| Terry Connor - Wolves on 22:57 - Apr 10 with 4546 views | CHUBBS |
Sack Rhino skinned Mcarthey and bring in a softly spoken fella who doesn't like the limelight?
They couldn't have picked a worse man for the job.Good for us that they did though  |  | |  |
| Terry Connor - Wolves on 23:03 - Apr 10 with 4511 views | slranger40 |
| Terry Connor - Wolves on 22:57 - Apr 10 by CHUBBS |
Sack Rhino skinned Mcarthey and bring in a softly spoken fella who doesn't like the limelight?
They couldn't have picked a worse man for the job.Good for us that they did though |
He looks like a man on the verge of a nervous breakdown.
Can't imagine what he will be like when the numbers confirm they are down.
His team talks must be a right barrel of laughs.. "please lads, please put the ball between the posts and I beg you not let the evil opposition put the ball in our net"
Good grief. |  | | |
| Terry Connor - Wolves on 23:07 - Apr 10 with 4493 views | DaiHo0p |
When MOTD does it Black n White turn to Colour title sequence thing, it's like watching ROOTS, when the series skips a generation..... |  | | |
| Terry Connor - Wolves on 23:18 - Apr 10 with 4450 views | ted_hendrix |
There have been reports of training ground punch ups, also they brought In Johnson and made him captain and Johnson Is not liked by most of the Wolves players.
All good news of course.
One down, two to go. |  |
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| Terry Connor - Wolves on 23:23 - Apr 10 with 4434 views | W7Ranger |
| Terry Connor - Wolves on 23:18 - Apr 10 by ted_hendrix |
There have been reports of training ground punch ups, also they brought In Johnson and made him captain and Johnson Is not liked by most of the Wolves players.
All good news of course.
One down, two to go. |
Why is he not liked?
I also don't get why Henessey was mouthing off to him during that game a couple of weeks ago. Seemed completely out of the blue and unjustified. Unless like you say there are some "off the field" issues festering??? Still, who cares??? Keep it up!
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| Terry Connor - Wolves on 23:28 - Apr 10 with 4417 views | TGRRRSSS |
Johnsons wife tweeted the other week maning her other half had been dropped.
Think Johnson isn't popular at Wolves, not sure why but he isn't.
As for Connor, was number 2 with McCarthy, they cocked up not getting a new bloke in, as a result they have same team as before minus the experience Mccarthy had as a manager now they've a rookie who's out of his depth. |  | | |
| Terry Connor - Wolves on 23:31 - Apr 10 with 4405 views | DaiHo0p |
| Terry Connor - Wolves on 23:28 - Apr 10 by TGRRRSSS |
Johnsons wife tweeted the other week maning her other half had been dropped.
Think Johnson isn't popular at Wolves, not sure why but he isn't.
As for Connor, was number 2 with McCarthy, they cocked up not getting a new bloke in, as a result they have same team as before minus the experience Mccarthy had as a manager now they've a rookie who's out of his depth. |
What does maning your other half include? | | | |
| Terry Connor - Wolves on 00:06 - Apr 11 with 4347 views | zicoshoops |
Connor is a Coach not a Manager, and has been hung out to dry, which obviously does us a favour.
The Owner saw what Sunderland did and thought he would get the same result.
(thank F**k we didn't do that eh)
Johnson?
Well......
Turning up for training the worse for wear doesn't exactly help the cause. | | | |
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| Terry Connor - Wolves on 00:15 - Apr 11 with 4329 views | N12Hoop |
| Terry Connor - Wolves on 00:06 - Apr 11 by zicoshoops |
Connor is a Coach not a Manager, and has been hung out to dry, which obviously does us a favour.
The Owner saw what Sunderland did and thought he would get the same result.
(thank F**k we didn't do that eh)
Johnson?
Well......
Turning up for training the worse for wear doesn't exactly help the cause. |
Weren't we strongly linked with Johnson? Glad we didn't get him. Not impressed with him at all. |  |
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| Terry Connor - Wolves on 00:20 - Apr 11 with 4318 views | W7Ranger |
| Terry Connor - Wolves on 00:06 - Apr 11 by zicoshoops |
Connor is a Coach not a Manager, and has been hung out to dry, which obviously does us a favour.
The Owner saw what Sunderland did and thought he would get the same result.
(thank F**k we didn't do that eh)
Johnson?
Well......
Turning up for training the worse for wear doesn't exactly help the cause. |
Could've hung out with Keith Curle then!!  | | | |
| Terry Connor - Wolves on 08:45 - Apr 11 with 4134 views | Lewes_r |
Nah cant see it they are shit |  |
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| Terry Connor - Wolves on 09:00 - Apr 11 with 4110 views | Tonto |
I feel really sorry for Connor. one of those really good "one club" men thats been with Wolves since the year dot and does his job without complaining.
