| Ecclestone 09:01 - Jun 30 with 8676 views | QPRSteve |
What a man! On TV this morning defending Putin. Says he would take a bullet for him. Yes please!
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| Ecclestone on 08:17 - Jul 1 with 2486 views | numptydumpty |
He's 91 years of age.
My first thought was perhaps the potential effects of age beginning to have an effect.
Ie potentially he not really in control of his thinking and speech.
Saw interview with Piers Morgan and to me it was evident, age was having a detrimental effect on his mental capacity.
Obviously very normal for that to potentially happen at 91 years old.
Can't see even if he had those thoughts, a totally compos mentos Ecclestone would be uttering such controversial and ridiculous statements. Ie he did not get to where he did without being media savvy
I was convinced that the case here otherwise interviews be the height of stupidity and offensive to the highest degree !!! [Post edited 1 Jul 2022 8:20]
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| Ecclestone on 08:46 - Jul 1 with 2430 views | DWQPR |
| Ecclestone on 07:56 - Jul 1 by jc_hoops |
well, dont like Ecclestone, that said, cant stand that little prat Volodymyr Zelenskyy . Personally, I blame Nato and the West, Russia wanted to join NATO in the 90s after the USSR collapsed, but the Yanks just knocked it back, and have continually pushed buttons since, do I blame Russia for finally saying enough is enough, no! NATO says its a defence pack, tell that to former Yugoslavia, Afghanistan and Libya. The West is a failing empire, leaking money hand over fist, and one of the best ways out of this situation is war!!! Dont see many Russian and Chinese military bases around the world, I think last count the States had military based in around 180 countries, of course they are all there for humanitarian reasons lol Anyway, just my opinion !
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Welcome to LFW Bernie. What’s your favourite cheese by the way? | |
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| Ecclestone on 09:29 - Jul 1 with 2369 views | Rs_Holy |
| Ecclestone on 07:56 - Jul 1 by jc_hoops |
well, dont like Ecclestone, that said, cant stand that little prat Volodymyr Zelenskyy . Personally, I blame Nato and the West, Russia wanted to join NATO in the 90s after the USSR collapsed, but the Yanks just knocked it back, and have continually pushed buttons since, do I blame Russia for finally saying enough is enough, no! NATO says its a defence pack, tell that to former Yugoslavia, Afghanistan and Libya. The West is a failing empire, leaking money hand over fist, and one of the best ways out of this situation is war!!! Dont see many Russian and Chinese military bases around the world, I think last count the States had military based in around 180 countries, of course they are all there for humanitarian reasons lol Anyway, just my opinion !
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All fair points... The west is being hypocritical because of previous conflicts (as you mention although Russia did have a go in Afghanistan before the US). To me the ‘Special Operation' also has many parallels with the Vietnam war. History has not done the US any favours on that one.
As with all war it is complicated (the Donbas is more pro-Russian than Ukrainian), there was a small but significant neo-Nazi element in Ukraine (although that has been shrinking over time and not as much as a problem as portrayed by Putin), Ukraine has been building up its defenses massively since Crimea was annexed.
Obviously, we don't get a totally subjective view of things in our media. That said I can’t believe that everyone reporting is not giving an pretty accurate view of events that are happening ie the bombing of the shopping centre, the carpet bombing of big cities, the poor tactics employed by the Russian army at the start of the war etc.
NATO has not been perfect but the bottom line for me is that surely you cannot just invade a neighbouring sovereign country because 2 regions within that country consider themselves more Russian than Ukrainian???The Neo-Nazi argument has no grounds (statistics prove that). Zelensky for all his faults was voted in democratically by the majority of the country. If the Donbas felt that strongly about it surely democracy and a vote for some sort of devolution would have been better? It would take time but surely it is better than all the death, refugees, food shortages, uncertainty, misery??? Or is that being too simplistic? [Post edited 1 Jul 2022 9:33]
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| Ecclestone on 10:03 - Jul 1 with 2317 views | DannyPaddox |
| Ecclestone on 00:43 - Jul 1 by distortR |
So, let's get this right, essentially you want Barbet to take what, in assassin's terms, would be a set piece?
