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Swansea City v Blackburn Rovers : Matchday Thread 22/23 11:38 - Aug 1 with 30452 viewsNotLoyal

It’s the first home game of the EFL season for Swansea City, the next home game will be the second and so on. It was the same last season as well, and it didn’t even get a mention, so this time around let’s pause for a second and have some consideration for consecutive numbering. For counting purposes it’s unrivalled. Oh and by the way, don’t steal my info like you do stories ya belting prunes.





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Swansea City: Andy Fisher; Nathan Wood, Kyle Naughton, Harry Darling; Joel Latibeaudiere, Jay Fulton, Matt Grimes (captain), Ryan Manning; Joel Piroe, Olivier Ntcham, Michael Obafemi.

Substitutes: Steven Benda, Ben Cabango, Jamie Paterson, Matty Sorinola, Ollie Cooper, Cameron Congreve, Liam Cullen.

Blackburn Rovers: Thomas Kaminski, Callum Brittain, Harry Pickering, Daniel Ayala, Sammie Szmodics, Sam Gallagher, Scott Wharton, Ryan Hedges, John Buckley, Ben Brereton Diaz, Lewis Travis (captain).

Substitutes: Aynsley Pears, Tayo Edun, Bradley Dack, Tyler Morton, Jack Vale, Ash Phillips, Tyrhys Dolan.

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Swansea City v Blackburn Rovers : Matchday Thread : SATURDAY ! on 08:17 - Aug 7 with 1685 viewsvetchonian

Swansea City v Blackburn Rovers : Matchday Thread : SATURDAY ! on 08:05 - Aug 7 by Fireboy2

Great post mate.

All great points especially no 4, it boils my p!ss when you see piroe or oba making runs into clear areas to then the player with the ball just turn and pass it either sideways or back, we need to take chances not worry about keeping the ball as its obviously not working.


many of us feel the same the question is if you and many many more of us can see it why cant Martin

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Swansea City v Blackburn Rovers : Matchday Thread : SATURDAY ! on 08:21 - Aug 7 with 1665 viewsSTID2017

Swansea City v Blackburn Rovers : Matchday Thread : SATURDAY ! on 08:17 - Aug 7 by vetchonian

many of us feel the same the question is if you and many many more of us can see it why cant Martin


He has painted himself into a corner.
Only way out is to pull it all apart and start again and he won't do it.

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Swansea City v Blackburn Rovers : Matchday Thread : SATURDAY ! on 08:30 - Aug 7 with 1633 viewsDr_Parnassus

Swansea City v Blackburn Rovers : Matchday Thread : SATURDAY ! on 08:21 - Aug 7 by STID2017

He has painted himself into a corner.
Only way out is to pull it all apart and start again and he won't do it.


Why can’t he continue the process?

Don’t tell me you are back off the Martin wagon again?

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Swansea City v Blackburn Rovers : Matchday Thread : SATURDAY ! on 08:40 - Aug 7 with 1628 viewsvetchonian

Swansea City v Blackburn Rovers : Matchday Thread : SATURDAY ! on 08:30 - Aug 7 by Dr_Parnassus

Why can’t he continue the process?

Don’t tell me you are back off the Martin wagon again?


depends which thread you read he has one foot on one foot off

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Swansea City v Blackburn Rovers : Matchday Thread : SATURDAY ! on 08:43 - Aug 7 with 1622 viewsSTID2017

Swansea City v Blackburn Rovers : Matchday Thread : SATURDAY ! on 08:30 - Aug 7 by Dr_Parnassus

Why can’t he continue the process?

Don’t tell me you are back off the Martin wagon again?


