| 45 years ago today. 18:19 - Feb 5 with 8851 views | soulboy |
Today is the 45th anniversary of what could be described as the saddest day in our history. Rock bottom of division 3 with only 2 wins all season, a ground that was an embarresment, and 588 supporters turn up on a Tuesday afternoon to so see us lose 2 0 to Cambridge who were also relegated that season.
So, to those who come on here and constantly moan about the manager, players and club in general, try and imagine what it was like back then and thank your lucky stars. |  | | |  |
| 45 years ago today. on 18:43 - Feb 5 with 7385 views | SuddenLad |
Let's never forget where we were and the dross we were served up and for which we paid. It's great to look back and to remember as long as we never, ever go there again.
These are indeed the Golden Days. |  |
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| 45 years ago today. on 18:49 - Feb 5 with 7373 views | moth5368 |
Parkins gimp reckons that none of our current squad would have got into that team. [Post edited 5 Feb 2019 18:55]
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| 45 years ago today. on 18:52 - Feb 5 with 7367 views | SuddenLad |
| 45 years ago today. on 18:49 - Feb 5 by moth5368 |
Parkins gimp reckons that none of our current squad would have got into that team. [Post edited 5 Feb 2019 18:55]
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Which tells you all you need to know about him. | |
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| 45 years ago today. on 19:07 - Feb 5 with 7333 views | Shun |
A Tuesday afternoon? As opposed to evening? How come? |  | | |
| 45 years ago today. on 19:14 - Feb 5 with 7322 views | SuddenLad |
Power shortages and strikes. Had to be played in daylight. | |
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| 45 years ago today. on 19:17 - Feb 5 with 7307 views | D_Alien |
| 45 years ago today. on 19:07 - Feb 5 by Shun |
A Tuesday afternoon? As opposed to evening? How come? |
It was in the middle of a miner's strike, meaning power was being rationed and the lights - literally - went out (either 9pm or 10pm) every day. Yep, unbelievable but that's how it was
It was then candlelight at home, and there was a danger of running out of those too... |  |
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| 45 years ago today. on 19:19 - Feb 5 with 7305 views | soulboy |
| 45 years ago today. on 18:49 - Feb 5 by moth5368 |
Parkins gimp reckons that none of our current squad would have got into that team. [Post edited 5 Feb 2019 18:55]
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I think he meant they wouldnt get into that squad! | | | |
| 45 years ago today. on 19:19 - Feb 5 with 7303 views | kiwidale |
| 45 years ago today. on 18:49 - Feb 5 by moth5368 |
Parkins gimp reckons that none of our current squad would have got into that team. [Post edited 5 Feb 2019 18:55]
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lol pmsl at that very funny. | |
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| 45 years ago today. on 19:53 - Feb 5 with 7205 views | Ancoats_Blue |
I don’t post on here often but I’d like to think I’m not in the “those who come on here and constantly moan about the manager, players and club in general” camp.
I appreciate the 70s and 80s were a fallow period for the club. I’ve heard a lot from older supporters including those in my own family about how grim and frankly embarrassing it was. I guess I’m grateful that people stuck by the club then.
But I personally don’t see the need to compare something nigh on 50 years ago to today and use it as a stick to beat those wanting inrpvement on and off the field. History doesn’t always repeat itself and the past shouldn’t be used as a weight or an influence on the club. I put it in the same bracket as fans of clubs who still dine out on successes of yesteryear and see themselves as better than they actually are in some way (plenty of those who have dropped into L1 or played us in cups over recent years). |  | | |
| 45 years ago today. on 19:56 - Feb 5 with 7192 views | seasidedale |
I was at that game it was awful. Makes you realise how far we have come from those dark day, in following seasons, which were not much better and if it wasn’t for the efforts of the supporters club, the fighting fund and others we wouldn’t be here. | | | |
| 45 years ago today. on 19:56 - Feb 5 with 7189 views | TVOS1907 |
Graham Smith, Stan Horne and Paul Fielding, I believe? [Post edited 5 Feb 2019 19:57]
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| 45 years ago today. on 21:01 - Feb 5 with 7067 views | Ancoats_Blue |
| 45 years ago today. on 19:56 - Feb 5 by TVOS1907 |
Graham Smith, Stan Horne and Paul Fielding, I believe? [Post edited 5 Feb 2019 19:57]
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That kit is great. Would love to see a sash on a future kit design. | | | |
| 45 years ago today. on 21:19 - Feb 5 with 7039 views | D_Dale |
| 45 years ago today. on 19:56 - Feb 5 by TVOS1907 |
Graham Smith, Stan Horne and Paul Fielding, I believe? [Post edited 5 Feb 2019 19:57]
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I'm sure that, as usual, you're not wrong. An odd thing is, the club had some good players that season - Graham Smith, Keith Hanvey, Mike Poole, the keeper, Alan Taylor (always identified as the one who went on to score twice for West Ham in the FAC). | | | |
| 45 years ago today. on 21:24 - Feb 5 with 7027 views | TVOS1907 |
| 45 years ago today. on 21:19 - Feb 5 by D_Dale |
I'm sure that, as usual, you're not wrong. An odd thing is, the club had some good players that season - Graham Smith, Keith Hanvey, Mike Poole, the keeper, Alan Taylor (always identified as the one who went on to score twice for West Ham in the FAC). |
Before my time, but those are the names I was given when I first saw that image. | |
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| 45 years ago today. on 22:12 - Feb 5 with 6947 views | borntogo |
| 45 years ago today. on 19:53 - Feb 5 by Ancoats_Blue |
I don’t post on here often but I’d like to think I’m not in the “those who come on here and constantly moan about the manager, players and club in general” camp.
