| Hornets on Sunday 19:31 - Feb 24 with 292522 views | EllDale |
They’re tweeting that their “matchday operations” are being restricted for the home game against Barrow on Sunday for reasons that they don’t want to divulge at the moment.
The bottom line is that the crowd capacity is limited to 920 and there will be no cash admissions on the day.
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| Hornets on Sunday on 17:57 - Mar 25 with 3762 views | pioneer |
| Hornets on Sunday on 11:38 - Mar 25 by mingthemerciless |
I see the same restrictions that were in place previously are still in place for this Sunday’s home game with North Wales Crusaders.
“ Parking will be free of charge on a first come first served basis “. What’s that all about ? Who gains from free parking apart from the car owners ? |
Probably falls under the same arrangements as the scoreboard, the costs of providing a car park attendant is something that is not being covered.
All very sad 1000 years to the day since the record home crowd to watch either of the towns professional teams happened
25 March 1922 over 26,000 watched Hornets beat Oldham in the Northern Union Cup QF. | | | |
| Hornets on Sunday on 18:07 - Mar 25 with 3716 views | mingthemerciless |
| Hornets on Sunday on 13:33 - Mar 25 by RAFCBLUE |
I think the provision of free parking is to be applauded by all concerned.
It just an extra cost that puts people off coming and especially in these high inflationary times.
You can park for free on all of the streets around the ground so why not at the ground?
Hornets article says that Stadium capacity is limited to 920 including hospitality, press, and guests areas.
You'd think that 920 will be more than enough capacity given visitors from Colywn Bay. What will the crowd be? 400? |
It’ll be more than that. North Wales are usually well supported. I don’t know what’s going on but nobody is coming out of this with any credit.
How many were at the football midweek by the way ?
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| Hornets on Sunday on 18:15 - Mar 25 with 3688 views | 442Dale |
| Hornets on Sunday on 18:07 - Mar 25 by mingthemerciless |
It’ll be more than that. North Wales are usually well supported. I don’t know what’s going on but nobody is coming out of this with any credit.
How many were at the football midweek by the way ?
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2088.
Until someone explains the situation it’s impossible to say whether credit should be given or taken away. As you said, you don’t know what’s going on so maybe Hornets and/or Dale could explain. It might make sense. |  |
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| Hornets on Sunday on 18:18 - Mar 25 with 3665 views | onedalefan |
| Hornets on Sunday on 17:57 - Mar 25 by pioneer |
Probably falls under the same arrangements as the scoreboard, the costs of providing a car park attendant is something that is not being covered.
All very sad 1000 years to the day since the record home crowd to watch either of the towns professional teams happened
25 March 1922 over 26,000 watched Hornets beat Oldham in the Northern Union Cup QF. |
1000 years? |  | | |
| Hornets on Sunday on 18:41 - Mar 25 with 3590 views | nordenblue |
| Hornets on Sunday on 18:18 - Mar 25 by onedalefan |
1000 years? |
Yep....got some real history that rugby league game | | | |
| Hornets on Sunday on 18:43 - Mar 25 with 3587 views | Mass_Debater |
| Hornets on Sunday on 18:07 - Mar 25 by mingthemerciless |
It’ll be more than that. North Wales are usually well supported. I don’t know what’s going on but nobody is coming out of this with any credit.
How many were at the football midweek by the way ?
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About 4 times the number that'll be at the egg chasing. | | | |
| Hornets on Sunday on 19:49 - Mar 25 with 3478 views | pioneer |
| Hornets on Sunday on 18:18 - Mar 25 by onedalefan |
1000 years? |
finger slippedddddddddd! | | | |
| Hornets on Sunday on 20:38 - Mar 25 with 3405 views | EllDale |
I think I’m right in saying that the record attendance for the challenge cup final away from Wembley Is 40000 plus at Hornets in 1924 when they staged the Wigan versus Oldham final.
The Athletic Grounds was a massive site though which never really reached it’s full potential. | | | |
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| Hornets on Sunday on 21:47 - Mar 25 with 3325 views | D_Alien |
| Hornets on Sunday on 20:38 - Mar 25 by EllDale |
I think I’m right in saying that the record attendance for the challenge cup final away from Wembley Is 40000 plus at Hornets in 1924 when they staged the Wigan versus Oldham final.
The Athletic Grounds was a massive site though which never really reached it’s full potential. |
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| Hornets on Sunday on 22:03 - Mar 25 with 3298 views | TVOS1907 |
| Hornets on Sunday on 21:47 - Mar 25 by D_Alien |
What's wrong with Morissons? |
There's more reasons to go there now than there ever was before... |  |
| When I was your age, I used to enjoy the odd game of tennis. Or was it golf? |
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| Hornets on Sunday on 22:16 - Mar 25 with 3280 views | D_Alien |
| Hornets on Sunday on 22:03 - Mar 25 by TVOS1907 |
There's more reasons to go there now than there ever was before... |
I've not been for a while. Is their food scrum-ptious?
