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Sunny Bournemouth Match Thread 16:31 - Sep 13 with 41999 viewsPinnerPaul

Just in case my granddaughter prevents me from getting on here tomorrow, and someone unwittingly breaks the 'spell', I'm going (very) early!

1-0 to us - Willock.
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Sunny Bournemouth Match Thread on 22:23 - Sep 14 with 2128 viewsBenny_the_Ball

Sunny Bournemouth Match Thread on 22:03 - Sep 14 by Greenbay

Antti - the difference was we tore them to shreds in the last 10-15 minutes.
Yes agree with you that we were on top - possession wise - in the opening 10 but we did not puncture their defence like we did in the closing stages.


Agreed. For the second game in succession the double sub and switch of formation changed the game and we looked more dangerous. Lots for Warburton to consider for the next match.
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Sunny Bournemouth Match Thread on 22:23 - Sep 14 with 2126 viewsdmm

Instead of always hauling ourselves back into a game, perhaps we could try getting ourselves well ahead and seeing how that works out?

It's all bloody good entertainment though and there's so much to like about this season.
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Sunny Bournemouth Match Thread on 22:24 - Sep 14 with 2116 viewsWatford_Ranger

Sunny Bournemouth Match Thread on 22:21 - Sep 14 by CliveWilsonSaid

My point was Lee Hendrie on the commentry team calling for a red card was wrong. He was doing it all match against us. Why is any QPR fan sticking up for him?

Commentators shouldn't be calling for red cards in that sort of situation. Fair enough if Willock had been violent.

It was far from violent. It was a bit of a reaction. If the referee decides it's a red fair enough.

Commentators should not be calling for red cards in that sort of situation.


The bloke barely knows it’s Tuesday. I wouldn’t let him get to you.
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Sunny Bournemouth Match Thread on 22:26 - Sep 14 with 2084 viewsnix

Sunny Bournemouth Match Thread on 22:06 - Sep 14 by Benny_the_Ball

"Willock reacts a little bit." LOL!

I didn't like Bournemouth's antics anymore than the next man but they were smarter than QPR tonight and Willock deserved to see red for kicking out at their player. If anything, Stroud was consistent in showing the same leniency to Willock that he showed Bournemouth all evening.


Disagree.

He wouldn't have kicked out - and it was such a weak attempt at a kick out it wouldn't even have hurt me - if they hadn't been barging him over and wiping him out the entire evening with zero protection. Book a couple of them when they started it in the first half and it wouldn't have happened. I'm afraid I disagree with Clive on this, our players, particularly Willock, are not being protected with all this softly, softly refereeing.

Rare for Warbs to complain about the number of fouls, but he did today.
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Sunny Bournemouth Match Thread on 22:26 - Sep 14 with 2076 viewsgazza1

Sunny Bournemouth Match Thread on 22:21 - Sep 14 by CliveWilsonSaid

My point was Lee Hendrie on the commentry team calling for a red card was wrong. He was doing it all match against us. Why is any QPR fan sticking up for him?

Commentators shouldn't be calling for red cards in that sort of situation. Fair enough if Willock had been violent.

It was far from violent. It was a bit of a reaction. If the referee decides it's a red fair enough.

Commentators should not be calling for red cards in that sort of situation.


Willock should have been sent off.....end of. Hendrie was 100% correct. He was very complimentary to us overall and so was the players in the studio. Not sure what there is to complain about.

I really cant believe all this utter rubbish being spouted on about.....we lost, we played not too bad, we gave a top Championship side a 'run for their lives' only saved by their keeper. WTF is there to any point in making all these utter stupid comments.
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Sunny Bournemouth Match Thread on 22:27 - Sep 14 with 2074 viewsBenny_the_Ball

Sunny Bournemouth Match Thread on 22:21 - Sep 14 by CliveWilsonSaid

My point was Lee Hendrie on the commentry team calling for a red card was wrong. He was doing it all match against us. Why is any QPR fan sticking up for him?

Commentators shouldn't be calling for red cards in that sort of situation. Fair enough if Willock had been violent.

It was far from violent. It was a bit of a reaction. If the referee decides it's a red fair enough.

Commentators should not be calling for red cards in that sort of situation.


Disagree wholeheartedly on both counts.

Commentators are paid to call what they see. If they think that the player might see red, then they'll say so. I was certainly expecting one.

Willock kicked out at his man. That was violent conduct and he was fortunate to stay on the pitch.
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Sunny Bournemouth Match Thread on 22:27 - Sep 14 with 2069 viewskarl

Sunny Bournemouth Match Thread on 22:21 - Sep 14 by CliveWilsonSaid

My point was Lee Hendrie on the commentry team calling for a red card was wrong. He was doing it all match against us. Why is any QPR fan sticking up for him?

Commentators shouldn't be calling for red cards in that sort of situation. Fair enough if Willock had been violent.

It was far from violent. It was a bit of a reaction. If the referee decides it's a red fair enough.

Commentators should not be calling for red cards in that sort of situation.


