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That pen 20:14 - Nov 10 with 10624 viewsJackbustard

I left the ground thinking it was against Britton on the post but the BBC saying it was against Routledge now.

Anyone seen a replay.
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That pen on 20:15 - Nov 10 with 6726 viewsdcd14

Plenty on Twitter saying they have and its an awful decision.

Think Hughes has already said the same.
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That pen on 20:18 - Nov 10 with 6659 viewsDull1Thomas

No but 2 pundits on Talk Sport I think - was flicking channels for news - both said the ref had got it wrong. One went on say he thought the only person to see a hand ball was the ref and he had a sent off 2 players unnecessarily in his first game in charge.

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That pen on 20:18 - Nov 10 with 6654 viewsBloodyhills

There's no way it was a pen. :(

On a plus, we played great in the second half, hope we keep it up.

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That pen on 20:19 - Nov 10 with 6650 viewspencoedjack

I also thought it was for Leon on the post ...
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That pen on 20:21 - Nov 10 with 6587 viewsJackbustard

That pen on 20:19 - Nov 10 by pencoedjack

I also thought it was for Leon on the post ...


So did I because he hadnt blown for it until the ball went behind off Leon.
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That pen on 20:22 - Nov 10 with 6573 viewsDull1Thomas

That pen on 20:21 - Nov 10 by Jackbustard

So did I because he hadnt blown for it until the ball went behind off Leon.


ball hit the post

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That pen on 20:23 - Nov 10 with 6546 viewsJackfath

I haven't

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That pen on 20:23 - Nov 10 with 6547 viewsmagicdaps10

Hit Routledge on the arm but 100% defo not a penalty, omly seen Begovic appeal for pen.

Some of his decisions today were baffling at best.

Quite obvious that he favoured Stoke.

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That pen on 20:24 - Nov 10 with 6527 viewssketty_jack

That pen on 20:19 - Nov 10 by pencoedjack

I also thought it was for Leon on the post ...


same here
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That pen on 20:26 - Nov 10 with 6487 viewsmax936

That pen on 20:23 - Nov 10 by magicdaps10

Hit Routledge on the arm but 100% defo not a penalty, omly seen Begovic appeal for pen.

Some of his decisions today were baffling at best.

Quite obvious that he favoured Stoke.


Begovic was a disgrace with his actions towards us fans in the South, both after the pen and at the end, showed no class whatsofukingever.

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That pen on 20:28 - Nov 10 with 6458 viewsSwansNZ

I've seen it many times, and the ball hit Routledge on the arm. A Stoke player was just in front of him and flicked the ball (or tried to), but there was no intent from Routs, his arm was not raised or out form his body - the only way it would not have hit his arm, was if he did not have one (or only had a right arm).

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That pen on 20:30 - Nov 10 with 6433 viewsraynor94

That pen on 20:26 - Nov 10 by max936

Begovic was a disgrace with his actions towards us fans in the South, both after the pen and at the end, showed no class whatsofukingever.


100% agree Max he was a disgrace

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That pen on 20:33 - Nov 10 with 6370 viewsjack_lord

and moments before he gave handball against Rangel when the ball hit his chest. There are decisions that referees don't have to make and that was one of them. What a tunt.

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That pen on 20:37 - Nov 10 with 6335 viewsmonmouth

That pen on 20:30 - Nov 10 by raynor94

100% agree Max he was a disgrace


I thought the whole stoke s**thouse team was a disgrace. Trying to play football my arse.

Still, how good were we in that game. Bony could and should have had 5...he'll score a hatful this season if he gets gametime with us set up with attacking intent. But for a slip and a few lucky bounces and probably the best 20 seconds of play Stoke will ever manage, we were back to moving passing pressing and competing. Both Dyer and Shelvey added zing to our game, and you could see the determination and what it meant to the players. For any doubters...WE ARE BACK.

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That pen on 20:38 - Nov 10 with 6324 viewsmax936

That pen on 20:33 - Nov 10 by jack_lord

and moments before he gave handball against Rangel when the ball hit his chest. There are decisions that referees don't have to make and that was one of them. What a tunt.


I couldn't believe my eyes tbh, talk about disappointment, although I couldn't tell what really happened, at first l thought he had given a goal kick my eyes can't see that far though need to sort some glasses, specsavers here l come.

