| Cricket World Cup thread. 10:09 - May 21 with 58414 views | Snipper |
Jofra Archer has been named in the squad, and rightly so. He offers genuine pace and he’s still relatively unknown to the other teams. I don’t agree with the omission of David Willey though. I wouldn’t have had Liam Dawson. But hey ho.
This is the first round robin CWC since Australia/New Zealand in 1992. For me, that was the best CWC. Australia were big favourites, but lost their first four games. England are big favourites for this one. Let’s hope we get off to a better start.
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| Cricket World Cup thread. on 09:41 - May 22 with 2460 views | ElHoop |
| Cricket World Cup thread. on 09:24 - May 22 by plasmahoop |
I think England have got the selection right, and I hope they can win it. I've got my doubts though. We badly need wood and archer to stay fit, as without them our bowling looks like fodder. We may have beaten Pakistan 4 nil, but you can't always rely on scoring 350 plus. The ease with which they scored runs was alarming, and surely we've got a collapse or two in us. Personally I think the tournament format is great and am looking forward to it. Come on England |
That's the problem - keeping enough players fit in a squad of 15. That's not many players at all and i think that the rules state that you can't move players out of the squad and put them on the easy list for a couple of games - once they are gone they are gone. So if you've got a few niggles then eventually you either have to play one or two with those niggles or you replace them for the rest of the tournament. That might suit us on 350-400 pitches, but it won't be so good for us on 200-250 pitches, if there are any. I think that management of the squad will be vital - resting players in the easier games and keeping everyone fit enough to perform.
It's going to be tough. In a World Cup the players will be expected to perform to T20 levels of effort for 50 overs, which is hard work. Difficult to say who that will favour though - might just be down to luck at the end of the day. |  | | |
| Cricket World Cup thread. on 09:50 - May 22 with 2450 views | ElHoop |
| Cricket World Cup thread. on 09:26 - May 22 by LythamR |
i would be wary of SA . there are a bunch of players in their squad that have been in good recent form although 20/20
10/1 might be a bit tight but it wouldnt surprise me at all if they ended in the top 4 |
They've got some good players of course, but I don't think that all of their best bowlers are fit - Nortje is out, Rabada has been struggling as have one or two of the others. They didn't pick Philander either, but he's very injury prone too. I would seriously doubt whether enough of their bowlers will survive the tournament. | | | |
| Cricket World Cup thread. on 10:43 - May 22 with 2427 views | Antti_Heinola |
| Cricket World Cup thread. on 09:26 - May 22 by LythamR |
i would be wary of SA . there are a bunch of players in their squad that have been in good recent form although 20/20
10/1 might be a bit tight but it wouldnt surprise me at all if they ended in the top 4 |
Semis, as usual. |  |
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| Cricket World Cup thread. on 10:49 - May 22 with 2425 views | Antti_Heinola |
| Cricket World Cup thread. on 09:24 - May 22 by plasmahoop |
I think England have got the selection right, and I hope they can win it. I've got my doubts though. We badly need wood and archer to stay fit, as without them our bowling looks like fodder. We may have beaten Pakistan 4 nil, but you can't always rely on scoring 350 plus. The ease with which they scored runs was alarming, and surely we've got a collapse or two in us. Personally I think the tournament format is great and am looking forward to it. Come on England |
Everyone scores big totals these days - it's how the game has changed. All your bowlers will receive a tonking at some stage. I'm not sure they'll even be able to get Wood and Archer in the same team, so plenty of scope for resting them.
Don't get alarmed about leaking runs - there's no point, because every team wll leak runs! | |
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| Cricket World Cup thread. on 11:12 - May 22 with 2410 views | jonno |
| Cricket World Cup thread. on 13:41 - May 21 by stowmarketrange |
Moeen could be the weak link if our batting gets put under pressure in a vital game.We have enough players who can either get out cheaply or get a quick 70 runs.We need a bit more of an anchor man in case we’re struggling with 5 or 6 down for a low score.
His bowling and fielding almost make up for it though. |
Root should be the "anchor man" in my opinion. He is obviously a high class batsman, but should stick to playing his game, and not try to slog the ball out of the ground because it's when he starts trying that he gets himself out. With Root sticking around at one end, keeping the scoreboard ticking over and rarely allowing a dot ball but without taking on high risk slogging shots that gives licence for batters at the other end to go for the big hits; with the quality of our other batters one or two will surely always come off in any innings and that's all you need if Root hangs around for say 30/35 overs to get an unbeatable score. |  | | |
| Cricket World Cup thread. on 13:37 - May 22 with 2340 views | R_from_afar |
| Cricket World Cup thread. on 13:29 - May 21 by BlackCrowe |
There will be bugger all swing with the white ball. And not much spin on those pitches.
