| Dhanda Racist Abuse 06:29 - Feb 11 with 10244 views | 34dfgdf54 |
Swans confirm Dhanda received racist abuse after yesterday’s game.
Not surprised at all unfortunately.
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| Dhanda Racist Abuse on 16:29 - Feb 11 with 1497 views | AnotherJohn |
Yan doesn't deserve that, and I hope he isn't letting it get to him. I'd be thinking that it says more about the abusers than about him. |  | | |
| Dhanda Racist Abuse on 17:27 - Feb 11 with 1448 views | Nortbankboy |
| Dhanda Racist Abuse on 16:29 - Feb 11 by AnotherJohn |
Yan doesn't deserve that, and I hope he isn't letting it get to him. I'd be thinking that it says more about the abusers than about him. |
yan is turning into a very good footballer.
Hope he can ignore these racist and continue his development | | | |
| Dhanda Racist Abuse on 17:29 - Feb 11 with 1445 views | pencoedjack |
| Dhanda Racist Abuse on 13:45 - Feb 11 by Highjack |
I for one have never shagged a sheep. |
I have never really waited to have a shite on the English side of the bridge
Deep down I don't think we are the greatest team in football the world has ever seen
I don't really think England is full of shite
I'm pretty sure Eddie May's wife wasn't a lesbian
My mother never really told me to get a gun & shoot anyone from Cardiff
I take no offence to being called a sheep shagger at a game & as is normal with football fans we have turned the song back to the opposition.
It wasn't long ago being called a Jack b@stard was seen as a bad thing now I have a number plate with YJB on it.
Racist abuse is very different & should be eradicated from our game but we will soon end up in an even more sterile bowl that are called stadiums if the snowflakes get their way.
Take banter from football & the game is gone for me & probably many others. |  | | |
| Dhanda Racist Abuse on 17:38 - Feb 11 with 1435 views | NotLoyal |
| Dhanda Racist Abuse on 13:28 - Feb 11 by ItchySphincter |
Correct. They hate the knee on here yet not one can give a rational explanation besides ‘Marxism, blah, blah, politics in football, blah, blah....” which of course is bullsh!t but they can’t be honest about the real reasons. |
They hate the knee on here ?
Pushing the boundaries and extremely incorrect. |  |
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| Dhanda Racist Abuse on 18:23 - Feb 11 with 1395 views | jackrabbit |
| Dhanda Racist Abuse on 15:07 - Feb 11 by ReslovenSwan1 |
Its not just saying 'bah' to me though is it. It calling me a effing Welsh sheep......... etc with violent intent to groups including women and children. The sheep noises then take a new significance.
Is a making monkey noises to a black player OK with you as well? I see no differnce. In fact it is the same bone heads doing it.
You may accept it as the lower end of the racist spectrum but the good people organising opposition to this type of behaviour are encouraging people to show ZERO tolerance. |
A long time ago, probably more than 30 years ago, when I was single and working in London, I went with some workmates to see Sittingbourne Town vs Merthyr Town, in Kent. The crowd was small, probably less than a thousand. The Sittingbourne fans started chanting sheep-shaggers but unfortunately for them Merthyr took the lead and so the small contingent of Merthyr fans started chanting "1 nil to the sheep-shaggers" . By the middle of the second half Merthyr had built a decent 3 goal lead but the sheep-shagging taunts were still coming. Then a Merthyr fan ran over to the Sittingbourne fans and started chanting "I'd rather shag a sheep than an English girl!". My pals who were all English were pissing themselves laughing, as was a large contingent of the home crowd. They gave him a bit of an ovation. Very funny. |  | | |
| Dhanda Racist Abuse on 18:32 - Feb 11 with 1389 views | Gwyn737 |
| Dhanda Racist Abuse on 13:58 - Feb 11 by Dr_Parnassus |
The statement isn’t capitalised, what you wrote is the organisation. That’s the issue, people can’t seperate them, yet they are wildly different.
As Dhanda has shown, racism isn’t just against one particular race. So not even the statement is fit for purpose when it comes to this. Dhanda isn’t black, Eastwood isn’t black (thanks to the above poster) yet both were racially abused. Racism comes in all forms, not just one.
