have decided to make this scenario up despite presumably not knowing Steve or his situation at all.
In fact, Cooper said nothing over the summer at all. Just like the other managers I mentioned who said nothing. |
Of course there was trawling. You dug up a direct quote from me a couple of hours ago. You also picked up the term ‘hawking’ which I can’t remember saying but probably did. You aren’t Rainman.
And I haven’t just made this up, I’ve quite obviously been saying it for a while, that’s the whole reason you’ve found terms like touting and hawking in my post history.
It’s not an uncommon opinion either, it was pretty much accepted as an open secret in Swansea with a split over whether people wanted him to stay or go. | | | |
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| Club announcement pending on 16:37 - Jul 23 by jack247 |
Of course there was trawling. You dug up a direct quote from me a couple of hours ago. You also picked up the term ‘hawking’ which I can’t remember saying but probably did. You aren’t Rainman.
And I haven’t just made this up, I’ve quite obviously been saying it for a while, that’s the whole reason you’ve found terms like touting and hawking in my post history.
It’s not an uncommon opinion either, it was pretty much accepted as an open secret in Swansea with a split over whether people wanted him to stay or go. |
That’s not trawling, you are again playing the linguistic game to misrepresent reality.
The message I showed you was a direct response to me, I knew the thread. Took me 20 seconds to go there directly. There was no trawling involved.
You are impressed with me remembering that you said he was hawking himself about? Really? I must be rainman then if that is the level required to have such an accolade. Nothing has been “found”, terms such as that have stuck out to me as I have explained many times. I have a very good memory. In fact I believe I picked up on it at the time and said something along the lines of “was he hawking himself about then”... you obviously ignored it as you had nothing to suggest he was.
So again, can you show me anything at all to back your claim that he made it abundantly clear or “generally known” he wanted to leave the club and actively looked for other clubs. Because it seems he acted exactly the same way as all the other names I mentioned. Deadly silent.
A single report or quote will do. Anything at all.
It would be far easier if you just said you didn’t take to Cooper and admit treating and interpreting the same scenario differently simply because he is involved. Which is obviously the case. Some people do that, you wouldn’t be the only one. [Post edited 23 Jul 2021 16:52]
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| Club announcement pending on 15:11 - Jul 23 by vetchonian |
keep digging....,I hope they are paqying you well.....you obviously havent read that article Ill post the link again and include a quote which discusses the the no9 situation and what really is the crux of the issue the Yanks interfering in football matters
https://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/andy-scott-interview-
"Having only discovered the full details of Brexit work permit regulations weeks before the recent January transfer window, the club's transfer plans were plunged into chaos.
Lists of targets were altered while some of those identified had to be ruled out when it came to the prospect of a move to SA1.
And then came the crushing news of Michael Obafemi's injury - a blow Scott was alerted to just a day before the Southampton striker was poised to travel to Swansea to complete a loan switch from the Saints.
"Michael Obafemi was one we had lined up. We felt he fitted the profile we wanted, and the day before he came in he has an unfortunate injury so it changes what you do," explained Scott.
"Everyone was looking for a loan striker because they haven't got the money to buy someone. Squads are bigger because of Covid and centre-forward is always a position where everyone wants to collect as many as possible.
"It was a horrible phone call when I got that from the agent about him needing an operation on his injury. But we had to look at our list again, and we've got a number of players on our list, but we didn't know if we'd be able to get them or not."
Injuries suffered by Cullen and Wayne Routledge during the 5-1 FA Cup fourth round win over Nottingham Forest intensified the need for Swansea to add firepower to their ranks.
And it was an unfortunate situation in the homeland of Swansea's majority owners that ultimately came to the club's rescue.
Morris was identified as a player who could boost Swansea's promotion hopes given his qualities while his USMNT team-mate Arriola was also brought in to bolster Cooper's attacking options.
"The ownership group were really good with information we were getting from MLS," explained Scott.
"It was a perfect storm really that MLS has deferred their season for a bit longer, which meant their players were doing nothing really for six months for the rest of our season. It was a good opportunity to get players that we probably wouldn't have been able to afford or get in previous windows for this window.
"Jordan, we did a lot of work on. We were getting information from our people in DC that he's an excellent player, but we wanted to do our own due diligence. We realised his attributes would definitely compliment our squad. He's a really good asset.
"Paul is exactly the same. The ownership group were really keen on him coming to us but they allowed us to make that decision because it had to be right for Steve and the squad and we're delighted to bring him in.
