| Dhanda Racist Abuse 06:29 - Feb 11 with 10242 views | 34dfgdf54 |
Swans confirm Dhanda received racist abuse after yesterday’s game.
Not surprised at all unfortunately.
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| Dhanda Racist Abuse on 14:19 - Feb 13 with 870 views | NotLoyal |
| Dhanda Racist Abuse on 14:05 - Feb 13 by Neath_Jack |
No they didn't, they fell into the trap that he set. He'd lay a little bit of bait, then he uses their replies for ever and a day, like some sort of victim, He's always done it. |
That's called utilising information gathered as the discussion progresses to illustrate a point or points. It's what intelligent people do in a debate. |  |
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| Dhanda Racist Abuse on 14:20 - Feb 13 with 867 views | Neath_Jack |
| Dhanda Racist Abuse on 14:19 - Feb 13 by NotLoyal |
That's called utilising information gathered as the discussion progresses to illustrate a point or points. It's what intelligent people do in a debate. |
Same as what I'm doing in the other thread then.
Glad we agree now. |  |
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| Dhanda Racist Abuse on 14:27 - Feb 13 with 848 views | NotLoyal |
| Dhanda Racist Abuse on 14:05 - Feb 13 by Neath_Jack |
No they didn't, they fell into the trap that he set. He'd lay a little bit of bait, then he uses their replies for ever and a day, like some sort of victim, He's always done it. |
So if you agree with my last post in response to this, then you too are the same. You can't be both depending on your answer to each post. I think you are currently in a state of flux dependent on the question you answer. | |
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| Dhanda Racist Abuse on 14:29 - Feb 13 with 847 views | Neath_Jack |
| Dhanda Racist Abuse on 14:27 - Feb 13 by NotLoyal |
So if you agree with my last post in response to this, then you too are the same. You can't be both depending on your answer to each post. I think you are currently in a state of flux dependent on the question you answer. |
I was humouring you. | |
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| Dhanda Racist Abuse on 14:31 - Feb 13 with 835 views | NotLoyal |
| Dhanda Racist Abuse on 14:29 - Feb 13 by Neath_Jack |
I was humouring you. |
Actually you got caught out, it's ok, we all can't be resolved that all the time. Just like your attempts to distance yourself in the other thread connecting blm to racism. You got caught out, but it's ok. | |
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| Dhanda Racist Abuse on 14:31 - Feb 13 with 835 views | Neath_Jack |
| Dhanda Racist Abuse on 14:31 - Feb 13 by NotLoyal |
Actually you got caught out, it's ok, we all can't be resolved that all the time. Just like your attempts to distance yourself in the other thread connecting blm to racism. You got caught out, but it's ok. |
Damn, you're too sharp for me. | |
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| Dhanda Racist Abuse on 14:35 - Feb 13 with 825 views | NotLoyal |
| Dhanda Racist Abuse on 14:31 - Feb 13 by Neath_Jack |
Damn, you're too sharp for me. |
I am very SHARP. Been doing it for years. | |
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| Dhanda Racist Abuse on 14:41 - Feb 13 with 809 views | Highjack |
| Dhanda Racist Abuse on 14:05 - Feb 13 by Neath_Jack |
No they didn't, they fell into the trap that he set. He'd lay a little bit of bait, then he uses their replies for ever and a day, like some sort of victim, He's always done it. |
It was a thread about stormzy winning some award. I copied and pasted lyrics unedited and untouched where he sings about shanking someone in the liver. I was then immediately called a racist who was only attacking stormzy because he is black. How the hell in any feasible way, shape or form could that be conceived as “a trap”. |  |
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| Dhanda Racist Abuse on 14:44 - Feb 13 with 803 views | NotLoyal |
| Dhanda Racist Abuse on 14:41 - Feb 13 by Highjack |
It was a thread about stormzy winning some award. I copied and pasted lyrics unedited and untouched where he sings about shanking someone in the liver. I was then immediately called a racist who was only attacking stormzy because he is black. How the hell in any feasible way, shape or form could that be conceived as “a trap”. |
I would imagine you were just being humoured or something 😂 | |
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| Dhanda Racist Abuse on 14:47 - Feb 13 with 798 views | AndyCole |
| Dhanda Racist Abuse on 14:35 - Feb 13 by NotLoyal |
I am very SHARP. Been doing it for years. |
The fella in the Neath corner has been on the ropes for quite some time.