He also called for Billing not to get a yellow for his knee up block on Kakay 1st half, claiming Ossie ran at him!
Definite deliberate block and yellow card.
Billing in another situation could have had a straight red for his shoulder in the back of Willock, reckless for sure with current knowledge of whiplash/head injuries.
I would say it wasn't a red but I've no doubt someone will see it for a similar challenge this season. He'd have definitely been sinbinned in the rugby!
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Sunny Bournemouth Match Thread on 22:29 - Sep 14 with 2033 viewsCliveWilsonSaid

Sunny Bournemouth Match Thread on 22:24 - Sep 14 by Watford_Ranger

The bloke barely knows it’s Tuesday. I wouldn’t let him get to you.


What a c0ck.

I had the commentry muted most of the match.

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Sunny Bournemouth Match Thread on 22:31 - Sep 14 with 1986 viewsCliveWilsonSaid

Sunny Bournemouth Match Thread on 22:27 - Sep 14 by Benny_the_Ball

Disagree wholeheartedly on both counts.

Commentators are paid to call what they see. If they think that the player might see red, then they'll say so. I was certainly expecting one.

Willock kicked out at his man. That was violent conduct and he was fortunate to stay on the pitch.
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It wasn't violence Benny. It was nothing and the ref called it right.

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Sunny Bournemouth Match Thread on 22:31 - Sep 14 with 1979 viewsOldPedro

Sunny Bournemouth Match Thread on 22:29 - Sep 14 by CliveWilsonSaid

What a c0ck.

I had the commentry muted most of the match.


It's a pity you can't choose to watch without any commentary but with all of the noise from the ground!!

Extra mature cheddar......a simple cheese for a simple man

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Sunny Bournemouth Match Thread on 22:37 - Sep 14 with 1902 viewsCliveWilsonSaid

Sunny Bournemouth Match Thread on 22:27 - Sep 14 by karl

He also called for Billing not to get a yellow for his knee up block on Kakay 1st half, claiming Ossie ran at him!
Definite deliberate block and yellow card.
Billing in another situation could have had a straight red for his shoulder in the back of Willock, reckless for sure with current knowledge of whiplash/head injuries.
I would say it wasn't a red but I've no doubt someone will see it for a similar challenge this season. He'd have definitely been sinbinned in the rugby!


Yeah that one on Kakay got me too. Ossie ran in to him on purpose bollox. As soon as they saw the replay they shut up immediately.

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Sunny Bournemouth Match Thread on 22:38 - Sep 14 with 1894 viewsBenny_the_Ball

Sunny Bournemouth Match Thread on 22:26 - Sep 14 by nix

Disagree.

He wouldn't have kicked out - and it was such a weak attempt at a kick out it wouldn't even have hurt me - if they hadn't been barging him over and wiping him out the entire evening with zero protection. Book a couple of them when they started it in the first half and it wouldn't have happened. I'm afraid I disagree with Clive on this, our players, particularly Willock, are not being protected with all this softly, softly refereeing.

Rare for Warbs to complain about the number of fouls, but he did today.


No disrespect but that's nonsense. Willock aggressively kicked out at their player and made contact with the kick. Whether he was provoked or hurt the other player in the process is irrelevant.

Warburton can complain about the number of fouls all he likes but if truth be told he needs to teach his players how to master the dark arts because occasionally refs are weak and your team has to be ready to take advantage. Bournemouth certainly did.
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Sunny Bournemouth Match Thread on 22:41 - Sep 14 with 1853 viewsBenny_the_Ball

Sunny Bournemouth Match Thread on 22:31 - Sep 14 by CliveWilsonSaid

It wasn't violence Benny. It was nothing and the ref called it right.


It was violent conduct and you know it. The ref simply showed the same leniency he afforded Bournemouth all evening.
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Sunny Bournemouth Match Thread on 22:43 - Sep 14 with 1833 viewsCliveWilsonSaid

Sunny Bournemouth Match Thread on 22:31 - Sep 14 by OldPedro

It's a pity you can't choose to watch without any commentary but with all of the noise from the ground!!


That thought came into my mind once or twice tonight OldPedro. I had a good look for the Andy Sinton button on my TV remote!

I think I'm just better off watching in the ground. Which is where I'll be for most of the upcoming matches.

Except of course the SKY early kickoff game v Fulham of course!

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Sunny Bournemouth Match Thread on 22:45 - Sep 14 with 1804 viewsSuperhoop83

That f***ing commentator on Sky.

He is always full of ludicrous hyperbole and tonight he spent the entire match fellating Zemora.

Suffering since 1978.

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Sunny Bournemouth Match Thread on 22:45 - Sep 14 with 1796 viewsBenny_the_Ball

Sunny Bournemouth Match Thread on 22:37 - Sep 14 by CliveWilsonSaid

Yeah that one on Kakay got me too. Ossie ran in to him on purpose bollox. As soon as they saw the replay they shut up immediately.


You should've gone to specsavers. Kakay was slow to react and then blocked Billing instead of playing the ball.