Speed is the need.
Think they got the selection about right. |
I hear what you are saying but spinners don't always need sideways movement to get wickets. Flight, guile, changes of pace, an arm ball can all be enough. Bishan Bedi was famous for being able to get batsmen to hit seemingly innocuous deliveries straight to strategically placed fielders and Barry Richards tells a great story about facing Benaud when he (Richards) first started his career: He came in to bat, Benaud bowled him a ball which pitched halfway down and he pulled it for four. Next ball, same story: Long hop, four. His third ball pitched in the same place but he was only half way through the shot when the ball clattered into his stumps.
Ajantha Mendis is another good example because he doesn't spin it much but the threat of some spin combined with excellent line and length makes him dangerous.
Personally, I hated batting against spinners even though I was one because you had to put the pace on the ball yourself. Fluky snicks for four - my trademark - were so much harder against the tweakers. |  |
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| Cricket World Cup thread. on 15:33 - May 22 with 2300 views | stowmarketrange |
| Cricket World Cup thread. on 11:12 - May 22 by jonno |
Root should be the "anchor man" in my opinion. He is obviously a high class batsman, but should stick to playing his game, and not try to slog the ball out of the ground because it's when he starts trying that he gets himself out. With Root sticking around at one end, keeping the scoreboard ticking over and rarely allowing a dot ball but without taking on high risk slogging shots that gives licence for batters at the other end to go for the big hits; with the quality of our other batters one or two will surely always come off in any innings and that's all you need if Root hangs around for say 30/35 overs to get an unbeatable score. |
Part of me thinks that he bats too high up the order and doesn’t score quickly enough,but the other part thinks that he almost always guarantees runs amongst the carnage at the other end.
We got out of jail against Pakistan in one game because the top order all missed out and Ali did his usual trick of getting out without scoring.
We can’t afford him to do that in a vital game is this World Cup if we want to win it.His batting has seriously fallen away in the last few months and he needs a few good scores to keep his place in the team,in my opinion. |  | | |
| Cricket World Cup thread. on 21:14 - May 22 with 2243 views | ElHoop |
DIdn't realise that there were any warm up games today but seemingly Oz played the Windies at Southampton in an 'unofficial warmup' game, which seems to be different to the ICC World Cup warm upgames which start on Saturday or the actual ODI games on Friday. Not much reporting of today's game so presumably there wasn't a crowd watching. However there seems to have been a bit more 'action' here compared to the dolly stuff which England were involved in against Pakistan.
Windies bowled out for 229 and Oz knocked these off in 38 overs but at the same time Russell got one to rear up and smash Khawaja's jaw and have him off to hospital for an x-ray. So it could be livening up a touch.
https://www.cricket.com.au/news/full-scorecard-australia-west-indies-unofficial- | | | |
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| Cricket World Cup thread. on 22:16 - May 22 with 2222 views | thame_hoops |
| Cricket World Cup thread. on 15:33 - May 22 by stowmarketrange |
Part of me thinks that he bats too high up the order and doesn’t score quickly enough,but the other part thinks that he almost always guarantees runs amongst the carnage at the other end.
We got out of jail against Pakistan in one game because the top order all missed out and Ali did his usual trick of getting out without scoring.
We can’t afford him to do that in a vital game is this World Cup if we want to win it.His batting has seriously fallen away in the last few months and he needs a few good scores to keep his place in the team,in my opinion. |
Agree about Ali, he Reminds me of hick/ramprakash who panicked under pressure |  | | |
| Cricket World Cup thread. on 10:08 - May 23 with 2155 views | Antti_Heinola |
| Cricket World Cup thread. on 15:33 - May 22 by stowmarketrange |
Part of me thinks that he bats too high up the order and doesn’t score quickly enough,but the other part thinks that he almost always guarantees runs amongst the carnage at the other end.
We got out of jail against Pakistan in one game because the top order all missed out and Ali did his usual trick of getting out without scoring.
We can’t afford him to do that in a vital game is this World Cup if we want to win it.His batting has seriously fallen away in the last few months and he needs a few good scores to keep his place in the team,in my opinion. |
I think you need Root where he is - he's perfect there. And it's not like he scores slowly.
Stats are interesting - his strike rate of 87 is the lowest in the squad (except Dawson, who's barely played ODIs for England). But he averages over 50. Only Bairstow is even close to that.
