| The 'man marker' 03:13 - Nov 29 with 3923 views | barabajagal |
Folks I have to admit, I have very little knowledge or understanding about the modern game, but I am sure that if we had had someone with pace and guile man marking Aguero three weeks back, we may have had all three points. I remember being told by non-QPR fans that we had the best 'man marker' in the sport in Danny Maddix. My questions are these. Do man markers still exist? If not, why not, and could we employ one? (Genuine questions if any one can offer insight). |  | | |  |
| The 'man marker' on 04:26 - Nov 29 with 3902 views | Hooparoo |
Surely Karl "The enforcer" Henry could do a man marking job if needed. |  |
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| The 'man marker' on 10:06 - Nov 29 with 3773 views | Lblock |
Danny Maddix was the finest purveyor of this "anti-skill" in the game.
I loved that CB partnership of him and Macca and him and Parker and him and Peackock...... basically he made other players he played with look great.
He'd be a shoe in for England honours now and deserves legendary status.
Was it Ian Wright who was red hot at the time and was completely marked out of the game at THAT match at Highbury who said afterwards "I went into the showers after the game and Danny was there next to me again, I expected him to be in the pasenger seat of my car on the way home -- he never gave me a second that day" |  |
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| The 'man marker' on 10:17 - Nov 29 with 3756 views | Pablo_Hoopsta |
| The 'man marker' on 10:06 - Nov 29 by Lblock |
Danny Maddix was the finest purveyor of this "anti-skill" in the game.
I loved that CB partnership of him and Macca and him and Parker and him and Peackock...... basically he made other players he played with look great.
He'd be a shoe in for England honours now and deserves legendary status.
Was it Ian Wright who was red hot at the time and was completely marked out of the game at THAT match at Highbury who said afterwards "I went into the showers after the game and Danny was there next to me again, I expected him to be in the pasenger seat of my car on the way home -- he never gave me a second that day" |
The least arseholey type thing Wright have ever said.
A man marker might mean we don't have a full back four, I'm sure it's employed from time to time but guess the idea was not the spread ourselves too thinly, and paid for it by giving him too much room. |  | | |
| The 'man marker' on 10:30 - Nov 29 with 3741 views | CamberleyR |
Paolo Rossi's goals were important but Italy arguably won a World Cup employing a man marker, the fearsome and notorious Claudio Gentile. In 1982 he didn't give Maradona and Zico, the best two players in the world a kick in their second round matches. Maradona got so frustrated he lashed out and was sent off.
I don't know why it seems to have died out in the modern game. If the opposition has a dangerous player, surely if you starve them the ball by employing a man marker, they can't hurt you and may not win the game.
As Michael Sheen's Brian Clough says in the Damned United film when asked about how they were going to deal with QPR in the next match at Elland Road, "stop Stan Bowles and you stop QPR". Didn't work in that game though as we won 1-0! [Post edited 29 Nov 2014 10:38]
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| The 'man marker' on 10:58 - Nov 29 with 3728 views | barabajagal |
| The 'man marker' on 10:30 - Nov 29 by CamberleyR |
Paolo Rossi's goals were important but Italy arguably won a World Cup employing a man marker, the fearsome and notorious Claudio Gentile. In 1982 he didn't give Maradona and Zico, the best two players in the world a kick in their second round matches. Maradona got so frustrated he lashed out and was sent off.
I don't know why it seems to have died out in the modern game. If the opposition has a dangerous player, surely if you starve them the ball by employing a man marker, they can't hurt you and may not win the game.
