| Nuclear Mud - Welsh Labour on 21:28 - Oct 10 with 2270 views | majorraglan |
Can’t undestand it, why would anyone agree to have nuclear mud dumped off its own coast? They should be named and shamed and voted out next time there’s an election. |  | |  |
| Nuclear Mud - Welsh Labour on 22:19 - Oct 10 with 2242 views | Darran |
| Nuclear Mud - Welsh Labour on 21:28 - Oct 10 by majorraglan |
Can’t undestand it, why would anyone agree to have nuclear mud dumped off its own coast? They should be named and shamed and voted out next time there’s an election. |
It’s truly staggering. |  |
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| Nuclear Mud - Welsh Labour on 22:50 - Oct 10 with 2224 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Nuclear Mud - Welsh Labour on 21:28 - Oct 10 by majorraglan |
Can’t undestand it, why would anyone agree to have nuclear mud dumped off its own coast? They should be named and shamed and voted out next time there’s an election. |
Red Tories ? Feels like that.
Shameful. Stand up for Cymru, nobody else will.
The real test is ... would they dump it in the Thames ?
Would they feck.
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| Nuclear Mud - Welsh Labour on 22:53 - Oct 10 with 2221 views | LeonWasGod |
Where to start? Is it 'nuclear' (radioactive) or clean as determined by tests? What's been done to test the waste? What's been done to assess the site? Without knowing the details behind any f the investigation related to this it's impossible to know whether this bad or not.
Concerns have been raised, but did the people raising the concerns have access to the necessary info?
I'm not fan in principle (renewables is the way to go and hydrogen for vehicles imo) but this is obviously an emotive issue and one to easily misrepresent without knowing the info. |  | | |
| Nuclear Mud - Welsh Labour on 23:49 - Oct 10 with 2188 views | Wingstandwood |
| Nuclear Mud - Welsh Labour on 22:19 - Oct 10 by Darran |
It’s truly staggering. |
Agree! It is utterly surreal like something out of Yes Minister or The New Statesman with Alan B'stard.
In fact it is rather like The New Statesman episode (entitled: Waste Not Want Not) whereupon despicable moral-void Alan B'stard gets involved with the dumping of nuclear waste under a school.
So in this case?.... The fact looks far worse than fiction, a major difference however i.e. the lowlife scum/political involvement is from Welsh Labour! The complete and utter B'stards! [Post edited 10 Oct 2018 23:52]
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| Nuclear Mud - Welsh Labour on 23:58 - Oct 10 with 2175 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Nuclear Mud - Welsh Labour on 23:49 - Oct 10 by Wingstandwood |
Agree! It is utterly surreal like something out of Yes Minister or The New Statesman with Alan B'stard.
In fact it is rather like The New Statesman episode (entitled: Waste Not Want Not) whereupon despicable moral-void Alan B'stard gets involved with the dumping of nuclear waste under a school.
So in this case?.... The fact looks far worse than fiction, a major difference however i.e. the lowlife scum/political involvement is from Welsh Labour! The complete and utter B'stards! [Post edited 10 Oct 2018 23:52]
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| Nuclear Mud - Welsh Labour on 00:10 - Oct 11 with 2168 views | DJack |
For the alarmists...
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-42226392
Testing on the sediment was carried out by CEFAS, an executive agency of the UK Government, and has since been analysed by NRW.
It found levels of artificial radioactivity in the mud were so low they would equate to being "not radioactive" in law.
