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We signed Chris Martin because Dykes was seriously unwell. Don’t know if you heard the news, but he was in hospital with pneumonia.
Also, Neil Critchley was in keeping with the ‘plan’, he just inherited a useless team!
I think you have made the point. After 8 years we had no backup striker when Dykes was ill, that is not only shocking, its incompetent. To make it worse we paid off Bonne, you can't make it up!
This team wasn't useless, they were top in October. The squad has probably split, between Beales Boys and the rest, and once that happens it cant be sorted until the summer.
We signed Chris Martin because Dykes was seriously unwell. Don’t know if you heard the news, but he was in hospital with pneumonia.
Also, Neil Critchley was in keeping with the ‘plan’, he just inherited a useless team!
Critchley was a shocking choice , clearly lost the dressing room from day one Him and stevie G stunk the place out at Villa also , that’s 2 clubs in a space of 9 months where the players looked bored to tears With regards to Chris Marin i think it sums up Les and his tenure here
And Bowles is onside, Swinburne has come rushing out of his goal , what can Bowles do here , onto the left foot no, on to the right foot
That’s there that’s two, and that’s Bowles
Brian Moore
Looks like I picked the wrong season to quit glue sniffing....
Over the last six or seven years it would've been me starting this thread and then getting pelters for it... this season I take a back seat and look what happens!!!
I do wish people would stop going on about "we were top in October" - that was such a false position and you have to look at who we played and how lucky we were. The football was patchy and the concern always was we were a one Willock team - once his form dropped / his injury resurfaced we weren't much bottle were we? The squad is so weak and unbalanced and, as I've moaned about countless times, signing injury prone players get's you a busy physio room. The only one with a modicum of success there has been Sam Field, the rest are duffs...... Richards the absolute biggest joke of the lot.
This club has been decaying since Bungle walked through the door - I always said he'd ruin the club and I would say the impending relegation will only serve to quicken things. We are trail blazers in the shit stakes - biggest sporting fine in history.. check; longest wait for a win in the Prem... check and my fear is: biggest modern day club to go out business ..... mmmmmmm?
Lucky Generals win wars..... Poor ones get you killed.
Cherish and enjoy life.... this ain't no dress rehearsal
Beale and injuries, the injuries now being the biggest issue. You never have a fully fit squad but the 1st choice 11 would never have looked like yesterdays. Chris Martin ( he does win a lot of balls) wouldn’t be there if poor LD hadn’t been so ill. The players must see their mates struggling on the training pitch and in physio all the time. We are down to the bones with limited options, at least Richards and Amos were on the bench. As much as he is derided Balogan meant clean sheets. Dozzell is the biggest disappointment for me, obviously got a sweet left foot but seemingly scared to use it. Absolutely no replacement for Ilias, but left side of midfield what other options were there. Actually thought we were OK 1st half but conceding a goal 10 seconds from half time was the killer. Second time this year, thinking of Sheffield Red Stripe. We are where we are and GA is the best option, suspect the only one but somehow we need a fit squad. BTW if Balagon was fit Dickie would be dropped, Beale saw that and wonder if that has contributed to his confidence levels.
The 68/69 team won once in their final 22 matches (42 game season) which included a twenty match winless run and a nine straight game losing streak in the second half of the season so it'll be close.
That was in Division One with what was basically the Division Three Title winning team minus it's best player. Not a Second Division team that had been top previously so mentally weak and over reliant on Chair and Willock for creativity. The third goal yesterday was poor Sunday League defending with Gallagher standing for 20 seconds at the back post pointing where the cross needed to be put for him.
Ainsworth would have seen the same issues we have all been seeing for months in yesterday’s performance. The defence have been shambolic as a four for ages and surely the only option now is to go with a five to at least keep the goals out: that would be a starting point to getting a bit of confidence back into this broken squad.
With Chair out and the total lack of creativity that leaves us with the only option is surely to get it out wide and cross into Martin as much as possible with others up for support: it wouldn’t be pretty but needs must.
