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Oscar Pistorius 12:41 - Aug 4 with 3284 viewsJonDoeman

Dangerous precedent letting him compete and I don't agree with it.
I can see a time in the future when improvements in that technology, will mean a double amputee will be the champion. And the next thing you know, kids in China will be getting their legs chopped off!
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Oscar Pistorius on 15:06 - Aug 4 with 733 viewsGoldenEPump

Does this mean I can rock up to the Paralympics and run due to my disability of 'being shit at running'?
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Oscar Pistorius on 15:19 - Aug 4 with 724 viewsJamie

Oscar Pistorius on 15:01 - Aug 4 by JonDoeman

Strange post Jamie, we're talking the very highest level of sport here.
With your attitude, they might as well let the wheelchairs in as well, now those buggers can shift!


If any of the wheelchair athletes can meet the Olympic A standard time like Pistorius does then why shouldn't they also race?
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Oscar Pistorius on 15:54 - Aug 4 with 708 viewsJeff

Oscar Pistorius on 15:06 - Aug 4 by GoldenEPump

Does this mean I can rock up to the Paralympics and run due to my disability of 'being shit at running'?


If you can crowbar 'being shit at running' into one of the recognised categories of disabilities, yes you can.*

*if someone wants an assist for easy points, 'intellectual disability' now counts as one of the categories...

Can we not knock it?

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Oscar Pistorius on 16:00 - Aug 4 with 704 viewsMattnme

HE SHOULD BE PRAISED for the way he has battled against his disibility. However, and this is not taking the pisk but he does have the advantage he is not going to pull or rupture any muscle below the knee. There could also be a physcological effect on the other runners.
And the biggest certainty is, should he or anyone with similar disibilities achieve success there will be uproar.
There most definitely are cases where the disabled and able bodied can compete imo this is not one.
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Oscar Pistorius on 16:07 - Aug 4 with 697 viewsCHUBBS

Oscar Pistorius on 13:17 - Aug 4 by gobbles

LaShawn Merritt, the Olympic champion, criticised the decision to let Pistorius take part.
Merritt is a convicted drug cheat so he should know about getting an unfair advantage.
Pistorius is an absolute hero for what he has achieved, the most remarkable man at the Olympics. He lights up a sport that has spent most of the past 20 years in the gutter.


Well said gobbles,i couldn't agree more!!
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Oscar Pistorius on 16:16 - Aug 4 with 686 viewsCornish_oooRRRR

And if he swapped them for springs and won the high jump...

It's got to be Yarg

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Oscar Pistorius on 16:45 - Aug 4 with 663 viewsTW_R

Oscar Pistorius on 14:59 - Aug 4 by HollowayRanger

how strong hard sharpe are those blades like i say if one broke and he went flying he could do some real damage to himself and other runners thats my No 1 fear

man himself is incredible and such a hero and role model to others


Yeah - and those hurdles could be quite dangerous. Someone could trip over them and bang their head. That javelin looks very sharp - could have someone's eye out. That pole vault shouldn't be allowed either - someone could break their neck. Those arrows in archery look quite dangerous - the wind could blow them off target and stab someone. Hockey should be banned too. That ball could break an ankle or someone could get smacked on the hand with a stick. Get rid of sailing too - someone could drown. What about those people that dive off a 10m board - too dodgy surely? What about shooting. One of those shotguns could backfire. Maybe someone might fall off a trampoline? Or break a leg off a pommel horse? Or break their back falling off a horse? Those bellbars look a bit heavy. Don't want one of those falling on you. Taekwondo - could knock someone's teeth out. Mountains biking, road cycling, fencing, judo and boxing.

But no, your no 1 fear is someone getting injured in a 400m running race FFS!!
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Oscar Pistorius on 16:54 - Aug 4 with 659 viewsTW_R

Oscar Pistorius on 16:07 - Aug 4 by CHUBBS

Well said gobbles,i couldn't agree more!!


Me too! I doubt whether we'll see any double amputee compete at this level again for many years if at all in my lifetime. How many able-bodied people in the world can compete at this level? Let alone double amputees? I think it's an absolutely incredible story.

I cannot belive that someone would say that able bodied athletes should therefore be allow to compete in the paralympics.
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Oscar Pistorius on 17:07 - Aug 4 with 658 viewsCHUBBS

Oscar Pistorius on 16:54 - Aug 4 by TW_R

Me too! I doubt whether we'll see any double amputee compete at this level again for many years if at all in my lifetime. How many able-bodied people in the world can compete at this level? Let alone double amputees? I think it's an absolutely incredible story.

I cannot belive that someone would say that able bodied athletes should therefore be allow to compete in the paralympics.


