Routledge and Dyer not producing - stats back it up too on 17:09 - Jan 16 with 4295 views | pencoedjack | Dyer is a championship player ... not good enough for PL anymore. | ![](/images/avatars/9450.gif) | | ![](/images/icons/ignore-user.png) |
Routledge and Dyer not producing - stats back it up too on 17:10 - Jan 16 with 4290 views | Tom1912 |
Routledge and Dyer not producing - stats back it up too on 17:09 - Jan 16 by pencoedjack | Dyer is a championship player ... not good enough for PL anymore. |
That's ridiculous given some of the performances he's put in at this level-including a fine run of form at the start of this season. But he's certainly below par at the moment-Routledge too. | ![](/images/avatars/0.gif) | | ![](/images/icons/ignore-user.png) |
Routledge and Dyer not producing - stats back it up too on 17:14 - Jan 16 with 4273 views | ajmcglashan |
Routledge and Dyer not producing - stats back it up too on 17:10 - Jan 16 by Tom1912 | That's ridiculous given some of the performances he's put in at this level-including a fine run of form at the start of this season. But he's certainly below par at the moment-Routledge too. |
I think both are suffering massively with a lack of confidence. They have shown they can cut it at this level. When Dyer wasn't able to continuously skin Clint Hill (a Championship player at best) I started to worry. Monk must be slightly concerned too. Wouldn't be surprised if it's Routledge and Barrow tomorrow. | ![](/images/avatars/0.gif) | | ![](/images/icons/ignore-user.png) |
Routledge and Dyer not producing - stats back it up too on 17:19 - Jan 16 with 4254 views | SkipTheJack | Right, let's bash two of our most important players! That's a good plan! Alternatively, we could get behind them tomorrow and give them some confidence and encouragement. Form is always temporary, but class is permanent. | ![](/images/avatars/8734.gif) | | ![](/images/icons/ignore-user.png) |
Routledge and Dyer not producing - stats back it up too on 17:20 - Jan 16 with 4254 views | pencoedjack |
Routledge and Dyer not producing - stats back it up too on 17:10 - Jan 16 by Tom1912 | That's ridiculous given some of the performances he's put in at this level-including a fine run of form at the start of this season. But he's certainly below par at the moment-Routledge too. |
Football is all about opinions .... Dyer and is constant turning back holds our play up, admittedly he had a good start to the season (although I think at least 1 of his goals was a mis hit) & 1 decent pass last week to set up Siggy besides that he has been awful. I believe with Gomis up top who will want the ball played in front of him, Dyer will become even more of a liability. Maybe OK to come off the bench but that's about it .... Cant wait for Monty to be back fit in the meantime I would play Barrow. No room for sentiment | ![](/images/avatars/9450.gif) | | ![](/images/icons/ignore-user.png) |
Routledge and Dyer not producing - stats back it up too on 17:23 - Jan 16 with 4231 views | pencoedjack |
Routledge and Dyer not producing - stats back it up too on 17:19 - Jan 16 by SkipTheJack | Right, let's bash two of our most important players! That's a good plan! Alternatively, we could get behind them tomorrow and give them some confidence and encouragement. Form is always temporary, but class is permanent. |
I will be fully behind Dyer tomorrow but I still think he is not good enough for us anymore. One of our most important players ? | ![](/images/avatars/9450.gif) | | ![](/images/icons/ignore-user.png) |
Routledge and Dyer not producing - stats back it up too on 17:27 - Jan 16 with 4217 views | C_jack | I think Dyer has hit the ceiling, and we've got a much better option in regards to pace with Montero. | ![](/images/avatars/11469.gif) |
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Routledge and Dyer not producing - stats back it up too on 17:40 - Jan 16 with 4164 views | Oldjack | I'd use Emmnes and that whippet Barrow from the off ,they bring far more too the table | ![](/images/avatars/8650.gif) |
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Routledge and Dyer not producing - stats back it up too on 17:47 - Jan 16 with 4143 views | skippyjack | I can see Barrow and Montero as our starting wingers.. Dyer and Routledge can't pass anymore.. | ![](/images/avatars/8893.gif) |
