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For those who think the rich should pay more tax 11:43 - Oct 9 with 4845 views

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cqlvggr9qz5o

The IFS said the Treasury needed to be aware that a small number of this super-rich group leaving the country would create a "relatively big hole in its finances”.

It's pretty obvious really.

For those who think the rich should pay more tax on 13:32 - Oct 13 with 891 views

controversial_jack

For those who think the rich should pay more tax on 13:28 - Oct 13 by Whiterockin

True you will always get others to fill the job, but if they were as good as the ones they would be replacing they would already have the job. Are suggesting that you don't care if the best move on, previously known as the brain drain, as long as it fits your thinking. There are probably several on here who are greatfull to a specialist who looked after them and are glad that they didn't have someone who just filled the gap.

There are only so many positions to fill. When first choice players retire or get transferred another player will take their places. Often they are as good and sometimes they aren't, that's just the market for you

For those who think the rich should pay more tax on 13:36 - Oct 13 with 878 views

Whiterockin

For those who think the rich should pay more tax on 13:32 - Oct 13 by controversial_jack
There are only so many positions to fill. When first choice players retire or get transferred another player will take their places. Often they are as good and sometimes they aren't, that's just the market for you

This isn't football don't be so ridiculous and try to live up to your username, clearly you have no understanding of how professionals at the top end work. Don't let jealousy eat you away.

For those who think the rich should pay more tax on 15:34 - Oct 13 with 791 views

SullutaCreturned

For those who think the rich should pay more tax on 09:48 - Oct 13 by Kilkennyjack

If you want good public services like schools, hospitals, police, army, social care, transport, and even your money grabbing royals then people need to willingly contribute their fair share.

No tax dodging loopholes, and the rich (over £100,000 ?) pay the share they can pay.

The easily led Brexit voting working class still dont realise that avoiding taxes for the rich was a huge part of the unsaid but obvious Brexit ambition.

Just think mun …. If you are a working class welsh person on here arguing not to tax the rich cos the rich might flee …. then the London media have done a job on you. Know your enemy. Its not other working class people that they tell you are work shy, its Mogg, Johnson, idiot Truss, and Farage. They know nothing of Wales and care even less.

Take the rich, get better public services.

And you clearly lack certain knowledge to make that tax claim. EU rules allowed corporations to avoid tax by using EU sanctioned tax havens like Luxembourg and the ROI.

The European commission wanted to change these rules but they had tremendous push back from members who kept vetoing the bill. It was being in the EU that helped tax avoidance.

Now I'll ask you to think, if you are rich and getting heavily taxed, what do you do, remain in situ and keep poaying OR move somewhere with a lower tax take?

Seriously, think...

investorschronicle.co.uk/content/c2a0a5ab-11a8-50a3-a098-240f320fc795

3saestate.com/marbella/wealthy-french-people-considers-exit-tax-pressure-getting-unsustainably-high/

france24.com/en/20150808-france-wealthy-flee-high-taxes-les-echos-figures

nomoretax.eu/france-wants-back-rich-people/

For those who think the rich should pay more tax on 15:43 - Oct 13 with 779 views

Dr_Winston

For those who think the rich should pay more tax on 15:34 - Oct 13 by SullutaCreturned

He doesn't understand. He is incapable of understanding.

Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair, or f*cking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back.

For those who think the rich should pay more tax on 21:49 - Oct 13 with 703 views

Kilkennyjack

For those who think the rich should pay more tax on 13:32 - Oct 13 by Joesus_Of_Narbereth

The stats are out there for everyone to read. The tax take in this country is at a record high. The reason this country is strapped for cash is because of the stupid decisions made by various governments of all persuasions during the last four decades or so.

We can keep taxing people til the pips squeak to King John levels but it will make absolutely no difference until governments stop spunking huge amounts of money away on stupid vanity projects, ideological nonsense and other pointless ventures.

Yes Brexit was predicted to be a huge disaster and it has been.

Pandemic contract awards are being looked into.

You are right, huge amounts of public wealth have been wasted (at best).

Beware of the Risen People

For those who think the rich should pay more tax on 21:52 - Oct 13 with 701 views

Kilkennyjack

For those who think the rich should pay more tax on 15:34 - Oct 13 by SullutaCreturned

You pay your taxes.