I appreciate the 70s and 80s were a fallow period for the club. I’ve heard a lot from older supporters including those in my own family about how grim and frankly embarrassing it was. I guess I’m grateful that people stuck by the club then.
But I personally don’t see the need to compare something nigh on 50 years ago to today and use it as a stick to beat those wanting inrpvement on and off the field. History doesn’t always repeat itself and the past shouldn’t be used as a weight or an influence on the club. I put it in the same bracket as fans of clubs who still dine out on successes of yesteryear and see themselves as better than they actually are in some way (plenty of those who have dropped into L1 or played us in cups over recent years). |
Brilliantly put. To hugely misquote George Santayna (philosopher, not a Chelsea squad member), 'Those who bang on too much about the past are condemned to be slaves to it.'
Cast it all into Hollingworth Lake (the past, the fears, the failures), I say, and dream big. And, if to get there, it means you call for players and managers or board members to move on, so be it. Be brave. | | | |
| 45 years ago today. on 22:39 - Feb 5 with 6886 views | D_Alien |
There's a huge difference between using the past in a negative way to reflect on the present, and simply remembering the past
The well-worn 'real' Santayana quote is far more apt in this context than any mangled version of it | |
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| 45 years ago today. on 22:49 - Feb 5 with 6862 views | philofOAFC |
I remember this season well, 1973/74 Oldham promotion season and Dale rock bottom with 2 wins all season. The game was played at 2pm on a Tuesday afternoon so obviously very limited availability due to schools / work commitments. That same season, OAFC played Cambridge at Boundary Park on a Tuesday afternoon and there was a crowd of 10,000+ the Chaddy End did a walk on with school ties!! In those days, the FA Cup was held in great esteem by fans, a league game wouldn't have attracted anywhere near the same.
I would have thought this was the worst season in Dale's history but, from a positive perspective, just look how far Dale have come both on and off the pitch since those days. Good luck for rest of season fellas. | | | |
| 45 years ago today. on 23:50 - Feb 5 with 6794 views | DaleiLama |
| 45 years ago today. on 22:39 - Feb 5 by D_Alien |
There's a huge difference between using the past in a negative way to reflect on the present, and simply remembering the past
The well-worn 'real' Santayana quote is far more apt in this context than any mangled version of it |
He was a bl00dy good guitarist too! |  |
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| 45 years ago today. on 00:17 - Feb 6 with 6760 views | D_Alien |
| 45 years ago today. on 23:50 - Feb 5 by DaleiLama |
He was a bl00dy good guitarist too! |
Didn't he play the instrumental on Carlos Whispers? | |
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| 45 years ago today. on 02:39 - Feb 6 with 6714 views | pioneer |
| 45 years ago today. on 22:49 - Feb 5 by philofOAFC |
I remember this season well, 1973/74 Oldham promotion season and Dale rock bottom with 2 wins all season. The game was played at 2pm on a Tuesday afternoon so obviously very limited availability due to schools / work commitments. That same season, OAFC played Cambridge at Boundary Park on a Tuesday afternoon and there was a crowd of 10,000+ the Chaddy End did a walk on with school ties!! In those days, the FA Cup was held in great esteem by fans, a league game wouldn't have attracted anywhere near the same.