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Routledge and Dyer not producing - stats back it up too on 18:08 - Jan 16 with 4068 views | Tom1912 | Barrow and Emnes both looked good when they came on against West Ham but they were up against tired full backs. Both gave good enough accounts of themselves to be considered tomorrow though. | ![](/images/avatars/0.gif) | | ![](/images/icons/ignore-user.png) |
Routledge and Dyer not producing - stats back it up too on 18:38 - Jan 16 with 3986 views | A_Fans_Dad |
Routledge and Dyer not producing - stats back it up too on 17:23 - Jan 16 by pencoedjack | I will be fully behind Dyer tomorrow but I still think he is not good enough for us anymore. One of our most important players ? |
Your continuous slating of Dyer is very disappointing. No mention of the fact that he was injured earlier in the season when he was flying, no mention of the fact that he still puts in a far better "shift" than Routledge or that he has scored 1 more goal than Routledge. Your bias is showing with comments like him only being a "Championship" player. | ![](/images/avatars/0.gif) | | ![](/images/icons/ignore-user.png) |
Routledge and Dyer not producing - stats back it up too on 18:40 - Jan 16 with 3975 views | Dr_Winston | Both Dyer and Routledge have been hugely valuable contributors during our time in the Premier League. Having a tough run of form does not in any way, shape or form make them Championship players. That's just silly. Montero and Barrow should be the players in possession though. Up to the others to fight their way back in. | ![](/images/avatars/8802.gif) |
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Routledge and Dyer not producing - stats back it up too on 18:43 - Jan 16 with 3966 views | Jackfath | Would Barrow cut the mustard from the beginning of a match? He seems great from the bench currently - however I have reservations about him frmo the off. | ![](/images/avatars/8659.gif) |
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Routledge and Dyer not producing - stats back it up too on 18:44 - Jan 16 with 3965 views | Dr_Winston |
Routledge and Dyer not producing - stats back it up too on 18:43 - Jan 16 by Jackfath | Would Barrow cut the mustard from the beginning of a match? He seems great from the bench currently - however I have reservations about him frmo the off. |
Only one way to find out Fathy. | ![](/images/avatars/8802.gif) |
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Routledge and Dyer not producing - stats back it up too on 18:47 - Jan 16 with 3951 views | Jackfath |
Routledge and Dyer not producing - stats back it up too on 18:44 - Jan 16 by Dr_Winston | Only one way to find out Fathy. |
Indeed. It'll be something I pay close attention to. I sincerely hope he can do the business. | ![](/images/avatars/8659.gif) |
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Routledge and Dyer not producing - stats back it up too on 18:51 - Jan 16 with 3930 views | ItchySphincter |
Routledge and Dyer not producing - stats back it up too on 18:38 - Jan 16 by A_Fans_Dad | Your continuous slating of Dyer is very disappointing. No mention of the fact that he was injured earlier in the season when he was flying, no mention of the fact that he still puts in a far better "shift" than Routledge or that he has scored 1 more goal than Routledge. Your bias is showing with comments like him only being a "Championship" player. |
He's been poor in recent times though Dad, no doubt about it. | ![](/images/avatars/9328.gif) |
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Routledge and Dyer not producing - stats back it up too on 18:57 - Jan 16 with 3909 views | pencoedjack |
Routledge and Dyer not producing - stats back it up too on 18:38 - Jan 16 by A_Fans_Dad | Your continuous slating of Dyer is very disappointing. No mention of the fact that he was injured earlier in the season when he was flying, no mention of the fact that he still puts in a far better "shift" than Routledge or that he has scored 1 more goal than Routledge. Your bias is showing with comments like him only being a "Championship" player. |
