| Swansea City have been found out - and they won’t like this either on 13:06 - Dec 28 with 1907 views | Whiterockin |
I'm looking forward to part three.
One question why do we expect top compensation for Martin then refuse to pay it for a decent manager ourselves. |  | |  |
| Swansea City have been found out - and they won’t like this either on 13:18 - Dec 28 with 1842 views | PawelAbbott |
The value of the Owners investment relies solely on the success on the pitch.
A better chairman, or in the case of Gude, the success of the guy who puts the kettle on for the Chairman, can squeeze a few more quid out of marketing. But, the big money is made from on pitch success.
So, why scrimp on the managers pay and spend considerably more on the Chairman's?
It's the same with the DoF. Get rid of him and use the money to bring in a better manager. At least then he can bring in players he is going to use |  | | |
| Swansea City have been found out - and they won’t like this either on 13:24 - Dec 28 with 1821 views | KeithHaynes |
| Swansea City have been found out - and they won’t like this either on 13:06 - Dec 28 by Whiterockin |
I'm looking forward to part three.
One question why do we expect top compensation for Martin then refuse to pay it for a decent manager ourselves. |
A few technicalities to clear up 👍 |  |
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| Swansea City have been found out - and they won’t like this either on 13:25 - Dec 28 with 1817 views | Fireboy2 |
| Swansea City have been found out - and they won’t like this either on 13:18 - Dec 28 by PawelAbbott |
The value of the Owners investment relies solely on the success on the pitch.
A better chairman, or in the case of Gude, the success of the guy who puts the kettle on for the Chairman, can squeeze a few more quid out of marketing. But, the big money is made from on pitch success.
So, why scrimp on the managers pay and spend considerably more on the Chairman's?
It's the same with the DoF. Get rid of him and use the money to bring in a better manager. At least then he can bring in players he is going to use |
1 million quid a year for coleman and gude, 100k for cooper, I suspect Martin and duff probably on similar.
Read that again and let it sink in, these lot don't give a flying f@#£ about the football club and its fans, they are looking after each other. |  | | |
| Swansea City have been found out - and they won’t like this either on 13:28 - Dec 28 with 1806 views | KeithHaynes |
| Swansea City have been found out - and they won’t like this either on 13:25 - Dec 28 by Fireboy2 |
1 million quid a year for coleman and gude, 100k for cooper, I suspect Martin and duff probably on similar.
Read that again and let it sink in, these lot don't give a flying f@#£ about the football club and its fans, they are looking after each other. |
Actually they dig a bit deeper for Duff, Martin double that but it’s still exceptionally cheap pay for the position. There are league two managers on more. | |
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| Swansea City have been found out - and they won’t like this either on 13:44 - Dec 28 with 1737 views | PawelAbbott |
Coleman might be on £500k but surely Santa's Little Helper is not on the same amount | | | |
| Swansea City have been found out - and they won’t like this either on 13:55 - Dec 28 with 1705 views | Whiterockin |
| Swansea City have been found out - and they won’t like this either on 13:44 - Dec 28 by PawelAbbott |
Coleman might be on £500k but surely Santa's Little Helper is not on the same amount |
The expenses for these two families are massive. House rental, cars, children in private education ect ect. These expenses alone are much more than your average season ticket holder could dream of earning in a year. | | | |
| Swansea City have been found out - and they won’t like this either on 14:10 - Dec 28 with 1668 views | jack247 |
| Swansea City have been found out - and they won’t like this either on 13:18 - Dec 28 by PawelAbbott |
The value of the Owners investment relies solely on the success on the pitch.
A better chairman, or in the case of Gude, the success of the guy who puts the kettle on for the Chairman, can squeeze a few more quid out of marketing. But, the big money is made from on pitch success.
So, why scrimp on the managers pay and spend considerably more on the Chairman's?
It's the same with the DoF. Get rid of him and use the money to bring in a better manager. At least then he can bring in players he is going to use |
You could apply that to players too.
Conservatively £6m spent this summer, yet we can’t afford to bring Chris Davies in, whilst those same players (Key excepted) flounder under a caretaker manager who, by his own admission, isn’t ready yet. | | | |
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| Swansea City have been found out - and they won’t like this either on 14:13 - Dec 28 with 1655 views | Chippy69 |
Really had enough of the b@stards now  |  |
| They make us feel indebted
For saving us from hell
And then they put us through it
It's time the bastards fell
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| Swansea City have been found out - and they won’t like this either on 14:18 - Dec 28 with 1635 views | Headmaster |
Keep up the good work, Keith. Keep shining the light on them. Sunlight is the best disinfectant. |  | | |
| Swansea City have been found out - and they won’t like this either on 14:34 - Dec 28 with 1562 views | Whiterockin |
| Swansea City have been found out - and they won’t like this either on 14:10 - Dec 28 by jack247 |
You could apply that to players too.
Conservatively £6m spent this summer, yet we can’t afford to bring Chris Davies in, whilst those same players (Key excepted) flounder under a caretaker manager who, by his own admission, isn’t ready yet. |
Take Yates for example he cost £2.5M and playing like a £500K player. Either an almighty cock up by the expensive decision makers or a coach/manager not playing him to his potential. If it's the latter, paying a coach to have players playing at their full potential is chicken feed compared to the loss of player value throughout the squad. Simple business and football sense of which our owners seem to have neither. | | | |
| Swansea City have been found out - and they won’t like this either on 14:52 - Dec 28 with 1496 views | BillyChong |
| Swansea City have been found out - and they won’t like this either on 14:10 - Dec 28 by jack247 |
You could apply that to players too.