Change the record.
You and me are poles apart geographically and in football views.
You decided August last year that this guy was not for you.
I ( like many ) try to enjoy each game and of course at the start of a new season am optimistic about our future ( life has thrown me too many curve balls to be constantly critical like you and OHl ).
Yesterday was an awful performance for which the manager and team must all take responsibility.
I would love to see RM turn it around.
Not sure he can

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Swansea City v Blackburn Rovers : Matchday Thread : SATURDAY ! on 08:47 - Aug 7 with 1588 viewsDr_Parnassus

Swansea City v Blackburn Rovers : Matchday Thread : SATURDAY ! on 08:43 - Aug 7 by STID2017

Change the record.
You and me are poles apart geographically and in football views.
You decided August last year that this guy was not for you.
I ( like many ) try to enjoy each game and of course at the start of a new season am optimistic about our future ( life has thrown me too many curve balls to be constantly critical like you and OHl ).
Yesterday was an awful performance for which the manager and team must all take responsibility.
I would love to see RM turn it around.
Not sure he can


August? Do you have any examples of that or did you make it up?

I noted some flaws in his game plan and tactical approach if that’s what you mean? But very much hoped he would turn it around and learn. I advocated for him for months until it was clear his ego was out of control and knowledge of the game extremely limited.

I maintained that position until around Feb time where I could see there was no hope there and then advocated for change with you telling me I was wrong and being negative.

You now finally agree with me.

You got there in the end.

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Swansea City v Blackburn Rovers : Matchday Thread : SATURDAY ! on 08:48 - Aug 7 with 1594 viewsvetchonian

Swansea City v Blackburn Rovers : Matchday Thread : SATURDAY ! on 08:43 - Aug 7 by STID2017

Change the record.
You and me are poles apart geographically and in football views.
You decided August last year that this guy was not for you.
I ( like many ) try to enjoy each game and of course at the start of a new season am optimistic about our future ( life has thrown me too many curve balls to be constantly critical like you and OHl ).
Yesterday was an awful performance for which the manager and team must all take responsibility.
I would love to see RM turn it around.
Not sure he can


the data says he cant and wont...we all hope he can turn it around but it's not going to happen...some of us saw through him early and are pilloried for it

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Swansea City v Blackburn Rovers : Matchday Thread : SATURDAY ! on 08:57 - Aug 7 with 1567 viewsonehunglow

Swansea City v Blackburn Rovers : Matchday Thread : SATURDAY ! on 22:33 - Aug 6 by Dr_Parnassus

You did read that common sense (and obvious) suggestion, yes.

Piroe is leaving anyway, he hates Martin.

Do it now and get someone competent in before we are “rebuilding” in League 1.

……..

Edit - just read this part.

“Sell Piroe and spunk all the money on sacking RM and his staff”

How much do you think we are paying them STID?

No, invest a small fraction of it wisely in getting rid of this idiotic manager and his band of merry enablers. If it costs us £3m of the £15m potential income, it’s money well spent.
[Post edited 6 Aug 2022 22:39]


Absolutely sell Piroe.We could have Salah at our club and Martin would kill him.
Piroe has been torn apart and his great work last year destroyed by Martin's boys ,like Grimes ,Naughton,Fisher.Yep,Naughton the great. A player who WALKS through games and passes backwards in extra time when we are looking for a wnner.

It is EsSENTIAL martin goes and right now as we can reset .

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Swansea City v Blackburn Rovers : Matchday Thread : SATURDAY ! on 09:19 - Aug 7 with 1531 viewscadleigh

“I say to you, that likewise joy shall be in heaven over one sinner that repents, more than over ninety and nine just persons, which need no repentance.” (Luke 15:7)

Can we get back to the football and stop competing over who saw the flaws in Martin first?

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Swansea City v Blackburn Rovers : Matchday Thread : SATURDAY ! on 09:35 - Aug 7 with 1501 viewsvetchonian

Swansea City v Blackburn Rovers : Matchday Thread : SATURDAY ! on 09:19 - Aug 7 by cadleigh

“I say to you, that likewise joy shall be in heaven over one sinner that repents, more than over ninety and nine just persons, which need no repentance.” (Luke 15:7)

Can we get back to the football and stop competing over who saw the flaws in Martin first?


spot on post
that's the problem on here debate on football is clouded by the division in our fans

we will never always share the same views on players managers etc but the one thing that should unite us is our love for the Swans which is questioned by some of others.
we are now in difficult times as I believe we will continue to flounder as managers have worked us out and our manager refuses to change.....there is an adage change the person or change the person.....if that person isn't going to change then maybe we have to bite the bullet and change him

the debates should he based on football not personal agenda

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Swansea City v Blackburn Rovers : Matchday Thread : SATURDAY ! on 09:46 - Aug 7 with 1486 viewsFireboy2

Swansea City v Blackburn Rovers : Matchday Thread : SATURDAY ! on 08:17 - Aug 7 by vetchonian

many of us feel the same the question is if you and many many more of us can see it why cant Martin


Because he's obviously stubborn.

