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Are we actually worse than last time we came up? 18:41 - Oct 5 with 1614 viewsstuabd

I'd say we probably are. Can't see this team winning a point if they carry on like this?
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Are we actually worse than last time we came up? on 18:42 - Oct 5 with 1606 viewsBrixtonR

Yes
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Are we actually worse than last time we came up? on 18:44 - Oct 5 with 1568 viewsrosseeles

I think we have better players, but as a team we are all over the shop
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Are we actually worse than last time we came up? on 18:45 - Oct 5 with 1559 viewsbosh67

I agree and yet it is a better squad than last time. I really don't think it is the players this time. They've had all the coaching, skill and belief drained out of them by coaching suited to Jimmy Hill's Match Of The Day era.

You look at the team that we put out today. Under proper coaching, tactical brains and belief that team should get something out of most games.

Never knowingly right.
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Are we actually worse than last time we came up? on 18:46 - Oct 5 with 1541 viewskropotkin41

Are we actually worse than last time we came up? on 18:45 - Oct 5 by bosh67

I agree and yet it is a better squad than last time. I really don't think it is the players this time. They've had all the coaching, skill and belief drained out of them by coaching suited to Jimmy Hill's Match Of The Day era.

You look at the team that we put out today. Under proper coaching, tactical brains and belief that team should get something out of most games.


That's exactly what TF has to get into his head. The players are good, the squad can do it.......... logically it's got to be the coaching team.

‘morbid curiosity about where this is all going’

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Are we actually worse than last time we came up? on 18:46 - Oct 5 with 1536 viewsstuabd

Are we actually worse than last time we came up? on 18:45 - Oct 5 by bosh67

I agree and yet it is a better squad than last time. I really don't think it is the players this time. They've had all the coaching, skill and belief drained out of them by coaching suited to Jimmy Hill's Match Of The Day era.

You look at the team that we put out today. Under proper coaching, tactical brains and belief that team should get something out of most games.


Harry belongs to another era. The players we have should do better. We look lost.
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Are we actually worse than last time we came up? on 18:49 - Oct 5 with 1501 viewsBrixtonR

Are we actually worse than last time we came up? on 18:45 - Oct 5 by bosh67

I agree and yet it is a better squad than last time. I really don't think it is the players this time. They've had all the coaching, skill and belief drained out of them by coaching suited to Jimmy Hill's Match Of The Day era.

You look at the team that we put out today. Under proper coaching, tactical brains and belief that team should get something out of most games.


I agree that's what's so utterly frustrating. Last season was awful but we somehow got promoted, basically it was so obvious that it should have been Thankyou and Goodbye to Redknapp after the play off final.

In my head I was 100% sure that the season would end up like this, i was just hoping I was wrong

Oh the utter cnt redknapp is on the radio now, cnt
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Are we actually worse than last time we came up? on 18:51 - Oct 5 with 1483 viewshighlandbill

We have more quality in our squad than we have had for years. Its a managers job to utilise his staff and get them playing to their strengths.There is absolutley no sign of this happening.I think Harry must spend too much time down at Sandbanks and maybe needs to stay there for good.

At my age I should not be doing this!

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Are we actually worse than last time we came up? on 18:52 - Oct 5 with 1464 viewsstuabd

If you look back at the first 10 games last time we actually put a few decent performances in. Can you imagine this lot doing well against a side like Arsenal as we did back in 2012-13. We look utterly clueless at the moment.

It was dire last season except for the last couple of games. We have continued in the same way. Depressing.
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Are we actually worse than last time we came up? on 18:57 - Oct 5 with 1430 viewsmendipexile

Yes........because we are just as poor with better players...that takes some doing.
The coaching looks non existent to me.
I wonder if the players are as fed up with it all as they look?
Each week I think we can't be as bad as last time......then we're worse!
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Are we actually worse than last time we came up? on 19:02 - Oct 5 with 1398 viewsEalingRanger

Yes - we actually put in a few promising performances in the first couple of months in 2012-13. This season has been utterly dire so far.
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Are we actually worse than last time we came up? on 19:05 - Oct 5 with 1378 viewsstuabd

Are we actually worse than last time we came up? on 19:02 - Oct 5 by EalingRanger

Yes - we actually put in a few promising performances in the first couple of months in 2012-13. This season has been utterly dire so far.


