| If Cullen Goes - Then Surely No One Can Defend The Owners ?? 21:36 - Dec 31 with 5803 views | STID2017 |
Cullen is a useful squad player who if sold would fetch a minimal fee and if offered a new contract it would still be a comparatively low salary.
Therefore if the owners sell him then it surely clear to everyone they are asset stripping and nothing else ?
Clearly a time for a change.
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| If Cullen Goes - Then Surely No One Can Defend The Owners ?? on 21:39 - Dec 31 with 4442 views | builthjack |
This next month will see what they are made of G [Post edited 31 Dec 2023 21:40]
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| If Cullen Goes - Then Surely No One Can Defend The Owners ?? on 21:42 - Dec 31 with 4426 views | QJumpingJack |
If they sell him and replace him with a better player then it could be a very small step in the right direction. But I doubt they are capable of finding someone better.
This window will all be about "player trading" and "assessing our assets" |  | | |
| If Cullen Goes - Then Surely No One Can Defend The Owners ?? on 22:02 - Dec 31 with 4381 views | RichardO |
If Ashby is no longer on ourr books an extra right back might be useful | | | |
| If Cullen Goes - Then Surely No One Can Defend The Owners ?? on 05:52 - Jan 1 with 4204 views | angryjack |
| If Cullen Goes - Then Surely No One Can Defend The Owners ?? on 21:39 - Dec 31 by builthjack |
This next month will see what they are made of G [Post edited 31 Dec 2023 21:40]
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Fans been saying that every window..when people going wake up | | | |
| If Cullen Goes - Then Surely No One Can Defend The Owners ?? on 07:09 - Jan 1 with 4194 views | jack247 |
| If Cullen Goes - Then Surely No One Can Defend The Owners ?? on 05:52 - Jan 1 by angryjack |
Fans been saying that every window..when people going wake up |
100%. They’ve been ‘learning from mistakes’ then repeating them for 6 years or so now. | | | |
| If Cullen Goes - Then Surely No One Can Defend The Owners ?? on 08:24 - Jan 1 with 4173 views | BillyChong |
Bidwell left for a ‘nominal fee’ undisclosed. In a January window after banging one in a month or so earlier against Cardiff. He had featured in pretty much every game to that point. | | | |
| If Cullen Goes - Then Surely No One Can Defend The Owners ?? on 11:55 - Jan 1 with 4059 views | STID2017 |
| If Cullen Goes - Then Surely No One Can Defend The Owners ?? on 08:24 - Jan 1 by BillyChong |
Bidwell left for a ‘nominal fee’ undisclosed. In a January window after banging one in a month or so earlier against Cardiff. He had featured in pretty much every game to that point. |
I would not be shocked to see history repeat itself with Cullen | |
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| If Cullen Goes - Then Surely No One Can Defend The Owners ?? on 16:20 - Jan 1 with 3953 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| If Cullen Goes - Then Surely No One Can Defend The Owners ?? on 21:42 - Dec 31 by QJumpingJack |
If they sell him and replace him with a better player then it could be a very small step in the right direction. But I doubt they are capable of finding someone better.
This window will all be about "player trading" and "assessing our assets" |
Presumably this could be like Latibeaudiere. The players agent will want £10k a week and that is way too much for a player that does up to now not score enough. The player will ask for a wage that is not justifiable with his form. (as with JL) .
I believe he should be paid around £5-6k a week with a rise if he scores and assists more regularly. He should be 10 goals a season regular for the big money. When he gets there pay him. He is now 24. |  |
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| If Cullen Goes - Then Surely No One Can Defend The Owners ?? on 17:04 - Jan 1 with 3911 views | vetchonian |
I would think after Friday and today his price will have gone up | |
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| If Cullen Goes - Then Surely No One Can Defend The Owners ?? on 17:42 - Jan 1 with 3853 views | Whiterockin |
| If Cullen Goes - Then Surely No One Can Defend The Owners ?? on 17:04 - Jan 1 by vetchonian |
I would think after Friday and today his price will have gone up |
Any club that plays him properly will reap the rewards. |  | | |
| If Cullen Goes - Then Surely No One Can Defend The Owners ?? on 18:26 - Jan 1 with 3803 views | jack247 |
| If Cullen Goes - Then Surely No One Can Defend The Owners ?? on 16:20 - Jan 1 by ReslovenSwan1 |
Presumably this could be like Latibeaudiere. The players agent will want £10k a week and that is way too much for a player that does up to now not score enough. The player will ask for a wage that is not justifiable with his form. (as with JL) .