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That pen on 20:41 - Nov 10 with 6294 viewsjack_lord

That pen on 20:38 - Nov 10 by max936

I couldn't believe my eyes tbh, talk about disappointment, although I couldn't tell what really happened, at first l thought he had given a goal kick my eyes can't see that far though need to sort some glasses, specsavers here l come.


I wasn't just disappointment for me it was pure anger that one man with questionable parentage could have such an influence on the final result. I swear that their guy controlled the ball with his arm before he scored in the first half as well.

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That pen on 20:43 - Nov 10 with 6259 viewsDarran

That pen on 20:26 - Nov 10 by max936

Begovic was a disgrace with his actions towards us fans in the South, both after the pen and at the end, showed no class whatsofukingever.


Grow up.

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That pen on 20:45 - Nov 10 with 6233 viewsmonmouth

That pen on 20:41 - Nov 10 by jack_lord

I wasn't just disappointment for me it was pure anger that one man with questionable parentage could have such an influence on the final result. I swear that their guy controlled the ball with his arm before he scored in the first half as well.


He doesn't have questionable parentage mate, he is just a long streak of bias. How these things can be allowed to go on in a 'professional' game is beyond me. What with that decision against WBA yesterday to, you really have to wonder about sonme of this. he deliberately handed them a draw today, for whatever reason.

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That pen on 20:48 - Nov 10 with 6218 viewsmax936

That pen on 20:41 - Nov 10 by jack_lord

I wasn't just disappointment for me it was pure anger that one man with questionable parentage could have such an influence on the final result. I swear that their guy controlled the ball with his arm before he scored in the first half as well.


He was shocking throughout, l was worried about some of our players, he looked sure to send one off, l cringed when Routs continued to walked away from him, when he was needlessly booking him, I thought that he'd end up sending him off for the descent, thankfully he didn't.

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That pen on 20:48 - Nov 10 with 6205 viewsEdmundo

Totally disillusioned with what is meant to be impartial and fair refeering......today was a disgrace to their profession!

Hope it evens our soon because we,ve been undone by some awful decisions already and can,t remember too many awful decions going our way!


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That pen on 20:49 - Nov 10 with 6186 viewsScoobyWho

Last seven minutes.

1. Their keeper and Routs have a ding dong, keeper lays hands on him, Stoke get a free kick.
2. Big old ball scramble in front of dug outs, drop ball ? Stoke get a free kick.
3. Bony wins a clean header on half way line, Stoke get a free kick.
4. Ball is charged down by swans defender Rangel, out on the right, Stoke get a free kick.
5. They get a corner off Canias from that free kick. Its retaken after Bony cleared fairly.
Stoke get an advantage.
6. Stoke fail to take the advantage from retaken corner and get a penalty.

Which nobody saw.

The ref had made his mind up that we were not going to win that game, and in turn made 6 decisions in the final seven minutes which display why Laudrup states it was 'strange'
I would use other words.

And finally, he played no more than 2 mins of time in the extra 5. Once stoke scored he couldn't bring the game to a conclusion quick enough.if that was at the vetch he would be licking the soggy bits off his ripped apart legs.

We've lost our boil.the ref needs investigating.
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That pen on 20:50 - Nov 10 with 6168 viewsC_jack

I think even Leon thought it was on him initially, very strange decision.

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That pen on 20:50 - Nov 10 with 6168 viewsmax936

That pen on 20:43 - Nov 10 by Darran

Grow up.


Ugh, he was inciting the crowd ffs, grow up be fuked.

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That pen on 20:53 - Nov 10 with 6144 viewsDarran

That pen on 20:50 - Nov 10 by max936

Ugh, he was inciting the crowd ffs, grow up be fuked.


Inciting the crowd FFS,I was there and he was celebrating a point,man up you ponce.

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That pen on 20:58 - Nov 10 with 6082 viewsmagicdaps10

That pen on 20:53 - Nov 10 by Darran

Inciting the crowd FFS,I was there and he was celebrating a point,man up you ponce.


You must have been low down or at pitch level because I can tell you 100% he was inciting the crowd.

Sometimes there can be a fine line between celebrating towards fans and inciting them.

Disgusting team regardless of what peoples opinions are on Begovic's after match reaction.

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