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What the hell is going on in London these days 18:28 - May 8 with 4288 views73__73

Two more killed in the last 24 hours. Sodom & Gomorrah comes to mind.

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What the hell is going on in London these days on 18:31 - May 8 with 2100 viewsDwightYorkeSuperstar

"Knife crime in London has increased by more than 60 per cent between Mr Khan taking office in May 2016 and the start of the pandemic in March last year, according to Office for National Statistics figures."

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/mayor/london-elections-voters-knife-crime-top-pr

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What the hell is going on in London these days on 18:32 - May 8 with 2091 viewsonehunglow

What the hell is going on in London these days on 18:31 - May 8 by DwightYorkeSuperstar

"Knife crime in London has increased by more than 60 per cent between Mr Khan taking office in May 2016 and the start of the pandemic in March last year, according to Office for National Statistics figures."

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/mayor/london-elections-voters-knife-crime-top-pr


Going to get elected again. Labour innit .for the people .

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What the hell is going on in London these days on 18:34 - May 8 with 2092 views73__73

What the hell is going on in London these days on 18:32 - May 8 by onehunglow

Going to get elected again. Labour innit .for the people .


London is red

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What the hell is going on in London these days on 18:35 - May 8 with 2083 viewsonehunglow

What the hell is going on in London these days on 18:34 - May 8 by 73__73

London is red


It is indeed. You ever been to Bermondsey

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What the hell is going on in London these days on 18:36 - May 8 with 2085 viewsfelixstowe_jack

What the hell is going on in London these days on 18:34 - May 8 by 73__73

London is red


Sadly Sadiq Khan does not care about knife crime. He stops any attemps by the police to stop knife crime.

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What the hell is going on in London these days on 18:39 - May 8 with 2081 views73__73

What the hell is going on in London these days on 18:35 - May 8 by onehunglow

It is indeed. You ever been to Bermondsey


Yes went to Millwall ten years ago.

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What the hell is going on in London these days on 19:24 - May 8 with 2044 viewsonehunglow

What the hell is going on in London these days on 18:39 - May 8 by 73__73

Yes went to Millwall ten years ago.


Solid screw innit.

I used to be well into Speedway .

Crayford ,White City, Hackney, The biggest crap holes imaginable ..Plough Lane Wimbledon too .

I detest London full stop

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What the hell is going on in London these days on 19:41 - May 8 with 2035 views73__73

What the hell is going on in London these days on 19:24 - May 8 by onehunglow

Solid screw innit.

I used to be well into Speedway .

Crayford ,White City, Hackney, The biggest crap holes imaginable ..Plough Lane Wimbledon too .

I detest London full stop


It’s red. So all is well

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What the hell is going on in London these days on 21:24 - May 8 with 1969 viewsmajorraglan

What the hell is going on in London these days on 18:31 - May 8 by DwightYorkeSuperstar

"Knife crime in London has increased by more than 60 per cent between Mr Khan taking office in May 2016 and the start of the pandemic in March last year, according to Office for National Statistics figures."

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/mayor/london-elections-voters-knife-crime-top-pr


It may well have increased by 60%, but the problems run much deeper and go back a lot further than Khan’s tenure in post and it’s not just a policing side.

Police Officer numbers have tumbled since 2009 and policing has experienced huge cuts, while numbers are now increasing after Boris has pumped more money in they are still below where they were in 2009. The new cops will all be green and need years to get up to speed. The Home Office dictate what happens in policing the same as they do with sentencing in criminal courts, judges and magistrates apply the guidelines they are given, if you want to incarcerate more people you need more places in jails. Stop and Search is controversial, cops using it run the risk of being demonised as racist.

This is not just a policing issue, it’s an issue for society. Lots of this is gang related, kids are growing up in sinkhole estates, underachieve in school, don’t have a stable family environment, don’t have role models to guide the, font have a prospect of a job, won’t get on the housing ladder and to top that they are surrounded by mass consumerism when there is pressure for branded products etc which they will never be able to afford.

Sadly, I suspect it’s going to get a lot worse before it gets better, if you have money London is great, if you don’t it can be unpleasant.
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What the hell is going on in London these days on 21:30 - May 8 with 1964 viewsBoundy


"In a free society, the State is the servant of the people—not the master."

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What the hell is going on in London these days on 21:33 - May 8 with 1958 viewsonehunglow

It is pointless having extra police if they are nit allowed to get stuck into criminals .