Kick it Out encompasses all. [Post edited 11 Feb 2021 14:00]
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It’s not been effective enough though, hence people feeling the need to take a different approach | | | |
| Dhanda Racist Abuse on 18:33 - Feb 11 with 1386 views | Gwyn737 |
| Dhanda Racist Abuse on 17:29 - Feb 11 by pencoedjack |
I have never really waited to have a shite on the English side of the bridge
Deep down I don't think we are the greatest team in football the world has ever seen
I don't really think England is full of shite
I'm pretty sure Eddie May's wife wasn't a lesbian
My mother never really told me to get a gun & shoot anyone from Cardiff
I take no offence to being called a sheep shagger at a game & as is normal with football fans we have turned the song back to the opposition.
It wasn't long ago being called a Jack b@stard was seen as a bad thing now I have a number plate with YJB on it.
Racist abuse is very different & should be eradicated from our game but we will soon end up in an even more sterile bowl that are called stadiums if the snowflakes get their way.
Take banter from football & the game is gone for me & probably many others. |
Yep. If you don’t want the sheep jibes you can’t have any of these either. | | | |
| Dhanda Racist Abuse on 18:57 - Feb 11 with 1349 views | Flashberryjack |
You have to wonder what goes through these morons minds, when they racially abuse people on any of the social media sites, but it does seem that twitter is one of worse.
Although nothing really surprises these days, I read today of some scummy tw*t writing graffiti on a wall in Bridgend, it read "F*ck the NHS and key workers"
No words can describe these people (assuming they have no mental health issues). |  |
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| Dhanda Racist Abuse on 20:18 - Feb 11 with 1228 views | Catullus |
| Dhanda Racist Abuse on 12:14 - Feb 11 by jackrabbit |
Welsh people cannot suffer racist abuse because they’re not a different race. We are generally white Caucasians just like our Anglo-Saxon fellow residents of these islands. Cultural or nationalistic abuse yes, but we give it as well as take it. Doesn’t bother me one iota.
This is all a bit dated of course because the U.K. is now a diverse package of all different races and colours. |
If you're going down that road then there is no racism because we are all the human race so any abuse based on colour or nationality is ethnic abuse.
Us Welsh get a lot of it but we mostly laugh it off with things like we shag it you eat it or always sh.t on the English side of the bridge.
PS, all racism is wrong, kick it out. [Post edited 11 Feb 2021 20:21]
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| Dhanda Racist Abuse on 21:16 - Feb 11 with 1191 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| Dhanda Racist Abuse on 17:29 - Feb 11 by pencoedjack |
I have never really waited to have a shite on the English side of the bridge
Deep down I don't think we are the greatest team in football the world has ever seen
I don't really think England is full of shite
I'm pretty sure Eddie May's wife wasn't a lesbian
My mother never really told me to get a gun & shoot anyone from Cardiff
I take no offence to being called a sheep shagger at a game & as is normal with football fans we have turned the song back to the opposition.
It wasn't long ago being called a Jack b@stard was seen as a bad thing now I have a number plate with YJB on it.
Racist abuse is very different & should be eradicated from our game but we will soon end up in an even more sterile bowl that are called stadiums if the snowflakes get their way.
Take banter from football & the game is gone for me & probably many others. |
Accussing Welsh people of being perverted is not banter and is racist when delivered with violent intent. None of the other things on your list is racist. This has been increasing in recent years
A similar thing is affecting Brighton and arrests have been made. This is not banter either .
https://www.brightonandhovenews.org/2020/01/02/three-football-fans-arrested-over |  |
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| Dhanda Racist Abuse on 22:00 - Feb 11 with 1148 views | pencoedjack |
We will have to agree to disagree
Does it bother you that Swans fans sing about being perverted themselves when we go 1 nil up? | | | |
| Dhanda Racist Abuse on 23:00 - Feb 11 with 1107 views | Glossolalia |
This thread is about Dhanda and offering our support, and not about gross generalisations regarding many posters' disagreements about the BLM issue, all of which have been logically explained on many occasions. Either grow up or do some learning. |  | | |
| Dhanda Racist Abuse on 23:16 - Feb 11 with 1087 views | onehunglow |
Welsh born but move away whilst a toddler and identify as English ? It's a minefield.
