| Drakeford on 18:20 - Jan 11 with 1318 views | raynor94 |
| Drakeford on 15:27 - Jan 11 by BryanSwan |
In its remit being the important part, the Senedd is not fully autonomous and has to work within UK parameters. I agree that they have made mistakes, but it is hard to know whether the budget they recieve is sufficient in the upkeep of public services or the improvement of them. |
£18 billion a year, a record! Plus he has tax raising capability.
Health is devolved, the ball is in his court |  |
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| Drakeford on 18:46 - Jan 11 with 1286 views | CountyJim |
Wales is 3 billion light on NHS funds fact |  | | |
| Drakeford on 18:49 - Jan 11 with 1284 views | raynor94 |
| Drakeford on 18:46 - Jan 11 by CountyJim |
Wales is 3 billion light on NHS funds fact |
Please put your factual evidence on here | |
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| Drakeford on 19:12 - Jan 11 with 1274 views | Boundy |
This taken from the Nuffield report, sponsored by the BBC
https://www.nuffieldtrust.org.uk/news-item/how-well-is-the-nhs-in-wales-performi
While it has made progress since devolution, Wales currently has a higher rate of treatable mortality than England or Northern Ireland, and around the same as Scotland. Improvements have stalled in all four countries in recent years, but this slowdown seemed to happen earlier in Wales and there has been little progress for the last decade Because it largely rolls over historic spending, it can create fairly arbitrary outcomes, and in 2016 adjustments were made over a fear that Wales was missing out. Wales gets far more funding per person than England — around 15% more, or £1,325 per person more in 2019/20 — but less than Scotland or Northern Ireland.
Wales actually spent around 5% more than England in the year immediately before Covid-19. This smaller difference is because the Welsh government has prioritised health care slightly less aggressively and spends more on other services — including social care, where spending is 30% higher than in England. |  |
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| Drakeford on 21:47 - Jan 11 with 1226 views | majorraglan |
| Drakeford on 18:20 - Jan 11 by raynor94 |
£18 billion a year, a record! Plus he has tax raising capability.
Health is devolved, the ball is in his court |
It may be a record, but some o& that funding is on account of Covid, it’s certainly not a “business as usual” figure. | | | |
| Drakeford on 21:53 - Jan 11 with 1222 views | majorraglan |
| Drakeford on 19:12 - Jan 11 by Boundy |
This taken from the Nuffield report, sponsored by the BBC
https://www.nuffieldtrust.org.uk/news-item/how-well-is-the-nhs-in-wales-performi
While it has made progress since devolution, Wales currently has a higher rate of treatable mortality than England or Northern Ireland, and around the same as Scotland. Improvements have stalled in all four countries in recent years, but this slowdown seemed to happen earlier in Wales and there has been little progress for the last decade Because it largely rolls over historic spending, it can create fairly arbitrary outcomes, and in 2016 adjustments were made over a fear that Wales was missing out. Wales gets far more funding per person than England — around 15% more, or £1,325 per person more in 2019/20 — but less than Scotland or Northern Ireland.
Wales actually spent around 5% more than England in the year immediately before Covid-19. This smaller difference is because the Welsh government has prioritised health care slightly less aggressively and spends more on other services — including social care, where spending is 30% higher than in England. |
Wales has much higher number of older people who cost more to care for, a number which is continuing to increase as more people cross the border and retire to Wales. We also hav3 a lot more poverty, social deprivation and a large geographical area. Pretty big challenges.
That said, Drakers et al need to pull their fingers out. Things like the 20mph speed limit, more AM’s and the lack of a relief road in Newport need sorting. | | | |
| Drakeford on 21:56 - Jan 11 with 1218 views | BryanSwan |
| Drakeford on 18:20 - Jan 11 by raynor94 |
£18 billion a year, a record! Plus he has tax raising capability.
Health is devolved, the ball is in his court |
But what if the "record" has not even kept up with inflation, it is then a relative cut.
The Welsh NHS has additional pressure to most of England due to our population demographics, which means it would comparatively need more funding. Which other public service would be cut to fund it?
I'm not denying that they do a poor job of it, but there are massive issues outside of that too. | |
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| Drakeford on 21:57 - Jan 11 with 1216 views | builthjack |
| Drakeford on 21:53 - Jan 11 by majorraglan |
Wales has much higher number of older people who cost more to care for, a number which is continuing to increase as more people cross the border and retire to Wales. We also hav3 a lot more poverty, social deprivation and a large geographical area. Pretty big challenges.
That said, Drakers et al need to pull their fingers out. Things like the 20mph speed limit, more AM’s and the lack of a relief road in Newport need sorting. |
A serious amount of older people have moved from Southern England to this area.
They sell up for big money, and live like kings and queens here. You can’t blame them.
But it has put huge strains on the NHS. |  |
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| Drakeford on 22:04 - Jan 11 with 1213 views | raynor94 |
| Drakeford on 21:56 - Jan 11 by BryanSwan |
But what if the "record" has not even kept up with inflation, it is then a relative cut.
The Welsh NHS has additional pressure to most of England due to our population demographics, which means it would comparatively need more funding. Which other public service would be cut to fund it?