A presentation prepared for AMs by EDF outlined a case involving this methodology:
It "conservatively assumes" a person spends about four hours a day, every day, on the shore near the Cardiff Grounds and eats 50kg of fish and 15kg of crustacean and molluscs a year, all sourced from the Cardiff Grounds
Exposure to the radioactivity in the sediment is also considered from inhaling any sediment that may accumulate on the shore
Assuming a person was to do all of the above, 90% of the radiological dose they would receive would be from naturally occurring radiation
The research found combining natural and artificial levels of radioactivity together, any exposure would be 10,000 times less than an airline pilot's annual dose, 750 times less than the average dose received by a resident of Pembrokeshire due to naturally occurring Radon, and equivalent to eating 20 bananas each year - an "infinitesimally small level". |  |
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| Nuclear Mud - Welsh Labour on 01:01 - Oct 11 with 2148 views | Josey_Wales37 |
Its disgusting decision imo, but was always going to be the case. Some Lab and Cons AMs were making out like they were going to vote against , then went with it.
The protest is about the fact the tests could not detect all particles, scientists have told us so.. Imo they can not 100% say that no human, animal, sea life or any part of eco system will never be affected. They can not say how test results may change once mud is moved, or how it will react with water or how it will travel. Reports already coming about a beach in Barry being covered in a sludge substance.
Again, as seems to be the norm in Wales now, no consultation took place, they just did it.
Our own Lab AM apparently called any people showing concerns about this dull lol..
Gower surfers who were present today were giving them what for fair play.
Wait till people start looking into the reports of spraying in Swansea with lethal pesticides etc | | | |
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| Nuclear Mud - Welsh Labour on 06:08 - Oct 11 with 2123 views | ScottishEddie |
| Nuclear Mud - Welsh Labour on 00:10 - Oct 11 by DJack |
For the alarmists...
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-42226392
Testing on the sediment was carried out by CEFAS, an executive agency of the UK Government, and has since been analysed by NRW.
It found levels of artificial radioactivity in the mud were so low they would equate to being "not radioactive" in law.
A presentation prepared for AMs by EDF outlined a case involving this methodology:
It "conservatively assumes" a person spends about four hours a day, every day, on the shore near the Cardiff Grounds and eats 50kg of fish and 15kg of crustacean and molluscs a year, all sourced from the Cardiff Grounds
Exposure to the radioactivity in the sediment is also considered from inhaling any sediment that may accumulate on the shore
Assuming a person was to do all of the above, 90% of the radiological dose they would receive would be from naturally occurring radiation
The research found combining natural and artificial levels of radioactivity together, any exposure would be 10,000 times less than an airline pilot's annual dose, 750 times less than the average dose received by a resident of Pembrokeshire due to naturally occurring Radon, and equivalent to eating 20 bananas each year - an "infinitesimally small level". |
Imagine a pilot from Pembroke who eats a banana at lunch everday! | |
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| Nuclear Mud - Welsh Labour on 06:28 - Oct 11 with 2114 views | peenemunde |
Nuclear mud 😂 it’s not. |  | | |
| Nuclear Mud - Welsh Labour on 06:34 - Oct 11 with 2109 views | peenemunde |
| Nuclear Mud - Welsh Labour on 00:10 - Oct 11 by DJack |
For the alarmists...
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-42226392
Testing on the sediment was carried out by CEFAS, an executive agency of the UK Government, and has since been analysed by NRW.
It found levels of artificial radioactivity in the mud were so low they would equate to being "not radioactive" in law.
A presentation prepared for AMs by EDF outlined a case involving this methodology:
It "conservatively assumes" a person spends about four hours a day, every day, on the shore near the Cardiff Grounds and eats 50kg of fish and 15kg of crustacean and molluscs a year, all sourced from the Cardiff Grounds
Exposure to the radioactivity in the sediment is also considered from inhaling any sediment that may accumulate on the shore
Assuming a person was to do all of the above, 90% of the radiological dose they would receive would be from naturally occurring radiation
The research found combining natural and artificial levels of radioactivity together, any exposure would be 10,000 times less than an airline pilot's annual dose, 750 times less than the average dose received by a resident of Pembrokeshire due to naturally occurring Radon, and equivalent to eating 20 bananas each year - an "infinitesimally small level". |
Unbelievable the scare stories.
No wonder people don’t believe organisations like Greenpeace.