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| Hornets on Sunday on 23:38 - Mar 25 with 3186 views | pioneer |
| Hornets on Sunday on 20:38 - Mar 25 by EllDale |
I think I’m right in saying that the record attendance for the challenge cup final away from Wembley Is 40000 plus at Hornets in 1924 when they staged the Wigan versus Oldham final.
The Athletic Grounds was a massive site though which never really reached it’s full potential. |
Yes. 41,831. And my finger didn’t slip typing that! | | | |
| Hornets on Sunday on 09:10 - Mar 26 with 3054 views | mingthemerciless |
| Hornets on Sunday on 18:43 - Mar 25 by Mass_Debater |
About 4 times the number that'll be at the egg chasing. |
I don’t think so matey. There’ll be nearer to the limit that’s been imposed although the fact there is such a low limit will put people off. Especially if you’re travelling from North Wales. It’s a long way to come to get turned away. Games against Oldham and Swinton will exceed that limit so it needs sorting out asap.
I’d be more concerned as to why only 2,000 can be bothered turning up to watch the football. Hornets were getting similar gates not that long ago. [Post edited 26 Mar 2022 9:11]
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| Hornets on Sunday on 09:17 - Mar 26 with 3039 views | kel |
| Hornets on Sunday on 09:10 - Mar 26 by mingthemerciless |
I don’t think so matey. There’ll be nearer to the limit that’s been imposed although the fact there is such a low limit will put people off. Especially if you’re travelling from North Wales. It’s a long way to come to get turned away. Games against Oldham and Swinton will exceed that limit so it needs sorting out asap.
I’d be more concerned as to why only 2,000 can be bothered turning up to watch the football. Hornets were getting similar gates not that long ago. [Post edited 26 Mar 2022 9:11]
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| Hornets on Sunday on 09:24 - Mar 26 with 3034 views | 442Dale |
| Hornets on Sunday on 09:10 - Mar 26 by mingthemerciless |
I don’t think so matey. There’ll be nearer to the limit that’s been imposed although the fact there is such a low limit will put people off. Especially if you’re travelling from North Wales. It’s a long way to come to get turned away. Games against Oldham and Swinton will exceed that limit so it needs sorting out asap.
I’d be more concerned as to why only 2,000 can be bothered turning up to watch the football. Hornets were getting similar gates not that long ago. [Post edited 26 Mar 2022 9:11]
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So have supporters at Hornets asked the club what the situation is? Is there a supporters club/trust that can ask them for clarity?
Football gates are lower because of the results. As it ever was. Is it a concern? Yes. But this season we have seen games like Tranmere, where after a decent run we had 3400 home supporters turn up. As recently as Barrow two weeks ago there were 2300 Dale fans despite the poor form. Since then results have been worse and the two Tuesday gates have been as low as expected, though they still should be seen as disappointing and a high priority.
Out of interest, when were the last five games where there were over 2000 home supporters at a Hornets game?
(Note: again, not against Hornets at all here, never have been. It’s a search for substance behind opinions) | |
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| Hornets on Sunday on 09:39 - Mar 26 with 3014 views | hammerdale |
| Hornets on Sunday on 18:15 - Mar 25 by 442Dale |
2088.
Until someone explains the situation it’s impossible to say whether credit should be given or taken away. As you said, you don’t know what’s going on so maybe Hornets and/or Dale could explain. It might make sense. |
The silence from both clubs is unbelievable.Apparently at the Hornets/Barrow game the football club would not allow Hornets to use the after match speaking facilities...no matter which code you support is pretty pathetic, if Hofners owe money or if Rochdale want more rent then just let the public know and stop all the speculation. | | | |
| Hornets on Sunday on 09:53 - Mar 26 with 2974 views | 442Dale |
| Hornets on Sunday on 09:39 - Mar 26 by hammerdale |
The silence from both clubs is unbelievable.Apparently at the Hornets/Barrow game the football club would not allow Hornets to use the after match speaking facilities...no matter which code you support is pretty pathetic, if Hofners owe money or if Rochdale want more rent then just let the public know and stop all the speculation. |
Some fair points.
As mentioned, do Hornets not have a supporters organisation like the Dale Trust? | |
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| Hornets on Sunday on 10:56 - Mar 26 with 2910 views | D_Alien |
| Hornets on Sunday on 09:53 - Mar 26 by 442Dale |
Some fair points.