As it is,stop search is hated.

What is the alternatives ,libs

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What the hell is going on in London these days on 21:43 - May 8 with 1946 viewsFlashberryjack

What the hell is going on in London these days on 21:24 - May 8 by majorraglan

It may well have increased by 60%, but the problems run much deeper and go back a lot further than Khan’s tenure in post and it’s not just a policing side.

Police Officer numbers have tumbled since 2009 and policing has experienced huge cuts, while numbers are now increasing after Boris has pumped more money in they are still below where they were in 2009. The new cops will all be green and need years to get up to speed. The Home Office dictate what happens in policing the same as they do with sentencing in criminal courts, judges and magistrates apply the guidelines they are given, if you want to incarcerate more people you need more places in jails. Stop and Search is controversial, cops using it run the risk of being demonised as racist.

This is not just a policing issue, it’s an issue for society. Lots of this is gang related, kids are growing up in sinkhole estates, underachieve in school, don’t have a stable family environment, don’t have role models to guide the, font have a prospect of a job, won’t get on the housing ladder and to top that they are surrounded by mass consumerism when there is pressure for branded products etc which they will never be able to afford.

Sadly, I suspect it’s going to get a lot worse before it gets better, if you have money London is great, if you don’t it can be unpleasant.


It's always "someone else's fault" society we live in.

Hello
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What the hell is going on in London these days on 22:13 - May 8 with 1905 viewscontroversial_jack

What the hell is going on in London these days on 21:33 - May 8 by onehunglow

It is pointless having extra police if they are nit allowed to get stuck into criminals .

As it is,stop search is hated.

What is the alternatives ,libs


It's not a case of having extra police, it's about not cutting their numbers in the first place.

A decade of Conservative govt.

Guess who was Mayor during the London riots?
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What the hell is going on in London these days on 22:28 - May 8 with 1909 viewsBoundy

What the hell is going on in London these days on 22:13 - May 8 by controversial_jack

It's not a case of having extra police, it's about not cutting their numbers in the first place.

A decade of Conservative govt.

Guess who was Mayor during the London riots?


Guess who's the Mayor today and has been for the past 6 years , Police numbers in London had dropped and continued to do so from the start of Khans tenure and guess who's responsible for providing the funds .
The Mayor of London sets the budget and is responsible for making London a better place for everyone who visits, lives or works in the city.

"In a free society, the State is the servant of the people—not the master."

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What the hell is going on in London these days on 22:47 - May 8 with 1899 viewsmajorraglan

What the hell is going on in London these days on 21:43 - May 8 by Flashberryjack

It's always "someone else's fault" society we live in.


The people who commit these offences must be held responsible for their actions and they need to be made examples of, but you are right blaming it on someone else is the default position in our society, hardly anyone - particularly politicians will accept responsibility and they are quick enough to apportion blame elsewhere or avoid the issue completely.
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What the hell is going on in London these days on 22:55 - May 8 with 1891 views73__73

What the hell is going on in London these days on 21:24 - May 8 by majorraglan

It may well have increased by 60%, but the problems run much deeper and go back a lot further than Khan’s tenure in post and it’s not just a policing side.

Police Officer numbers have tumbled since 2009 and policing has experienced huge cuts, while numbers are now increasing after Boris has pumped more money in they are still below where they were in 2009. The new cops will all be green and need years to get up to speed. The Home Office dictate what happens in policing the same as they do with sentencing in criminal courts, judges and magistrates apply the guidelines they are given, if you want to incarcerate more people you need more places in jails. Stop and Search is controversial, cops using it run the risk of being demonised as racist.

This is not just a policing issue, it’s an issue for society. Lots of this is gang related, kids are growing up in sinkhole estates, underachieve in school, don’t have a stable family environment, don’t have role models to guide the, font have a prospect of a job, won’t get on the housing ladder and to top that they are surrounded by mass consumerism when there is pressure for branded products etc which they will never be able to afford.

Sadly, I suspect it’s going to get a lot worse before it gets better, if you have money London is great, if you don’t it can be unpleasant.


What have police numbers got to do with it. When I was growing up, you’d hardly ever see a police officer, yet we didn’t go around stabbing each other.

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What the hell is going on in London these days on 22:58 - May 8 with 1886 views73__73

What the hell is going on in London these days on 22:13 - May 8 by controversial_jack

It's not a case of having extra police, it's about not cutting their numbers in the first place.