We can have all the legislation you want but you cannot always ,if ever,change minds.
The hatred and racism on here is mainly towards the English.I don't need to single out those who do [Post edited 11 Feb 2021 23:18]
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| Dhanda Racist Abuse on 23:28 - Feb 11 with 1088 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| Dhanda Racist Abuse on 22:00 - Feb 11 by pencoedjack |
We will have to agree to disagree
Does it bother you that Swans fans sing about being perverted themselves when we go 1 nil up? |
I think it is moronic actually. Its not about agreeing or disgagreeing. Its a way of saying the insult does not effect me. Welsh people do not suggest English people like goats. If they did they would be arrested.
You are tolerant to sheep chants but presumably against monkey chants or homophobic chants. It is an inconsistent position. If you can do 'sheep' you can do 'monkey'. Its the same thing and the same people. It an insulting put down. Sheep chants with violent intent should be dealt with by the Police just like homophobic chants which are actually less insulting. Celtic people are a race. | |
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| Dhanda Racist Abuse on 00:47 - Feb 12 with 1066 views | NotLoyal |
| Dhanda Racist Abuse on 23:16 - Feb 11 by onehunglow |
Welsh born but move away whilst a toddler and identify as English ? It's a minefield.
We can have all the legislation you want but you cannot always ,if ever,change minds.
The hatred and racism on here is mainly towards the English.I don't need to single out those who do [Post edited 11 Feb 2021 23:18]
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Back on track eh ?
JAN DHANDA | |
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| Dhanda Racist Abuse on 10:11 - Feb 12 with 955 views | onehunglow |
| Dhanda Racist Abuse on 00:47 - Feb 12 by NotLoyal |
Back on track eh ?
JAN DHANDA |
You can pass laws but can't change minds.
Racism is deep down and right now ,it is latent because of legislation .
Back on track | |
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| Dhanda Racist Abuse on 11:45 - Feb 12 with 936 views | jackrabbit |
Yan has thanked people across the football world for the support and concern that has been shown to him, due to the abuse he suffered by some braindead numpties. I would have thought that this will have more than compensated him for the hurt and anguish he must have suffered so I’d say probably all’s well that ends well. In the event, it’s been strangely pleasurable as a Swans fan to hear the name of one our players, Yan Dhanda mentioned on the national news, even if in rather sad circumstances. I hope he plays tomorrow. | | | |
| Dhanda Racist Abuse on 12:14 - Feb 12 with 913 views | Catullus |
| Dhanda Racist Abuse on 23:28 - Feb 11 by ReslovenSwan1 |
I think it is moronic actually. Its not about agreeing or disgagreeing. Its a way of saying the insult does not effect me. Welsh people do not suggest English people like goats. If they did they would be arrested.
You are tolerant to sheep chants but presumably against monkey chants or homophobic chants. It is an inconsistent position. If you can do 'sheep' you can do 'monkey'. Its the same thing and the same people. It an insulting put down. Sheep chants with violent intent should be dealt with by the Police just like homophobic chants which are actually less insulting. Celtic people are a race. |
Being called a sheep shagger isn't quite the same as being called a monkey because you are black, or being accused of being less human because you are gay.
Racism and Homophobia are calling people sub human, not quite the same as calling us Welsh perverts but the reason many of us don't just put up with it and laugh about it is because we are strong enough and we understand the intent behind the insult so we choose to own it and therefore take away the power from the insult thrower, throw the insult back in their face.
Black people do something similar when they call each other "ni44er". I used to work with someone who was openly gay and would call himself all sorts of names, he would acept things said in jest.
I'm not defending the insults, just bpointing out we deal with things in different ways and suggesting that being called monkey or queer chunt are worse than any sheep related insults thrown at us.
It does seem to me though, the police/authorities will clamp down on other insults but will let us Welsh be called all sorts and do nothing. | |
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| Dhanda Racist Abuse on 12:22 - Feb 12 with 906 views | onehunglow |
If you are of colour ,then in overwhelming white areas like Swansea,you stand out-without question. If it was Manningham,Bradford ,you wouldn't.
You can get by with being Welsh with problems at all as -at first sight-you do not stand out.Racism had its genesis in colour after all.