As Michael Sheen's Brian Clough says in the Damned United film when asked about how they were going to deal with QPR in the next match at Elland Road, "stop Stan Bowles and you stop QPR". Didn't work in that game though as we won 1-0! [Post edited 29 Nov 2014 10:38]
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Hmmm, So it is now considered a negative concept, a luxury that cannot be afforded in today's fast paced game. I still believe that had we put someone a yard next to Aguero throughout the City game, we'd have won. It may even have frustrated him and led to a sending off, (or more likely he'd keep throwing himself to the floor, and our man would have seen red). Maybe it's time for a return of this concept. What is the over riding skill they would have though? Pace and an ability to read the game I guess. They would have to spend all week studying their man, finding their weaknesses, dealing with their strengths. A little like a boxer. I've convinced my-self. bring back the 'man-marker'. | | | |
| The 'man marker' on 11:00 - Nov 29 with 3721 views | Pablo_Hoopsta |
| The 'man marker' on 10:58 - Nov 29 by barabajagal |
Hmmm, So it is now considered a negative concept, a luxury that cannot be afforded in today's fast paced game. I still believe that had we put someone a yard next to Aguero throughout the City game, we'd have won. It may even have frustrated him and led to a sending off, (or more likely he'd keep throwing himself to the floor, and our man would have seen red). Maybe it's time for a return of this concept. What is the over riding skill they would have though? Pace and an ability to read the game I guess. They would have to spend all week studying their man, finding their weaknesses, dealing with their strengths. A little like a boxer. I've convinced my-self. bring back the 'man-marker'. |
It should've been Barton! | | | |
| The 'man marker' on 11:05 - Nov 29 with 3713 views | TGRRRSSS |
Pabs if Barton did that role he'd get sent off simply cos he's Barton.
I see the point though partly why this man marking thing has gone out of game is cos the importance of structure in a team today and it's Chess style of moving pieces around in effect to create space where a mistake can be made leading to a goal, if you have one player chasing round one specific player surely todays side's would find more ways through.
However City are somewhat reliant on Aguero so maybe as a tactic for certain games... |  | | |
| The 'man marker' on 11:40 - Nov 29 with 3678 views | CamberleyR |
I'm surprised more teams didn't try it with Taarabt in our Championship winning season as he was head and shoulders the best player in the division. | |
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| The 'man marker' on 12:28 - Nov 29 with 3621 views | Jigsore |
| The 'man marker' on 11:40 - Nov 29 by CamberleyR |
I'm surprised more teams didn't try it with Taarabt in our Championship winning season as he was head and shoulders the best player in the division. |
I'm pretty sure they did but most of them didn't have a player with enough nous to deal with him
I do remember that bloody game against Derby where Robbie Savage completely marked Taarabt out of the game though. Think it ended 0-0. [Post edited 29 Nov 2014 12:29]
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| The 'man marker' on 12:42 - Nov 29 with 3598 views | ingeminate |
| The 'man marker' on 12:28 - Nov 29 by Jigsore |
I'm pretty sure they did but most of them didn't have a player with enough nous to deal with him
I do remember that bloody game against Derby where Robbie Savage completely marked Taarabt out of the game though. Think it ended 0-0. [Post edited 29 Nov 2014 12:29]
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Karl Ready did an unexpectedly good job marking Alan shearer once, based on that anything is possible. |  |
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| The 'man marker' on 14:54 - Nov 29 with 3526 views | CamberleyR |
| The 'man marker' on 12:28 - Nov 29 by Jigsore |
I'm pretty sure they did but most of them didn't have a player with enough nous to deal with him
I do remember that bloody game against Derby where Robbie Savage completely marked Taarabt out of the game though. Think it ended 0-0. [Post edited 29 Nov 2014 12:29]
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Yes and he never shut bragging about it for ages afterwards saying AT was "still in his pocket". | |
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| The 'man marker' on 17:02 - Nov 29 with 3496 views | qprmeath |
Adel wouldn't fit in his pocket now |  | | |
| The 'man marker' on 20:05 - Nov 29 with 3379 views | terryb |
And Gary Waddock was superb as a man to man marker in midfield.
Nobody could shake him off. | | | |
| The 'man marker' on 02:42 - Nov 30 with 3242 views | barabajagal |
Thanks every one, there seems that there might be a reasonable call to bring this little lamented position back. As long as it is against a team that has one outstanding player, and providing we have a player with the intelligence and pace to do the job. Great win today, without a man-marker...
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