A decade of Conservative govt.

Guess who was Mayor during the London riots?


So are you seriously suggesting that we need a huge police presence in London in 2021 to stop people killing each other.

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What the hell is going on in London these days on 23:11 - May 8 with 1878 viewsmajorraglan

What the hell is going on in London these days on 22:28 - May 8 by Boundy

Guess who's the Mayor today and has been for the past 6 years , Police numbers in London had dropped and continued to do so from the start of Khans tenure and guess who's responsible for providing the funds .
The Mayor of London sets the budget and is responsible for making London a better place for everyone who visits, lives or works in the city.


A couple of errors in your post, Khan’s been mayor since 2016 which is 5 years and not 6. Police numbers in England and Wales started dropping in 2010 and by 2019 there were 20,600 less, the numbers have increased by about 6,000 since then on account of Boris initiative, but it’s still about 10,000 less than when Cameron came in to power.

Khan sets the budget, but the bulk of police funding in England and Wales comes from central government, it’s something like 75% -80% Home Office funded and the rest is raised from the local policing precept. If the government cut the central grants (which they had been doing) police numbers have to be cut.

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What the hell is going on in London these days on 23:25 - May 8 with 1844 viewscontroversial_jack

What the hell is going on in London these days on 22:28 - May 8 by Boundy

Guess who's the Mayor today and has been for the past 6 years , Police numbers in London had dropped and continued to do so from the start of Khans tenure and guess who's responsible for providing the funds .
The Mayor of London sets the budget and is responsible for making London a better place for everyone who visits, lives or works in the city.


You need to look at your post again.Westminster sets the funding for the police.

Boris was mayor during the London riots
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What the hell is going on in London these days on 23:27 - May 8 with 1859 viewsjack_lord

What the hell is going on in London these days on 18:32 - May 8 by onehunglow

Going to get elected again. Labour innit .for the people .


True to form Rich.

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What the hell is going on in London these days on 23:44 - May 8 with 1852 viewsmajorraglan

What the hell is going on in London these days on 22:55 - May 8 by 73__73

What have police numbers got to do with it. When I was growing up, you’d hardly ever see a police officer, yet we didn’t go around stabbing each other.


Times have changed and society is different. When I was a kid we hardly ever saw the police, we’d play football in the park and apart from a bit of hedge hoping and ringing a doorbell and running off we’d keep our heads down, there’d be a scrap or two, but no knives etc. If we saw the village bobby, we’d stay out of his way.

Dealing with the knife crime problem isn’t going to be easy for some of reasons I outlined earlier - if it was simple it’d would have been already. There has to be a political will to do it and support for the police which will invariably have to use the very “controversial” stop and search powers. To do that the police need to have staff on the ground pro actively targeting these offenders, by using specialist teams of staff and also using community officers to build up intelligence pictures. Part of the issue with stop search is that too many innocent people are being searched so to avoid that it needs to be more targeted. If the police haven’t got the staff to deal with calls from the public etc then it’s unlikely they’re going to have the time to drive around just looking for people who could be carrying knives search. Knife crime is a priority, but so is locking up terrorists, internet child porn sex offenders, rapists etc and when numbers are falling something would have to give.
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What the hell is going on in London these days on 23:48 - May 8 with 1843 viewsmajorraglan

What the hell is going on in London these days on 22:58 - May 8 by 73__73

So are you seriously suggesting that we need a huge police presence in London in 2021 to stop people killing each other.


What are your suggestions for dealing with the knife crime problem?
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What the hell is going on in London these days on 23:58 - May 8 with 1838 viewsSandanista

Homicide rates are lower in London than in 1990s. Violent theft or mugging much reduced. Daily Mail talk with forked tongue 🐍
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What the hell is going on in London these days on 00:01 - May 9 with 1836 viewsjack_lord

What the hell is going on in London these days on 23:48 - May 8 by majorraglan

What are your suggestions for dealing with the knife crime problem?


There are government departments who would love to see the suggestions.

The streets are a different place. Hell, they were hugely different in London compared to Swansea back in the early 80's.

Who knows if the governments since 1980 have been part of the problem with the policies or if it would be like this anyway.

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What the hell is going on in London these days on 00:09 - May 9 with 1827 views73__73

What the hell is going on in London these days on 23:48 - May 8 by majorraglan

What are your suggestions for dealing with the knife crime problem?


My suggestions would be for everyone who can get the fook out of London to do so.

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