"So the disappointment of losing out on Michael Obafemi was tempered by the fact we've brought in two full international players who are outstanding prospects."
Note the word prospects!!! Maybe Cooper didnt fancy Arriola but was told your having him...this would then concur with Arriolas interview and events though Cooper did give him some pitch time
Still you obviously have the inside info form the lines you are being fed
in the meanwhile how did we end up in the situation we now are with no coaching team in place 15 days form kick off? Given that the club knew Cooper was not staying? [Post edited 23 Jul 2021 15:23]
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I have no links to the club whatsoever. Please stop, pedalling this myth and treat my points logically and fairly. I support the owners who want to stay and develop the club such as expand the stadium. I do not support a minor shareholder group that appears to want to cash in and leave the club notionally to return at later date possible several decades hence when I will be ash.
To pedal this fake spin suggests to the readership that nobody would defend these owners unless they were being paid to do so. This is blatantly false. It is dirty tricks, spin, and smear and a little cowardly in my view.
The US people are running Swansea city in the same way as it always has been run with a greater emphasis on the fully developed academy and up to £10m in convertible loan notes made to help he club through Covid 19. The previous owners would have had to sell more players at discounted prices or taken are far more expensive commercial bank loan.
The absence of no 9 was down to bad luck and not being able to satisfy the managers wishes. They tried and failed. Cooper appeared to rate Morris and played him a lot more than Peterson who he chose. Cooper perhaps should have stuck with Goykeres. He did so bad at Coventry they signed him permanently and paid a transfer fee. He was not the finished article but neither was Surridge.
The coaching team will be finalised in the next few days two weeks before the season starts. By the looks of the Plymouth games the players are still searching for fitness and sharpness. [Post edited 23 Jul 2021 17:26]
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| Club announcement pending on 17:23 - Jul 23 by ReslovenSwan1 |
I have no links to the club whatsoever. Please stop, pedalling this myth and treat my points logically and fairly. I support the owners who want to stay and develop the club such as expand the stadium. I do not support a minor shareholder group that appears to want to cash in and leave the club notionally to return at later date possible several decades hence when I will be ash.
To pedal this fake spin suggests to the readership that nobody would defend these owners unless they were being paid to do so. This is blatantly false. It is dirty tricks, spin, and smear and a little cowardly in my view.
The US people are running Swansea city in the same way as it always has been run with a greater emphasis on the fully developed academy and up to £10m in convertible loan notes made to help he club through Covid 19. The previous owners would have had to sell more players at discounted prices or taken are far more expensive commercial bank loan.
The absence of no 9 was down to bad luck and not being able to satisfy the managers wishes. They tried and failed. Cooper appeared to rate Morris and played him a lot more than Peterson who he chose. Cooper perhaps should have stuck with Goykeres. He did so bad at Coventry they signed him permanently and paid a transfer fee. He was not the finished article but neither was Surridge.
The coaching team will be finalised in the next few days two weeks before the season starts. By the looks of the Plymouth games the players are still searching for fitness and sharpness. [Post edited 23 Jul 2021 17:26]
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| Club announcement pending on 16:45 - Jul 23 by Dr_Parnassus |
That’s not trawling, you are again playing the linguistic game to misrepresent reality.
The message I showed you was a direct response to me, I knew the thread. Took me 20 seconds to go there directly. There was no trawling involved.
You are impressed with me remembering that you said he was hawking himself about? Really? I must be rainman then if that is the level required to have such an accolade. Nothing has been “found”, terms such as that have stuck out to me as I have explained many times. I have a very good memory. In fact I believe I picked up on it at the time and said something along the lines of “was he hawking himself about then”... you obviously ignored it as you had nothing to suggest he was.
So again, can you show me anything at all to back your claim that he made it abundantly clear or “generally known” he wanted to leave the club and actively looked for other clubs. Because it seems he acted exactly the same way as all the other names I mentioned. Deadly silent.
A single report or quote will do. Anything at all.
It would be far easier if you just said you didn’t take to Cooper and admit treating and interpreting the same scenario differently simply because he is involved. Which is obviously the case. Some people do that, you wouldn’t be the only one. [Post edited 23 Jul 2021 16:52]
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We’ll put ‘you have just as much access to your posts as I do, I’m not searching for it again’ down to a typing error then shall we? | | | |
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| Club announcement pending on 08:19 - Jul 24 by jack247 |
We’ll put ‘you have just as much access to your posts as I do, I’m not searching for it again’ down to a typing error then shall we? |
Error? No.