I and alot of others (who don't post on here) have given him plenty of time but now its wearing thin.

I did say that I would give him until at least the wc but unless he starts to get it right he will lose my support sooner.
[Post edited 7 Aug 2022 9:48]
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Swansea City v Blackburn Rovers : Matchday Thread : SATURDAY ! (n/t) on 09:48 - Aug 7 with 1482 viewsvetchonian

Swansea City v Blackburn Rovers : Matchday Thread : SATURDAY ! on 09:46 - Aug 7 by Fireboy2

Because he's obviously stubborn.

I and alot of others (who don't post on here) have given him plenty of time but now its wearing thin.

I did say that I would give him until at least the wc but unless he starts to get it right he will lose my support sooner.
[Post edited 7 Aug 2022 9:48]



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Swansea City v Blackburn Rovers : Matchday Thread : SATURDAY ! on 09:46 - Aug 7 by Fireboy2

Because he's obviously stubborn.

I and alot of others (who don't post on here) have given him plenty of time but now its wearing thin.

I did say that I would give him until at least the wc but unless he starts to get it right he will lose my support sooner.
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Swansea City v Blackburn Rovers : Matchday Thread : SATURDAY ! on 09:46 - Aug 7 by Fireboy2

Because he's obviously stubborn.

I and alot of others (who don't post on here) have given him plenty of time but now its wearing thin.

I did say that I would give him until at least the wc but unless he starts to get it right he will lose my support sooner.
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Swansea City v Blackburn Rovers : Matchday Thread : SATURDAY ! on 09:59 - Aug 7 with 1466 viewsBryanSwan

Swansea City v Blackburn Rovers : Matchday Thread : SATURDAY ! on 08:57 - Aug 7 by onehunglow

Absolutely sell Piroe.We could have Salah at our club and Martin would kill him.
Piroe has been torn apart and his great work last year destroyed by Martin's boys ,like Grimes ,Naughton,Fisher.Yep,Naughton the great. A player who WALKS through games and passes backwards in extra time when we are looking for a wnner.

It is EsSENTIAL martin goes and right now as we can reset .


It is a bit harsh to blame Naughton for having to play backwards. Numerous times he was given the ball only for eveyone in front of him to become statues.
The same thing happened over snd over again to both him and Darling, it must've been infuriating.

You can see we still have a pretty good group of players and some of the play during our 10 minute purple patch was fantastic.

The next 2 games will decide it for me, if we are just as bereft of ideas, impetus snd movement. I think it will be time to move on.

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Swansea City v Blackburn Rovers : Matchday Thread : SATURDAY ! on 10:21 - Aug 7 with 1426 viewsonehunglow

Swansea City v Blackburn Rovers : Matchday Thread : SATURDAY ! on 09:59 - Aug 7 by BryanSwan

It is a bit harsh to blame Naughton for having to play backwards. Numerous times he was given the ball only for eveyone in front of him to become statues.
The same thing happened over snd over again to both him and Darling, it must've been infuriating.

You can see we still have a pretty good group of players and some of the play during our 10 minute purple patch was fantastic.

The next 2 games will decide it for me, if we are just as bereft of ideas, impetus snd movement. I think it will be time to move on.


Harsh.
How
He is selected because of how he plays.
He now has no pace so he can only play as a “sweeper”. He ain’t one .

He s getting good money though

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Swansea City v Blackburn Rovers : Matchday Thread : SATURDAY ! on 10:41 - Aug 7 with 1402 viewsBryanSwan

Swansea City v Blackburn Rovers : Matchday Thread : SATURDAY ! on 10:21 - Aug 7 by onehunglow

Harsh.
How
He is selected because of how he plays.
He now has no pace so he can only play as a “sweeper”. He ain’t one .