Pistorius is a truly remarkable individual who's an inspiration to us all. He has rightly been put on a pedestal to show people whats possible.
I'm pretty sure those comments were a little toungue in cheek so not worth getting wound up about
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Oscar Pistorius on 17:27 - Aug 4 with 638 viewsTW_R

Oscar Pistorius on 17:07 - Aug 4 by CHUBBS

Pistorius is a truly remarkable individual who's an inspiration to us all. He has rightly been put on a pedestal to show people whats possible.
I'm pretty sure those comments were a little toungue in cheek so not worth getting wound up about


No they really weren't- that's what the scary thing is. This is the quote:-

"i disagree with it why cant able bodied people take part in the para olympics cant have it both ways? "
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Oscar Pistorius on 18:36 - Aug 4 with 632 viewsCharlie1

Well said Gobbles

Pristorious would have put the hours in, on track and gym. That's no different to an able bodied athlete many of whom, he beat fair and square today.

Go to a track and do reps of 400m @ 80% of max, 90 secs rest in between and try and do 10. Collapse and be sick. Repeat daily.
Can assure you Jon, Pristorious and others work just as hard as each other killing there bodies and mind.

Holloway; your thickness knows no bound.

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Oscar Pistorius on 18:59 - Aug 4 with 619 viewsHollowayRanger

Oscar Pistorius on 18:36 - Aug 4 by Charlie1

Well said Gobbles

Pristorious would have put the hours in, on track and gym. That's no different to an able bodied athlete many of whom, he beat fair and square today.

Go to a track and do reps of 400m @ 80% of max, 90 secs rest in between and try and do 10. Collapse and be sick. Repeat daily.
Can assure you Jon, Pristorious and others work just as hard as each other killing there bodies and mind.

Holloway; your thickness knows no bound.


in what way?

to quote i said

how strong hard sharpe are those blades like i say if one broke and he went flying he could do some real damage to himself and other runners thats my No 1 fear

man himself is incredible and such a hero and role model to others


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Oscar Pistorius on 19:05 - Aug 4 with 613 viewsMetallica_Hoop

I was dubious at first but after absorbing the evidence, if a man can do that fair play.
There will always be controversy about it but I'm cool with it (like my opinion counts )
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Oscar Pistorius on 22:42 - Aug 4 with 584 viewsTW_R

Oscar Pistorius on 18:59 - Aug 4 by HollowayRanger

in what way?

to quote i said

how strong hard sharpe are those blades like i say if one broke and he went flying he could do some real damage to himself and other runners thats my No 1 fear

man himself is incredible and such a hero and role model to others



And to quote what I said

"Yeah - and those hurdles could be quite dangerous. Someone could trip over them and bang their head. That javelin looks very sharp - could have someone's eye out. That pole vault shouldn't be allowed either - someone could break their neck. Those arrows in archery look quite dangerous - the wind could blow them off target and stab someone. Hockey should be banned too. That ball could break an ankle or someone could get smacked on the hand with a stick. Get rid of sailing too - someone could drown. What about those people that dive off a 10m board - too dodgy surely? What about shooting. One of those shotguns could backfire. Maybe someone might fall off a trampoline? Or break a leg off a pommel horse? Or break their back falling off a horse? Those bellbars look a bit heavy. Don't want one of those falling on you. Taekwondo - could knock someone's teeth out. Mountains biking, road cycling, fencing, judo and boxing."

All of which someone is more likely to get injured in than running in the 400 meters.

You also said, and I quote:- "i disagree with it why cant able bodied people take part in the para olympics cant have it both ways? "

That's 2 ways.
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Oscar Pistorius on 23:29 - Aug 4 with 559 viewsTheBlob

What is this,Pedant Corner all of a sudden?

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Oscar Pistorius on 23:36 - Aug 4 with 555 viewsCornish_oooRRRR

Oscar Pistorius on 23:29 - Aug 4 by TheBlob

What is this,Pedant Corner all of a sudden?


You missed a space after the comma

It's got to be Yarg

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Oscar Pistorius on 23:58 - Aug 4 with 541 viewsTheBlob

Oscar Pistorius on 23:36 - Aug 4 by Cornish_oooRRRR

You missed a space after the comma


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Oscar Pistorius on 01:57 - Aug 5 with 526 viewsJoolzz

Saw him interviewed after qualifying,and was really moved by his courage,how much it meant to him,and seeing him fight to keep the tears back.I think atm,there is clearly no advantage to be had,but i can also see the technology,in years to come,advancing to a point where it might give a paralympian the ability to run qucker than able-bodied atheletes.If that were the case,how do you keep the playing field level?

