| Guidolin: Right Man, Wrong Tools on 00:20 - Feb 10 with 1850 views | Banosswan |
He's old, leave him alone.
It is exactly this type of statistical analysis that stifles British sport (I've seen in first hand in rugby). Big numbers don't mean big results. |  |
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| Guidolin: Right Man, Wrong Tools on 03:16 - Feb 10 with 1801 views | Tummer_from_Texas |
| Guidolin: Right Man, Wrong Tools on 14:58 - Feb 9 by londonlisa2001 |
Well one thing that I could have predicted based on past evidence is that you would attempt to try to criticise what I wrote without admitting that you had read it since you lack the intellectual honesty to engage in a discussion with someone that you know is going to make you look stupid (again).
I'm not entering a discussion on the rest of the nonsense contained within your little tantrum as you don't know what you're talking about.
Grow up. |
I guess I missed the "tantrum" part of Dav's reply. Or maybe there's more to this than just this thread, because I have no idea how this got so contentious when y'all are both making a lot of good, sound points.
He's right though about how people often hate statistics simply because they misuse them. The purpose is not to predict, especially in such a fluid situation as this Swans season. And it does get more than a little annoying when a straw man argument is created out of this misuse, though I'm not sure that was a personal shot at you, Lisa, especially since he was quoting someone else.
You'd think the oft used disclaimer "past results do not guarantee future performance" would sorta go without saying, but there's a reason you see it used over and over again. [Post edited 10 Feb 2016 3:30]
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| Guidolin: Right Man, Wrong Tools on 06:29 - Feb 10 with 1764 views | EasternJack |
| Guidolin: Right Man, Wrong Tools on 03:16 - Feb 10 by Tummer_from_Texas |
I guess I missed the "tantrum" part of Dav's reply. Or maybe there's more to this than just this thread, because I have no idea how this got so contentious when y'all are both making a lot of good, sound points.
He's right though about how people often hate statistics simply because they misuse them. The purpose is not to predict, especially in such a fluid situation as this Swans season. And it does get more than a little annoying when a straw man argument is created out of this misuse, though I'm not sure that was a personal shot at you, Lisa, especially since he was quoting someone else.
You'd think the oft used disclaimer "past results do not guarantee future performance" would sorta go without saying, but there's a reason you see it used over and over again. [Post edited 10 Feb 2016 3:30]
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I agree with this Tummer.
A balanced view always has room for data.
I also agree that reactions on here often become unnecessarily condescending or insulting without real justification/provocation. My advice is to try and read any post at face value without making any pre-conceived assumptions on hidden meanings or carrying any baggage from previous disputes with the poster. Sometimes difficult with the games some play on here.
Each to their own. It's only an internet forum.
Anyway - it's been at least 4 clear pages since I tried (and miserably failed) to derail this predictable car crash of a thread. Anyone else got any dick jokes? [Post edited 10 Feb 2016 6:30]
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| Guidolin: Right Man, Wrong Tools on 07:47 - Feb 10 with 1741 views | JackFish |
| Guidolin: Right Man, Wrong Tools on 10:43 - Feb 9 by Dr_Winston |
Barring Laudrup's first six months and the promotion season under Martinez, the year under KJ where we scored well over 100 goals in all comps is up there for the most fun I've had watching us. |
We had some huge wins in the first half of our first season at the Liberty, 7-1 vs Bristol City, 5-2 at Walsall and 5-1 vs Chesterfield to name a few. It was the right time for him to leave when he did, but to paint his entire reign as dull as some people do is definitely wrong. |  | | |
| Guidolin: Right Man, Wrong Tools on 07:58 - Feb 10 with 1731 views | Dr_Winston |
| Guidolin: Right Man, Wrong Tools on 07:47 - Feb 10 by JackFish |
We had some huge wins in the first half of our first season at the Liberty, 7-1 vs Bristol City, 5-2 at Walsall and 5-1 vs Chesterfield to name a few. It was the right time for him to leave when he did, but to paint his entire reign as dull as some people do is definitely wrong. |
Most people acknowledge that now, apart from a few misanthropic types. |  |
| Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair, or f*cking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back. |
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| Guidolin: Right Man, Wrong Tools on 08:43 - Feb 10 with 1702 views | monmouth |
| Guidolin: Right Man, Wrong Tools on 07:58 - Feb 10 by Dr_Winston |
Most people acknowledge that now, apart from a few misanthropic types. |
Was that when Tatey and Leon were carving up the right side of the field? I remember a 3-2 against Blackpool where they all stopped for offside and Trunds walked alongside the ball into the net, and McLeod smacking in a couple in a 3-1 (?) against Barnsley. Those were good, entertaining days out.