We were at least in a few games back then.
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Are we actually worse than last time we came up? on 19:09 - Oct 5 with 1353 viewskropotkin41

So the consensus is that, like for like, first games of the season in the Prem. Harry is making MH look good! In fact I recall Wenger complimenting our performance against Arsenal!

Here we are........... we've gone backwards so far that we feel nostalgia for Hughes.


‘morbid curiosity about where this is all going’

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Are we actually worse than last time we came up? on 19:22 - Oct 5 with 1305 viewsEalingRanger

Are we actually worse than last time we came up? on 19:05 - Oct 5 by stuabd

We were at least in a few games back then.


Chelsea at home and Spurs away spring to mind.
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Are we actually worse than last time we came up? on 19:29 - Oct 5 with 1276 viewsHunterhoop

Are we actually worse than last time we came up? on 18:45 - Oct 5 by bosh67

I agree and yet it is a better squad than last time. I really don't think it is the players this time. They've had all the coaching, skill and belief drained out of them by coaching suited to Jimmy Hill's Match Of The Day era.

You look at the team that we put out today. Under proper coaching, tactical brains and belief that team should get something out of most games.


100% correct, Bosh, as usual.
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Are we actually worse than last time we came up? on 19:31 - Oct 5 with 1250 viewsSomersetHoops

When did we last improve a player by our coaching and team environment? I can't think of one during the Fernandes era, but the problem goes back way before that. Players coming into QPR must think they have found their career graveyard. That is what we have become, so its no wonder players aren't performing. Its not a new training ground we need, it is a new management structure in the model developed by Southampton or other clubs who consistently develop talent, improve their players and sell them at a profit. At QPR we do the reverse of that.

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Are we actually worse than last time we came up? on 19:33 - Oct 5 with 1230 viewsRuislipHoop

Are we actually worse than last time we came up? on 19:31 - Oct 5 by SomersetHoops

When did we last improve a player by our coaching and team environment? I can't think of one during the Fernandes era, but the problem goes back way before that. Players coming into QPR must think they have found their career graveyard. That is what we have become, so its no wonder players aren't performing. Its not a new training ground we need, it is a new management structure in the model developed by Southampton or other clubs who consistently develop talent, improve their players and sell them at a profit. At QPR we do the reverse of that.


Funny you should say that,when TF first came to the club that's exactly what he said !!!
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Are we actually worse than last time we came up? on 19:38 - Oct 5 with 1192 viewsShotKneesHoop

Yes, by a country mile, no one gives a toss, nil team spirit. Shyte to watch.

Why does it feel like R'SWiPe is still on the books? Yer Couldn't Make It Up.Well Done Me!

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Are we actually worse than last time we came up? on 19:41 - Oct 5 with 1158 viewsTheBlob

Are we actually worse than last time we came up? on 19:09 - Oct 5 by kropotkin41

So the consensus is that, like for like, first games of the season in the Prem. Harry is making MH look good! In fact I recall Wenger complimenting our performance against Arsenal!

Here we are........... we've gone backwards so far that we feel nostalgia for Hughes.



There is no way,no f*cking way I'll feel nostalgic for Hughes.

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Are we actually worse than last time we came up? on 19:47 - Oct 5 with 1135 viewsvegasranger

I'm not sure this is a better squad. We have three centre backs who are 35 years or older. We have full backs who are wing backs. We have Henry looking decent in our team that would struggle in the Championship. We have Zamora, old and can't last 90 minutes.Charlie up front on his own with no Premiership experience. We have Tarrabt who doesn't want to get fit, thinks he is too good for us and no-one else wants to buy as our potential saviour.
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