| Faurlin 14:49 - Jan 10 with 12148 views | QPRDave |
Palermo asked to take him on loan and we have said no |  | | |  |
| Faurlin on 16:14 - Jan 11 with 1157 views | fakekerby |
| Faurlin on 16:09 - Jan 11 by Cornish_oooRRRR |
It's odd because I'm sure I've read that Hughes had a reputation for being very careful with players recovering from injury.
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I think Hughes seriously panicked and was just totally clueless how to turn us around and was desperate enough to do whatever it took - including chucking Faurlin straight into the deep end.
He was absolutely dreadful and has killed this club for the foreseeable future IMO. I can't see us staying up and I don't think we'll even be up to the Championship with this lot tbh as the likes of M'Bia and Adel will leave (perhaps Mackie too) and Derry/Hill will be yet another year older. |  | | |
| Faurlin on 16:17 - Jan 11 with 1139 views | Northernr |
| Faurlin on 16:14 - Jan 11 by gazza1 |
I cannot see the point of keeping Faurlin if HR aint going to pick him to play..... |
You clearly think HR will be here for the foreseeable future then?
Just because he's not picking him now, doesn't mean the next manager won't and given the way QPR go through managers, and that I highly doubt Redknapp would manage us after relegation, it seems short sighted to get rid of player like him for that reason. |  | | |
| Faurlin on 16:21 - Jan 11 with 1118 views | gazza1 |
| Faurlin on 16:17 - Jan 11 by Northernr |
You clearly think HR will be here for the foreseeable future then?
Just because he's not picking him now, doesn't mean the next manager won't and given the way QPR go through managers, and that I highly doubt Redknapp would manage us after relegation, it seems short sighted to get rid of player like him for that reason. |
Lots of ifs & buts Norf.......bottom line is that Harry recons he is here for the full contract and if he is not picking him and funds are low and he thinks we can stay up with new players and he needs the funds then sobeit. His form certainly aint good atm. | | | |
| Faurlin on 16:27 - Jan 11 with 1109 views | Antti_Heinola |
| Faurlin on 16:21 - Jan 11 by gazza1 |
Lots of ifs & buts Norf.......bottom line is that Harry recons he is here for the full contract and if he is not picking him and funds are low and he thinks we can stay up with new players and he needs the funds then sobeit. His form certainly aint good atm. |
i don't think AF has 'form' at the moment. Was great v Fulham - really, really good and then had a bad game or two. Wasn't even part of the liverpool debacle. you do need a squad, gazza. |  |
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| Faurlin on 16:31 - Jan 11 with 1088 views | gazza1 |
| Faurlin on 16:27 - Jan 11 by Antti_Heinola |
i don't think AF has 'form' at the moment. Was great v Fulham - really, really good and then had a bad game or two. Wasn't even part of the liverpool debacle. you do need a squad, gazza. |
I agree you need a squad & that is the best he can get atm.....but is he willing to be a squad player & do we have lots of squad players already. | | | |
| Faurlin on 17:01 - Jan 11 with 1051 views | daveB |
If we stay up Harry will be here for the full contract but not a chance he'll be here if we go down |  | | |
| Faurlin on 17:16 - Jan 11 with 1029 views | Northernr |
| Faurlin on 16:21 - Jan 11 by gazza1 |
Lots of ifs & buts Norf.......bottom line is that Harry recons he is here for the full contract and if he is not picking him and funds are low and he thinks we can stay up with new players and he needs the funds then sobeit. His form certainly aint good atm. |
But isn't that just the QPR thing to do. Player who has been perfectly fine for five years goes into poor form after an injury - so we sell him and try and sign somebody else.
Heaven forbid we actually work with a player on weaknesses or problems. Incredibly short sighted to sell a player we know to be decent because his form is poor at the moment.