As mentioned, do Hornets not have a supporters organisation like the Dale Trust? |
I've referred previously to the imminent vote by Rochdale Council on supporting (or otherwise) the Fair Game initiative which will add weight to the legislation being proposed for reform of the governance of football
Its obviously very much in Dale's interests to have rigorous legislation in place to prevent any future hostile takeovers; indeed, of any club. From a purely pragmatic point of view, our board must be seen to be playing fair with Hornets. I'd be extremely surprised if they weren't... but perceptions matter
Perhaps the Dale Trust, through its representative on the board, might wish to allay any misperceptions? It really does matter, and we really do need the Council to be onside both now, and in the future
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| Hornets on Sunday on 11:20 - Mar 26 with 2847 views | Dalenet |
This is what the Hornets Chairman has said on twitter this week
"Hi Kev, you know how transparent myself and this board are however in this case we wont air the dirty linen in public. We are working to resolve issues not of our making professionally & privately and will update when able. We apologise for any inconvenience. Cheers Andy"
So they claim it is not of their making and the "dirty linen" reference suggests a significant dispute. Our chairman said they would be looking forensically at all costs at the stadium. Maybe that involves costing up each element of the provision of a hornets game - everything has a cost and a price to the user. With cost inflation as it is, users have to pay. [Post edited 26 Mar 2022 11:21]
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| Hornets on Sunday on 11:58 - Mar 26 with 2799 views | Mass_Debater |
| Hornets on Sunday on 09:10 - Mar 26 by mingthemerciless |
I don’t think so matey. There’ll be nearer to the limit that’s been imposed although the fact there is such a low limit will put people off. Especially if you’re travelling from North Wales. It’s a long way to come to get turned away. Games against Oldham and Swinton will exceed that limit so it needs sorting out asap.
I’d be more concerned as to why only 2,000 can be bothered turning up to watch the football. Hornets were getting similar gates not that long ago. [Post edited 26 Mar 2022 9:11]
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No they weren't matey. | | | |
| Hornets on Sunday on 13:06 - Mar 26 with 2695 views | EllDale |
The only way Hornets will average 2000 these days is if they get promoted and entertain the likes of Bradford, Widnes, Leigh and Halifax. Teams with a decent away following.
In the division they’re in at the moment the likes of West Wales, Midlands Hurricanes and London Skolars won’t bring a minibus load of fans. | | | |
| Hornets on Sunday on 19:40 - Mar 26 with 2458 views | pioneer |
| Hornets on Sunday on 22:03 - Mar 25 by TVOS1907 |
There's more reasons to go there now than there ever was before... |
Far more sporting history at the Athletic grounds than at spotland, but I suspect you know that. | | | |
| Hornets on Sunday on 21:19 - Mar 26 with 2374 views | RochdaleGlory |
| Hornets on Sunday on 11:20 - Mar 26 by Dalenet |
This is what the Hornets Chairman has said on twitter this week
"Hi Kev, you know how transparent myself and this board are however in this case we wont air the dirty linen in public. We are working to resolve issues not of our making professionally & privately and will update when able. We apologise for any inconvenience. Cheers Andy"
So they claim it is not of their making and the "dirty linen" reference suggests a significant dispute. Our chairman said they would be looking forensically at all costs at the stadium. Maybe that involves costing up each element of the provision of a hornets game - everything has a cost and a price to the user. With cost inflation as it is, users have to pay. [Post edited 26 Mar 2022 11:21]
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Here is a thought......Maybe the RL club are up to speed on all payments and agreements and aren't doing anything different to what they have for the past 6/7 years under the current contractual arrangements ?
Maybe our current administration are getting desperate? Maybe they are realising football is an expensive business and a place in a football boardroom comes at a price? Maybe just maybe the RL club has done nothing wrong and we are trying to screw a customer and community partner as we are skint and desperate? Now i do not know but just imagine???......
All i would say in terms of direction of travel the RL club seems to be doing alright in difficult circumstances and good luck to them.
But and its a but as i am surmising but if we are going to preach about being a true fans / community club and wish to be a pillar of the community then maybe we should make sure we try and endear ourselves to that very same community and council and treat people how we would wish to be treated? [Post edited 26 Mar 2022 23:06]
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| Hornets on Sunday on 21:21 - Mar 26 with 2367 views | kel |
| Hornets on Sunday on 21:19 - Mar 26 by RochdaleGlory |
Here is a thought......Maybe the RL club are up to speed on all payments and agreements and aren't doing anything different to what they have for the past 6/7 years under the current contractual arrangements ?
Maybe our current administration are getting desperate? Maybe they are realising football is an expensive business and a place in a football boardroom comes at a price? Maybe just maybe the RL club has done nothing wrong and we are trying to screw a customer and community partner as we are skint and desperate? Now i do not know but just imagine???......
All i would say in terms of direction of travel the RL club seems to be doing alright in difficult circumstances and good luck to them.
But and its a but as i am surmising but if we are going to preach about being a true fans / community club and wish to be a pillar of the community then maybe we should make sure we try and endear ourselves to that very same community and council and treat people how we would wish to be treated? [Post edited 26 Mar 2022 23:06]
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| Hornets on Sunday on 21:28 - Mar 26 with 2353 views | RochdaleGlory |
| Hornets on Sunday on 21:21 - Mar 26 by kel |
Ace. |
I didn't think it was that good but thanks all the same.... | | | |
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