Conservatively £6m spent this summer, yet we can’t afford to bring Chris Davies in, whilst those same players (Key excepted) flounder under a caretaker manager who, by his own admission, isn’t ready yet. |
Nor afford to retain decent players.
The Coleman / Gude package is criminal given their lack of experience with the job in hand. | | | |
| Swansea City have been found out - and they won’t like this either on 15:11 - Dec 28 with 1415 views | onehunglow |
Which ever way one looks at it,this is a tough read . | |
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| Swansea City have been found out - and they won’t like this either on 15:26 - Dec 28 with 1350 views | SullutaCreturned |
| Swansea City have been found out - and they won’t like this either on 14:34 - Dec 28 by Whiterockin |
Take Yates for example he cost £2.5M and playing like a £500K player. Either an almighty cock up by the expensive decision makers or a coach/manager not playing him to his potential. If it's the latter, paying a coach to have players playing at their full potential is chicken feed compared to the loss of player value throughout the squad. Simple business and football sense of which our owners seem to have neither. |
We haven't even tried Yates playing off Kukharevych. Sheehan admits he's not ready but he may as well just look on here for ideas because there have been plenty thrown out there and I'm sure a few of the changes us know nothing fans come out with might work.
On Gude and Coleman, what a pair of no hope, take us nowhere but down, Albatross around our necks losers they are. If Levein is really puling all the strings then why are we paying so much out for this pair who are little more than stooges?
The owners are know nothing, pointless, club destroying Albatrosses too. | | | |
| Swansea City have been found out - and they won’t like this either on 15:30 - Dec 28 with 1340 views | onehunglow |
| Swansea City have been found out - and they won’t like this either on 15:26 - Dec 28 by SullutaCreturned |
We haven't even tried Yates playing off Kukharevych. Sheehan admits he's not ready but he may as well just look on here for ideas because there have been plenty thrown out there and I'm sure a few of the changes us know nothing fans come out with might work.
On Gude and Coleman, what a pair of no hope, take us nowhere but down, Albatross around our necks losers they are. If Levein is really puling all the strings then why are we paying so much out for this pair who are little more than stooges?
The owners are know nothing, pointless, club destroying Albatrosses too. |
Both not ready really. | |
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| Swansea City have been found out - and they won’t like this either on 15:41 - Dec 28 with 1313 views | Whiterockin |
| Swansea City have been found out - and they won’t like this either on 15:26 - Dec 28 by SullutaCreturned |
We haven't even tried Yates playing off Kukharevych. Sheehan admits he's not ready but he may as well just look on here for ideas because there have been plenty thrown out there and I'm sure a few of the changes us know nothing fans come out with might work.
On Gude and Coleman, what a pair of no hope, take us nowhere but down, Albatross around our necks losers they are. If Levein is really puling all the strings then why are we paying so much out for this pair who are little more than stooges?
The owners are know nothing, pointless, club destroying Albatrosses too. |
He should have had a look on Tuesday when he had the chance, 20 minutes of the two together would have made no difference to the result. Taking Yates off on the hour and bringing Kukharevych for the last 10 minutes he missed an opportunity. | | | |
| Swansea City have been found out - and they won’t like this either on 17:49 - Dec 28 with 1075 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| Swansea City have been found out - and they won’t like this either on 14:52 - Dec 28 by BillyChong |
Nor afford to retain decent players.
The Coleman / Gude package is criminal given their lack of experience with the job in hand. |
Nobody actually knows what they are being paid or whether private school fees are included. If Mr Dinnen came back the cynics would be saying "pay peanuts expect monkeys". (I think Mr. Dineen is a true club hero by the way).
What I do know is that Morris and Levien are putting their faith in them and expect results. If they do not do well they will be gone. Coleman knows it. That is why he was a little early in recognising his mistake with Duff.
No one on here joins me in discussing the SCST who £400,000 blew on legal advice and agencies. Birch allowed the the BLM to access the players and the training centre and the media group without any due diligence. [Post edited 28 Dec 2023 17:55]
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| Swansea City have been found out - and they won’t like this either on 18:00 - Dec 28 with 1054 views | BillyChong |
| Swansea City have been found out - and they won’t like this either on 17:49 - Dec 28 by ReslovenSwan1 |
Nobody actually knows what they are being paid or whether private school fees are included. If Mr Dinnen came back the cynics would be saying "pay peanuts expect monkeys". (I think Mr. Dineen is a true club hero by the way).
What I do know is that Morris and Levien are putting their faith in them and expect results. If they do not do well they will be gone. Coleman knows it. That is why he was a little early in recognising his mistake with Duff.
No one on here joins me in discussing the SCST who £400,000 blew on legal advice and agencies. Birch allowed the the BLM to access the players and the training centre and the media group without any due diligence. [Post edited 28 Dec 2023 17:55]
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The owners have blown more than £400k on kangaroo loans dating back to 2017. Bony, Ayew, Rodon, Mesa and other sales were all borrowed against. 6-7% interest quoted as being charged on some of the arrangements. What about the 5% interest on Silverstein’s convertible note? No one knows if he waivered it or not. | | | |
| Swansea City have been found out - and they won’t like this either on 18:11 - Dec 28 with 1025 views | nantywatcher |
| Swansea City have been found out - and they won’t like this either on 14:34 - Dec 28 by Whiterockin |
Take Yates for example he cost £2.5M and playing like a £500K player. Either an almighty cock up by the expensive decision makers or a coach/manager not playing him to his potential. If it's the latter, paying a coach to have players playing at their full potential is chicken feed compared to the loss of player value throughout the squad. Simple business and football sense of which our owners seem to have neither. |
I have already hinted at an alternative answer to this conundrum | | | |
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