I also remember Scunny home 0-2 where it was obvious he had to go as the wheels had come off. Plus ca change....or some other apt froggy phrase. |  |
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| Guidolin: Right Man, Wrong Tools on 08:57 - Feb 10 with 1689 views | VetchitBack |
| Guidolin: Right Man, Wrong Tools on 00:09 - Feb 10 by Davillin |
It is ever interesting to see how different people can see the same thing so differently.
I don't think Flynn "got us up" or even "kept us up." At best, he didn't put us down. Not the same.
I'll never forget his outrageous antics on television in celebration of the Swans staying up. As if he had something to do with it. |
First sentence very apt Davillin as I was talking about Jackett! |  |
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| Guidolin: Right Man, Wrong Tools on 09:58 - Feb 10 with 1655 views | PapaLazarou |
| Guidolin: Right Man, Wrong Tools on 08:43 - Feb 10 by monmouth |
Was that when Tatey and Leon were carving up the right side of the field? I remember a 3-2 against Blackpool where they all stopped for offside and Trunds walked alongside the ball into the net, and McLeod smacking in a couple in a 3-1 (?) against Barnsley. Those were good, entertaining days out.
I also remember Scunny home 0-2 where it was obvious he had to go as the wheels had come off. Plus ca change....or some other apt froggy phrase. |
Always remember going to Southend in a 1st vs 2nd clash. Billed as Eastwood vs Trundle by the media (biggest match that weekend due to International break), and turning them over with some brilliant attacking football under KJ.
Great away day. |  | | |
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| Guidolin: Right Man, Wrong Tools on 10:12 - Feb 10 with 1653 views | Dr_Winston |
| Guidolin: Right Man, Wrong Tools on 08:43 - Feb 10 by monmouth |
Was that when Tatey and Leon were carving up the right side of the field? I remember a 3-2 against Blackpool where they all stopped for offside and Trunds walked alongside the ball into the net, and McLeod smacking in a couple in a 3-1 (?) against Barnsley. Those were good, entertaining days out.
I also remember Scunny home 0-2 where it was obvious he had to go as the wheels had come off. Plus ca change....or some other apt froggy phrase. |
That's the one. | |
| Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair, or f*cking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back. |
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| Guidolin: Right Man, Wrong Tools on 10:32 - Feb 10 with 1634 views | Lord_Bony |
| Guidolin: Right Man, Wrong Tools on 08:43 - Feb 10 by monmouth |
Was that when Tatey and Leon were carving up the right side of the field? I remember a 3-2 against Blackpool where they all stopped for offside and Trunds walked alongside the ball into the net, and McLeod smacking in a couple in a 3-1 (?) against Barnsley. Those were good, entertaining days out.
I also remember Scunny home 0-2 where it was obvious he had to go as the wheels had come off. Plus ca change....or some other apt froggy phrase. |
Didn't Garry Monk get sent off during that Scunthorpe game?
His only time ..  |  |
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| Guidolin: Right Man, Wrong Tools on 10:35 - Feb 10 with 1626 views | Darran |
| Guidolin: Right Man, Wrong Tools on 10:32 - Feb 10 by Lord_Bony |
Didn't Garry Monk get sent off during that Scunthorpe game?
