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Like I said this is a football forum , I'm sure there are other forums you can post your drivel or maybe give twitter a go?
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"drivel"
If you bothered to spend time reading and learning about the subject you would know everything I'm telling you is true. Every single word.
but no, yours is the the definition of weaponised ignorance.
Your spineless cowardly 'I'm alright jack" attitude is what makes this genocide tick along. but don't worry millions and millions of British working class people cannot be so easily swayed as you are.
If you bothered to spend time reading and learning about the subject you would know everything I'm telling you is true. Every single word.
but no, yours is the the definition of weaponised ignorance.
Your spineless cowardly 'I'm alright jack" attitude is what makes this genocide tick along. but don't worry millions and millions of British working class people cannot be so easily swayed as you are.
Internet - serious business by Northernr25 Aug 2023 11:09 I don't know where this post is going to go really, but I felt compelled to say something before I go properly off grid for a couple of days later on this morning.
I've been in Edinburgh this week with the day job - hectic 14-hour day sort of days. I'm now travelling for a couple of days through the Highlands which is something I've wanted to do for a while and, after the way last season went and how I felt at the end of it, have decided to do a little bit more of this season - huge thanks to the several of you who offered to help out with match reports and the like which has enabled me to do that, and good luck to Danny Paddox with his first swing at one of those tomorrow. Despite this, the history, referee, oppo interview, and preview have all been written and posted to time and to a reasonable standard (if not firing on all LFW cylinders) - written on trains, in the bag of cabs, in hotel rooms late at night, in press rooms when I'm meant to be doing day job…
On top of that we've had the Mason Greenwood thread, the India on the moon thread and the bloody Russian thread and all of the half baked conspiracy theory, frequently offensive stuff that's gone along with that. Monitoring these threads for legals, libels, threats against other posters, links, takes time, effort, judgement, consideration. None of which I've really had a lot of to give this week, but have nevertheless done anyway out of dedication to keeping the site going. Dedication that has now stretched across 20 years, and really only now continues because so many of you are so generous with your Patreon contributions. Without that I'd have walked away 18 months ago.
I'm constantly wrestling with a few things on this forum. I want to try to keep it open and flowing to all discussions and debates, I think it's a better board like that. There’s some seriously interesting non-football debate and discussion on here which is to all of your credit. I've heard the suggestions about separating it out into different topics, but I hate message boards that are run like that and don't want to do it. I'm also conscious that you need a range of viewpoints, and that just because I disagree with what you're saying personally doesn't mean I can delete the posts or direct the traffic towards my POV - I disagree with a great many of you on a great many things BTW, but it's not much of a message board if only what Clive thinks and feels is allowed. I'm also acutely aware of all the high and mighty "free speech" and "censorship" stuff that gets thrown around.
The Mason Greenwood thread is a prime example actually – some of the stuff on there I find absolutely abhorrent, and I cannot believe anybody listens to that recording and reaches that point of view, but reading between the lines there’s clearly some posters on that thread with close, personal experiences that are worth listening to and taking into account, so I’ve tried to keep that one ticking over and going however offensive some people may find some of the posts on it. But that takes time, and effort, and judgement, and consideration. There will be inconsistencies. I’ll get stuff wrong. But I try.
However... It’s a football message board. It’s not here for Hunter Biden’s fcking laptop conspiracy nutjobs, or Laurence Fox videos. You’ve got all manner of other places on the internet for that, I think the vast majority of people here don’t want to be subjected to it on a QPR site, and I am now at a point where I not only don’t want to read and moderate it but am also not willing to do so. I think in the interests of trying to maintain those points in that previous paragraph, and a chronic lack of self confidence, esteem and belief on my own part, I have allowed things to go on here that I don’t like, hate personally, and at times have made me feel like complete sht. If this season is going to be as long and hard as it looks, I’m not willing to trawl across the country covering a losing team, while at the same time logging onto my own message board and seeing topics, posts and poster names who make my heart sink and cause me aggro. I’ve got to look after myself better this season than I did last, or I’m going to end up exactly what my dad was – dead at 44. To that end, I have now deleted the Sakura account and will delete any of his future attempts to start other ones. I’m not being stalked and bullied on my own website and I'm not providing a platform for anonymous internet trolls. I get enough of it on social media where I can’t control it but here I can. If you’ve got a problem with this then please feel free to DM me or, as I said to him many times, remember there are several other QPR websites and message boards you can use if you don’t like this one and/or me.
I often get messages after this offering help with moderation. I don't want moderators. I don't want an overly moderated message board. What I want, and what I need, is for us all to remember, however passionate an argument or debate gets or however much you fundamentally hate or disagree with what people are saying, that this is a football and QPR message board and all of us on here (bar a couple of Brentford lurkers and Konk) are football and QPR fans in the end, and it's really not that serious. It's just football guys, that's all it is. However much I might wind you up, however often you disagree with me, however much I irritate you, I’m a QPR fan too, just trying to provide this site and service for you all to use and enjoy. Let’s just try and maintain that level of solidarity and respect for each other at all times.