Greenpeace should stop scaremongering as the scaremongering is making them look idiotic and will do their cause no good at all. | | | |
| Nuclear Mud - Welsh Labour on 06:44 - Oct 11 with 2105 views | peenemunde |
| Nuclear Mud - Welsh Labour on 01:01 - Oct 11 by Josey_Wales37 |
Its disgusting decision imo, but was always going to be the case. Some Lab and Cons AMs were making out like they were going to vote against , then went with it.
The protest is about the fact the tests could not detect all particles, scientists have told us so.. Imo they can not 100% say that no human, animal, sea life or any part of eco system will never be affected. They can not say how test results may change once mud is moved, or how it will react with water or how it will travel. Reports already coming about a beach in Barry being covered in a sludge substance.
Again, as seems to be the norm in Wales now, no consultation took place, they just did it.
Our own Lab AM apparently called any people showing concerns about this dull lol..
Gower surfers who were present today were giving them what for fair play.
Wait till people start looking into the reports of spraying in Swansea with lethal pesticides etc |
People showing concern are definitely dull. | | | |
| Nuclear Mud - Welsh Labour on 10:42 - Oct 11 with 2056 views | Catullus |
In things like this facts are often irrelevant and perception is everything. Lets face it, facts are often not true anynore, people lie to get what they want, be it brexit, devolution, to sell a football club, everyone tells lies to suit their own desires.
The bananas thing made me laugh, I eat a lot of them, usually 4 or 5 a day, they reckon 7.5 gives you your DRI of potassium and a dangerous amount is 195 a day.
Back on topic, we all know if you throw enough mud, some always sticks. If it's Nuclear mud, how long before the headlines are calling this a scandal? Will we one day find out we've been misled?
I'm biased anyway, I hate the WAG!! | |
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| Nuclear Mud - Welsh Labour on 10:43 - Oct 11 with 2055 views | Josey_Wales37 |
| Nuclear Mud - Welsh Labour on 06:44 - Oct 11 by peenemunde |
People showing concern are definitely dull. |
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| Nuclear Mud - Welsh Labour on 11:56 - Oct 11 with 2029 views | Wingstandwood |
| Nuclear Mud - Welsh Labour on 06:44 - Oct 11 by peenemunde |
People showing concern are definitely dull. |
Dull? Even if the stuff is proven to have acceptable radioactivity the concern for the sheer amount ( 320,000 tonnes a lot) and where it will eventually end up is IMO justified.
Hope it's spread out wide and far and does not affect sea bed ecology and coastline/beaches. And will the 320,000 tonnes just be the start? Will Swansea/Gower coastline be next? People have naturally been concerned about the effect of other man-made intervention like sand dredging ( hence 30,000 petition for Gower)......Definitely dull thirty thousand people?......Nah, right to raise questions because once dumped or once taken away there will be no way to turn the clock back. | |
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| Nuclear Mud - Welsh Labour on 14:45 - Oct 11 with 1975 views | peenemunde |
| Nuclear Mud - Welsh Labour on 11:56 - Oct 11 by Wingstandwood |
Dull? Even if the stuff is proven to have acceptable radioactivity the concern for the sheer amount ( 320,000 tonnes a lot) and where it will eventually end up is IMO justified.
Hope it's spread out wide and far and does not affect sea bed ecology and coastline/beaches. And will the 320,000 tonnes just be the start? Will Swansea/Gower coastline be next? People have naturally been concerned about the effect of other man-made intervention like sand dredging ( hence 30,000 petition for Gower)......Definitely dull thirty thousand people?......Nah, right to raise questions because once dumped or once taken away there will be no way to turn the clock back. |
It hasn’t been proven that the mud is radioactive at all though and let’s not forget all EDF are doing is moving mud from one part of the Bristol Channel and placing it into another part of the Bristol Channel. [Post edited 11 Oct 2018 14:46]
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| Nuclear Mud - Welsh Labour on 14:45 - Oct 11 with 1979 views | Catullus |
| Nuclear Mud - Welsh Labour on 11:56 - Oct 11 by Wingstandwood |
Dull? Even if the stuff is proven to have acceptable radioactivity the concern for the sheer amount ( 320,000 tonnes a lot) and where it will eventually end up is IMO justified.