'cos that would go well.......................one dead linesman later |
Yoann’s magic bullet aka the Barbet diag would ping off three of the floodlights and one of the dugouts before entering Eccleswine’s dome just below the wig-line. [Post edited 1 Jul 2022 10:10]
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| Ecclestone on 10:16 - Jul 1 with 2285 views | daveB |
It won't take long before you find people on here agreeing with Bernie, I know a few people who believe the bullshit Putin has come out with and are backing him [Post edited 1 Jul 2022 10:17]
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| Ecclestone on 10:50 - Jul 1 with 2243 views | Orthodox_Hoop |
| Ecclestone on 07:56 - Jul 1 by jc_hoops |
well, dont like Ecclestone, that said, cant stand that little prat Volodymyr Zelenskyy . Personally, I blame Nato and the West, Russia wanted to join NATO in the 90s after the USSR collapsed, but the Yanks just knocked it back, and have continually pushed buttons since, do I blame Russia for finally saying enough is enough, no! NATO says its a defence pack, tell that to former Yugoslavia, Afghanistan and Libya. The West is a failing empire, leaking money hand over fist, and one of the best ways out of this situation is war!!! Dont see many Russian and Chinese military bases around the world, I think last count the States had military based in around 180 countries, of course they are all there for humanitarian reasons lol Anyway, just my opinion !
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Absolutely nothing justifies the invasion of a neighbouring sovereign country under the pretences Putin has used - despite the fact I agree with some of your points. Hitler used the same arguments to march into the Sudetenland. We can talk about why it has come to this forever, and I have done previously and don't want to repeat myself, that thread went on for ages and I'm not sure if it even exists anymore. Yes, the West does bear a lot of the the blame for the situation, but ultimately the blame lies with Putin.
Anyway, back to Ecclestone - he's a k u n t. |  | | |
| Ecclestone on 11:12 - Jul 1 with 2214 views | daveB |
On Piers Morgan last night he compared Lewis Hamilton being called the N word to him being called short. | | | |
| Ecclestone on 11:56 - Jul 1 with 2174 views | Rs_Holy |
| Ecclestone on 11:12 - Jul 1 by daveB |
On Piers Morgan last night he compared Lewis Hamilton being called the N word to him being called short. |
Well I'm all for free speech but it is totally devoid of any credibility when the person speaking has obviously lost their marbles. | | | |
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| Ecclestone on 12:59 - Jul 1 with 2134 views | kensalriser |
| Ecclestone on 07:56 - Jul 1 by jc_hoops |
well, dont like Ecclestone, that said, cant stand that little prat Volodymyr Zelenskyy . Personally, I blame Nato and the West, Russia wanted to join NATO in the 90s after the USSR collapsed, but the Yanks just knocked it back, and have continually pushed buttons since, do I blame Russia for finally saying enough is enough, no! NATO says its a defence pack, tell that to former Yugoslavia, Afghanistan and Libya. The West is a failing empire, leaking money hand over fist, and one of the best ways out of this situation is war!!! Dont see many Russian and Chinese military bases around the world, I think last count the States had military based in around 180 countries, of course they are all there for humanitarian reasons lol Anyway, just my opinion !
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So now you've admitted that you support razing, rape, looting, murder, war crimes and genocide, is there anything else you'd like taken into consideration. |  |
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| Ecclestone on 13:31 - Jul 1 with 2055 views | Northernr |
It's lost on me a bit why he was on GMB in the first place. If he was still in charge of F1 and was speaking on its behalf then ok, but why do we care or need to hear what some stupid old irrelevant cnt thinks about any of this?
Does my nut all of this. Here's the news story... now here's what loads of people's opinions are on it. I don't care. Every news report now seems to come with 30 seconds of people being stopped on the high street and vox popped for what they think about it - adds nothing, zero expertise, just people not in possession of the full facts rambling on about something they often don't understand.
If I want to know what people's opinions are I'll look in the comment section or social media or listen to a phone in. So much 'news' now seems to be generated by 'somebody said something...' It's fcking lowest common denominator drek. |  | | |
| Ecclestone on 13:51 - Jul 1 with 2001 views | joe90 |
| Ecclestone on 13:31 - Jul 1 by Northernr |
It's lost on me a bit why he was on GMB in the first place. If he was still in charge of F1 and was speaking on its behalf then ok, but why do we care or need to hear what some stupid old irrelevant cnt thinks about any of this?
Does my nut all of this. Here's the news story... now here's what loads of people's opinions are on it. I don't care. Every news report now seems to come with 30 seconds of people being stopped on the high street and vox popped for what they think about it - adds nothing, zero expertise, just people not in possession of the full facts rambling on about something they often don't understand.
If I want to know what people's opinions are I'll look in the comment section or social media or listen to a phone in. So much 'news' now seems to be generated by 'somebody said something...' It's fcking lowest common denominator drek. |
It's deeply cynical news. It's all about 'engagement', not meaningful content designed to drive forward debate or hold those in power to account.
