| Transfer window general thread 10:16 - May 18 with 94385 views | rsonist |
Yiadom to Reading
Ledson to Preston |  | | |  |
| Transfer window general thread on 13:47 - Jun 14 with 5554 views | WestbourneR |
| Transfer window general thread on 13:42 - Jun 14 by lave16 |
ok so does this go against our buy young and sell on philosophy? |
Yes but if you blindly follow that path for every single purchase you end up with a lovely looking but lightwieght team like Barnsley and get relegated.
I know it's a tired expression - but you need a mix. |  |
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| Transfer window general thread on 13:53 - Jun 14 with 5537 views | CliveWilsonSaid |
| Transfer window general thread on 13:42 - Jun 14 by lave16 |
ok so does this go against our buy young and sell on philosophy? |
Maybe but in that position we need proven performers at the moment. They may bring in a younger player too of course. We’re a championship football club not a fcking creche! |  |
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| Transfer window general thread on 03:51 - Jun 15 with 5217 views | vanrrrr |
Forest doing a Wolves
Nottingham Forest have confirmed the double signing of Benfica pair Joao Carvalho and Diogo Goncalves - the former for a club-record £13m. |  | | |
| Transfer window general thread on 05:59 - Jun 15 with 5181 views | Lblock |
| Transfer window general thread on 13:27 - Jun 14 by bosh67 |
Paul Huntington was the best CB I saw this season at Loftus Road. Marked Smith out the game and out jumped him every time. He is under 6 foot (even though Wiki says he is 6 3") but has a Paul Parker style leap on him. Very impressive but again not sure we can afford him. [Post edited 14 Jun 2018 13:30]
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Geezer on dotorg states he’s a friend of a friend and apparently the fella has said we’re not matching the money PNE currently paying him so it’s a non starter.
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| Transfer window general thread on 08:31 - Jun 15 with 5089 views | Hunterhoop |
| Transfer window general thread on 03:51 - Jun 15 by vanrrrr |
Forest doing a Wolves
Nottingham Forest have confirmed the double signing of Benfica pair Joao Carvalho and Diogo Goncalves - the former for a club-record £13m. |
It’s utterly ridiculous.
We’re going to be one of about four teams genuinely trying to meet FFP and one of only four getting remotely close. Meanwhil the FL will continue trying to stick that £60m fine on us.
We are trying to do the right thing now. No one else is. No one else is getting nailed.
I really want us to do well next year. We are the good guys. Everyone else can f*ck off.
How on earth can Preston be paying bigger salaries than us?! Where’s that money from? No parachute payments or gate receipts. TV the same.
I hope we spoil these gamblers’ plans. [Post edited 15 Jun 2018 11:01]
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| Transfer window general thread on 08:36 - Jun 15 with 5078 views | TheChef |
| Transfer window general thread on 08:31 - Jun 15 by Hunterhoop |
It’s utterly ridiculous.
We’re going to be one of about four teams genuinely trying to meet FFP and one of only four getting remotely close. Meanwhil the FL will continue trying to stick that £60m fine on us.
We are trying to do the right thing now. No one else is. No one else is getting nailed.
I really want us to do well next year. We are the good guys. Everyone else can f*ck off.
How on earth can Preston be paying bigger salaries than us?! Where’s that money from? No parachute payments or gate receipts. TV the same.
I hope we spoil these gamblers’ plans. [Post edited 15 Jun 2018 11:01]
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I've thought for a long time the Premier League has no basis in financial reality. Looks like the Championship is going the same way. |  |
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| Transfer window general thread on 08:57 - Jun 15 with 5056 views | CliveWilsonSaid |
"How on earth can Preston be paying bigger salaries than us?! Where’s that money from. No parachute payments or gate receipts. TV the same."
Maybe that's why they're selling him? Also they have the benefit of not having to pay off managers every few months. | |
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| Transfer window general thread on 09:05 - Jun 15 with 5043 views | rsonist |
| Transfer window general thread on 08:31 - Jun 15 by Hunterhoop |
It’s utterly ridiculous.
We’re going to be one of about four teams genuinely trying to meet FFP and one of only four getting remotely close. Meanwhil the FL will continue trying to stick that £60m fine on us.
We are trying to do the right thing now. No one else is. No one else is getting nailed.
I really want us to do well next year. We are the good guys. Everyone else can f*ck off.
How on earth can Preston be paying bigger salaries than us?! Where’s that money from? No parachute payments or gate receipts. TV the same.
I hope we spoil these gamblers’ plans. [Post edited 15 Jun 2018 11:01]
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/43319004
This article attempts to justify the expenditure as within means... unconvincing to say the least.
The £32m profit announced today may not be accepted by the League, due to the £40m of loans written off. QPR did something similar a few years ago, but the League disputed it. However, the circumstances at Forest seem significantly different.