Hope it's spread out wide and far and does not affect sea bed ecology and coastline/beaches. And will the 320,000 tonnes just be the start? Will Swansea/Gower coastline be next? People have naturally been concerned about the effect of other man-made intervention like sand dredging ( hence 30,000 petition for Gower)......Definitely dull thirty thousand people?......Nah, right to raise questions because once dumped or once taken away there will be no way to turn the clock back. |
If theyever try this around Swansea it should just be NO.....and while we're at it can Blackpool give us our sand back please! | |
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| Nuclear Mud - Welsh Labour on 15:15 - Oct 11 with 1966 views | Ebo |
| Nuclear Mud - Welsh Labour on 00:10 - Oct 11 by DJack |
For the alarmists...
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-42226392
Testing on the sediment was carried out by CEFAS, an executive agency of the UK Government, and has since been analysed by NRW.
It found levels of artificial radioactivity in the mud were so low they would equate to being "not radioactive" in law.
A presentation prepared for AMs by EDF outlined a case involving this methodology:
It "conservatively assumes" a person spends about four hours a day, every day, on the shore near the Cardiff Grounds and eats 50kg of fish and 15kg of crustacean and molluscs a year, all sourced from the Cardiff Grounds
Exposure to the radioactivity in the sediment is also considered from inhaling any sediment that may accumulate on the shore
Assuming a person was to do all of the above, 90% of the radiological dose they would receive would be from naturally occurring radiation
The research found combining natural and artificial levels of radioactivity together, any exposure would be 10,000 times less than an airline pilot's annual dose, 750 times less than the average dose received by a resident of Pembrokeshire due to naturally occurring Radon, and equivalent to eating 20 bananas each year - an "infinitesimally small level". |
Regardless of the level of radioactivity, at the end of the day it's dumping waste on our doorstep and welsh labour have let them do it. |  |
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| Nuclear Mud - Welsh Labour on 15:16 - Oct 11 with 1963 views | Ebo |
| Nuclear Mud - Welsh Labour on 23:49 - Oct 10 by Wingstandwood |
Agree! It is utterly surreal like something out of Yes Minister or The New Statesman with Alan B'stard.
In fact it is rather like The New Statesman episode (entitled: Waste Not Want Not) whereupon despicable moral-void Alan B'stard gets involved with the dumping of nuclear waste under a school.
So in this case?.... The fact looks far worse than fiction, a major difference however i.e. the lowlife scum/political involvement is from Welsh Labour! The complete and utter B'stards! [Post edited 10 Oct 2018 23:52]
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The welsh Tories did nothing either. They voted for it too. Only Plaid and the Greens were against. | |
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| Nuclear Mud - Welsh Labour on 15:32 - Oct 11 with 1950 views | Wingstandwood |
| Nuclear Mud - Welsh Labour on 14:45 - Oct 11 by Catullus |
If theyever try this around Swansea it should just be NO.....and while we're at it can Blackpool give us our sand back please! |
My worry is they kick off down Cardiff way and decide to go down these parts instead because its lesser-tactical-vote sophisticated i.e. donkey vote central.
The press (or bloggers?) down SE Wales way seemed concerned? The voters wont (*cough, cough, cough*) be to impressed reading....