I think we probably have enough points on board to stay out of the bottom three but continuing with the same formation and players will take us very close: I trust Gareth to work with what he has and get the team performing better enough to keep us safe. Then a big rebuild in the summer needed.
We have an entire eleven out and that is not really helping. I was surprised we lined up 4-2-3-1 we dont have the legs for it or the defensively capability, we are relying on our full backs to provide the width and that leaves us wide open defensively.
Their first goal was luck to some extent with deflection but Kakay backed off instead of stepping into his man and Dunne was ball watching instead of marking his man
Second goal Kakay just let the guy go and Dickie was super slow to react, it was terrible defending from both of them
3rd goal Dickie's man peels off to the back post and Kakay man runs towards the goal where Dickie is they both end up marking the same man. Are they man marking (dickies fault) or zonal (Kakays fault)
Kakay was great going forward, you could see that Ainsworth had drilled in to them early crossing, and there was a lot of endeavour and some good tackles. But how when he has been involved in defensive errors that have contributed to all 3 goals can so many people be calling him MOTM?
The only player I saw lack of endeavour from yesterday was Dozzell everyone else worked hard and battled, but we lacked guile, intelligence and organisation. Now Gaz has only done a couple of training sessions, but focus has to be defensive organisation we need a couple of bagels here to stop the rot, probably a change in formation and a bit of luck
The 68/69 team won once in their final 22 matches (42 game season) which included a twenty match winless run and a nine straight game losing streak in the second half of the season so it'll be close.
True, but they'd over achieved to get where they were, and were clearly out of their depth that season. This lot are out of their depth in a paddling pool.
We have an entire eleven out and that is not really helping. I was surprised we lined up 4-2-3-1 we dont have the legs for it or the defensively capability, we are relying on our full backs to provide the width and that leaves us wide open defensively.
Their first goal was luck to some extent with deflection but Kakay backed off instead of stepping into his man and Dunne was ball watching instead of marking his man
Second goal Kakay just let the guy go and Dickie was super slow to react, it was terrible defending from both of them
3rd goal Dickie's man peels off to the back post and Kakay man runs towards the goal where Dickie is they both end up marking the same man. Are they man marking (dickies fault) or zonal (Kakays fault)
Kakay was great going forward, you could see that Ainsworth had drilled in to them early crossing, and there was a lot of endeavour and some good tackles. But how when he has been involved in defensive errors that have contributed to all 3 goals can so many people be calling him MOTM?
The only player I saw lack of endeavour from yesterday was Dozzell everyone else worked hard and battled, but we lacked guile, intelligence and organisation. Now Gaz has only done a couple of training sessions, but focus has to be defensive organisation we need a couple of bagels here to stop the rot, probably a change in formation and a bit of luck
Totally agree about Kakay. I would never fault his effort but he's never a Championship defender. First goal he lets their player cut in rather than force him outside and for the second he's ballwatching rather than staying tight and goalside of his man, who just runs away.
That said, he was probably our MoTM yesterday which says it all.
The 68/69 team won once in their final 22 matches (42 game season) which included a twenty match winless run and a nine straight game losing streak in the second half of the season so it'll be close.
Though that side also had spirit and panache - see this 4-3 defeat at the Hammers won by a rather good goal from Saggy Chops himself! It's like watching footballing chalk and cheese compared to 2023!
Unlike that team that 'refused to be overshadowed', our version plays like a bunch of already-dead shades.
I thought we worked harder today, I think we have a manager who might inspire us for the games ahead. Chair's injury might be a blow, but I'm still optimistic that we will get our form and shape back.
I don't see anything other than survival.
You did tell me you had painted 'survival' on your feature wall, though.
Nothing settles the custard better than a good 'ol relegation scrap.Much more involving than tilting at playoff windmills. Quite looking forward to it. As for the players,let's see what colour their shorts are.