If I am honest I couldn't care less if I disappoint you . As I said in my first post football is about opinions mine differs from yours ...... get over it. 'Putting in a shift' if that is your expectations of a PL footballer? Mine are a little higher. Dyer with the exception of a couple of goals (he also missed a few) & IMO wasn't 'flying' is no longer a PL player (or at least to the standard I expect at Swansea). When Monty is back I am sure Garry will agree with me. | ![](/images/avatars/9450.gif) | | ![](/images/icons/ignore-user.png) |
Routledge and Dyer not producing - stats back it up too on 19:03 - Jan 16 with 3897 views | A_Fans_Dad |
Routledge and Dyer not producing - stats back it up too on 18:51 - Jan 16 by ItchySphincter | He's been poor in recent times though Dad, no doubt about it. |
I agree, but still better than Routledge in my opinion. As PencoedJack says, it is all a metter of opinion. | ![](/images/avatars/0.gif) | | ![](/images/icons/ignore-user.png) |
Routledge and Dyer not producing - stats back it up too on 19:09 - Jan 16 with 3878 views | pencoedjack |
Routledge and Dyer not producing - stats back it up too on 19:03 - Jan 16 by A_Fans_Dad | I agree, but still better than Routledge in my opinion. As PencoedJack says, it is all a metter of opinion. |
Glad you agree with me Do you think Dyer normally A) Beats a player turns and plays the ball backwards (to a player who can cross) B) After beating the player puts in a decent cross C) Continues at pace into the area shoots or draws a defender into a challenge Thx | ![](/images/avatars/9450.gif) | | ![](/images/icons/ignore-user.png) |
Routledge and Dyer not producing - stats back it up too on 19:11 - Jan 16 with 3868 views | ItchySphincter | No hiding from it, they've both been well below the standards they set for themselves. Add Jazz and we could well have started some games with eight and a half men. Amazing what we've achieved at times. | ![](/images/avatars/9328.gif) |
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Routledge and Dyer not producing - stats back it up too on 19:18 - Jan 16 with 3846 views | NeiltheTaylor | Dyer has more than earned fan support through a dip in form. A very important player for us since he joined and I am confident he will find form again. He has always been streaky. | ![](/images/avatars/0.gif) |
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Routledge and Dyer not producing - stats back it up too on 19:19 - Jan 16 with 3844 views | Trundle10 |
Routledge and Dyer not producing - stats back it up too on 17:09 - Jan 16 by pencoedjack | Dyer is a championship player ... not good enough for PL anymore. |
What a load of complete and utter bollocks | ![](/images/avatars/9438.gif) | | ![](/images/icons/ignore-user.png) |
Routledge and Dyer not producing - stats back it up too on 19:32 - Jan 16 with 3797 views | A_Fans_Dad |
Routledge and Dyer not producing - stats back it up too on 19:09 - Jan 16 by pencoedjack | Glad you agree with me Do you think Dyer normally A) Beats a player turns and plays the ball backwards (to a player who can cross) B) After beating the player puts in a decent cross C) Continues at pace into the area shoots or draws a defender into a challenge Thx |
All of them. But when it is B it does not mean it is a bad cross if there is no one on the end of it and no one on the far post because they haven't kept up with play. Who provided the cross that Gylfi scuffed as a sitter last week? | ![](/images/avatars/0.gif) | | ![](/images/icons/ignore-user.png) |
Routledge and Dyer not producing - stats back it up too on 21:13 - Jan 16 with 3684 views | JBT95 | After this thread I am tempted to put a £10 on Dyer first goalscorer... | ![](/images/avatars/11229.gif) | | ![](/images/icons/ignore-user.png) |
Routledge and Dyer not producing - stats back it up too on 21:25 - Jan 16 with 3653 views | pencoedjack |
Routledge and Dyer not producing - stats back it up too on 21:13 - Jan 16 by JBT95 | After this thread I am tempted to put a £10 on Dyer first goalscorer... |
Funny enough me too | ![](/images/avatars/9450.gif) | | ![](/images/icons/ignore-user.png) |
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