Quote: "Experts say the consequences of this operation — which involves the dumping of over 320,000 tonnes of English nuclear mud in Welsh Waters — may not become apparent for generations."
https://penarthnews.wordpress.com/2018/09/11/in-the-dark-the-first-2000-tons-of-
And even if harmless? Possibility of tide washed over-excess turning beaches/areas into a mud/sludge bath ain't gonna be welcome? What with an incident like this happening after the dumping of only 10,000 tonnes.
https://www.devonlive.com/news/devon-news/fight-continues-stop-catastrophic-effe [Post edited 11 Oct 2018 18:59]
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| Nuclear Mud - Welsh Labour on 19:19 - Oct 11 with 1860 views | jack2jack |
We are totally fvcking this planet up aren't we.Nuclear waste being dumped in and around populated areas, and I don't care if it's safe by law.We really need to be thinking about this,anyway I thought this waste has to be screened and disposed of safely.Whatever they say about the waste, it'll be all lies. Unfortunately this is money driven as are all fvck ups, someone somewhere is probably making a nice bit of coin out of it.
Either way it stinks, and should be investigated externally. |  | | |
| Nuclear Mud - Welsh Labour on 19:55 - Oct 11 with 1839 views | Wingstandwood |
| Nuclear Mud - Welsh Labour on 19:19 - Oct 11 by jack2jack |
We are totally fvcking this planet up aren't we.Nuclear waste being dumped in and around populated areas, and I don't care if it's safe by law.We really need to be thinking about this,anyway I thought this waste has to be screened and disposed of safely.Whatever they say about the waste, it'll be all lies. Unfortunately this is money driven as are all fvck ups, someone somewhere is probably making a nice bit of coin out of it.
Either way it stinks, and should be investigated externally. |
I do not know the in depth decision making, the reasonings, and going on's about (looks like a political farce to me) all this, but what I cannot work out?
They say it's safe mud but nevertheless decide to move it from what I presume to be a lesser picturesque and lesser ecologically/environmentally important marine location. Its moved onto the South Wales coastline that I presume to be a cut above the place from where the mud originally came/comes from.
So why move it at all? Why go to all the expense and hassle to do so? And why take it to a region that seems utterly unsuited? Alarm bells sure do ring? | |
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| Nuclear Mud - Welsh Labour on 20:06 - Oct 11 with 1825 views | jack2jack |
| Nuclear Mud - Welsh Labour on 19:55 - Oct 11 by Wingstandwood |
I do not know the in depth decision making, the reasonings, and going on's about (looks like a political farce to me) all this, but what I cannot work out?
They say it's safe mud but nevertheless decide to move it from what I presume to be a lesser picturesque and lesser ecologically/environmentally important marine location. Its moved onto the South Wales coastline that I presume to be a cut above the place from where the mud originally came/comes from.
So why move it at all? Why go to all the expense and hassle to do so? And why take it to a region that seems utterly unsuited? Alarm bells sure do ring? |
It's a fair point you make there, so you have to wonder, who's making money out of this? | | | |
| Nuclear Mud - Welsh Labour on 00:56 - Oct 12 with 1775 views | Josey_Wales37 |
Got told last night that more scientists have come forward and are raging at the decision. They are saying that Hinckley has had a few accidents and the tests are not enough and certainly will not have detected all particles. There is a already a sludge substance covering a beach in Barry too.
This is project between the 'UK' gov, Welsh gov and EDF which has multi millions of pounds riding on it with some fat cat MPs/AMs probably lining their pockets too.
This potentially will affect as far as Pembrokeshire Eco System wise. | | | |
| Nuclear Mud - Welsh Labour on 06:25 - Oct 12 with 1743 views | peenemunde |
| Nuclear Mud - Welsh Labour on 00:56 - Oct 12 by Josey_Wales37 |
Got told last night that more scientists have come forward and are raging at the decision. They are saying that Hinckley has had a few accidents and the tests are not enough and certainly will not have detected all particles. There is a already a sludge substance covering a beach in Barry too.
This is project between the 'UK' gov, Welsh gov and EDF which has multi millions of pounds riding on it with some fat cat MPs/AMs probably lining their pockets too.
This potentially will affect as far as Pembrokeshire Eco System wise. |
Was it Trampie who told you 😂 | | | |
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