Greed is a terrible thing.
You only need so much money after all, after that its meaningless.

Beware of the Risen People

For those who think the rich should pay more tax on 21:53 - Oct 13 with 696 views

Kilkennyjack

For those who think the rich should pay more tax on 15:43 - Oct 13 by Dr_Winston
He doesn't understand. He is incapable of understanding.

The BBC have done a job on you.

Beware of the Risen People

For those who think the rich should pay more tax on 22:22 - Oct 13 with 677 views

controversial_jack

For those who think the rich should pay more tax on 13:36 - Oct 13 by Whiterockin
This isn't football don't be so ridiculous and try to live up to your username, clearly you have no understanding of how professionals at the top end work. Don't let jealousy eat you away.

It's an analogy. Companies i have worked for in the past have had managers and ceos retire or move on, guess what, someone else took their places and the companies didn't go bust. After a short while they weren't even mentioned again.See how it works?

For those who think the rich should pay more tax on 23:31 - Oct 13 with 659 views

JACKMANANDBOY

For those who think the rich should pay more tax on 15:34 - Oct 13 by SullutaCreturned

Time and time again this has proven to be the case, there is a sweet spot in any taxation system where the tax take is optimised.
If people don't understand that or can't be bothered to do the research then there's no point arguing with them.

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For those who think the rich should pay more tax on 06:09 - Oct 14 with 631 views

Whiterockin

For those who think the rich should pay more tax on 22:22 - Oct 13 by controversial_jack
It's an analogy. Companies i have worked for in the past have had managers and ceos retire or move on, guess what, someone else took their places and the companies didn't go bust. After a short while they weren't even mentioned again.See how it works?

I take it when you use the word they, that person was never you. I just wonder why, with all your worldly knowledge you never reached the top. But then again when you think about it, its obvious really.

For those who think the rich should pay more tax on 09:11 - Oct 14 with 580 views

controversial_jack

For those who think the rich should pay more tax on 06:09 - Oct 14 by Whiterockin
I take it when you use the word they, that person was never you. I just wonder why, with all your worldly knowledge you never reached the top. But then again when you think about it, its obvious really.

I never reached the top you are correct. Did you?

For those who think the rich should pay more tax on 09:52 - Oct 14 with 556 views

raynor94

For those who think the rich should pay more tax on 06:09 - Oct 14 by Whiterockin
I take it when you use the word they, that person was never you. I just wonder why, with all your worldly knowledge you never reached the top. But then again when you think about it, its obvious really.

Brilliant 🤣👍

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For those who think the rich should pay more tax on 10:56 - Oct 14 with 525 views

AnotherJohn

For those who think the rich should pay more tax on 06:09 - Oct 14 by Whiterockin
I take it when you use the word they, that person was never you. I just wonder why, with all your worldly knowledge you never reached the top. But then again when you think about it, its obvious really.

He has boasted in the past of his properties and his virtue as a responsible landlord. One could argue that he is right in line for a bit of extra tax, I have certainly been paying my share on money generated through work.

For those who think the rich should pay more tax on 16:25 - Oct 14 with 425 views

Kilkennyjack

For those who think the rich should pay more tax on 22:22 - Oct 13 by controversial_jack
It's an analogy. Companies i have worked for in the past have had managers and ceos retire or move on, guess what, someone else took their places and the companies didn't go bust. After a short while they weren't even mentioned again.See how it works?

Spot on

Beware of the Risen People

For those who think the rich should pay more tax on 16:32 - Oct 14 with 424 views

Kilkennyjack

For those who think the rich should pay more tax on 09:52 - Oct 14 by raynor94
Brilliant 🤣👍

Many of the richest are not the smartest.
Look at Trump and Elon.

Then look at Mandela, Dr King and Gandhi …. Generational leaders.
More locally Nye.

Dont confuse the size of a bank balance with the value of a person.

Beware of the Risen People

For those who think the rich should pay more tax on 16:36 - Oct 14 with 425 views

onehunglow

For those who think the rich should pay more tax on 16:32 - Oct 14 by Kilkennyjack
Many of the richest are not the smartest. Look at Trump and Elon. Then look at Mandela, Dr King and Gandhi …. Generational leaders. More locally Nye. Dont confuse the size of a bank balance with the value of a person.

