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Joe Allen: Player Manager 03:29 - Aug 17 with 3544 viewsAndyCole

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Get rid of Martin and his entire crew debacle. Apparently, by all accounts.

Let's get back to playing the way WE know best.

I know for a fact that Allen was brought back for that purpose - a proper meeting of minds with Allen and Jake.

There's no wonder martin is as agitated and nervous as he appears nowadays. Almost beyond inexplicably fraught, oftentimes.

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Joe Allen: Player Manager on 06:37 - Aug 17 with 2958 viewsSTID2017

Why say what you think in one post, when half a dozen or more will do ?
Blaming the manager for what happened in a mad last few minutes is pathetic.
Your diatribe against Martin is unjustified.
Much of that football we saw last night was of a standard last seen in the Man City FA Cup game under Potter.
Get a grip AC

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Joe Allen: Player Manager on 06:41 - Aug 17 with 2948 viewsangryjack

Joe Allen: Player Manager on 06:37 - Aug 17 by STID2017

Why say what you think in one post, when half a dozen or more will do ?
Blaming the manager for what happened in a mad last few minutes is pathetic.
Your diatribe against Martin is unjustified.
Much of that football we saw last night was of a standard last seen in the Man City FA Cup game under Potter.
Get a grip AC


It's not just last night few minutes though,we can't hold on to leads,as his hame management to change things get more compact ,instead he still plays open and is still going for more goals wgen we are 2.0 up with minutes to go..so yes it is Martins fault, as it just wasn't last night
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Joe Allen: Player Manager on 07:00 - Aug 17 with 2928 viewsSTID2017

Joe Allen: Player Manager on 06:41 - Aug 17 by angryjack

It's not just last night few minutes though,we can't hold on to leads,as his hame management to change things get more compact ,instead he still plays open and is still going for more goals wgen we are 2.0 up with minutes to go..so yes it is Martins fault, as it just wasn't last night


In fairness though Millwall rarely threatened and were reduced for the most part to taking pot shots from distance.
I feel the players must take full responsibility for their failure to not only see this game out, but to have taken the opportunities they had to increase their lead.

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Joe Allen: Player Manager on 07:06 - Aug 17 with 2918 viewsDr_Parnassus

Joe Allen: Player Manager on 06:41 - Aug 17 by angryjack

It's not just last night few minutes though,we can't hold on to leads,as his hame management to change things get more compact ,instead he still plays open and is still going for more goals wgen we are 2.0 up with minutes to go..so yes it is Martins fault, as it just wasn't last night


Not even the first time this season and we are only 5 games in. 3 goals conceded in injury time.

Game management is non existent.




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Joe Allen: Player Manager on 07:18 - Aug 17 with 2893 viewsangryjack

Joe Allen: Player Manager on 07:00 - Aug 17 by STID2017

In fairness though Millwall rarely threatened and were reduced for the most part to taking pot shots from distance.
I feel the players must take full responsibility for their failure to not only see this game out, but to have taken the opportunities they had to increase their lead.


Your totally wrong,of course players are on the pitch but are guided by the management,why are we still pushing in 90 minutes with players bombing on..Martin should be instructing get tighter keep the ball take it into corners ,kill time,look for little free kicks throw ins,not carry on being expansive,he's the one who instructs and like I said it's no cos coincidence it keeps happening,whoever on the pitch,it's the managers fault ,game management to dee out games..if player don't listen get them off or fine them simple
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Joe Allen: Player Manager on 07:23 - Aug 17 with 2886 viewsItchySphincter

Joe Allen: Player Manager on 06:37 - Aug 17 by STID2017

Why say what you think in one post, when half a dozen or more will do ?
Blaming the manager for what happened in a mad last few minutes is pathetic.
Your diatribe against Martin is unjustified.
Much of that football we saw last night was of a standard last seen in the Man City FA Cup game under Potter.
Get a grip AC


The manager has to be held responsible for the weekly collapse.

As for Allen as player manager, the thought had crossed my mind too. No info, just a thought.

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Joe Allen: Player Manager on 07:43 - Aug 17 with 2852 viewsPawelAbbott

Around 4 minutes in to injury time. Millwall have just pulled one back. Congreve releases Obafemi in his own half and he sprints to bare down on goal but is tackled. The ball breaks to Piroe but he can't control it and the ball is lost.
If he heads for the corner and shields it, waits for some support or wins a free kick / throw in then we run down another minute or so on the clock.
Is Martin apoplectic that this doesn't happen? No, he is disappointed we didn't score. Many managers would have gone berserk.
Recently we have gone from 4-1, 3-0, 2-0 and 2-0 to end up with a draw. It happens far too often for it not to be the manager taking responsibility.
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Joe Allen: Player Manager on 07:45 - Aug 17 with 2849 viewsDr_Parnassus

Joe Allen: Player Manager on 07:23 - Aug 17 by ItchySphincter

The manager has to be held responsible for the weekly collapse.

As for Allen as player manager, the thought had crossed my mind too. No info, just a thought.


I’ve had info, I believe I reported it at the time that he is being brought in with a view to become part of a succession plan with management. Similar to Monk.