Now he's been given an impossible job, one thats likley to result in him being fired. Fired from that same club he has shown loyalty to (somethign that doesn't exist very often in football). And I doubt he will get another job in football - at least at the same level - again.
Now I accept he could have said no - but then again where would that leave Wolves? |  |
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| Terry Connor - Wolves on 09:25 - Apr 11 with 4080 views | Hayesender |
| Terry Connor - Wolves on 09:00 - Apr 11 by Tonto |
I feel really sorry for Connor. one of those really good "one club" men thats been with Wolves since the year dot and does his job without complaining.
Now he's been given an impossible job, one thats likley to result in him being fired. Fired from that same club he has shown loyalty to (somethign that doesn't exist very often in football). And I doubt he will get another job in football - at least at the same level - again.
Now I accept he could have said no - but then again where would that leave Wolves? |
As soon as Mick McCarthy gets another job, Conner will go with him |  |
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| Terry Connor - Wolves on 09:47 - Apr 11 with 4052 views | Jamie |
| Terry Connor - Wolves on 09:00 - Apr 11 by Tonto |
I feel really sorry for Connor. one of those really good "one club" men thats been with Wolves since the year dot and does his job without complaining.
Now he's been given an impossible job, one thats likley to result in him being fired. Fired from that same club he has shown loyalty to (somethign that doesn't exist very often in football). And I doubt he will get another job in football - at least at the same level - again.
Now I accept he could have said no - but then again where would that leave Wolves? |
would imagine Connor will be eased back into a coaching role at the club over the summer. No reason why he cant retain a coaching role and really no reason why he wouldnt want one. | | | |
| Terry Connor - Wolves on 10:23 - Apr 11 with 3994 views | HollowayRanger |
back room nice guy thrown in the deep end to the lions ,doesnt stand a prayer! |  |
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| Terry Connor - Wolves on 12:36 - Apr 11 with 3889 views | themodfather |
he looks ill...always seems near to tears, maybe just the media thing was not expected nor the managers job.....he's the fall guy for a relegation. | | | |
| Terry Connor - Wolves on 12:55 - Apr 11 with 3854 views | Northernr |
On Johnson - being disliked might have something to do with the enormous amount of money paid for him relative to his performances, him coming straight in and taking the captaincy from Karl Henry, and his penchant to turn up to training pissd up.
On Connor, I think it's important to look at the performance and ethos of the chairman Steve Morgan here. This is a man who is actually running a Premiership club at a profit, securing its future for years to come and investing in long term things like ground improvements and youth set up rather than short term fixes like big money footballers.
He'll have noticed, no doubt, that near neighbours West Brom have steadily built a midtable Premiership club from an almost relegated First Division one through years and years of careful financial planning and management. Sometimes West Brom have lashed out a big fee, but they've never left themselves with a bloated squad of 50 players on ridiculous money as we have done. They've learnt the lessons of clubs like Leeds, Forest and Southampton and they've avoided making the same mistakes. They've suffered three relegations along the way, but they've always been in a position to bounce back immediately and they're much better off for it. Wolves are going for something similar I think.
Morgan could have done what we did, and throw a load of money at it in January to try and buy survival. It hasn't worked well for us, and it's bankrupted clubs previously. If we do go down we'll be lumbered with a load of players on massive wages becase, quote, "they wouldn't have signed contracts with those clauses in." At QPR if a player refuses a relegation reduction clause you take the clause out and sign the player anyway, at Wolves if he refuses you don't sign him.
They spoke to several managers when they got rid of McCarthy (and for those that say they wouldn't have done any worse had they kept him their performance in his last game against West Brom was flabbergasting) and all of them wanted assurances that they'd have buckets of money to spend on players and their contract wouldn't be reduced on relegation. Morgan said no to both and went with a cheap option instead knowing that if they do go down the club will be in the financial position to bounce back.
They'll appoint a new manager in the summer, Connor will revert back to being a coach and they'll be the best positioned of the relegated sides to win the Championship next year at which point they'd return to the Premiership with a more settled set up and better bank balance than the other promoted teams.
So who's the idiot here exactly? Not Connor, not Morgan... |  | | |
| Terry Connor - Wolves on 13:08 - Apr 11 with 3816 views | mikeygunn |
what ever happened to Ricky Sbragia? Similer type of fella that did a sterling job at keeping Sunderland up a few years ago. |  | | |
| Terry Connor - Wolves on 13:11 - Apr 11 with 3810 views | Jamie |
| Terry Connor - Wolves on 13:08 - Apr 11 by mikeygunn |
what ever happened to Ricky Sbragia? Similer type of fella that did a sterling job at keeping Sunderland up a few years ago. |
Sbragia manages the Scotland U17s.