Scousers are refered to as bin dippers/drug dealers/thick/vile/thieves and it's a laugh when all other posters join in.
So,let's not get too precious | |
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| Dhanda Racist Abuse on 12:37 - Feb 12 with 904 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| Dhanda Racist Abuse on 12:14 - Feb 12 by Catullus |
Being called a sheep shagger isn't quite the same as being called a monkey because you are black, or being accused of being less human because you are gay.
Racism and Homophobia are calling people sub human, not quite the same as calling us Welsh perverts but the reason many of us don't just put up with it and laugh about it is because we are strong enough and we understand the intent behind the insult so we choose to own it and therefore take away the power from the insult thrower, throw the insult back in their face.
Black people do something similar when they call each other "ni44er". I used to work with someone who was openly gay and would call himself all sorts of names, he would acept things said in jest.
I'm not defending the insults, just bpointing out we deal with things in different ways and suggesting that being called monkey or queer chunt are worse than any sheep related insults thrown at us.
It does seem to me though, the police/authorities will clamp down on other insults but will let us Welsh be called all sorts and do nothing. |
Being accused of being a sheep...... is being accused of being sub human. Its a blatant insult by English people to Welsh people.
I have witnessed three or four 'in your face' incidents of violent anti Welsh racial abuse by tattoed far right English smack heads on some sort of substance. It is no joke and very upsetting if witnessed with wife and children.
You can "put up with it and laugh it off" if you like. That is stone cold weakness and subservience in my view.
Policing in this country is by consent. If people complain they will have to act and arrest the English fascists.
What most of us have recieved in terms of physical threats assoicated with racial abuse is far worse that digital slurs that Dhanda has had to put up on Istagram with I my view.
Sheep s .... is the last bastion of good old fashioned legal English racsim left from the 1960s It survives because it is tolerated .
There was some indication of changing times in a match between Reading and Cardiff last season . The Thames Valley Police were edging to some form of position but backtracked as they did not feel legally in a solid position, Cardiff fans were arrested and released after being accused of racisim. The TVP apologised I think
Any one who talks Zero tolerance is not being honest. | |
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| Dhanda Racist Abuse on 12:50 - Feb 12 with 893 views | Catullus |
| Dhanda Racist Abuse on 12:37 - Feb 12 by ReslovenSwan1 |
Being accused of being a sheep...... is being accused of being sub human. Its a blatant insult by English people to Welsh people.
I have witnessed three or four 'in your face' incidents of violent anti Welsh racial abuse by tattoed far right English smack heads on some sort of substance. It is no joke and very upsetting if witnessed with wife and children.
You can "put up with it and laugh it off" if you like. That is stone cold weakness and subservience in my view.
Policing in this country is by consent. If people complain they will have to act and arrest the English fascists.
What most of us have recieved in terms of physical threats assoicated with racial abuse is far worse that digital slurs that Dhanda has had to put up on Istagram with I my view.
Sheep s .... is the last bastion of good old fashioned legal English racsim left from the 1960s It survives because it is tolerated .
There was some indication of changing times in a match between Reading and Cardiff last season . The Thames Valley Police were edging to some form of position but backtracked as they did not feel legally in a solid position, Cardiff fans were arrested and released after being accused of racisim. The TVP apologised I think
Any one who talks Zero tolerance is not being honest. |
They don't call us sheep though, they call us sheep shaggers. I have witnessed some bad things at football, much worse than bleating or being called a sheep shagger. I have seen violence, by fans and by police. I walked past Terry Coles body minutes after it happened. Yes I have seen and had anti Welsh abuse directed at me too.
Football fans, probably all sports fans have their idiots who behave that way. Norwich, Peterborough and Lincoln fans get called sheep shaggers too.
It's not weakness to be able to rise above it any more than it's weakness to hate it and report it.
You say if people complain they will have to act, I know from experience that's not true. I also cannot say what I have experienced is worse than what Dhanda has had, who knows how it affected him?
We can prwch zero tolerance but even so what can be done is what the law says. If calling us sheep shaggers isn't considered a hate crime nothing gets done. I've seen police laugh at people complaining about this, saying that we gave just as good as we got.