We're seeing at the moment that in our current position we'll struggle to attract decent players. Whatever Faurlin's current form we will not attract a player of his age and ability to LR at the moment, so keep him. [Post edited 1 Jan 1970 1:00]
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| Faurlin on 17:23 - Jan 11 with 1012 views | PhilmyRs |
| Faurlin on 17:16 - Jan 11 by Northernr |
But isn't that just the QPR thing to do. Player who has been perfectly fine for five years goes into poor form after an injury - so we sell him and try and sign somebody else.
Heaven forbid we actually work with a player on weaknesses or problems. Incredibly short sighted to sell a player we know to be decent because his form is poor at the moment.
We're seeing at the moment that in our current position we'll struggle to attract decent players. Whatever Faurlin's current form we will not attract a player of his age and ability to LR at the moment, so keep him. [Post edited 1 Jan 1970 1:00]
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Out of interest, where did you stand on Akos Buzzacky? To me he was a great player, better than Faurlin when at his best. After an injury very similar to the one Ale got, was never the same again. There is a danger this is history repeating itself.
I wouldn't sell Ale, he hasn't had long enough to prove himself and has shown (Chelsea, Spurs) he's still a class act. Although to counter that, Akos still put in a few quality performance under Magilton and following his injury but could never get any consistency together, much like Ale at the moment. I hope I'm wrong. We lost one genius to injury, I hope we don't lose another. | | | |
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| Faurlin on 17:24 - Jan 11 with 1007 views | Hunterhoop |
| Faurlin on 17:16 - Jan 11 by Northernr |
But isn't that just the QPR thing to do. Player who has been perfectly fine for five years goes into poor form after an injury - so we sell him and try and sign somebody else.
Heaven forbid we actually work with a player on weaknesses or problems. Incredibly short sighted to sell a player we know to be decent because his form is poor at the moment.
We're seeing at the moment that in our current position we'll struggle to attract decent players. Whatever Faurlin's current form we will not attract a player of his age and ability to LR at the moment, so keep him. [Post edited 1 Jan 1970 1:00]
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Exactly. It's called long term strategic planning. Not short term panicing.
Gazza, you are a total WUM. Whilst I disagree with you on a number of things and think you're a bit of a self centred, obnoxious pr*ck, even I can see that your line of thought re. Faurlin is so stupid, it must be just a simple attempt to wind people up.
Even you are too intelligent to believe what you've posted. You are on the wind up.
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| Faurlin on 17:27 - Jan 11 with 995 views | Northernr |
| Faurlin on 17:23 - Jan 11 by PhilmyRs |
Out of interest, where did you stand on Akos Buzzacky? To me he was a great player, better than Faurlin when at his best. After an injury very similar to the one Ale got, was never the same again. There is a danger this is history repeating itself.
I wouldn't sell Ale, he hasn't had long enough to prove himself and has shown (Chelsea, Spurs) he's still a class act. Although to counter that, Akos still put in a few quality performance under Magilton and following his injury but could never get any consistency together, much like Ale at the moment. I hope I'm wrong. We lost one genius to injury, I hope we don't lose another. |
Well Buzsaky was at one stage a really exceptional player for us. He didn't have one bad injury, he had two or three basically on the spin and was never the same after that. He can't really say he wasn't given a chance, because we kept him for two ro three seasons after those and he never looked like reaching those same heights again. I thought the decision to offer him a one year deal in the summer was the right one, and he was a bit daft to turn it down. Not torn up any trees since. A shame. | | | |
| Faurlin on 17:58 - Jan 11 with 941 views | gazza1 |
| Faurlin on 17:24 - Jan 11 by Hunterhoop |
Exactly. It's called long term strategic planning. Not short term panicing.
Gazza, you are a total WUM. Whilst I disagree with you on a number of things and think you're a bit of a self centred, obnoxious pr*ck, even I can see that your line of thought re. Faurlin is so stupid, it must be just a simple attempt to wind people up.
Even you are too intelligent to believe what you've posted. You are on the wind up.
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I could not give two hoots what you think of me Hunter and my thoughts are simple......if HR is not going to play him & basically he hasnt then move him out. If he has him in his plans then keep him here - simple.