He s getting good money though


I explained why i thought the excessive criticism was harsh. He constantly got given the ball only for nobody in fromt of him to show for it or move into space. The same as Darling.
Did he play well, no. But he was nowhere near the worst out there.

If our form continues and Martin goes I would expect a new manager would find Naughton equally as important to the side.

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Swansea City v Blackburn Rovers : Matchday Thread : SATURDAY ! on 10:42 - Aug 7 with 1391 viewsonehunglow

Swansea City v Blackburn Rovers : Matchday Thread : SATURDAY ! on 10:41 - Aug 7 by BryanSwan

I explained why i thought the excessive criticism was harsh. He constantly got given the ball only for nobody in fromt of him to show for it or move into space. The same as Darling.
Did he play well, no. But he was nowhere near the worst out there.

If our form continues and Martin goes I would expect a new manager would find Naughton equally as important to the side.


WellI would disagree Bryan. He and Grimes might be the first to be benched or binned as they are so static.

Grimes is captain. Think on that

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Swansea City v Blackburn Rovers : Matchday Thread : SATURDAY ! on 11:59 - Aug 7 with 1258 viewsKeithHaynes

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Swansea City v Blackburn Rovers : Matchday Thread : SATURDAY ! on 12:08 - Aug 7 with 1244 viewsLuther27

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A new manager maybe?
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Swansea City v Blackburn Rovers : Matchday Thread : SATURDAY ! on 12:59 - Aug 7 with 1168 viewsonehunglow

Swansea City v Blackburn Rovers : Matchday Thread : SATURDAY ! on 12:08 - Aug 7 by Luther27

A new manager maybe?


Ideally new owners and a chairman with some nouse.

It really depends how much humiliation we are prepared to take.

Yesterday 400 Blackburn fans silencing a whole stadium.

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Swansea City v Blackburn Rovers : Matchday Thread : SATURDAY ! on 13:30 - Aug 7 with 1143 viewsraynor94

Swansea City v Blackburn Rovers : Matchday Thread : SATURDAY ! on 09:46 - Aug 7 by Fireboy2

Because he's obviously stubborn.

I and alot of others (who don't post on here) have given him plenty of time but now its wearing thin.

I did say that I would give him until at least the wc but unless he starts to get it right he will lose my support sooner.
[Post edited 7 Aug 2022 9:48]


That goes without saying, I said I'd give him 10 games, he needs to improve greatly over the next 8 games

You give it out, you take it back it`s all part of the game
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Swansea City v Blackburn Rovers : Matchday Thread : SATURDAY ! on 14:04 - Aug 7 with 1102 viewsBoundy

Swansea City v Blackburn Rovers : Matchday Thread : SATURDAY ! on 12:59 - Aug 7 by onehunglow

Ideally new owners and a chairman with some nouse.

It really depends how much humiliation we are prepared to take.

Yesterday 400 Blackburn fans silencing a whole stadium.


Only when they scored the second

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Swansea City v Blackburn Rovers : Matchday Thread : SATURDAY ! on 14:52 - Aug 7 with 1062 viewsswan65split

Swansea City v Blackburn Rovers : Matchday Thread : SATURDAY ! on 09:59 - Aug 7 by BryanSwan

It is a bit harsh to blame Naughton for having to play backwards. Numerous times he was given the ball only for eveyone in front of him to become statues.
The same thing happened over snd over again to both him and Darling, it must've been infuriating.

You can see we still have a pretty good group of players and some of the play during our 10 minute purple patch was fantastic.

The next 2 games will decide it for me, if we are just as bereft of ideas, impetus snd movement. I think it will be time to move on.


Yep standing still waiting for a pass, not many running, criss crossing, dragging defenders. making runs,

More effort needed , tough 2 weeks for Martin, players , and the club, otherwise Piroe and maybe more will be gone, to pay running costs .
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Swansea City v Blackburn Rovers : Matchday Thread 22/23 on 15:59 - Aug 7 with 990 viewsFlashberryjack

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