QPR do not seem to have the revenue, scouting, or academy to play like a mini man city. Watching that interview with chairman and board, I think they realize this was a mistake.
Would it be more cost effective and less risky to implement a simple direct style of play with interchangeable players with the hope you win more consistently and can sell players to teams higher up the championship table?
There’s plenty of posters on here calling for Les head it’s not just me In my eyes the club is dead , that’s my opinion , we are heading towards league one with a whimper Ainsworth was bought into please the fan base he wasn’t chosen on merit , the DOF is padding on Sh1t creek that’s why Gareth is here now , his signings and managerial appointments have been by and large disappointing over the 8 years , there’s no plan if there was why are we signing the likes of Tyler Roberts, Lowe and Chris Martin , It’s get by season upon season that was not the remit when Les took the reigns , we got lucky with one Jewell in the turd bowl which was Eze and look how that cash was spent And btw it’s not just Les , it’s Hoos, the coaching staff and by and large the board who have made such a pigs ear of it QPR fans have shown enough dignity over the last 8 years and look where we are now
This echoes 2001 when Holloway was brought in for the last 13 games. And like Ainsworth, a lot of the fixtures were against some fellow strugglers and mid table sides with a few promotion chasing teams. Holloway managed his one win against the division’s worst team, Tranmere.
That team just gave up as soon as falling behind. This one isn’t much better.
Ainsworth said he only had two training sessions with the players, so hopefully he will coach them to play a lot better in the next few games and choose better players than Dozzell and a dodgy centre back pair.
This echoes 2001 when Holloway was brought in for the last 13 games. And like Ainsworth, a lot of the fixtures were against some fellow strugglers and mid table sides with a few promotion chasing teams. Holloway managed his one win against the division’s worst team, Tranmere.
That team just gave up as soon as falling behind. This one isn’t much better.
Ainsworth said he only had two training sessions with the players, so hopefully he will coach them to play a lot better in the next few games and choose better players than Dozzell and a dodgy centre back pair.
Just a reminder of QPR’s lineup on Holloway’s first game v Sheff U
G Kulcsar L Miklosko G Peacock M Perry C Plummer K Ready M Rose S Wardley C Warren P Crouch M Ngonge
Crouch and Peacock aside, who’d you swap for today? We are in danger certainly, but not 2001 danger if you ask me.
Just a reminder of QPR’s lineup on Holloway’s first game v Sheff U
G Kulcsar L Miklosko G Peacock M Perry C Plummer K Ready M Rose S Wardley C Warren P Crouch M Ngonge
Crouch and Peacock aside, who’d you swap for today? We are in danger certainly, but not 2001 danger if you ask me.
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That lot would still put 3 past our current losers
And Bowles is onside, Swinburne has come rushing out of his goal , what can Bowles do here , onto the left foot no, on to the right foot
That’s there that’s two, and that’s Bowles
Brian Moore
Critchley was a shocking choice , clearly lost the dressing room from day one Him and stevie G stunk the place out at Villa also , that’s 2 clubs in a space of 9 months where the players looked bored to tears With regards to Chris Marin i think it sums up Les and his tenure here
If the criticism is that we should have had another striker in-house, then I can’t disagree with that.
Chris Martin, Critchley etc aren’t the problems they’re the symptoms.
I think you have made the point. After 8 years we had no backup striker when Dykes was ill, that is not only shocking, its incompetent. To make it worse we paid off Bonne, you can't make it up!
This team wasn't useless, they were top in October. The squad has probably split, between Beales Boys and the rest, and once that happens it cant be sorted until the summer.
I think we need to get over our form earlier in the season. It was tenuous and never looked like it was going to last. The drop in form started when Beale was here.
I don’t buy this ‘Beales Boys’ argument. Unless you can give me some concrete evidence it’s just speculation.
Our main issue is not having our best players fit to play. Losing Willock has really hurt us. Johansen has been out for most of the season and now we may have also lost Chair.
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