You see it in all forms of commentary across different communities. Outrage sells and s**t-stirrers (or 'polemics') get to pass off their 'news'/'opinion' as either exercising their 'free speech', having a 'debate' or it being in the 'public interest' when it's rarely any of those three things. As you say, lowest common denominator. |  | | |
| Ecclestone on 14:15 - Jul 1 with 1971 views | Myke |
| Ecclestone on 13:31 - Jul 1 by Northernr |
It's lost on me a bit why he was on GMB in the first place. If he was still in charge of F1 and was speaking on its behalf then ok, but why do we care or need to hear what some stupid old irrelevant cnt thinks about any of this?
Does my nut all of this. Here's the news story... now here's what loads of people's opinions are on it. I don't care. Every news report now seems to come with 30 seconds of people being stopped on the high street and vox popped for what they think about it - adds nothing, zero expertise, just people not in possession of the full facts rambling on about something they often don't understand.
If I want to know what people's opinions are I'll look in the comment section or social media or listen to a phone in. So much 'news' now seems to be generated by 'somebody said something...' It's fcking lowest common denominator drek. |
This is true when you get to 90+ and are either just sprouting to remain stereotyped as 'controversial' or 'outspoken', or because you no longer have the mental capacity to filter your opinions. However, I found Hamilton's comments on Piquet more concerning. Notwithstanding Piquet's use of the 'n' word', which is of course totally unacceptable, the wish expressed by Hamilton to silence older people and only listen to the young people is not a road I would like to travel. Piquet is only 69, which is a world away from 91 in terms of mental capacity. He is also a two -times world champion and therefore understands the sport. Will Hamilton have the same view in 30 years time? Frankly, I would consider a world left solely to the opinions and viewpoint of the 'yoof' a very scary prospect indeed. As with everything, a balance needs to be sought. | | | |
| Ecclestone on 14:20 - Jul 1 with 1964 views | ted_hendrix |
A 91 year old skinny little piglet talking to a lifelong and permantly dreadful ignorant Piers Morgan???
Jesus bloody Christ.
Pick one, just one respectable news outlet (and they do exist) and like I did watch some of the videos of what Is happening in those villages and it'll break your bloody heart.
Give me bloody strength. |  |
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| Ecclestone on 14:29 - Jul 1 with 1953 views | ngbqpr |
| Ecclestone on 13:31 - Jul 1 by Northernr |
It's lost on me a bit why he was on GMB in the first place. If he was still in charge of F1 and was speaking on its behalf then ok, but why do we care or need to hear what some stupid old irrelevant cnt thinks about any of this?
Does my nut all of this. Here's the news story... now here's what loads of people's opinions are on it. I don't care. Every news report now seems to come with 30 seconds of people being stopped on the high street and vox popped for what they think about it - adds nothing, zero expertise, just people not in possession of the full facts rambling on about something they often don't understand.
If I want to know what people's opinions are I'll look in the comment section or social media or listen to a phone in. So much 'news' now seems to be generated by 'somebody said something...' It's fcking lowest common denominator drek. |
Indeed.
"Let's see what Twitter is saying about this..." - no, please let's fking not.
And don't get me started on the 24 hour news channels and their non-stop press previews, "let's see what tomorrow's front pages are saying" - then we get half an hour of two dismal wannabe journos (one vaguely left, one vaguely right) dribbling on for half an hour. |  |
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| Ecclestone on 14:40 - Jul 1 with 1932 views | MrSheen |
| Ecclestone on 14:29 - Jul 1 by ngbqpr |
Indeed.
"Let's see what Twitter is saying about this..." - no, please let's fking not.