Supporting your team doesn't mean being biased on every single decision. Kakay was hauled off early in the second half and with good reason.
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Sunny Bournemouth Match Thread on 22:46 - Sep 14 with 1784 viewsCliveWilsonSaid

Sunny Bournemouth Match Thread on 22:41 - Sep 14 by Benny_the_Ball

It was violent conduct and you know it. The ref simply showed the same leniency he afforded Bournemouth all evening.


It was great match. Rather ruined for me by the commentators.

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Sunny Bournemouth Match Thread on 22:49 - Sep 14 with 1757 viewsBenny_the_Ball

Sunny Bournemouth Match Thread on 22:27 - Sep 14 by karl

He also called for Billing not to get a yellow for his knee up block on Kakay 1st half, claiming Ossie ran at him!
Definite deliberate block and yellow card.
Billing in another situation could have had a straight red for his shoulder in the back of Willock, reckless for sure with current knowledge of whiplash/head injuries.
I would say it wasn't a red but I've no doubt someone will see it for a similar challenge this season. He'd have definitely been sinbinned in the rugby!


Actually it was the other way around; Kakay blocked Billing.

However, Billing's challenge on Willock was cynical and deserved an 'orange' card. Never a red though according to the laws of the game, unlike Willock's kick-out.
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Sunny Bournemouth Match Thread on 22:55 - Sep 14 with 1707 viewsWhip_It

Great performance by Jordy this evening - think he has been outstanding all season.
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Sunny Bournemouth Match Thread on 23:00 - Sep 14 with 1668 viewsgazza1

Sunny Bournemouth Match Thread on 22:55 - Sep 14 by Whip_It

Great performance by Jordy this evening - think he has been outstanding all season.


yes, decent.....need to look again at their 2nd goal though.
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Sunny Bournemouth Match Thread on 23:01 - Sep 14 with 1665 viewsCliveWilsonSaid

Sunny Bournemouth Match Thread on 22:45 - Sep 14 by Benny_the_Ball

You should've gone to specsavers. Kakay was slow to react and then blocked Billing instead of playing the ball.

Supporting your team doesn't mean being biased on every single decision. Kakay was hauled off early in the second half and with good reason.


I think there were a couple of these. I remember the one that Kakay was short on. I think there was another that looked like a trip on him that was called by the commentry team as a barge, even before the replay was shown?

Maybe I'm wrong about that one but Kakay v Zemora and Anthony was only going to have one winner. In fact most criticism should go to Dickie and perhaps Dieng for our first half mistake. I'd rather focus on the positives of which there are so many.

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Sunny Bournemouth Match Thread on 23:02 - Sep 14 with 1658 viewskarl

Sunny Bournemouth Match Thread on 22:49 - Sep 14 by Benny_the_Ball

Actually it was the other way around; Kakay blocked Billing.

However, Billing's challenge on Willock was cynical and deserved an 'orange' card. Never a red though according to the laws of the game, unlike Willock's kick-out.


I'd like another look at the Kakay one, what I saw was that he played the ball and was going through the gap between 2 B'mouth players, Billing closed that gap and slightly raised his knee.
Kakay having played the ball had the right to go through that gap, Billing shouldn't block him by raising his knee as the ball was long gone. Definite yellow if I have remembered the situation correctly even if its deemed he moved towards Billing, the knee movement was crucial in this
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Sunny Bournemouth Match Thread on 23:02 - Sep 14 with 1658 viewsHooparoo

Bloody Cherries. Every time we got the ball there was a niggly foul yet their left back was on a yellow after 10 minutes but we didn’t target him by running at him. Naive.

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Sunny Bournemouth Match Thread on 23:06 - Sep 14 with 1612 viewsnix

Sunny Bournemouth Match Thread on 22:38 - Sep 14 by Benny_the_Ball

No disrespect but that's nonsense. Willock aggressively kicked out at their player and made contact with the kick. Whether he was provoked or hurt the other player in the process is irrelevant.

Warburton can complain about the number of fouls all he likes but if truth be told he needs to teach his players how to master the dark arts because occasionally refs are weak and your team has to be ready to take advantage. Bournemouth certainly did.


He kicked out because he'd been fouled, at times aggressively, all night. If he'd been protected earlier he would t have kicked out. I don't know why you'd say that's nonsense but it seems logical to me.

I agree we have to be more cute, in fact I said that earlier in this thread, but I also think refs should provide some degree of protection. That's one of the reasons we have yellow cards.
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Sunny Bournemouth Match Thread on 23:09 - Sep 14 with 1594 viewsMatch82

Sunny Bournemouth Match Thread on 21:59 - Sep 14 by Benny_the_Ball

Agreed but that comes from the manager. Bournemouth are actually a young team but Parker has clearly instilled a nasty side in his players. All about gauging the ref early doors. If he comes down hard early then tone it down. If he let's things go, ramp it up. I know some fans don't like it but street smarts is a vital ingredient to success.


We may not be at Preston, or apparently Bournemouth, levels yet, but I think we're much more adept at "street smarts" these days than we were a couple of years ago
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