His only time .. |
Wasn't his only time. |  |
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| Guidolin: Right Man, Wrong Tools on 10:57 - Feb 10 with 1599 views | Lord_Bony |
| Guidolin: Right Man, Wrong Tools on 10:35 - Feb 10 by Darran |
Wasn't his only time. |
Probably correct...a right dirty get when he wanted to be...
But he still did us proud..  | |
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| Guidolin: Right Man, Wrong Tools on 12:29 - Feb 10 with 1543 views | JackFish |
| Guidolin: Right Man, Wrong Tools on 10:35 - Feb 10 by Darran |
Wasn't his only time. |
Remember him getting sent off at Mansfield, I think in our promotion season?, for picking up two yellow cards in a minute. If I remember correctly that was the game where Austin had a goal disallowed down the other end right at the start but nobody seemed to realise that it had been disallowed. I was very confused when everyone I spoke to at half time thought it was 1-1. | | | |
| Guidolin: Right Man, Wrong Tools on 13:52 - Feb 10 with 1502 views | Davillin |
| Guidolin: Right Man, Wrong Tools on 08:57 - Feb 10 by VetchitBack |
First sentence very apt Davillin as I was talking about Jackett! |
"Eyes have they but they see not." Sorry. |  |
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| Guidolin: Right Man, Wrong Tools on 16:37 - Feb 10 with 1438 views | Uxbridge |
| Guidolin: Right Man, Wrong Tools on 12:29 - Feb 10 by JackFish |
Remember him getting sent off at Mansfield, I think in our promotion season?, for picking up two yellow cards in a minute. If I remember correctly that was the game where Austin had a goal disallowed down the other end right at the start but nobody seemed to realise that it had been disallowed. I was very confused when everyone I spoke to at half time thought it was 1-1. |
We best not mention Shrewsbury either ... |  |
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| Guidolin: Right Man, Wrong Tools on 17:05 - Feb 10 with 1397 views | karnataka |
| Guidolin: Right Man, Wrong Tools on 13:52 - Feb 10 by Davillin |
"Eyes have they but they see not." Sorry. |
Sounds like something Yoda would say! Was it him? |  | | |
| Guidolin: Right Man, Wrong Tools on 18:28 - Feb 10 with 1358 views | londonlisa2001 |
| Guidolin: Right Man, Wrong Tools on 17:05 - Feb 10 by karnataka |
Sounds like something Yoda would say! Was it him? |
It's one of the psalms - can't remember which one. |  | | |
| Guidolin: Right Man, Wrong Tools on 21:29 - Feb 10 with 1303 views | Davillin |
| Guidolin: Right Man, Wrong Tools on 17:05 - Feb 10 by karnataka |
Sounds like something Yoda would say! Was it him? |
One of the Psalms, 115? [I had looked it up some time ago, by old man's memory banks are over-full.] | |
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| Guidolin: Right Man, Wrong Tools on 21:46 - Feb 10 with 1290 views | longlostjack |
Wasn't the statistician's psalm then - the good old Nr23 ! Being the sum of three other consecutive prime numbers 5, 7 and 11.
"Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil: for thou art with me; ceteris paribus." |  |
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| Guidolin: Right Man, Wrong Tools on 08:39 - Feb 11 with 1226 views | JackFish |
| Guidolin: Right Man, Wrong Tools on 16:37 - Feb 10 by Uxbridge |
We best not mention Shrewsbury either ... |
Or Charlton...
It wasn't quite at master O'Leary's level, but he did manage a fair few! | | | |
| Guidolin: Right Man, Wrong Tools on 09:39 - Feb 11 with 1199 views | Starsky |
| Guidolin: Right Man, Wrong Tools on 07:47 - Feb 10 by JackFish |
We had some huge wins in the first half of our first season at the Liberty, 7-1 vs Bristol City, 5-2 at Walsall and 5-1 vs Chesterfield to name a few. It was the right time for him to leave when he did, but to paint his entire reign as dull as some people do is definitely wrong. |
Agree with all that.
It changed for me not long after we extended his contract.
A bit like Monk after his contract was revised. |  |
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