Another 'You lot-ist', flailing. |  |
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Anti gang-bullying and poor modding thereof -
Will always make a stand against those who consistently choose to turn a blind eye |
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| Dhanda Racist Abuse on 15:15 - Feb 13 with 779 views | KeithHaynes |
| Dhanda Racist Abuse on 14:35 - Feb 13 by NotLoyal |
I am very SHARP. Been doing it for years. |
In response to NL SHARP statement.
Personally I have been active and very responsive through writing and my band to fighting racism since 1979, the year I joined ANTIFA and spent a lot of time supporting socialism via the ballot box and certain actions. Unfortunately in recent times the American ANTIFA have discoloured that struggle completely, but then that’s what they do in a lot of instances. SHARP though was an American idea which was promoted in Europe by a good friend of mine and anti fascist campaigner Roddy Moreno, Cardiff fan, and lead singer of The Oppressed, who NL has met and taken on those beliefs. Looking back on the times NL has tried to discuss this there have been some uneducated responses, from a few years back.
My grandfather fought on the streets of cable street before volunteering to fight here in Spain for the govt against the far right. That stance remains in me today. I’m intolerant of any racism hence the reason why this site will not be, and never will be associated with racism. It’s ok to be politically right or politically left, but without evidence on here that is clear and precise regards racism I will continue to refute allegations of racial prejudice on here, there are none. Just political opinion.
I have always said we will encourage debate, and that’s fair, yes there are people of right wing views on here just as there are on every site, and of course left wing. Debate on ‘any subject’ with the team we support being the common denominator should be encouraged. I couldn’t care who has a political opinion nor how they put it over as long as it is fair, well thought out and non abusive. However, indication that this site in anyway supports any racist stance will not be tolerated along with any racist message as we had yesterday which was dealt with. If there is evidence then it needs reporting immediately, I've covered this already. That’s down to all of us to police and manage.
I hope I’ve put this across to everyone’s satisfaction, and of course if there are any dissenters to this that’s fine, there are always other places to go to spout ill founded allegations or indeed a racist message. Recently myself and Phil reinforced that agreement between our two sites, anything derogatory or inflammatory to either site will be removed and if it persists the user will be banned. Ok, neither of us wants to lose users, but we both get 20 plus thousand views a day, so it’s a drop in the ocean compared to the hassle a few posters can cause.
Not difficult to grasp. It’s already happening. It’s not ideal, but neither of us need to deal with allegations as he has had and at times this site gets. We remain united in our support of a complete intolerance to any racist message, I’ve got a long history of fighting racism, documented and detailed. As had NL in the past.
Let’s lighten up a bit too, impulsive posts do little to help, especially when little or no evidence exists to support what is being said.
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| Dhanda Racist Abuse on 15:29 - Feb 13 with 758 views | Highjack |
| Dhanda Racist Abuse on 14:44 - Feb 13 by NotLoyal |
I would imagine you were just being humoured or something 😂 |
Nah it was a perfectly executed malicious and Machiavellian trap and they all fell into it as planned.
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| Dhanda Racist Abuse on 15:34 - Feb 13 with 749 views | Highjack |
| Dhanda Racist Abuse on 14:47 - Feb 13 by AndyCole |
The fella in the Neath corner has been on the ropes for quite some time.
Another 'You lot-ist', flailing. |
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| Dhanda Racist Abuse on 15:35 - Feb 13 with 746 views | onehunglow |
| Dhanda Racist Abuse on 15:15 - Feb 13 by KeithHaynes |
In response to NL SHARP statement.
Personally I have been active and very responsive through writing and my band to fighting racism since 1979, the year I joined ANTIFA and spent a lot of time supporting socialism via the ballot box and certain actions. Unfortunately in recent times the American ANTIFA have discoloured that struggle completely, but then that’s what they do in a lot of instances. SHARP though was an American idea which was promoted in Europe by a good friend of mine and anti fascist campaigner Roddy Moreno, Cardiff fan, and lead singer of The Oppressed, who NL has met and taken on those beliefs. Looking back on the times NL has tried to discuss this there have been some uneducated responses, from a few years back.