But even in that worst case, the figures represent a loss for this year of £8m, which combined with the previous two years' losses would give a three-year figure of around £31m - comfortably within the permitted £39m limit.
Not sure about the Huntington wages story - he joined them on a free transfer from Yeovil in 2012 - but having sold £12m of Hugill and Cunningham recently Preston seem to me like one of the few who are still balancing the books. | | | |
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| Transfer window general thread on 09:09 - Jun 15 with 5034 views | QPR_John |
| Transfer window general thread on 08:57 - Jun 15 by CliveWilsonSaid |
"How on earth can Preston be paying bigger salaries than us?! Where’s that money from. No parachute payments or gate receipts. TV the same."
Maybe that's why they're selling him? Also they have the benefit of not having to pay off managers every few months. |
Of course every few months means different things to different people. How many managers have been paid off since 2016 | | | |
| Transfer window general thread on 09:17 - Jun 15 with 5020 views | rsonist |
Also "we are the good guys" sounds nice and all but the rolled-up FFP paper hitting our greedy snouts is 95% of why we're behaving ourselves now. If you think we wouldn't still be sloshing the money around with the worst of them if those restrictions were lifted you're a more trusting man than I.
Mind you there's overspending and then there's getting in bed with the Mendes profiteering racket - compared to that we are the good guys. Then again I suppose that's we tried with Joorabchian years ago, just he's not as good at it... | | | |
| Transfer window general thread on 09:25 - Jun 15 with 5002 views | CliveWilsonSaid |
| Transfer window general thread on 09:09 - Jun 15 by QPR_John |
Of course every few months means different things to different people. How many managers have been paid off since 2016 |
2 since 2016 I think. How many do you want? ;) | |
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| Transfer window general thread on 09:44 - Jun 15 with 4962 views | paulparker |
| Transfer window general thread on 08:31 - Jun 15 by Hunterhoop |
It’s utterly ridiculous.
We’re going to be one of about four teams genuinely trying to meet FFP and one of only four getting remotely close. Meanwhil the FL will continue trying to stick that £60m fine on us.
We are trying to do the right thing now. No one else is. No one else is getting nailed.
I really want us to do well next year. We are the good guys. Everyone else can f*ck off.
How on earth can Preston be paying bigger salaries than us?! Where’s that money from? No parachute payments or gate receipts. TV the same.
I hope we spoil these gamblers’ plans. [Post edited 15 Jun 2018 11:01]
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TBF id much rather have Smyth and Eze , as for Preston they haven't had TF go out and waste 200 million the last 6 years and have sold players like Hugill for 8 million while we sell Austin for 4 million , that's why they have a bigger budget than us |  |
| And Bowles is onside, Swinburne has come rushing out of his goal , what can Bowles do here , onto the left foot no, on to the right foot
That’s there that’s two, and that’s Bowles
Brian Moore
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| Transfer window general thread on 09:47 - Jun 15 with 4954 views | stevec |
I'd be very surprised If McLaren has turned up on a premise that there's no money available. |  | | |
| Transfer window general thread on 10:16 - Jun 15 with 4920 views | QPR_John |
| Transfer window general thread on 09:25 - Jun 15 by CliveWilsonSaid |
2 since 2016 I think. How many do you want? ;) |
My point being that is not every few months | | | |
| Transfer window general thread on 10:22 - Jun 15 with 4906 views | CliveWilsonSaid |
| Transfer window general thread on 10:16 - Jun 15 by QPR_John |
My point being that is not every few months |
Yes an exaggeration admittedly but certainly more than Preston. Which was my point. | |
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| Transfer window general thread on 12:27 - Jun 15 with 4743 views | Hunterhoop |
| Transfer window general thread on 09:17 - Jun 15 by rsonist |
Also "we are the good guys" sounds nice and all but the rolled-up FFP paper hitting our greedy snouts is 95% of why we're behaving ourselves now. If you think we wouldn't still be sloshing the money around with the worst of them if those restrictions were lifted you're a more trusting man than I.
Mind you there's overspending and then there's getting in bed with the Mendes profiteering racket - compared to that we are the good guys. Then again I suppose that's we tried with Joorabchian years ago, just he's not as good at it... |
But we are now the good guys.
The club today is not the same club as the one who spunked £250m up the wall and lined Joorabchiam and McKay’s pockets.
It’s the same entity, but different personnel, and most importantly a different approach, culture and different strategies.
We are the good guys now. I’m judging Hoos and Les on what they’ve done and do, not what their predecessors running the show did.
Are the perfect? No. Will they make mistakes? Yes. Will Fernandes be able to resist meddling now and again? Probably not.