I believe he should be paid around £5-6k a week with a rise if he scores and assists more regularly. He should be 10 goals a season regular for the big money. When he gets there pay him. He is now 24. |
You don’t know what the players agent would want or what Liam himself would settle for. | | | |
| If Cullen Goes - Then Surely No One Can Defend The Owners ?? on 18:27 - Jan 1 with 3790 views | KeithHaynes |
| If Cullen Goes - Then Surely No One Can Defend The Owners ?? on 18:26 - Jan 1 by jack247 |
You don’t know what the players agent would want or what Liam himself would settle for. |
He’s on not a lot mate, we could triple it easily.
Not suggesting we do mind. |  |
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| If Cullen Goes - Then Surely No One Can Defend The Owners ?? on 18:29 - Jan 1 with 3782 views | RichardO |
One or two things need to be sort soon! | | | |
| If Cullen Goes - Then Surely No One Can Defend The Owners ?? on 18:31 - Jan 1 with 3774 views | jack247 |
| If Cullen Goes - Then Surely No One Can Defend The Owners ?? on 18:27 - Jan 1 by KeithHaynes |
He’s on not a lot mate, we could triple it easily.
Not suggesting we do mind. |
Sure. I’d like us to try to keep him, but he’s not a break the bank type player.
His agent will ask for £10k and the player will want more than he merits is just making stuff up though. There’s no presumably about it, the guy has no idea what Cullen would want or what the club would be happy to pay him. | | | |
| If Cullen Goes - Then Surely No One Can Defend The Owners ?? on 19:13 - Jan 1 with 3705 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| If Cullen Goes - Then Surely No One Can Defend The Owners ?? on 18:31 - Jan 1 by jack247 |
Sure. I’d like us to try to keep him, but he’s not a break the bank type player.
His agent will ask for £10k and the player will want more than he merits is just making stuff up though. There’s no presumably about it, the guy has no idea what Cullen would want or what the club would be happy to pay him. |
This is a thread and in none of the other posts no mention of money was made. something "generic" only. Money is the key issue. He will leave if he demands too much and he will stay if he finds an acceptable figure.
Keith put up a chart on what he is thought to be on. £2,500 a week. Not sure a how accurate this is? . It looks pretty reasonable to me. He was only 21 when he signed that and has improved since.
Where money is concerned I do not mind speculating. Fans call the owners 'tight-fisted' but would they offer £10,000 p.w. for Cullen? . I would not. I gave reasons why. This money is for strikers who score 10 goals a season with 10 assists.
When he hits those targets the money will come.
You say "the guy (me) has no idea what Cullen would want or what the club would be happy to pay him". I think i do and I have posted it. Offer him £5-6k a week he has earned with an upgrade if he gets 10/10 goals /assists.
What would you offer him Jack247? I refer you to the chart Keith put up for relative wages. | |
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| If Cullen Goes - Then Surely No One Can Defend The Owners ?? on 19:20 - Jan 1 with 3692 views | jack247 |
| If Cullen Goes - Then Surely No One Can Defend The Owners ?? on 19:13 - Jan 1 by ReslovenSwan1 |
This is a thread and in none of the other posts no mention of money was made. something "generic" only. Money is the key issue. He will leave if he demands too much and he will stay if he finds an acceptable figure.
Keith put up a chart on what he is thought to be on. £2,500 a week. Not sure a how accurate this is? . It looks pretty reasonable to me. He was only 21 when he signed that and has improved since.
Where money is concerned I do not mind speculating. Fans call the owners 'tight-fisted' but would they offer £10,000 p.w. for Cullen? . I would not. I gave reasons why. This money is for strikers who score 10 goals a season with 10 assists.
When he hits those targets the money will come.
You say "the guy (me) has no idea what Cullen would want or what the club would be happy to pay him". I think i do and I have posted it. Offer him £5-6k a week he has earned with an upgrade if he gets 10/10 goals /assists.
What would you offer him Jack247? I refer you to the chart Keith put up for relative wages. |
What I’d offer him is not the point. Like yourself, I don’t know what he would earn elsewhere or what the club deem reasonable.
His agent would ask for £10k a week and the player would demand more than he’s worth are the statements I’m querying.