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Joe Allen: Player Manager on 08:36 - Aug 17 with 2755 viewsonehunglow

Get a grip.#Absolutely he should and walk out the door and leave our club alone.

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Joe Allen: Player Manager on 09:12 - Aug 17 with 2697 viewsBadlands

What makes anyone think Allen could manage a Championship club?

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Joe Allen: Player Manager on 09:23 - Aug 17 with 2673 viewsonehunglow

Joe Allen: Player Manager on 07:00 - Aug 17 by STID2017

In fairness though Millwall rarely threatened and were reduced for the most part to taking pot shots from distance.
I feel the players must take full responsibility for their failure to not only see this game out, but to have taken the opportunities they had to increase their lead.


Lifey thought them a good side
Personally ,they turned my stomach as much as their fanbase

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Joe Allen: Player Manager on 09:26 - Aug 17 with 2676 viewsBadlands

Joe Allen: Player Manager on 09:23 - Aug 17 by onehunglow

Lifey thought them a good side
Personally ,they turned my stomach as much as their fanbase


Indeed, could have had a few more yellows for their clogging.
But they did close close to scoring during the game.
Not a good team but not bad. We should have closed out the game.

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Joe Allen: Player Manager on 09:35 - Aug 17 with 2661 viewsjojaca

Joe Allen: Player Manager on 08:36 - Aug 17 by onehunglow

Get a grip.#Absolutely he should and walk out the door and leave our club alone.


Still too early, we were only a few minutes away from being decent position in the league table.

Even when you know, you never know?

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Joe Allen: Player Manager on 09:41 - Aug 17 with 2643 viewsonehunglow

Joe Allen: Player Manager on 09:35 - Aug 17 by jojaca

Still too early, we were only a few minutes away from being decent position in the league table.


We were minutes away from at least 4 games last season .

It shows he learns little

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Joe Allen: Player Manager on 09:46 - Aug 17 with 2639 viewsjojaca

Joe Allen: Player Manager on 09:41 - Aug 17 by onehunglow

We were minutes away from at least 4 games last season .

It shows he learns little


I agree, but this is football sometimes. We scored late on the weekend against Blackpool. I just think two own goals in injury time is a freak occurrence.

Even when you know, you never know?

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Joe Allen: Player Manager on 12:02 - Aug 17 with 2531 viewsSTID2017

Joe Allen: Player Manager on 09:23 - Aug 17 by onehunglow

Lifey thought them a good side
Personally ,they turned my stomach as much as their fanbase


They weren't a bad side but they offered no great threat until we allowed them back in.
Yes not a club that fills the heart with joy

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Joe Allen: Player Manager on 21:36 - Aug 17 with 2384 viewsBoundy

Joe Allen: Player Manager on 09:12 - Aug 17 by Badlands

What makes anyone think Allen could manage a Championship club?


No idea . some seem to think a decent player will always make a decent manager.

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Joe Allen: Player Manager on 21:38 - Aug 17 with 2382 viewsKeithHaynes

Joe Allen: Player Manager on 07:23 - Aug 17 by ItchySphincter

The manager has to be held responsible for the weekly collapse.

As for Allen as player manager, the thought had crossed my mind too. No info, just a thought.


It would ruin him.
Far too early.

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Joe Allen: Player Manager on 21:41 - Aug 17 with 2370 viewsItchySphincter

Joe Allen: Player Manager on 21:38 - Aug 17 by KeithHaynes

It would ruin him.
Far too early.


I wasn’t suggesting it, just thought it might be in the planning.

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Joe Allen: Player Manager on 22:39 - Aug 17 with 2324 viewsvetchonian

Joe Allen: Player Manager on 09:12 - Aug 17 by Badlands

What makes anyone think Allen could manage a Championship club?


What makes anyone think Martin could manage a Champioship club?

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Joe Allen: Player Manager on 23:39 - Aug 17 with 2280 viewsDr_Parnassus

Joe Allen: Player Manager on 21:41 - Aug 17 by ItchySphincter

I wasn’t suggesting it, just thought it might be in the planning.


It is.

Was one of the main reasons he was brought back.

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Joe Allen: Player Manager on 15:34 - Aug 18 with 2150 viewsjackrmee

Joe Allen: Player Manager on 07:45 - Aug 17 by Dr_Parnassus

I’ve had info, I believe I reported it at the time that he is being brought in with a view to become part of a succession plan with management. Similar to Monk.


Once Martin gets poached.

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Joe Allen: Player Manager on 16:02 - Aug 18 with 2120 viewsJohnw102

Joe Allen: Player Manager on 15:34 - Aug 18 by jackrmee

Once Martin gets poached.


More likely to be coddled!!
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Never knew getting old would happen so quick!

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Joe Allen: Player Manager on 16:04 - Aug 18 with 2107 viewsBadlands

Joe Allen: Player Manager on 21:36 - Aug 17 by Boundy

No idea . some seem to think a decent player will always make a decent manager.


How often has that been disproven!

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Joe Allen: Player Manager on 16:23 - Aug 18 with 2083 viewsjasper_T

Has he started his badges yet?
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