Makes you feel a 'big man' using all those insulting words eh....pretty pathetic imo. | | | |
| Faurlin on 18:04 - Jan 11 with 925 views | gazza1 |
| Faurlin on 17:16 - Jan 11 by Northernr |
But isn't that just the QPR thing to do. Player who has been perfectly fine for five years goes into poor form after an injury - so we sell him and try and sign somebody else.
Heaven forbid we actually work with a player on weaknesses or problems. Incredibly short sighted to sell a player we know to be decent because his form is poor at the moment.
We're seeing at the moment that in our current position we'll struggle to attract decent players. Whatever Faurlin's current form we will not attract a player of his age and ability to LR at the moment, so keep him. [Post edited 1 Jan 1970 1:00]
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He has had a bad injury & has not performed anywhere near the level he did....he was not the quickest in the first place and he appears to have lost any limited pace that he had so it is a difficult call.....as I said, if he aint playing what is the point in keeping him here at the expence of a player that will play & hopefully perform more often. | | | |
| Faurlin on 18:09 - Jan 11 with 907 views | gazza1 |
| Faurlin on 17:01 - Jan 11 by daveB |
If we stay up Harry will be here for the full contract but not a chance he'll be here if we go down |
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| Faurlin on 18:11 - Jan 11 with 902 views | PhilmyRs |
| Faurlin on 17:24 - Jan 11 by Hunterhoop |
Exactly. It's called long term strategic planning. Not short term panicing.
Gazza, you are a total WUM. Whilst I disagree with you on a number of things and think you're a bit of a self centred, obnoxious pr*ck, even I can see that your line of thought re. Faurlin is so stupid, it must be just a simple attempt to wind people up.
Even you are too intelligent to believe what you've posted. You are on the wind up.
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Think your going overboard in your criticism. Faurlin is good, not as good as I suspect you think he is though. A scenario for you, Harry sells Ale brings in 2 or 3 as a result and we stay up. Faurlin's gone but Harry has furfilled his remit. Has Harry been proved right? Big gamble I know, one I wouldn't take or want to see, but if Harry thinks Ale won't play much and wants to generate cash its not a stupid an idea as you think. Again I reiterate I hope we keep him but rangers have made worse decisions down the years...paulo wanchope anyone | | | |
| Faurlin on 18:28 - Jan 11 with 854 views | Hunterhoop |
| Faurlin on 17:58 - Jan 11 by gazza1 |
I could not give two hoots what you think of me Hunter and my thoughts are simple......if HR is not going to play him & basically he hasnt then move him out. If he has him in his plans then keep him here - simple.
Makes you feel a 'big man' using all those insulting words eh....pretty pathetic imo. |
Doesn't make me feel a big man at all.
Just happy to call a 'spade' a 'spade'.
You reap what you sow and you sent years on here behaving in the most arrogant, condescending manner.
In this instance you're just being a WUM.
You can't possibly think it's worth just getting rid of a young, talented player who we already own and who isn't on a ridiculous wage because one manager, who may well not be here next year, has not played him in the last few games (AF has actually played a few games under Harry, inc the Fulham win where he was excellent)!
Whilst I've never liked you, I know you're smarter than that.
p.s. can't take it people insulting you, don't dish it out as you did when you came on this board. | | | |
| Faurlin on 18:43 - Jan 11 with 821 views | ted_hendrix |
Oddly enough I can see sense to both sides of the argument here.
The person I feel for Is Faurlin himself, the poor sod has been through hell since he joined this club, what he went through when we got promoted regarding the court case I wouldn't wish on anybody, add to that his awful injury at MK.
Yea he's got a left foot that's packed with skill and yea he can tackle like a trojan and anyone who say's he can't head a ball is a pillock, I'd hate to see him go on loan but he might just get back to being the player we all know he Is.
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| Faurlin on 18:53 - Jan 11 with 789 views | hoopstilidie |
"I dont insult anyone "
Yeah, you do. Done it to me more than once.*
You'll then play the victim.