I'm not denying that they do a poor job of it, but there are massive issues outside of that too. |
We get more per head than England, health is devolved, Labour have always been in charge, he could raise taxes. | |
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| Drakeford on 00:26 - Jan 12 with 1169 views | controversial_jack |
| Drakeford on 22:04 - Jan 11 by raynor94 |
We get more per head than England, health is devolved, Labour have always been in charge, he could raise taxes. |
They would be criticised if they did that. | | | |
| Drakeford on 11:21 - Jan 12 with 1120 views | JACKMANANDBOY |
| Drakeford on 00:26 - Jan 12 by controversial_jack |
They would be criticised if they did that. |
About 80 percent of taxpayers are basic rate in Wales, we need a better economy. |  |
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| Drakeford on 11:30 - Jan 12 with 1111 views | Scotia |
| Drakeford on 22:04 - Jan 11 by raynor94 |
We get more per head than England, health is devolved, Labour have always been in charge, he could raise taxes. |
He could also start charging for prescriptions and reduce free school meals. I don't need either and neither should anyone in full time emplyment. | | | |
| Drakeford on 11:42 - Jan 12 with 1108 views | raynor94 |
| Drakeford on 11:30 - Jan 12 by Scotia |
He could also start charging for prescriptions and reduce free school meals. I don't need either and neither should anyone in full time emplyment. |
Couldn't agree more, both should be means tested | |
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| Drakeford on 11:45 - Jan 12 with 1107 views | JACKMANANDBOY |
| Drakeford on 11:30 - Jan 12 by Scotia |
He could also start charging for prescriptions and reduce free school meals. I don't need either and neither should anyone in full time emplyment. |
Can anyone explain why those on the top rate of tax are given free prescriptions in Wales? | |
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| Drakeford on 12:11 - Jan 12 with 1092 views | Boundy |
| Drakeford on 11:45 - Jan 12 by JACKMANANDBOY |
Can anyone explain why those on the top rate of tax are given free prescriptions in Wales? |
it does seem to be at odds with a socialist philosophy | |
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| Drakeford on 12:19 - Jan 12 with 1084 views | Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
| Drakeford on 00:26 - Jan 12 by controversial_jack |
They would be criticised if they did that. |
But they’d still be voted in because they are labour and this is wales. |  |
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| Drakeford on 12:25 - Jan 12 with 1081 views | krunchykarrot |
| Drakeford on 21:57 - Jan 11 by builthjack |
A serious amount of older people have moved from Southern England to this area.
They sell up for big money, and live like kings and queens here. You can’t blame them.
But it has put huge strains on the NHS. |
Just a thought is there any stats to show how many people use the NHS without a NI number. Years ago it was a big issue in the home counties where people would fly in pregnant to have their babies delivered. Also i know that people would fly in relatives for treatment free because there were no checks. |  | | |
| Drakeford on 12:49 - Jan 12 with 1062 views | majorraglan |
| Drakeford on 11:45 - Jan 12 by JACKMANANDBOY |
Can anyone explain why those on the top rate of tax are given free prescriptions in Wales? |
For the same reason everyone (including millionaires) are getting the payment support re energy bills, the systems aren’t in place to distinguish between individuals and it’s too expensive to review and change. | | | |
| Drakeford on 14:28 - Jan 12 with 1007 views | controversial_jack |
| Drakeford on 12:19 - Jan 12 by Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
But they’d still be voted in because they are labour and this is wales. |
Rightly so too, as there is no credible alternative | | | |
| Drakeford on 14:33 - Jan 12 with 1000 views | Scotia |
| Drakeford on 14:28 - Jan 12 by controversial_jack |
Rightly so too, as there is no credible alternative |
You're correct. And that is where the problem lies. | | | |
| Drakeford on 14:39 - Jan 12 with 996 views | Scotia |
| Drakeford on 12:25 - Jan 12 by krunchykarrot |
Just a thought is there any stats to show how many people use the NHS without a NI number. Years ago it was a big issue in the home counties where people would fly in pregnant to have their babies delivered. Also i know that people would fly in relatives for treatment free because there were no checks. |
When my daughter was born, in the cubicle next door were a group of Romainians,3 women, one was having a baby and the other two seemed to be her sister and their mother.
When it was time to be discharged the new born baby needed to have a TB vaccine as they were going back to Romania the next day.
Now I know people flying to Turkey and Lithuania for various treatments because the waiting list is too long on th NHS.
How times have changed. | | | |
| Drakeford on 16:02 - Jan 12 with 961 views | controversial_jack |
The people of this country deserve to be punished for consistently voting Conservative, unfortunately, it will drag us all down too | | | |
| Drakeford on 16:18 - Jan 12 with 952 views | raynor94 |
| Drakeford on 16:02 - Jan 12 by controversial_jack |
The people of this country deserve to be punished for consistently voting Conservative, unfortunately, it will drag us all down too |
What was the alternative, Milliband and Corbyn.
Blame the Union barons for electing the wrong Milliband | |
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| Drakeford on 16:22 - Jan 12 with 948 views | Boundy |
| Drakeford on 16:02 - Jan 12 by controversial_jack |
The people of this country deserve to be punished for consistently voting Conservative, unfortunately, it will drag us all down too |
and yet what was Blair/Browns legacy , both with their policies made things better for a lot of people but that didn't last and because of that & the Iraq war and other poor judgement calls such as both failing to completely reverse two decades of Thatcherism they lost the 2010 election .So the cycle of UK ploitics contuines ,3 terms labour had in power and still messed it up and now we have the same with the torys | |
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| Drakeford on 16:46 - Jan 12 with 939 views | SullutaCreturned |
| Drakeford on 22:04 - Jan 11 by raynor94 |
We get more per head than England, health is devolved, Labour have always been in charge, he could raise taxes. |
I think it's a combination of the Barnett formula not being fit for the purpose and Wales being badly run.
Drakeford is out of date, out of touch and ideologically driven to do things it seems a lot of people do not want in Wales. Whethe tha majority do not want them or nt, it's impossible to say and they never release the full consultation data,are they hiding something/ | | | |
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