As I said, it was a conversation with me, I knew where to find it in around 20 seconds (you saying that he was hawking himself about).
You then asked me (for reasons only you can explain) to find another post that you replied to on a quote I remembered you saying. I have no idea on what thread that would be.
I quite correctly told you that you have access to your posting history, I’m not searching again (in relation to the initial 20 second search)
Trawling means to “search thoroughly”. Does a 20 second search on a thread were i knew it was located consider a thorough search? No.
I am very good and very careful with my words, it’s best you don’t play linguistics with me. You won’t win. It’s why I spot these misrepresentations very easily.
Like I said, if you wish to put a defence forward to a quote you don’t deny saying - be my guest, but I’m not doing the donkey work for you. [Post edited 24 Jul 2021 8:39]
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| Club announcement pending on 08:35 - Jul 24 by Dr_Parnassus |
Error? No.
As I said, it was a conversation with me, I knew where to find it in around 20 seconds (you saying that he was hawking himself about).
You then asked me (for reasons only you can explain) to find another post that you replied to on a quote I remembered you saying. I have no idea on what thread that would be.
I quite correctly told you that you have access to your posting history, I’m not searching again (in relation to the initial 20 second search)
Trawling means to “search thoroughly”. Does a 20 second search on a thread were i knew it was located consider a thorough search? No.
I am very good and very careful with my words, it’s best you don’t play linguistics with me. You won’t win. It’s why I spot these misrepresentations very easily.
Like I said, if you wish to put a defence forward to a quote you don’t deny saying - be my guest, but I’m not doing the donkey work for you. [Post edited 24 Jul 2021 8:39]
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That’s not true though is it?
My post
‘So can you provide the full post and preferably the one I was replying to when I said ‘I’m not as against Cooper as some….’ please?’
Your response
‘You have just as much access to your posts as I do, I’m not searching for it again’.
‘For it again’ would be a bizarre thing to say about a post you hadn’t searched for.
Quite evidently, neither of us were referring to the 20 second search for the post you remembered about hawking.
I don’t care if you search through my posts, I’ve put them on the internet. I find it weird you think by just mentioning the word ‘trawling’ I’m playing a linguistic game to misrepresent reality though. | | | |
| Club announcement pending on 09:14 - Jul 24 with 1175 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| Club announcement pending on 08:59 - Jul 24 by jack247 |
That’s not true though is it?
My post
‘So can you provide the full post and preferably the one I was replying to when I said ‘I’m not as against Cooper as some….’ please?’
Your response
‘You have just as much access to your posts as I do, I’m not searching for it again’.
‘For it again’ would be a bizarre thing to say about a post you hadn’t searched for.
Quite evidently, neither of us were referring to the 20 second search for the post you remembered about hawking.
I don’t care if you search through my posts, I’ve put them on the internet. I find it weird you think by just mentioning the word ‘trawling’ I’m playing a linguistic game to misrepresent reality though. |
Yes it is exactly true.
You said can you provide the full post (the initial 20 second search) AND the other one. I replied saying I’m not searching for it again. If I was referring to both I would have said “them” and not “it”.
You said “and”.... that means both.
Again, don’t play linguistic games, you won’t win.
Quite evidently we were both referring to the initial comment, you just wanted me to search another one as well.
I have never searched your post where you said “I am not as against him as others are”, I just remember it, as do you evidently. I thought it were an odd thing to say at the time considering you like to appear to be impartial.
Trawling other people’s posts was a comment you made to misrepresent the situation. I haven’t trawled anyone’s posts, I think I’m starting to know how Cooper feels when you falsely tell everyone it’s a fact that he’s gone off to London openly hawking himself out looking for jobs.
(I’m still waiting for any reference to this openness in intent, a quote or article... anything will do).
Like I said, if you have a defence to make by looking what it was in reply to... then make it. But I’m not going to help you, I don’t think there is a defence to make. It’s irrelevant what it was in response to. [Post edited 24 Jul 2021 9:23]
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| Club announcement pending on 09:28 - Jul 24 with 1148 views | jack247 |
| Club announcement pending on 09:14 - Jul 24 by Dr_Parnassus |
Yes it is exactly true.
You said can you provide the full post (the initial 20 second search) AND the other one. I replied saying I’m not searching for it again. If I was referring to both I would have said “them” and not “it”.