And don't get me started on the 24 hour news channels and their non-stop press previews, "let's see what tomorrow's front pages are saying" - then we get half an hour of two dismal wannabe journos (one vaguely left, one vaguely right) dribbling on for half an hour. |
24 hours news is expanding foam. Fills an empty space with a bright colourful lump of nothing. |  | | |
| Ecclestone on 15:07 - Jul 1 with 1889 views | HantsR |
In 2005, Flavio said that BE (aka the Poison Dwarf) wanted to buy Chelscum rather than our boutique club. Abramovich and BE were big mates than. |  | | |
| Ecclestone on 16:01 - Jul 1 with 1821 views | kensalriser |
| Ecclestone on 14:15 - Jul 1 by Myke |
This is true when you get to 90+ and are either just sprouting to remain stereotyped as 'controversial' or 'outspoken', or because you no longer have the mental capacity to filter your opinions. However, I found Hamilton's comments on Piquet more concerning. Notwithstanding Piquet's use of the 'n' word', which is of course totally unacceptable, the wish expressed by Hamilton to silence older people and only listen to the young people is not a road I would like to travel. Piquet is only 69, which is a world away from 91 in terms of mental capacity. He is also a two -times world champion and therefore understands the sport. Will Hamilton have the same view in 30 years time? Frankly, I would consider a world left solely to the opinions and viewpoint of the 'yoof' a very scary prospect indeed. As with everything, a balance needs to be sought. |
Hamilton gets racially abused and you think Hamilton's the problem? Piquet's a bigot with previous form and he's also a mate of Bolsonaro which should tell you all you need to know about his character. | |
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| Ecclestone on 17:49 - Jul 1 with 1741 views | Myke |
| Ecclestone on 16:01 - Jul 1 by kensalriser |
Hamilton gets racially abused and you think Hamilton's the problem? Piquet's a bigot with previous form and he's also a mate of Bolsonaro which should tell you all you need to know about his character. |
Did you actually read my post or are you just mouthing off for the sake of it and my post was as good as any to attach your comments to? If the former, then please read CAREFULLY before commenting, if it's the latter I would prefer if you piggy backed on someone who may share your views | | | |
| Ecclestone on 18:20 - Jul 1 with 1719 views | distortR |
| Ecclestone on 17:49 - Jul 1 by Myke |
Did you actually read my post or are you just mouthing off for the sake of it and my post was as good as any to attach your comments to? If the former, then please read CAREFULLY before commenting, if it's the latter I would prefer if you piggy backed on someone who may share your views |
agree with your points, who decides who has the right to 'a platform', or not? I hope Hamilton's words were spoken more in anger and frustration then after careful consideration, the current will to silence voices you don't like is very dangerous, albeit that piquet has, hopefully, deplatformed himself. | | | |
| Ecclestone on 19:35 - Jul 1 with 1636 views | BrianMcCarthy |
On the age thing, I don't think Ecclestone's comments can be solely attributable to age.
Most likely, there's something in this for him, he's deligted to be "invited" on to the show and will be rewarded in soime underhanded way for his support of Putin.
Also possible, is that - like many uber-wealthy people - he is so divorced from reality and its consequences that he believes his procolmations to be worthy of mass broadcast, and, naturally, worthy of mass appreciation.
Hasn't he always behaved like this? |  |
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| Ecclestone on 21:10 - Jul 1 with 1562 views | distortR |
| Ecclestone on 19:35 - Jul 1 by BrianMcCarthy |
On the age thing, I don't think Ecclestone's comments can be solely attributable to age.
Most likely, there's something in this for him, he's deligted to be "invited" on to the show and will be rewarded in soime underhanded way for his support of Putin.
Also possible, is that - like many uber-wealthy people - he is so divorced from reality and its consequences that he believes his procolmations to be worthy of mass broadcast, and, naturally, worthy of mass appreciation.
Hasn't he always behaved like this? |
He's loathsome, totally get Northern's point about why was he asked anyway (We've seen exactly why), and I like that people like this have a platform so that they can be seen for exactly what they are. | | | |
| Ecclestone on 00:10 - Jul 2 with 1474 views | kensalriser |
| Ecclestone on 17:49 - Jul 1 by Myke |
Did you actually read my post or are you just mouthing off for the sake of it and my post was as good as any to attach your comments to? If the former, then please read CAREFULLY before commenting, if it's the latter I would prefer if you piggy backed on someone who may share your views |
Yeah I did. You made the guy who got abused the problem. I didn't see that Hamilton expressed a wish to silence older people. Did he say that? | |
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| Ecclestone on 03:57 - Jul 2 with 1421 views | BrianMcCarthy |
| Ecclestone on 21:10 - Jul 1 by distortR |
He's loathsome, totally get Northern's point about why was he asked anyway (We've seen exactly why), and I like that people like this have a platform so that they can be seen for exactly what they are. |
I agree 100%,
Starving people of a voice makes them martyrs. | |
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| Ecclestone on 07:32 - Jul 2 with 1366 views | distortR |
| Ecclestone on 00:10 - Jul 2 by kensalriser |
Yeah I did. You made the guy who got abused the problem. I didn't see that Hamilton expressed a wish to silence older people. Did he say that? |
to be fair to Myke, I read a BBC piece on this, and didn't really like what Hamilton said. later I read an article which had his comments in full, and it was much more reasoned. So the press, once again, could be accused of wearing two hats, seemingly supporting Hamilton while also stirring shit. I know I shouldn't be surprised. The initial BBC bit I read probably was the writer, to use Myke's phrase, piggybacking on Hamilton.
I'm not keen on Hamilton's turn of phrase, the word 'platform' in this sense is very contentious right now, but his choice of language was a hell of a lot better then piquet's.
As I said earlier, give 'em enough rope, and all that, and smacked hand for me for not finding the story at source. | | | |
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