I think his inclusion was more a celebration of his courage,and what he has had to go through to just compete in that race,and i think its a fantastic gesture.What i would struggle with a little in the future,is having other paralympians with different disabilities,but with prosthetics that are so advanced it actually gives them an edge over able-bodied atheltes.How then would you measure there performances?
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Oscar Pistorius on 07:41 - Aug 5 with 512 viewsHarrowRoadR

Oscar Pistorius on 23:29 - Aug 4 by TheBlob

What is this,Pedant Corner all of a sudden?


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Oscar Pistorius on 08:06 - Aug 5 with 507 viewsNorthLondonR

Oscar Pistorius on 18:59 - Aug 4 by HollowayRanger

in what way?

to quote i said

how strong hard sharpe are those blades like i say if one broke and he went flying he could do some real damage to himself and other runners thats my No 1 fear

man himself is incredible and such a hero and role model to others



Christ sake, are you serious??? Of all the things you have said in the past and now this??

For this I am officially starting a campaign to have Serena Williams enter the 400m in a wheel chair ... Can't wait to hear what fascinating fears and concerns would bother you then.
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Oscar Pistorius on 08:54 - Aug 5 with 496 viewsOakwoodR

Oscar Pistorius on 15:54 - Aug 4 by Jeff

If you can crowbar 'being shit at running' into one of the recognised categories of disabilities, yes you can.*

*if someone wants an assist for easy points, 'intellectual disability' now counts as one of the categories...


Didn't the Spanish basketball team all pretend to have a learning disability a couple of Olympics back?
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Oscar Pistorius on 09:50 - Aug 5 with 477 viewsMelakaRanger

Oscar Pistorius on 12:47 - Aug 4 by Jeff

they have proved to a very reasonable degree of certainty that he gains absolutely no advantage from using the blades over an 'able bodied' athlete...


Who are 'they'?

I think this sets a very dangerous precedent. Where is the line drawn? For example - What if someone gets very 'springgy' legs and leaps far beyond anyone else in the high jump?

If anyone with artificial body parts win anything there would surely be uproar as to how their artificial parts assisted them.

Its not a 'pc' thing. Its not an 'equal oppurtunity' thing. Its just impossible to prove whether artificial body parts 'enhance' an athletes ability. The whole point is that everybody starts off with the same equipment - their body - and nothing else. No drugs, no 'enhancements'.

Its the thin end of the wedge. In the next 25 years great strides will be made in the whole area of 'replacement' body parts. Then like now you just cannot determine with any degree of accuracy whether such replacement parts actually enhance an athletes abilty.
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Oscar Pistorius on 10:15 - Aug 5 with 468 viewsJonDoeman

Oscar Pistorius on 09:50 - Aug 5 by MelakaRanger

Who are 'they'?

I think this sets a very dangerous precedent. Where is the line drawn? For example - What if someone gets very 'springgy' legs and leaps far beyond anyone else in the high jump?

If anyone with artificial body parts win anything there would surely be uproar as to how their artificial parts assisted them.

Its not a 'pc' thing. Its not an 'equal oppurtunity' thing. Its just impossible to prove whether artificial body parts 'enhance' an athletes ability. The whole point is that everybody starts off with the same equipment - their body - and nothing else. No drugs, no 'enhancements'.

Its the thin end of the wedge. In the next 25 years great strides will be made in the whole area of 'replacement' body parts. Then like now you just cannot determine with any degree of accuracy whether such replacement parts actually enhance an athletes abilty.


Exactly....thanks for posting.

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Oscar Pistorius on 10:34 - Aug 5 with 589 viewsTheBlob

Oscar Pistorius on 09:50 - Aug 5 by MelakaRanger

Who are 'they'?

I think this sets a very dangerous precedent. Where is the line drawn? For example - What if someone gets very 'springgy' legs and leaps far beyond anyone else in the high jump?

If anyone with artificial body parts win anything there would surely be uproar as to how their artificial parts assisted them.

Its not a 'pc' thing. Its not an 'equal oppurtunity' thing. Its just impossible to prove whether artificial body parts 'enhance' an athletes ability. The whole point is that everybody starts off with the same equipment - their body - and nothing else. No drugs, no 'enhancements'.

Its the thin end of the wedge. In the next 25 years great strides will be made in the whole area of 'replacement' body parts. Then like now you just cannot determine with any degree of accuracy whether such replacement parts actually enhance an athletes abilty.


There was an old Science Fiction story - I think they made it into a movie - guy in a hospital bed every time he wakes up there's another limb missing.In the end he's just a head on a torso,sadistic nurse comes around picks him up by his hair and slaps him around.The gist is this secret (Soviet then)lab is grafting prime body parts on to athletes.In the end they find it's not a unique development and two rival bloc sprinters go through the tape neck and neck still accelerating......

How do you accurately define "citius, altius, fortius" anyway?

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Oscar Pistorius on 20:51 - Aug 5 with 553 viewsJonDoeman

Our man is on, can he get the final?

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