There’s a difference between speculating and just making stuff up without basis. The fact is, I’ve no idea what his demands would be and neither do you. Writing ‘presumably’ doesn’t change that. | | | |
| If Cullen Goes - Then Surely No One Can Defend The Owners ?? on 19:37 - Jan 1 with 3659 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| If Cullen Goes - Then Surely No One Can Defend The Owners ?? on 19:20 - Jan 1 by jack247 |
What I’d offer him is not the point. Like yourself, I don’t know what he would earn elsewhere or what the club deem reasonable.
His agent would ask for £10k a week and the player would demand more than he’s worth are the statements I’m querying.
There’s a difference between speculating and just making stuff up without basis. The fact is, I’ve no idea what his demands would be and neither do you. Writing ‘presumably’ doesn’t change that. |
Forums would be pretty dull places if speculation was discouraged or banned. It is a forum. Go to BBC for all the facts you require.
If Cullen is sold for £500k (say) this forum would accuse the club of money grabbing and selling out. If the player however has demanded much more than he is worth then selling is the correct thing to do. Look at the title of the OP.
I have speculated on the basis of the figures available. You might say it is the matter for the owners. There are people on here who are 'notional' owners being members of the Trust. They have a direct link to the boardroom.
You a have a right to say "you have no idea". Good for you. I have considered it you have not. [Post edited 1 Jan 19:38]
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| If Cullen Goes - Then Surely No One Can Defend The Owners ?? on 19:43 - Jan 1 with 3637 views | jack247 |
| If Cullen Goes - Then Surely No One Can Defend The Owners ?? on 19:37 - Jan 1 by ReslovenSwan1 |
Forums would be pretty dull places if speculation was discouraged or banned. It is a forum. Go to BBC for all the facts you require.
If Cullen is sold for £500k (say) this forum would accuse the club of money grabbing and selling out. If the player however has demanded much more than he is worth then selling is the correct thing to do. Look at the title of the OP.
I have speculated on the basis of the figures available. You might say it is the matter for the owners. There are people on here who are 'notional' owners being members of the Trust. They have a direct link to the boardroom.
You a have a right to say "you have no idea". Good for you. I have considered it you have not. [Post edited 1 Jan 19:38]
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There’s a difference between reasonable speculation and ‘the players agent will want £10k per week.’
You’re bright enough to understand that. | | | |
| If Cullen Goes - Then Surely No One Can Defend The Owners ?? on 20:49 - Jan 1 with 3567 views | Dr_Winston |
I don't think Cullen is a particuarly good player. Despite an admirable work rate his all round game is pretty woeful, certainly worse than the much maligned Jerry Yates, who remains our top scorer.
He's improved from where he was Eighteen months or so ago, but he's not a player I'd lose much sleep over seeing move on if a replacement was forthcoming. |  |
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| If Cullen Goes - Then Surely No One Can Defend The Owners ?? on 20:55 - Jan 1 with 3547 views | swancity |
Woeful? That’s nonsense as usual. He’s a useful player who has a natural instinct in front of goal. He’s improving and might well make it at this level. | |
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| If Cullen Goes - Then Surely No One Can Defend The Owners ?? on 21:06 - Jan 1 with 3521 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| If Cullen Goes - Then Surely No One Can Defend The Owners ?? on 19:43 - Jan 1 by jack247 |
There’s a difference between reasonable speculation and ‘the players agent will want £10k per week.’
You’re bright enough to understand that. |
I respectfully disagree. Cullen (and this is not saying much) is the best local centre forward produced by the club in 20 years since Jason Bowen. He improves iteratively every season up to now.
It is 'perfectly reasonable' for me to speculate that his agent would ask for pay parity with the likes of Fisher Fulton and Tymon. If Cullen wants to stay this is the top shelf figure his agent would aim for in my opinion. He might settle for quite a bit less unless someone else (like Stoke) pay this wage.
I have seen Cullen wack in two beautiful free kicks now and he is known to be extremely practice oriented. He could develop into the clubs set piece man. Not had a good one since Sigurdson. | |
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| If Cullen Goes - Then Surely No One Can Defend The Owners ?? on 00:30 - Jan 2 with 3385 views | STID2017 |
| If Cullen Goes - Then Surely No One Can Defend The Owners ?? on 19:37 - Jan 1 by ReslovenSwan1 |
Forums would be pretty dull places if speculation was discouraged or banned. It is a forum. Go to BBC for all the facts you require.
If Cullen is sold for £500k (say) this forum would accuse the club of money grabbing and selling out. If the player however has demanded much more than he is worth then selling is the correct thing to do. Look at the title of the OP.