My grandfather fought on the streets of cable street before volunteering to fight here in Spain for the govt against the far right. That stance remains in me today. I’m intolerant of any racism hence the reason why this site will not be, and never will be associated with racism. It’s ok to be politically right or politically left, but without evidence on here that is clear and precise regards racism I will continue to refute allegations of racial prejudice on here, there are none. Just political opinion.
I have always said we will encourage debate, and that’s fair, yes there are people of right wing views on here just as there are on every site, and of course left wing. Debate on ‘any subject’ with the team we support being the common denominator should be encouraged. I couldn’t care who has a political opinion nor how they put it over as long as it is fair, well thought out and non abusive. However, indication that this site in anyway supports any racist stance will not be tolerated along with any racist message as we had yesterday which was dealt with. If there is evidence then it needs reporting immediately, I've covered this already. That’s down to all of us to police and manage.
I hope I’ve put this across to everyone’s satisfaction, and of course if there are any dissenters to this that’s fine, there are always other places to go to spout ill founded allegations or indeed a racist message. Recently myself and Phil reinforced that agreement between our two sites, anything derogatory or inflammatory to either site will be removed and if it persists the user will be banned. Ok, neither of us wants to lose users, but we both get 20 plus thousand views a day, so it’s a drop in the ocean compared to the hassle a few posters can cause.
Not difficult to grasp. It’s already happening. It’s not ideal, but neither of us need to deal with allegations as he has had and at times this site gets. We remain united in our support of a complete intolerance to any racist message, I’ve got a long history of fighting racism, documented and detailed. As had NL in the past.
Let’s lighten up a bit too, impulsive posts do little to help, especially when little or no evidence exists to support what is being said.
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Keith
Without incriminating myself,it's hard to lighten up after reading that or indeed this very subject.
Unlike you,I am both right and left wing so Ive real problems because I get offended by both | |
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| Dhanda Racist Abuse on 16:09 - Feb 13 with 728 views | KeithHaynes |
| Dhanda Racist Abuse on 15:35 - Feb 13 by onehunglow |
Keith
Without incriminating myself,it's hard to lighten up after reading that or indeed this very subject.
Unlike you,I am both right and left wing so Ive real problems because I get offended by both |
I am now more centre left, for me, in football the battle continues regards education, in life, I’m pretty non plussed, why should I be anything else, I find the subject exhausting and hijacked by people who have no recollection or education in the past just how today’s politics can help them personally. I’ve moved on, I have my beliefs, but I too, as I said, want all sides to debate, I thought I made that clear. It’s hard to be light hearted regards racism but it’s easy to be tolerant of everyone else who has a differing political view without resorting to insults. I don’t impose my beliefs on here or anywhere, those days are well gone, but there’s no harm in sharing them.
I too get offended by people but their politics rarely does. | |
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| Dhanda Racist Abuse on 16:12 - Feb 13 with 714 views | onehunglow |
| Dhanda Racist Abuse on 16:09 - Feb 13 by KeithHaynes |
I am now more centre left, for me, in football the battle continues regards education, in life, I’m pretty non plussed, why should I be anything else, I find the subject exhausting and hijacked by people who have no recollection or education in the past just how today’s politics can help them personally. I’ve moved on, I have my beliefs, but I too, as I said, want all sides to debate, I thought I made that clear. It’s hard to be light hearted regards racism but it’s easy to be tolerant of everyone else who has a differing political view without resorting to insults. I don’t impose my beliefs on here or anywhere, those days are well gone, but there’s no harm in sharing them.
I too get offended by people but their politics rarely does. |
An eloquent riposte.
At 71 I'm surprised Ive lived as long and the most important leson of life Ive learned is to be able to look in the mirror and not recoil.
I have been an extremely unpleasant individual and upset ,hurt and offended many including all of what was left of my extended family in Swansea but
Im still here. | |
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