I would have thought this was the worst season in Dale's history but, from a positive perspective, just look how far Dale have come both on and off the pitch since those days. Good luck for rest of season fellas. |
1931-32 was about as bad so the history books suggest and we would have probably gone out of the league if Wigan borough hadn’t dropped out of the league mid season. in fact the 30s as a decade rivalled mid seventies to
Mid eighties in futility and embarrassment
The 73-4 strip was usually worn with white shorts and was not great, blue shorts made it much better. I still have my scarf from that season | | | |
| 45 years ago today. on 07:25 - Feb 6 with 6606 views | seasidedale |
| 45 years ago today. on 22:49 - Feb 5 by philofOAFC |
I remember this season well, 1973/74 Oldham promotion season and Dale rock bottom with 2 wins all season. The game was played at 2pm on a Tuesday afternoon so obviously very limited availability due to schools / work commitments. That same season, OAFC played Cambridge at Boundary Park on a Tuesday afternoon and there was a crowd of 10,000+ the Chaddy End did a walk on with school ties!! In those days, the FA Cup was held in great esteem by fans, a league game wouldn't have attracted anywhere near the same.
I would have thought this was the worst season in Dale's history but, from a positive perspective, just look how far Dale have come both on and off the pitch since those days. Good luck for rest of season fellas. |
trouble with that season was we wanted a youth policy and appointed a youth team manager as boss, Walter Joyce, he got fid of experienced players and put youngster in many who were either not ready or good enough hence defeats every week. I know we bring youngster in now but this was wholesale, still this is the past and we shouldn’t dwell on it now | | | |
| 45 years ago today. on 07:51 - Feb 6 with 6579 views | EllDale |
In defence of Walter Joyce (and you don't often see those words together in the same sentence) he was brought in by the board after they sacked Dick Connor to oversee a sea change in club philosophy from playing seasoned professionals to a youth policy.
he tried to do it immediately though.
Cue the exit of all decent players with indecent haste instead of a season of transition.
By February all confidence had been knocked out of the team.
I too was at this match, shivering in the Main Stand paddock.
I can remember a pile of pies being given away rather than bin them.
This was certainly a low ebb in the club's history but I also remember the last two months of the 1979/80 season when we were stuck at the bottom of Division Four with Bob Stokoe trying to fine the entire team after one defeat for "not trying". | | | |
| 45 years ago today. on 10:03 - Feb 6 with 6471 views | JimmyRustler |
| 45 years ago today. on 19:53 - Feb 5 by Ancoats_Blue |
I don’t post on here often but I’d like to think I’m not in the “those who come on here and constantly moan about the manager, players and club in general” camp.
I appreciate the 70s and 80s were a fallow period for the club. I’ve heard a lot from older supporters including those in my own family about how grim and frankly embarrassing it was. I guess I’m grateful that people stuck by the club then.
But I personally don’t see the need to compare something nigh on 50 years ago to today and use it as a stick to beat those wanting inrpvement on and off the field. History doesn’t always repeat itself and the past shouldn’t be used as a weight or an influence on the club. I put it in the same bracket as fans of clubs who still dine out on successes of yesteryear and see themselves as better than they actually are in some way (plenty of those who have dropped into L1 or played us in cups over recent years). |
Indeed. In the grand scheme of things, there are very few out and out moaners on here (those that do frequent the forum are often rightly put down and ignored). The vast majority of level headed posters have aired their grievances and gripes in a well thought out and reasonable manner over the past few months or so |  | | |
| 45 years ago today. on 10:24 - Feb 6 with 6445 views | pioneer |
| 45 years ago today. on 07:51 - Feb 6 by EllDale |
In defence of Walter Joyce (and you don't often see those words together in the same sentence) he was brought in by the board after they sacked Dick Connor to oversee a sea change in club philosophy from playing seasoned professionals to a youth policy.
he tried to do it immediately though.
Cue the exit of all decent players with indecent haste instead of a season of transition.
By February all confidence had been knocked out of the team.
I too was at this match, shivering in the Main Stand paddock.
I can remember a pile of pies being given away rather than bin them.
This was certainly a low ebb in the club's history but I also remember the last two months of the 1979/80 season when we were stuck at the bottom of Division Four with Bob Stokoe trying to fine the entire team after one defeat for "not trying". |
He was a very nice bloke, and no doubt put everything he had into the job - he was just not cut out to be a manager of a team of full time professionals. He did great things with Oldham's youth team. Of course after being fired from the Dale he never managed in the football league again. right man wrong job. | | | |
| 45 years ago today. on 10:43 - Feb 6 with 6420 views | DareToCalvin |
I've been supporting Dale since 2003 when I was 4 so I have been very lucky with the vast majority of what I've seen and I can't really comment on what happened in the grim days but I do agree that although we have been horrendous for most of our existence, that is no excuse for the present day and we should always be looking forward and not thinking 'oh it could be worse, could be 1974.' |  | | |
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