Anyway, cheers for the support as always.
Its fine. I know I'm offending most of you home owning "aspirational" class people.
its wild too because so many of you will complain about "my freeze peach" being "stolen by dem woke" but you'll suddenly worry about moderators being overworked when its convenient for you to stope someone saying something truthful.
the open genocide of Palestine and indigenous semitic people, streamed online for everyone to see will end Britain. We won't recover from this. Mark my words.
This is not the place for Politics, (particularly divisive stuff like Trump, Israel/Palestine, Brexit), Covid, Religion etc We're all going to Hell in a handcart anyway (or not, if you're an atheist) so it's football and any other light hearted shite you can think of. Norf don't need this pressure on.
The Knight's Templar did a mean breakfast when I worked in Fleet Street (the spoons pub not the order, though my building was built on their former stable or forge). The secret of Spoons breakfast (the bar manager told me) is some like them have a kitchen and cook the food others like 'Pendrel's Oak' don't and basically heat frozen food.
Closed now sadly, I think another chain bought it.
Beer and Beef has made us what we are - The Prince Regent
Crank? which bit is false? Anything to avoid the subject.
The whole thing can be seen. dead kids after dead kids with "Israeli"politicians telling you they are going to kill everyone
and yes, the killing I see makes me cry my eyes out. I can't sleep, can't think straight because this whole thing is faking devastating.
I have never seen anything so revolting in my life. It'shameful that this is a big drag for you that you're put out because you have to read about it.
I think we should start a worse Wetherspoon thread rather go political. There was one in Tilbury ‘The Anchor’ they couldn’t manage it because the local travelling community was fighting with the locals, it got named The Flying Bottle. Neighbours eh?
This is not the place for Politics, (particularly divisive stuff like Trump, Israel/Palestine, Brexit), Covid, Religion etc We're all going to Hell in a handcart anyway (or not, if you're an atheist) so it's football and any other light hearted shite you can think of. Norf don't need this pressure on.
Beautiful,Gary. You in the Slough ‘spoons for 9:00? I wont get the ache if you can’t make it.
I think we should start a worse Wetherspoon thread rather go political. There was one in Tilbury ‘The Anchor’ they couldn’t manage it because the local travelling community was fighting with the locals, it got named The Flying Bottle. Neighbours eh?
There is a social media trend of counting how many chips come with your Weatherspoons meal.
It’s mostly pisstaking now with some funny photoshopped contributions but it started as a legitimate campaign.
So much snobbery regarding Wetherspoons on this thread and amongst the Liberal types in this country. They're absolutely fantastic, and dare I say it essential to the lonely and elderly, somewhere they can meet and have a beer or a refill coffee, and keep warm.
In fact it's probably cheaper to sit in one for a few hours than keep their home warm in this bastard of a country which seems to be full of selfish cnts
I think we should start a worse Wetherspoon thread rather go political. There was one in Tilbury ‘The Anchor’ they couldn’t manage it because the local travelling community was fighting with the locals, it got named The Flying Bottle. Neighbours eh?
Do you mind? My wife’s from Tilbury. That is some place. The spoons there must have been properly bonkers. Last time I was there, not too long ago, they still had a video rental shop -for your eyes only. I’m not joking.
It's stunning that you reply with that. however, I guess it's not surprising. Us British are the most brainwashed on the planet.
Are you referring to the genocide that Israel is waging on Gaza that the UK is funding right now?. the genocide of the 2.4 million defenceless semites in the Gaza Strip with a minimum of 25 thousand Palestinians have been killed in 11 weeks including ten thousand children, 150 un workers and around 250 journalists... This 25 thousand is the least amount, it could well be 45 or 50 thousand or any number as so many kids are buried under the rubble.. I've never seen so many dead children in my life.
The illegal occupation that the UK andforced on indigenous Palestine after it colonised Palestine in 1917?
Every single claim I've made I can demonstrate to be true. The Israel army themselves openly admit what they're doing posting videos all over the internet talking about how they kill children.
It is with the most stunning ignorance that any Englishman believes the narrative that we are told. If you ever wanted proof of our brainwashing,
In fact, this message board demonstrates it beyond any doubt - the Russia/Ukraine war got a thread of like 24 pages. This "self defence" war of "Israel" hasn't had a single post and in fact, the people who show you what's happening are themselves called genociders! ffs Ipswich player was suspended from playing just for mentioning it, Celtic fans are removed from their own ground for waving the Palestinian flag! with the "free speech"mob perfectly happy about that! its disgusting!
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All while Hamas are having tea parties. I don't really want to read about your rants on a football forum from the confines of your bedroom about a place you have more than likely never been to.
Did anyone go in the old Hammersmith Market one when they had a disco? (they may still do(
We went in there once for a beer for bus. F'k me I'm used to standing by loud amps but that was the volume at the bar I wish I'd learned sign language.