And that is absolutely true so let’s have a little credit where credit is due and quit personal analyses
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For those who think the rich should pay more tax on 18:17 - Oct 14 with 389 views

Joesus_Of_Narbereth

For those who think the rich should pay more tax on 16:32 - Oct 14 by Kilkennyjack
Many of the richest are not the smartest. Look at Trump and Elon. Then look at Mandela, Dr King and Gandhi …. Generational leaders. More locally Nye. Dont confuse the size of a bank balance with the value of a person.

Depends what you class as “smart” though. Musk in some ways is borderline genius. What he lacks is real life experience and it shows.

Trump is sharp witted, he is savvy and is undoubtedly a performer but he doesn’t seem to have much knowledge about anything. Certainly wouldn’t describe him as stupid, more ignorant. He’d be a nightmare in a pub quiz.

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For those who think the rich should pay more tax on 18:20 - Oct 14 with 383 views

SullutaCreturned

For those who think the rich should pay more tax on 16:32 - Oct 14 by Kilkennyjack
Many of the richest are not the smartest. Look at Trump and Elon. Then look at Mandela, Dr King and Gandhi …. Generational leaders. More locally Nye. Dont confuse the size of a bank balance with the value of a person.

A post I totally agree with. Some of these rich people and many of these corporations are nothing but a parasite or parasites on worldwide society.

If they want to create more jobs then they need to turn the clock back to small local shops because supermarkets are fuelling unemployment now using technology.

That could have the welcome effect of cutting pollution and improving peoples health, if we went back over to buying fresh food without all that plastic, people walking a few hundred yards a few times a week instead of driving miles or having it delivered.

It's an idealogical fantasy of course, it'll never happen.

In the same way as a solar panel on every roof will never happen despite the obvious advantages because it would take money away from the rich.

Greed is indeed a bad thing. And so is hiking taxes beyond a point that rich people will willingly pay. They can afford to move to another country, can you?

For those who think the rich should pay more tax on 18:24 - Oct 14 with 382 views

Dr_Winston

For those who think the rich should pay more tax on 18:17 - Oct 14 by Joesus_Of_Narbereth
Depends what you class as “smart” though. Musk in some ways is borderline genius. What he lacks is real life experience and it shows. Trump is sharp witted, he is savvy and is undoubtedly a performer but he doesn’t seem to have much knowledge about anything. Certainly wouldn’t describe him as stupid, more ignorant. He’d be a nightmare in a pub quiz. [Post edited 14 Oct 18:17]

Musk is probably on the spectrum somewhere. There doesn't seem to be much of a filter between his brain and his mouth sometimes, a lack of awareness of the consequences of what he says.

As far as his "intelligence" goes, it's pretty laughable that people think you can achieve what he has achieved by being an idiot. What he does seem to be very good at is coming up with the concepts, and more importantly, hiring and working with the right people to make them a reality. He's a bit like Steve Jobs in that regard.

For example, what we saw yesterday with the booster being caught by the launching tower was by every report I've seen Musk's idea. It was impossible at the time he thought of it, but people working for him made it a reality.

Apparently there is a school of thought in lots of Silicone Valley companies that the best way to develop stuff is to just put it out there. You can learn a lot more from failures than endless checking and testing. It's one of the reasons why so many early SpaceX missions end in a big bang, but they're racing ahead of other companies in the same field. NASA have been left behind.

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Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair, or f*cking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back.

For those who think the rich should pay more tax on 10:51 - Oct 16 with 220 views

controversial_jack

For those who think the rich should pay more tax on 10:56 - Oct 14 by AnotherJohn
He has boasted in the past of his properties and his virtue as a responsible landlord. One could argue that he is right in line for a bit of extra tax, I have certainly been paying my share on money generated through work.

I have paid my share of tax, don't worry about that. 45 years of PAYE, I now self assess every year as i'm retired. I write some off on maintenance , insurance etc, which is all above board.

I don't know why you had this this little dig at me, but I hope it clears up any misunderstanding.

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