Steve Bruce accepted the job on the same terms as Connor is operating. The fans revolted though. | | | |
| Terry Connor - Wolves on 13:12 - Apr 11 with 3809 views | BrianMcCarthy |
Very good post, Clive.
Highlights the worries I have for Rangers, too. |  |
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| Terry Connor - Wolves on 13:23 - Apr 11 with 3787 views | Northernr |
| Terry Connor - Wolves on 13:11 - Apr 11 by Jamie |
Sbragia manages the Scotland U17s.
Steve Bruce accepted the job on the same terms as Connor is operating. The fans revolted though. |
Steve Bruce provisionally accepted the job, but not on the same terms and Wolves pulled out. | | | |
| Terry Connor - Wolves (n/t) on 13:31 - Apr 11 with 3765 views | Rangersw12 |
| Terry Connor - Wolves on 12:55 - Apr 11 by Northernr |
On Johnson - being disliked might have something to do with the enormous amount of money paid for him relative to his performances, him coming straight in and taking the captaincy from Karl Henry, and his penchant to turn up to training pissd up.
On Connor, I think it's important to look at the performance and ethos of the chairman Steve Morgan here. This is a man who is actually running a Premiership club at a profit, securing its future for years to come and investing in long term things like ground improvements and youth set up rather than short term fixes like big money footballers.
He'll have noticed, no doubt, that near neighbours West Brom have steadily built a midtable Premiership club from an almost relegated First Division one through years and years of careful financial planning and management. Sometimes West Brom have lashed out a big fee, but they've never left themselves with a bloated squad of 50 players on ridiculous money as we have done. They've learnt the lessons of clubs like Leeds, Forest and Southampton and they've avoided making the same mistakes. They've suffered three relegations along the way, but they've always been in a position to bounce back immediately and they're much better off for it. Wolves are going for something similar I think.
Morgan could have done what we did, and throw a load of money at it in January to try and buy survival. It hasn't worked well for us, and it's bankrupted clubs previously. If we do go down we'll be lumbered with a load of players on massive wages becase, quote, "they wouldn't have signed contracts with those clauses in." At QPR if a player refuses a relegation reduction clause you take the clause out and sign the player anyway, at Wolves if he refuses you don't sign him.
They spoke to several managers when they got rid of McCarthy (and for those that say they wouldn't have done any worse had they kept him their performance in his last game against West Brom was flabbergasting) and all of them wanted assurances that they'd have buckets of money to spend on players and their contract wouldn't be reduced on relegation. Morgan said no to both and went with a cheap option instead knowing that if they do go down the club will be in the financial position to bounce back.
They'll appoint a new manager in the summer, Connor will revert back to being a coach and they'll be the best positioned of the relegated sides to win the Championship next year at which point they'd return to the Premiership with a more settled set up and better bank balance than the other promoted teams.
So who's the idiot here exactly? Not Connor, not Morgan... |
Could you imagine the uproar if we had sacked Warnock and appointed Bircham as manager till the end of season !? Protests after every game etc
You seem to also forget that a lot of deadwood will be going at the end of season so we will have a relatiely small squad come start of the season whatever division we are in
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| Terry Connor - Wolves (n/t) on 13:41 - Apr 11 with 3740 views | Northernr |
| Terry Connor - Wolves (n/t) on 13:31 - Apr 11 by Rangersw12 |
Could you imagine the uproar if we had sacked Warnock and appointed Bircham as manager till the end of season !? Protests after every game etc
You seem to also forget that a lot of deadwood will be going at the end of season so we will have a relatiely small squad come start of the season whatever division we are in
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You seem to forget that the deadwood is only half the problem. Our club with its stadium and income cannot afford the squad it currently has now in the Premiership, the losses next season if we end up a division lower with Cisse, Barton, SWP, Ferdinand, Onuoha, Zamora etc etc on the pay roll will be astronomical.
And the circumstances between Warnock's sacking and McCarthy's are totally different. Ours was a gamble, their's was inevitable. They were getting thrashed on a weekly basis. | | | |
| Terry Connor - Wolves (n/t) on 13:49 - Apr 11 with 1859 views | robith |
| Terry Connor - Wolves (n/t) on 13:31 - Apr 11 by Rangersw12 |
Could you imagine the uproar if we had sacked Warnock and appointed Bircham as manager till the end of season !? Protests after every game etc
You seem to also forget that a lot of deadwood will be going at the end of season so we will have a relatiely small squad come start of the season whatever division we are in
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That's not even taking account Wolves' fans' deep love for booing their own team |  | | |
| Terry Connor - Wolves on 13:52 - Apr 11 with 1852 views | slranger40 |
It's amazing how some threads turn out.
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