Or was it a JJ Moons? I've just suddenly thought spoons and music. Unless they were after the Palais crowd.
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Beer and Beef has made us what we are - The Prince Regent
Did anyone go in the old Hammersmith Market one when they had a disco? (they may still do(
We went in there once for a beer for bus. F'k me I'm used to standing by loud amps but that was the volume at the bar I wish I'd learned sign language.
Or was it a JJ Moons? I've just suddenly thought spoons and music. Unless they were after the Palais crowd.
[Post edited 30 Dec 2023 21:17]
I thought music and TV were banned in Spoons. The earlier post about it being a Godsend to people is true, I find. The William Morris in Hammersmith is crowded in the day by folk who probably aren't pubgoers and usually just have lemonade to drink, but it's cheaper to eat there than cook at home and have the heating on.
In the People's Game Sir Bobby Moore is The Knight of all Knights. In the establishments game he's only an OBE and Jimmy fcuking saville is a knight. His knighthood means the square root of fcuk all because Knights like Pundits are chosen by the establishment and they'll choose saville over Sir Bobby Moore
All while Hamas are having tea parties. I don't really want to read about your rants on a football forum from the confines of your bedroom about a place you have more than likely never been to.
Ah. "But hamas" the classic brain dead response from the Liberal who believes history began on 7th October.
You know...an awful lot that the bbc, sky news, cnn keeps repeating has been shown to be a lie? Do you know how many "israeli " settlers testimony of being killed by the idfby the IOF mysteriously isn't reported? Why is it that houses that were burnt in the exact same way as Palestinians were burnt isn't mentioned? Hamas don't have weapons that can do the damage that the settlers army is claiming?
And what of hamas and other Palestinian resistance? Why do they exist? Is ot because they're just "terrorists"? Big scary evil arabs whom are uncivilised and need to be tamed by the Liberal "democratic " order? Or is it because the well documenteded colonialism project of "israel" is a barbaric monster child of the British ruling class?
Unambiguously, "israel" is an illegal settler colony (as defined under international law) That is committing genocide.
The whole world is watching. Defenders of settler colonialism and the torture, killing and destruction of indigenous semitic people cannot gaslight all of is with "but hamas"
Put simply, the evidence us on my side. What om telling you is true.
I thought music and TV were banned in Spoons. The earlier post about it being a Godsend to people is true, I find. The William Morris in Hammersmith is crowded in the day by folk who probably aren't pubgoers and usually just have lemonade to drink, but it's cheaper to eat there than cook at home and have the heating on.
It was my bad recollection I don't think it was ever a spoons.
Bloody loud anyway.
Beer and Beef has made us what we are - The Prince Regent
It's stunning that you reply with that. however, I guess it's not surprising. Us British are the most brainwashed on the planet.
Are you referring to the genocide that Israel is waging on Gaza that the UK is funding right now?. the genocide of the 2.4 million defenceless semites in the Gaza Strip with a minimum of 25 thousand Palestinians have been killed in 11 weeks including ten thousand children, 150 un workers and around 250 journalists... This 25 thousand is the least amount, it could well be 45 or 50 thousand or any number as so many kids are buried under the rubble.. I've never seen so many dead children in my life.
The illegal occupation that the UK andforced on indigenous Palestine after it colonised Palestine in 1917?
Every single claim I've made I can demonstrate to be true. The Israel army themselves openly admit what they're doing posting videos all over the internet talking about how they kill children.
It is with the most stunning ignorance that any Englishman believes the narrative that we are told. If you ever wanted proof of our brainwashing,
In fact, this message board demonstrates it beyond any doubt - the Russia/Ukraine war got a thread of like 24 pages. This "self defence" war of "Israel" hasn't had a single post and in fact, the people who show you what's happening are themselves called genociders! ffs Ipswich player was suspended from playing just for mentioning it, Celtic fans are removed from their own ground for waving the Palestinian flag! with the "free speech"mob perfectly happy about that! its disgusting!
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Interested to see you 'demonstrate' your claim that Britain 'illegally colonised' Palestine in 1917, a full year before WWI ended and whilst we were still fighting the Ottoman Turks there.
Do you mind? My wife’s from Tilbury. That is some place. The spoons there must have been properly bonkers. Last time I was there, not too long ago, they still had a video rental shop -for your eyes only. I’m not joking.
I was playing at Tilbury Town one evening , I stopped at an off licence to ask directions . All the booze was behind iron grilles and the two women in there had 5 o clock shadows. It wasnt too long ago that some of the docker clubs had a boxing ring to sort out differences of opinion .
I was playing at Tilbury Town one evening , I stopped at an off licence to ask directions . All the booze was behind iron grilles and the two women in there had 5 o clock shadows. It wasnt too long ago that some of the docker clubs had a boxing ring to sort out differences of opinion .
Ever hear of, come across, know a Barney, from South Ockendon / South Stifford?