You said “and”.... that means both.
Again, don’t play linguistic games, you won’t win.
Quite evidently we were both referring to the initial comment, you just wanted me to search another one as well.
I have never searched your post where you said “I am not as against him as others are”, I just remember it, as do you evidently. I thought it were an odd thing to say at the time considering you like to appear to be impartial.
Trawling other people’s posts was a comment you made to misrepresent the situation. I haven’t trawled anyone’s posts, I think I’m starting to know how Cooper feels when you falsely tell everyone it’s a fact that he’s gone off to London openly hawking himself out looking for jobs.
(I’m still waiting for any reference to this openness in intent, a quote or article... anything will do).
Like I said, if you have a defence to make by looking what it was in reply to... then make it. But I’m not going to help you, I don’t think there is a defence to make. It’s irrelevant what it was in response to. [Post edited 24 Jul 2021 9:23]
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‘So can you provide the full post and preferably the one I was replying to when I said ‘I’m not as against Cooper as some….’’
You interpret that as ‘can you provide the full post and another one I wrote’? | | | |
| Club announcement pending on 09:32 - Jul 24 with 1142 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| Club announcement pending on 09:28 - Jul 24 by jack247 |
‘So can you provide the full post and preferably the one I was replying to when I said ‘I’m not as against Cooper as some….’’
You interpret that as ‘can you provide the full post and another one I wrote’? |
What do you mean I “interpret it” as that? That’s exactly what you just said. Read it.
“So can you provide the full post AND preferably the one I was replying to when I said ‘I’m not as against Cooper as some….’’
If you were just referencing one post in particular then you have written that entirely wrong. There is no need for the “and” there is also no need for “preferably”, they both imply multiples.
As I said, linguistics. | |
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| Club announcement pending on 09:35 - Jul 24 with 1139 views | Dr_Parnassus |
But you appear to be wanting to deflect again. I wasn’t trawling through your posts, something you will just have to accept. If you took it as such because you incorrectly appeared to also reference the initial post in your request, then there isn’t much I can do about that.
If you wish to search for it, in order to put your defence forward regarding what it was in reply to, as you seemed to want to - then be my guest.
Now, back to the thread.
You said Cooper made it known that he wanted to leave and was open in the fact he was pro actively looking for jobs, can you show me where any of this openness is, openness that isn’t exactly the same as any of the other managers that have spoken to other clubs previously please?
At this point literally anything of substance will do.. anything at all. [Post edited 24 Jul 2021 9:41]
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| Club announcement pending on 10:03 - Jul 24 with 1107 views | Brynmill_Jack |
Dr P ruining this board again. How many pages of this once interesting thread are now unreadable rubbish? Ten plus? Shameful. 24/7 - you can’t debate people like him. Not because they’re right - because they twist your words to suit their point of view. Please put him on ignore like the most of us have. It will improve your life believe me. |  |
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| Club announcement pending on 10:40 - Jul 24 with 1050 views | onehunglow |
| Club announcement pending on 17:23 - Jul 23 by ReslovenSwan1 |
I have no links to the club whatsoever. Please stop, pedalling this myth and treat my points logically and fairly. I support the owners who want to stay and develop the club such as expand the stadium. I do not support a minor shareholder group that appears to want to cash in and leave the club notionally to return at later date possible several decades hence when I will be ash.
To pedal this fake spin suggests to the readership that nobody would defend these owners unless they were being paid to do so. This is blatantly false. It is dirty tricks, spin, and smear and a little cowardly in my view.
The US people are running Swansea city in the same way as it always has been run with a greater emphasis on the fully developed academy and up to £10m in convertible loan notes made to help he club through Covid 19. The previous owners would have had to sell more players at discounted prices or taken are far more expensive commercial bank loan.
The absence of no 9 was down to bad luck and not being able to satisfy the managers wishes. They tried and failed. Cooper appeared to rate Morris and played him a lot more than Peterson who he chose. Cooper perhaps should have stuck with Goykeres. He did so bad at Coventry they signed him permanently and paid a transfer fee. He was not the finished article but neither was Surridge.
The coaching team will be finalised in the next few days two weeks before the season starts. By the looks of the Plymouth games the players are still searching for fitness and sharpness. [Post edited 23 Jul 2021 17:26]
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Rightly or wrongly,it really does look like 247 has implied. Get over it.
You seem easily satisfied and that is fine by me . | |
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