But be happy that we are now the good guys in this league of chancers, gamblers, crooks, and corruption, where our budget will be dwarfed by most. | | | |
| Transfer window general thread on 12:38 - Jun 15 with 4716 views | paulparker |
| Transfer window general thread on 09:47 - Jun 15 by stevec |
I'd be very surprised If McLaren has turned up on a premise that there's no money available. |
I don't know Steve he was hardly fighting the job offers off | |
| And Bowles is onside, Swinburne has come rushing out of his goal , what can Bowles do here , onto the left foot no, on to the right foot
That’s there that’s two, and that’s Bowles
Brian Moore
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| Transfer window general thread on 13:52 - Jun 15 with 4589 views | Northernr |
| Transfer window general thread on 09:47 - Jun 15 by stevec |
I'd be very surprised If McLaren has turned up on a premise that there's no money available. |
Prepare to be surprised then.
As I've said, over and over again, to people hammering them for not buying a striker, for people hammering them for lack of ambition, for people hammering Holloway for not doing better...
it's all there, in black and white, in the FFP rules of the league and in our accounts. |  | | |
| Transfer window general thread on 15:41 - Jun 15 with 4454 views | rsonist |
| Transfer window general thread on 12:27 - Jun 15 by Hunterhoop |
But we are now the good guys.
The club today is not the same club as the one who spunked £250m up the wall and lined Joorabchiam and McKay’s pockets.
It’s the same entity, but different personnel, and most importantly a different approach, culture and different strategies.
We are the good guys now. I’m judging Hoos and Les on what they’ve done and do, not what their predecessors running the show did.
Are the perfect? No. Will they make mistakes? Yes. Will Fernandes be able to resist meddling now and again? Probably not.
But be happy that we are now the good guys in this league of chancers, gamblers, crooks, and corruption, where our budget will be dwarfed by most. |
Paragraph breaks and heavy breathing doesn't make it any more true, but okay. You sound absolutely insane by the way. | | | |
| Transfer window general thread on 16:48 - Jun 15 with 4354 views | Northernr |
| Transfer window general thread on 15:41 - Jun 15 by rsonist |
Paragraph breaks and heavy breathing doesn't make it any more true, but okay. You sound absolutely insane by the way. |
WTF? | | | |
| Transfer window general thread on 18:09 - Jun 15 with 4278 views | rsonist |
| Transfer window general thread on 16:48 - Jun 15 by Northernr |
WTF? |
What are you struggling with?
I agree the club's doing noble, wholesome things and other clubs are dealing with the devil trying to get promoted. It's a good narrative. I'm just saying we've rather been forced into doing so, for our own good. Not that controversial a point is it, we all know it's true.
Hunter's Histrionics over here about "NO NO WE ARE THE GOOD GUYS" come off unhinged to me. Why do we need to reduce things to that? It's not an Avengers film. | | | |
| Transfer window general thread on 16:31 - Jun 17 with 3865 views | Northernr |
| Transfer window general thread on 18:09 - Jun 15 by rsonist |
What are you struggling with?
I agree the club's doing noble, wholesome things and other clubs are dealing with the devil trying to get promoted. It's a good narrative. I'm just saying we've rather been forced into doing so, for our own good. Not that controversial a point is it, we all know it's true.
Hunter's Histrionics over here about "NO NO WE ARE THE GOOD GUYS" come off unhinged to me. Why do we need to reduce things to that? It's not an Avengers film. |
Well I agree we’ve been forced into it and that given half a chance the board would go mental with the spending again, it’s the rules don’t allow it. I just didn’t read Hunter’s post as anything particularly OTT so was a bit taken aback with the aggression of the response. | | | |
| Transfer window general thread on 18:45 - Jun 17 with 3742 views | BazzaInTheLoft |
| Transfer window general thread on 16:31 - Jun 17 by Northernr |
Well I agree we’ve been forced into it and that given half a chance the board would go mental with the spending again, it’s the rules don’t allow it. I just didn’t read Hunter’s post as anything particularly OTT so was a bit taken aback with the aggression of the response. |
Hunter has called my posts garbage, tosh, bullshit, and balderdash many times.
He is right that I talk pish, but i'm sure he's a big boy who can take what he gives.
I don't think trying to undo 5 years of financial doping just because we were threatened with the naughty step makes us the good guys to be honest. [Post edited 17 Jun 2018 18:47]
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| Transfer window general thread on 19:03 - Jun 17 with 3712 views | Northernr |
| Transfer window general thread on 18:45 - Jun 17 by BazzaInTheLoft |
Hunter has called my posts garbage, tosh, bullshit, and balderdash many times.
He is right that I talk pish, but i'm sure he's a big boy who can take what he gives.
I don't think trying to undo 5 years of financial doping just because we were threatened with the naughty step makes us the good guys to be honest. [Post edited 17 Jun 2018 18:47]
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Me neither. I’m clearly missing something though because this thread seems a bit weird to me. | | | |
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