I have speculated on the basis of the figures available. You might say it is the matter for the owners. There are people on here who are 'notional' owners being members of the Trust. They have a direct link to the boardroom.
You a have a right to say "you have no idea". Good for you. I have considered it you have not. [Post edited 1 Jan 19:38]
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Just to clarify my OP is suggesting the club offer Cullen a reasonable contract which I have no doubt he would accept, however my expectations are that this will not happen.
I expect him to be sold for a relative pittance "to balance the books"
Again you cannot post on one thread without bringing up the Trust.
Please clarify what part of how the current (mostly) American owners act in this window will involve the Trust?
Also not sure if you are using a spell checker and a thesaurus as your posts have altered in style and spelling over the past few weeks ? | |
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| If Cullen Goes - Then Surely No One Can Defend The Owners ?? on 09:01 - Jan 2 with 3292 views | jack247 |
| If Cullen Goes - Then Surely No One Can Defend The Owners ?? on 21:06 - Jan 1 by ReslovenSwan1 |
I respectfully disagree. Cullen (and this is not saying much) is the best local centre forward produced by the club in 20 years since Jason Bowen. He improves iteratively every season up to now.
It is 'perfectly reasonable' for me to speculate that his agent would ask for pay parity with the likes of Fisher Fulton and Tymon. If Cullen wants to stay this is the top shelf figure his agent would aim for in my opinion. He might settle for quite a bit less unless someone else (like Stoke) pay this wage.
I have seen Cullen wack in two beautiful free kicks now and he is known to be extremely practice oriented. He could develop into the clubs set piece man. Not had a good one since Sigurdson. |
Ok. If it’s perfectly reasonable for you to speculate, it’s also fair for me to point out you’re just guessing, which you usually are.
The way you often construct your posts implies you actually have subject knowledge, which is misleading. | | | |
| If Cullen Goes - Then Surely No One Can Defend The Owners ?? on 09:26 - Jan 2 with 3271 views | jackrmee |
| If Cullen Goes - Then Surely No One Can Defend The Owners ?? on 19:37 - Jan 1 by ReslovenSwan1 |
Forums would be pretty dull places if speculation was discouraged or banned. It is a forum. Go to BBC for all the facts you require.
If Cullen is sold for £500k (say) this forum would accuse the club of money grabbing and selling out. If the player however has demanded much more than he is worth then selling is the correct thing to do. Look at the title of the OP.
I have speculated on the basis of the figures available. You might say it is the matter for the owners. There are people on here who are 'notional' owners being members of the Trust. They have a direct link to the boardroom.
You a have a right to say "you have no idea". Good for you. I have considered it you have not. [Post edited 1 Jan 19:38]
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We should never have let players like this run their contracts down.
If he’s on £2k a week, we should have given him an extension long ago.
We cannot afford to lose a cheap player with so many attributes.
He may not be Joel Piroe, but he does a job, he scores goals, he works harder than most of the rest of the squad, he knows the club inside out, all recent managers have liked him and given him chances, he’s loyal as fk, and I could go on.
He’s been basically doing voluntary work for us, compared to the rest of the squad.
He absolutely deserves an extension.
If he doesn’t get one at a wage of less than £10k, then it’s a total fail and the yanks will get stick again, which they will deserve.
I don’t believe the lad will request more money than he deserves, unless he gets an offer from another club in January as a free agent.
And if that happens, it’s the fault of the yanks for not tying him down sooner. They could have easily extended by a year or 2, whilst doubling his wage to £5k.
He bloody well deserves that!
Losing the lad for £500k or whatever we would get for a fringe player who is allowed to speak to clubs as a free agent now would be scandalous and another inept move by these charlatans who run our club |  |
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| If Cullen Goes - Then Surely No One Can Defend The Owners ?? on 09:28 - Jan 2 with 3270 views | jackrmee |
| If Cullen Goes - Then Surely No One Can Defend The Owners ?? on 20:49 - Jan 1 by Dr_Winston |
I don't think Cullen is a particuarly good player. Despite an admirable work rate his all round game is pretty woeful, certainly worse than the much maligned Jerry Yates, who remains our top scorer.
He's improved from where he was Eighteen months or so ago, but he's not a player I'd lose much sleep over seeing move on if a replacement was forthcoming. |
You think there are replacements in the same mould/quality, for £2.5k a week? | |
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