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EU countries begging the vaccine off the UK on 17:41 - Mar 29 by controversial_jack
We are not giving half doses and then a full doses, we are making it up as we go along and not following scientific advice as has been the case for most of this pandemic
There is lot's of data coming out about Pfijer and Moderna in the real world, but very little about AZ.
Full immunity is reached after about 3 weeks, it doesn't increase after that, it's why the next shot is so important. The UK is the only country that has extended the second dose to 12 weeks, let's hope we know better than the manufacturers
The UK is not the only Country.
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In Canada the wait is 4 months (4*4 = 16 Weeks).
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EU countries begging the vaccine off the UK on 18:51 - Mar 29 with 1354 views
EU countries begging the vaccine off the UK on 17:41 - Mar 29 by controversial_jack
We are not giving half doses and then a full doses, we are making it up as we go along and not following scientific advice as has been the case for most of this pandemic
There is lot's of data coming out about Pfijer and Moderna in the real world, but very little about AZ.
Full immunity is reached after about 3 weeks, it doesn't increase after that, it's why the next shot is so important. The UK is the only country that has extended the second dose to 12 weeks, let's hope we know better than the manufacturers
In amongst that report is this, -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- How efficacious is the vaccine? The AZD1222 vaccine against COVID-19 has an efficacy of 63.09% against symptomatic SARS-CoV-2 infection.
Longer dose intervals within the 8 to 12 weeks range are associated with greater vaccine efficacy. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
For most of our lives we make it up as we go along, scientific data changes as new evidence is found. However, the current scientific and medical advice is for the doses as administered, two 0.5ml doses 8-12 weeks apart.
EU countries begging the vaccine off the UK on 17:09 - Mar 29 by controversial_jack
The EU have said differently. The Uk has not fulfilled it's contract to supply EU countries , and that the Uk already has enough vaccines for it's own population. It already has a surplus ordered. There is also no such contractual obligation to supply first come first served either - best endeavour is meaningless in terms of contracts.
The EU has given AZ monetary grants to raise it's production so it could produce enough for the EU as well as the UK, but has failed to do so
The Uk has surged ahead with it's first dose regime using up lots of the vaccines and delaying the second dose as it hasn't followed the manufacturers recommendations that the EU countries have
The British govt is playing a nationalistic political game with the vaccines, as if trying to justify it's doing better because of Brexit, when it should be cooperating to fight the disease rather than the EU
I'm afraid the UK is being very arrogant and is clearly in the wrong here.
EU countries begging the vaccine off the UK on 17:41 - Mar 29 by controversial_jack
We are not giving half doses and then a full doses, we are making it up as we go along and not following scientific advice as has been the case for most of this pandemic
There is lot's of data coming out about Pfijer and Moderna in the real world, but very little about AZ.
Full immunity is reached after about 3 weeks, it doesn't increase after that, it's why the next shot is so important. The UK is the only country that has extended the second dose to 12 weeks, let's hope we know better than the manufacturers
Wrong wrong wrong and wrong again. I would much prefer to believe the scientific evidence and scientists and not the mule headed rants of an antivaxer.
In amongst that report is this, -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- How efficacious is the vaccine? The AZD1222 vaccine against COVID-19 has an efficacy of 63.09% against symptomatic SARS-CoV-2 infection.
Longer dose intervals within the 8 to 12 weeks range are associated with greater vaccine efficacy. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
For most of our lives we make it up as we go along, scientific data changes as new evidence is found. However, the current scientific and medical advice is for the doses as administered, two 0.5ml doses 8-12 weeks apart.
That's not what they are finding in the US with pfizer or Moderna. They recommend following the manufacturers advice. Every medication we get says to follow the manufacturers advice on the or inside the packet
EU countries begging the vaccine off the UK on 22:38 - Mar 29 by controversial_jack
That's not what they are finding in the US with pfizer or Moderna. They recommend following the manufacturers advice. Every medication we get says to follow the manufacturers advice on the or inside the packet
8 different locations in the USA, first dose giving 80% and the second dose increasing it to 90% effectiveness.
When you say you're hearing stuff I'm starting to think it's voices in your head because you often don't post any links or evidence. It's controversial to be sure.
8 different locations in the USA, first dose giving 80% and the second dose increasing it to 90% effectiveness.
When you say you're hearing stuff I'm starting to think it's voices in your head because you often don't post any links or evidence. It's controversial to be sure.
Correct just because someone says something does not mean it is true. The antivaxers have been promoting so many lies. Unfortunately too many in this country believe them. This has led to a high degree of vaccine scepticism among certain groups in this country putting the lives of the vulnerable at risk.
Science and facts will hopefully win out over misinformation.
8 different locations in the USA, first dose giving 80% and the second dose increasing it to 90% effectiveness.
When you say you're hearing stuff I'm starting to think it's voices in your head because you often don't post any links or evidence. It's controversial to be sure.
There's nothing in that study about AZ, and nothing that says ignoring the manufacturers guidance is a good idea
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EU countries begging the vaccine off the UK on 13:03 - Mar 30 with 1158 views
Germany's reaction has been political in the past and may be so againg,the concrns about clotting are wrong, in fact there may more of a problem with bleeding. Here's the evidence,
That's not what AZ said, it depends on who you want to believe. Untila court decides we'll have to wait and see. The EU have already been in the wrong on this subject a few times.
Matt Hancock says different but to be honest, if he told me it was dry out I'd take an umbrella.
There's lots of "they said, we said, I said" type of stuff and none of it is proof until it is settled. The EU could be right or they could be wrong.
EU countries begging the vaccine off the UK on 18:54 - Mar 30 by Catullus
That's not what AZ said, it depends on who you want to believe. Untila court decides we'll have to wait and see. The EU have already been in the wrong on this subject a few times.
Matt Hancock says different but to be honest, if he told me it was dry out I'd take an umbrella.
There's lots of "they said, we said, I said" type of stuff and none of it is proof until it is settled. The EU could be right or they could be wrong.
I got my second jab this Thursday. Pray for my soul.
It's not particularly surprising that there are people who believe that the EU reaction is one based in legal merit rather than embarassment and blustering after f*cking up on a Global scale.
The Westminster Govt botched basically every aspect of this pandemic, but they've Aced vaccine acquisition and rollout.
Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair, or f*cking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back.
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EU countries begging the vaccine off the UK on 22:19 - Mar 30 with 1012 views
Why are the EU countries bitching about how much AZ vaccine they’ve received in comparison to the UK when they seem determined to use as little of it as possible?
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EU countries begging the vaccine off the UK on 21:59 - Mar 30 by Dr_Winston
It's not particularly surprising that there are people who believe that the EU reaction is one based in legal merit rather than embarassment and blustering after f*cking up on a Global scale.
The Westminster Govt botched basically every aspect of this pandemic, but they've Aced vaccine acquisition and rollout.
In fairness,most countries have proven by this third wave. This has not happened in our life time before and we have not all accepted how deadly it is. The fact that some wont take a vaccine as they "think" it might contain pork shows where we are and how mankind hasn't progressed as much as we think.The same dumbasses seeing a face mask as a tool of torture .
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