Mind you I also remember police saying they would arrest anyone using the word Yid as it was defatory and insulting, they were talking about a Spurs game, Spurs call themselves Yids. It's a funny old world.
I think there are bigger things to worry about than other football fans trying to get under our skin but that's me. | |
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| Dhanda Racist Abuse on 13:46 - Feb 12 with 863 views | Gwyn737 |
| Dhanda Racist Abuse on 12:37 - Feb 12 by ReslovenSwan1 |
Being accused of being a sheep...... is being accused of being sub human. Its a blatant insult by English people to Welsh people.
I have witnessed three or four 'in your face' incidents of violent anti Welsh racial abuse by tattoed far right English smack heads on some sort of substance. It is no joke and very upsetting if witnessed with wife and children.
You can "put up with it and laugh it off" if you like. That is stone cold weakness and subservience in my view.
Policing in this country is by consent. If people complain they will have to act and arrest the English fascists.
What most of us have recieved in terms of physical threats assoicated with racial abuse is far worse that digital slurs that Dhanda has had to put up on Istagram with I my view.
Sheep s .... is the last bastion of good old fashioned legal English racsim left from the 1960s It survives because it is tolerated .
There was some indication of changing times in a match between Reading and Cardiff last season . The Thames Valley Police were edging to some form of position but backtracked as they did not feel legally in a solid position, Cardiff fans were arrested and released after being accused of racisim. The TVP apologised I think
Any one who talks Zero tolerance is not being honest. |
Where are you meeting all these English facists?
I've lived in England for 21 years and don't associate the English with those traits at all. Outside of football chants I've never experienced it personally.
The only time I've witnessed anything of that ilk walking past BNP type rallys, and they seem far more concerned with different skin colour or different languages. Never heard any Welsh stuff. | | | |
| Dhanda Racist Abuse on 13:55 - Feb 12 with 856 views | Nortbankboy |
| Dhanda Racist Abuse on 13:46 - Feb 12 by Gwyn737 |
Where are you meeting all these English facists?
I've lived in England for 21 years and don't associate the English with those traits at all. Outside of football chants I've never experienced it personally.
The only time I've witnessed anything of that ilk walking past BNP type rallys, and they seem far more concerned with different skin colour or different languages. Never heard any Welsh stuff. |
Probably football matches | | | |
| Dhanda Racist Abuse on 14:08 - Feb 12 with 846 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| Dhanda Racist Abuse on 13:46 - Feb 12 by Gwyn737 |
Where are you meeting all these English facists?
I've lived in England for 21 years and don't associate the English with those traits at all. Outside of football chants I've never experienced it personally.
The only time I've witnessed anything of that ilk walking past BNP type rallys, and they seem far more concerned with different skin colour or different languages. Never heard any Welsh stuff. |
I came across it at the end of games in concourse for example. Most fans claim to have had to 'put up with it' somewhere along the line. The worst example I saw was a Merthyr Hereford match where the SWP stood idly by in the face of blatant Welsh taunting.
I do not accept sheep humour and 'take in on' with work collegues that go down that route. I tell them I am a fan of Swansea. They mention sheep and I tell them that humour is not for me.
There is an area of Birmingaham 'white flight' along the Welsh borders where there are some pretty extreme views from what I have seen. | |
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| Dhanda Racist Abuse on 14:36 - Feb 12 with 820 views | onehunglow |
| Dhanda Racist Abuse on 13:46 - Feb 12 by Gwyn737 |
Where are you meeting all these English facists?
I've lived in England for 21 years and don't associate the English with those traits at all. Outside of football chants I've never experienced it personally.
The only time I've witnessed anything of that ilk walking past BNP type rallys, and they seem far more concerned with different skin colour or different languages. Never heard any Welsh stuff. |
Sense.
Ive lived 44 yrs in England and near Welsh border too.
No difference at all in the people. We look the same and often think the same;have the same hopes and fears .We speak the same language too .
In my experience it is batshiyte crazy to even suggest the Welsh get a hard time .The hardest time Swansea gets is the cardiff bias the capital curse.
Some people truly with massive inferiority complexes which are only removed when moved out of the goldfish bowl that is the Welsh Valleys. | |
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