Always have.
You really should be a Liverpool supporter.
*Thankfully it doesn't bother me as I think you're an idiot. |  |
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| Faurlin on 18:58 - Jan 11 with 775 views | Jamie |
| Faurlin on 14:29 - Jan 11 by Hunterhoop |
I think, if managed properly, we can give him the game time here.
He was excellent against Chelsea, Spurs and Fulham this season, but followed up 1-2 games later with a bad performance where he really struggled to keep the pace. In some instances, it was 2 bad performances.
What this shows is he can play at his top level but not for endless games in a row. A proper management team with a proper rehab structure would be able to identify when is the right time to rest him.
MH certainly didn't and HR hasn't appeared to grasp this. |
To my eyes it seems HR is putting it all on red going for survival and in hopes of achieving that he's going to try and bring in players he knows and trusts. In that situation there simply won't be time for Faurlin to play himself back into form. If we were comfortably mid-table then it would be feasible. One thing is for sure which is that AF needs to be playing and if he can't get games here, then a short loan suits everyone IMO.
As said already, the Palermo loan to me seemed perfect really. Decent Serie A team where he would get plenty of time on the ball and at a slower pace than the PL to knock off some of the rust. [Post edited 1 Jan 1970 1:00]
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| Faurlin on 19:04 - Jan 11 with 767 views | wittle |
| Faurlin on 18:58 - Jan 11 by Jamie |
To my eyes it seems HR is putting it all on red going for survival and in hopes of achieving that he's going to try and bring in players he knows and trusts. In that situation there simply won't be time for Faurlin to play himself back into form. If we were comfortably mid-table then it would be feasible. One thing is for sure which is that AF needs to be playing and if he can't get games here, then a short loan suits everyone IMO.
As said already, the Palermo loan to me seemed perfect really. Decent Serie A team where he would get plenty of time on the ball and at a slower pace than the PL to knock off some of the rust. [Post edited 1 Jan 1970 1:00]
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dont know about palermo being a decent side mate they are 2nd bottom.So he is swapping one relegation fight for another so not much time to find his feet. | | | |
| Faurlin on 19:08 - Jan 11 with 755 views | Jamie |
| Faurlin on 19:04 - Jan 11 by wittle |
dont know about palermo being a decent side mate they are 2nd bottom.So he is swapping one relegation fight for another so not much time to find his feet. |
Their situation is nowhere near as desperate as ours however and he would go there to play every week, rather than here where he's realistically going to be cover. | | | |
| Faurlin on 00:25 - Jan 12 with 648 views | baz_qpr |
| Faurlin on 17:01 - Jan 11 by daveB |
If we stay up Harry will be here for the full contract but not a chance he'll be here if we go down |
I'm not so sure I buy that why change the entire back room if you ate only here for the very short term. Whilst I agree he will only be here until he is offered a better position ( and I think there is still a good chance for the England role give how dismal Woy has been) I am willing to bet that should we be relegated he will still be here at the start of the season |  | | |
| Faurlin on 09:37 - Jan 12 with 577 views | Loft1979 |
| Faurlin on 15:34 - Jan 10 by TacticalR |
I wonder about this. As someone asked about Diakite yesterday: is he a "holding midfield player"?
Faurlin is good at tackling in the centre of midfield. That's very useful because not many players can time their tackles like him, and it means he can then make a forward pass because of his ability. But he is not good at tracking runners from midfield as they head towards the box. His whole game is based on timing not strength or speed.
So he needs a Derry alongside him. |
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| Faurlin on 10:17 - Jan 12 with 554 views | JonDoeman |
| Faurlin on 17:01 - Jan 11 by daveB |
If we stay up Harry will be here for the full contract but not a chance he'll be here if we go down |
Why is that the commonly held view?
Unless he's retiring, I can't see him a leaving a good job, unless he has another lined up. And how many options are there, considering he won't go up north? |  |
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