Phenomenal player - and a key one. | |
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| Cricket World Cup thread. on 10:53 - May 23 with 2142 views | jonno |
| Cricket World Cup thread. on 10:08 - May 23 by Antti_Heinola |
I think you need Root where he is - he's perfect there. And it's not like he scores slowly.
Stats are interesting - his strike rate of 87 is the lowest in the squad (except Dawson, who's barely played ODIs for England). But he averages over 50. Only Bairstow is even close to that.
Phenomenal player - and a key one. |
Exactly my point. An excellent, classical batsman who keeps the scoreboard ticking over and revolves the strike (which can be important in messing the bowlers about, particularly with a left hander at the other end). He has the ability to hang around for a lot of overs, but as I say he needs to play sensibly, in his own style. Slogging is not his game - and when he joins in with that he inevitably gets out. If he can avoid the temptation then he gives us a massive advantage. | | | |
| (No subject) (n/t) on 09:41 - May 24 with 2046 views | thame_hoops |
| Cricket World Cup thread. on 10:53 - May 23 by jonno |
Exactly my point. An excellent, classical batsman who keeps the scoreboard ticking over and revolves the strike (which can be important in messing the bowlers about, particularly with a left hander at the other end). He has the ability to hang around for a lot of overs, but as I say he needs to play sensibly, in his own style. Slogging is not his game - and when he joins in with that he inevitably gets out. If he can avoid the temptation then he gives us a massive advantage. |
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| Cricket World Cup thread. on 12:20 - May 25 with 1988 views | thame_hoops |
A few injury scares already, anyone else going to the oval Monday? | | | |
| Cricket World Cup thread. on 11:12 - May 30 with 1871 views | CamberleyR |
Decent start after Bairstow going early. |  |
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| Cricket World Cup thread. on 11:57 - May 30 with 1812 views | MrSheen |
2 down in four balls. Tiits up, or time for the rampage? |  | | |
| Cricket World Cup thread. on 12:03 - May 30 with 1806 views | CamberleyR |
If you think you're going along okay, the old saying of add two wickets to the score holding true. | |
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| Cricket World Cup thread. on 12:04 - May 30 with 1802 views | ElHoop |
Anything over 300 will be good enough here, but will we get it? | | | |
| Cricket World Cup thread. on 12:10 - May 30 with 1793 views | jonno |
A pity Root has gone - he was looking good for a ton which would allow some big slogging at the other end. Rash shot has got him out - he needs to keep his shots under control, doesn't need to hit the boundaries, just punish the bad ball and keep the score board ticking with singles. | | | |
| Cricket World Cup thread. on 13:27 - May 30 with 1713 views | stowmarketrange |
Ta all my fault.Since I got up they’ve lost 2 wickets and hardly scored a run.
Make that 4 wickets for 60 runs in 12 overs. [Post edited 30 May 2019 14:03]
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| Cricket World Cup thread. on 13:37 - May 30 with 1689 views | ElHoop |
I think that we're fine here. SA won't get past 250.
This is the World Cup not some pub game/series to fill gaps in Sky's schedules. | | | |
| Cricket World Cup thread. on 13:48 - May 30 with 1670 views | CliveWilsonSaid |
| Cricket World Cup thread. on 13:37 - May 30 by ElHoop |
I think that we're fine here. SA won't get past 250.
This is the World Cup not some pub game/series to fill gaps in Sky's schedules. |
BBC currently reporting this as an ‘England collapse’. A bit harsh! |  |
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| Cricket World Cup thread. on 14:12 - May 30 with 1636 views | jonno |
| Cricket World Cup thread. on 13:48 - May 30 by CliveWilsonSaid |
BBC currently reporting this as an ‘England collapse’. A bit harsh! |
Yes, but it's a pretty unimpressive batting performance by England. They may still win but they will need to bowl well on a decent batting pitch. | | | |
| Cricket World Cup thread. on 16:27 - May 30 with 1543 views | BlackCrowe |
| Cricket World Cup thread. on 14:12 - May 30 by jonno |
Yes, but it's a pretty unimpressive batting performance by England. They may still win but they will need to bowl well on a decent batting pitch. |
Think England got a par score. |  |
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| Cricket World Cup thread. on 17:18 - May 30 with 1490 views | MrSheen |
Ben Stokes catch! Can't even describe it. | | | |
| Cricket World Cup thread. on 17:22 - May 30 with 1485 views | CliveWilsonSaid |
| Cricket World Cup thread. on 17:18 - May 30 by MrSheen |
Ben Stokes catch! Can't even describe it. |
Not bad, not bad ;)
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